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Graham

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Jan 7, 2010, 6:04:46 PM1/7/10
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I have been kinda busy this last week. so I didn't realize what Joy was
talking about, on the sixth of December I quoted Charles amazingly crude
insulting and homophobic comments made on asp, in a post on abll. I called
myself ''geeze on asp''. I was sick of reading there what a lovely man he
is. I made two posts, only one person replied, Charlie himself and on both
replies he said thank you. Nobody else was interested so I forgot it, I
never post anon but I figured most people would know it was me from the
properties. That was a month ago and when Joy mentioned it, NOBODY from abll
had read such a thing. I have/am sick and when today the penny dropped I
mailed Joy what I thought had happened, and suddenly half the world
remembers and believe I am trying to ruin abll and the world. It was ME
today who posted the link to the 4 post thread. Thats it, I really don't
mind how much Charlie and his dear friends hate me. I still think it is
strange it took a month and help from Joy to happen, anyway hate me, I never
was Mr.. Big, I will not repeat what Charlie said to me about me being gay.
Have a ball, sorry Joy.
Graham


Charlie

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Jan 7, 2010, 6:21:29 PM1/7/10
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Are you pleased with the results?

Charlie

Joy

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Jan 7, 2010, 6:27:40 PM1/7/10
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"Graham" <j.hu...@chello.nl> wrote in message
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Both of us posted things we now realize we shouldn't have. As far as I'm
concerned, the whole saga is over. I don't plan to post on the subject
again, in any way. I appreciate all those who came to my support.

Joy


Graham

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Jan 7, 2010, 6:32:46 PM1/7/10
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"Charlie" <cbau...@yahoo.com> schreef in bericht
news:4cf317ad-4553-406c...@m25g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...

Charlie

.............
Are you, you said the things and even thanked me, but I should not have
brought the lines to another ng, and certainly not anon. I was angry and
when later it seemed no big deal to you or your group I was angry with
myself. I had reacted so, and promised myself not to do it again. I honestly
had no idea Joy meant my posts this week, and even you had forgotten it.
G.


Charlie

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Jan 7, 2010, 6:42:18 PM1/7/10
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On Jan 7, 3:27 pm, "Joy" <toas...@real-me.net> wrote:
> "Graham" <j.hut...@chello.nl> wrote in message
> Joy- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

It is NOT OVER!

You two would like that very much wouldn't you?

Believe me, IT IS NOT OVER.

Charlie

Joan F (MI)

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Jan 7, 2010, 7:23:50 PM1/7/10
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The only problem with trying to reveal him there is that they already know
what an ass he is and they get a vicarious thrill out of him attacking
people they don't like.
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toci

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Jan 7, 2010, 7:55:16 PM1/7/10
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Graham, I believe you did exactly the right thing, except that perhaps
you should have added a note saying that the holier than thou,
blackballing-enamored new group should be responsible for its members
and what they say elsewhere. I don't know how to do it, but I'd like
everything Charlie says here to be forward on to abll. Toci

toci

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Jan 7, 2010, 7:57:17 PM1/7/10
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On Jan 7, 5:27 pm, "Joy" <toas...@real-me.net> wrote:
> "Graham" <j.hut...@chello.nl> wrote in message
> Joy- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

I don't see how you did anything wrong. Toci

toci

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Jan 7, 2010, 8:03:04 PM1/7/10
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On Jan 7, 6:23 pm, "Joan F \(MI\)" <jjf...@removethisameritech.net>
wrote:

He's more than an ass, he's a sadistic monster. He has written things
which are breathtakingly cruel to AnneJ, to Graham, and to Joy.
Toci

Charlie

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Jan 7, 2010, 8:05:45 PM1/7/10
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> Toci- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Yes I did. And it was written over my name. I am not a sliding turd
slipping under peoples feet. Everything I say I stand behind.

Charlie

toci

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Jan 7, 2010, 8:05:45 PM1/7/10
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On Jan 7, 6:33 pm, Sacha <sa...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> Charlie, please think again about this.  It would be better if it was
> held to be over.  Graham is very manipulative and he has used you and
> Joy.  Joy was mistaken but not untruthful and even then, she was not
> entirely mistaken because Graham had used abll, too.
>
> Please don't allow your anger to permit him to go on doing so.  Just
> think about that for a bit, eh?  All you will do is empower him and he
> will enjoy that.
> --
> Sacha- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Sacha, I can't understand your wanting to abet the cruelty that
Charlie shows. Toci

Joy

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Jan 7, 2010, 8:24:29 PM1/7/10
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"toci" <gin...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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***

Thank you, Toci. What I posted could be construed as gossip. Also, I've
complained about people dragging arguments to other newsgroups, and in a way
I abetted in that. However, I can't undo it.

Joy


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Charlie

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Jan 7, 2010, 8:32:17 PM1/7/10
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On Jan 7, 5:24 pm, "Joy" <toas...@real-me.net> wrote:
> "toci" <gina...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

You could say that you caused this entire sorry mess and you were
wrong.

Charlie

Charlie

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Jan 7, 2010, 8:35:20 PM1/7/10
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On Jan 7, 5:18 pm, Janet Baraclough <janet.and.j...@zetnet.co.uk>
wrote:
> The message
> <67790dbf-9bff-4291-971b-268951cf5...@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com>
> from toci <gina...@yahoo.com> contains these words:

>
>   I don't know how to do it, but I'd like
>
> > everything Charlie says here to be forward on to abll.   Toci
>
>    Easy. Click on reply with quote and you will have a postable copy.
> On my newsreader the name of the group its to be sent to appears in the
> top panel.
>    Delete "alt.sixty.plus" and type in  alt.books.louis-lamour  Click send.
>
>    Janet

Fine. You have got me ASP.

I have left ABLL and am now a permanent part of ASP. I will do all my
posting here. You should be happy because you will not have to forward
anything.

Oh HAPPY DAY!

Charlie

Jean B.

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Jan 7, 2010, 8:36:32 PM1/7/10
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I guess I suspected at the time--and I understood your motive.
Still L,

--
Jean B.

Jean B.

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Jan 7, 2010, 8:38:52 PM1/7/10
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Joan F (MI) wrote:
> The only problem with trying to reveal him there is that they already know
> what an ass he is and they get a vicarious thrill out of him attacking
> people they don't like.

I'll ponder that.
--
Jean B.

Geno4321

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Jan 7, 2010, 9:05:34 PM1/7/10
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"toci" <gin...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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You want me to take the silly ass on.
Come on foul mouth take a swing. Bet your too cowardly.
Your afraid of a real man. I not na woman and I'll kick your sorry ass thru
your foul mouth.


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Charlie

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Jan 7, 2010, 9:23:24 PM1/7/10
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On Jan 7, 6:07 pm, Anne Welsh Jackson <amygd...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:

> toci <gina...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Graham, I believe you did exactly the right thing, except that
> > perhaps you should have added a note saying that the holier
> > than thou, blackballing-enamored new group should be
> > responsible for its members and what they say elsewhere.  
> > I don't know how to do it, but I'd like everything Charlie says
> > here to be forward on to abll.   Toci
>
> Toci, it wouldn't make a blind bit of difference.  They'd still
> kiss his arse, for fear he turns his "rabid dog" attentions on them!
>
> The real Charlie is the one who posts insults here there and
> everywhere but abll.  The other Charlie is a recent invention,
> and he won't be able to keep up the pretence for long.
>
> --
> AnneJ

You soooooooo smart. I've seen the light. I belong here with all the
other nasty bastards.

Charlie

Charlie

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Jan 7, 2010, 9:25:54 PM1/7/10
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On Jan 7, 6:13 pm, Anne Welsh Jackson <amygd...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
> toci <gina...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Sacha, I can't understand your wanting to abet the cruelty that
> > Charlie shows.     Toci
>
> Because it suits her agenda, Toci.  Despite all protestations to the
> contrary, there is one...
>

> --
> AnneJ

Oh I can't wait to join with you Annie in getting things really
humming on ASP.

Charlie

Lonestar

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Jan 7, 2010, 10:36:39 PM1/7/10
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toci wrote:

> Graham, I believe you did exactly the right thing, except that perhaps
> you should have added a note saying that the holier than thou,
> blackballing-enamored new group should be responsible for its members
> and what they say elsewhere. I don't know how to do it, but I'd like
> everything Charlie says here to be forward on to abll. Toci

CODSWALLOP!
Robert(Tx)

Lonestar

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Jan 7, 2010, 10:43:44 PM1/7/10
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Geno4321 wrote:

> You want me to take the silly ass on.
> Come on foul mouth take a swing. Bet your too cowardly.
> Your afraid of a real man. I not na woman and I'll kick your sorry ass thru
> your foul mouth.
>

Eugenio Kent, aka geno1234, aka genio, aka geno432, the OLD TROLL from
the muddy banks of the Ohio, puffs up his banty rooster ass.
Robert(Tx)

Joy

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Jan 8, 2010, 2:44:09 AM1/8/10
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"Janet Baraclough" <janet.a...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3130303039303...@zetnet.co.uk...
> The message
> <67790dbf-9bff-4291...@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com>
> from toci <gin...@yahoo.com> contains these words:

>
>
> I don't know how to do it, but I'd like
>> everything Charlie says here to be forward on to abll. Toci
>
> Easy. Click on reply with quote and you will have a postable copy.
> On my newsreader the name of the group its to be sent to appears in the
> top panel.
> Delete "alt.sixty.plus" and type in alt.books.louis-lamour Click send.
>
> Janet

Why would anybody do that? Look at all the trouble that was caused by
sending one or two of his posts over there.

Joy


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Gordon H

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Jan 8, 2010, 6:30:52 AM1/8/10
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In message <7qngll...@mid.individual.net>, Jean B. <jb...@rcn.com>
writes

It doesn't take much thought...
Joan always tells it how it is. It makes enemies of the mendacious
and those who seek to manipulate, but who cares about them?
--
Gordon H
Remove "invalid" to reply

Gordon H

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Jan 8, 2010, 6:34:10 AM1/8/10
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In message <4b46e247$0$12840$bd46...@news.dslextreme.com>, Joy
<toa...@real-me.net> writes

>
>Why would anybody do that? Look at all the trouble that was caused by
>sending one or two of his posts over there.
>
>Joy

The 'trouble' here started when Barry had his anti-British rant about
pedophiles, Judith jumped on the bandwagon, and chaos ensued.

We can do without those who are jealous of the friendly peaceful chat
which was going on here before they invaded.

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FarmI

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Jan 8, 2010, 8:13:08 AM1/8/10
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"Janet Baraclough" <janet.a...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> The message <4b46e247$0$12840$bd46...@news.dslextreme.com>
> from "Joy" <toa...@real-me.net> contains these words:
> Why should abll's posters cause trouble here, when those here who do
> NOT post to abll, do not cause trouble there?
>
> Graham IS a poster to abll under his own name. Did you know that?
> Charlie also, reposted Grahams crosspostings twice in abll.
> So, despite the lies and protestations and denials , the problem
> posts in abll ARE by their own posting members.
>
> Those posters here who take no part in abll can't be blamed for what
> abll's posters do in abll; yet such asp posters including you, Bobbie
> and Gordon
> took the flak and abuse for something they did not do.
>
> If abll posters want to behave badly they should be encouraged to
> keep their mess there, not here. Let their own members deal with it.

They won't deal with anything as they are not capable of it. They are a
very needy bunch and part of their need is for this group to be disrupted
and to miss them and to talk about missing them. We didn't miss them, we
got on well without them and that REALLY pissed off the poor needy things.


IlIlIlIl.

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Jan 8, 2010, 10:26:22 AM1/8/10
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On Jan 7, 11:44 pm, "Joy" <toas...@real-me.net> wrote:
> "Janet Baraclough" <janet.and.j...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
>
> news:3130303039303...@zetnet.co.uk...
>
> > The message
> > <67790dbf-9bff-4291-971b-268951cf5...@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com>
> > from toci <gina...@yahoo.com> contains these words:

>
> >  I don't know how to do it, but I'd like
> >> everything Charlie says here to be forward on to abll.   Toci
>
> >   Easy. Click on reply with quote and you will have a postable copy.
> > On my newsreader the name of the group its to be sent to appears in the
> > top panel.
> >   Delete "alt.sixty.plus" and type in  alt.books.louis-lamour  Click send.
>
> >   Janet
>
> Why would anybody do that?  Look at all the trouble that was caused by
> sending one or two of his posts over there.
>
> Joy

And look at what part you played in that.

Charlie

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