Yet another gay-themed car ad!
Paul DG
We all know how Volkswagon premiered the "Da Da Da" ad during
ELLEN---which featured the ambiguously gay, multi-racial couple. Now,
Honda is getting into the act with the flamingly queer secret agent on
its new 1998 Accord Coupe ad. The handsome, well-coiffed guy comes
out of a door in his body tight suit, presses a button and up pops a
sports car (along with a mechanic working on the engine). The
mechanic shrugs and Mr. Queer Secret Agent gives him this bitchy look
and puts both hands on his hips. Oh Mary! I've seen less attitude
from X'd out queens at dance clubs. When he finally gets in his Honda
and drives off down the driveway, he has to stop because the garage
door won't open and he throws a hissy fit yet again. Maybe the new
Accord will be the car Rupert Everett uses in his upcoming faggified
film spoof on James Bond. In any case, the ad is a hoot. I'm glad
these car companies are finally acknowledging who has all the
disposable income in this country.
--Paul
Grnbrier
po...@NOSPAMpop.dn.net (Paul DG) writes:
<snippage>
>I'm glad these car companies are finally acknowledging who has all the
>disposable income in this country.
Cadillac's newest model: "Cruella de Ville d'elegance" with a smart
Dalmation-spotted phoney-cabriolet roof, complete with matching luggage and
umbrella.
Doogie
OTVerge
po...@NOSPAMpop.dn.net (Paul DG) machine gunned:
>
>We all know how Volkswagon premiered the "Da Da Da" ad during
>ELLEN---which featured the ambiguously gay, multi-racial couple. Now,
>Honda is getting into the act with the flamingly queer secret agent on
>its new 1998 Accord Coupe ad. The handsome, well-coiffed guy comes
>out of a door in his body tight suit, presses a button and up pops a
>sports car (along with a mechanic working on the engine). The
>mechanic shrugs and Mr. Queer Secret Agent gives him this bitchy look
>and puts both hands on his hips. Oh Mary! I've seen less attitude
>from X'd out queens at dance clubs. When he finally gets in his Honda
>and drives off down the driveway, he has to stop because the garage
>door won't open and he throws a hissy fit yet again. Maybe the new
>Accord will be the car Rupert Everett uses in his upcoming faggified
>these car companies are finally acknowledging who has all the
>disposable income in this country.
>
I haven't gotten MY disposable income check for MONTHS!
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charlie
try reading paul's post again, but this time as bette davis. :-)
Darren
Paul DG wrote in message <344a8107....@news2.dn.net>...
>We all know how Volkswagon premiered the "Da Da Da" ad during
>ELLEN---which featured the ambiguously gay, multi-racial couple. Now,
>Honda is getting into the act with the flamingly queer secret agent on
>its new 1998 Accord Coupe ad. The handsome, well-coiffed guy comes
>out of a door in his body tight suit, presses a button and up pops a
>sports car (along with a mechanic working on the engine). The
>mechanic shrugs and Mr. Queer Secret Agent gives him this bitchy look
>and puts both hands on his hips. Oh Mary! I've seen less attitude
>from X'd out queens at dance clubs. When he finally gets in his Honda
>and drives off down the driveway, he has to stop because the garage
>door won't open and he throws a hissy fit yet again. Maybe the new
>Accord will be the car Rupert Everett uses in his upcoming faggified
>film spoof on James Bond. In any case, the ad is a hoot. I'm glad
>these car companies are finally acknowledging who has all the
>disposable income in this country.
>
>--Paul
It's interresting about that Volkswagon add, my lover and I watched it
together, we are an interracial couple also. Although I picked up what I
saw as a gay theme, he saw two college students with little or nothing to do
just driving around. It's ambigious at best, and doesn't confirm anything
one way or the other which I guess is the intent. Less risk, now let's get
on to some hand holding and hugs maybe?? Or at least some definite "come
f#%K me" looks.
Twc6
>It's interresting about that Volkswagon add, my lover and I watched it
>together, we are an interracial couple also. Although I picked up what I
>saw as a gay theme, he saw two college students with little or nothing to do
>just driving around.
Yeah, that's how I took it to. It just sort of had that "college roommate" kind
of feel to it. They pick up the chair and decided to take it home, then think
better of it.
I know I furnished my first apartment off the street
Paul DG
On Mon, 20 Oct 1997 12:55:47 GMT, di...@execulink.com (Diana) wrote:
>I'd like to ask a stupid question here before I read the rest of your
>post... how do we know this couple is gay? They are bopping around a
>car, pick up a chair, decide it smells too bad and then they drop it
>off.
>
>Did they embrace in the version you saw? kiss? do the nasty?
>
>Diana, who doesn't give a rat shit if anyone is gay but was just
>wondering.
It's all about 'dar, dear. Astute advertisers know how to be as queer
as boy in a Barbie convention without being so obvious that Pat
Robertson knows what's going on.
--Paul
G. M. Lupo
Diana wrote:
> I'd like to ask a stupid question here before I read the rest of your
> post... how do we know this couple is gay? They are bopping around a
> car, pick up a chair, decide it smells too bad and then they drop it
> off.
No, but the two guys doing it in the back seat was a dead giveaway.
Matt Lupo
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Cleek
Would that be the automotive back seat or the anatomical back seat?
GM Lupo:
>the two guys doing it in the backseat was a dead giveaway ((of a
gay-themed car ad))
ECALLEN111
tw...@aol.com (Twc6) wrote:
etc.
>>It's interresting about that Volkswagon add, my lover and I watched it
>>together, we are an interracial couple also. Although I picked up what I
>>saw as a gay theme, he saw two college students with little or nothing to do
>>just driving around.
>
>Yeah, that's how I took it to. It just sort of had that "college roommate"
>kind
> of feel to it. They pick up the chair and decided to take it home, then
>think
> better of it.
>
>
I figured they could go either way, so to speak, until I saw the latest VW ad.
Two white guys, basically married. The shot is from the backseat, looking out
the windshield. The driver is giving a running commentary on pulling into
traffic, while the passenger's reaction can only be described as spousal.
Someone has done some serious gay market research at VW's agency.
greg
Paul DG
On 20 Oct 1997 08:54:00 -0700, "Darren" <no...@m.com> wrote:
>
>It's interresting about that Volkswagon add, my lover and I watched it
>together, we are an interracial couple also. Although I picked up what I
>saw as a gay theme, he saw two college students with little or nothing to do
>just driving around. It's ambigious at best, and doesn't confirm anything
>one way or the other which I guess is the intent. Less risk, now let's get
>on to some hand holding and hugs maybe?? Or at least some definite "come
>f#%K me" looks.
>
I think the original, longer ad is a lot more queer than the ad you
commonly see today. In the original ad, the two guys interact a lot
more than they do in the shorter version. Still, I think the queer
subtext is there for anyone who has 'dar.
--Paul
Tootoofabu
Some Psycho wrote:
>
>About the "Da Da Da" Volkwagon ad,I thought they just seemed like a couple of
>college room-mates who were out trolling for old furniture for their apt.I
>think if you want to see something,you'll see it.If I were a gay person and I
>wanted gay images,if I saw any two same gendered people together,I would
>imagine they were gay too.
>
You thought it seemed like a couple of straight roomates because you are naive,
if not clueless, dear. Please note: gays don't think that all straight people
who ride in the same car are gay. We do get suspicious, however, when two
gorgeous twenty-somethings are picking out furniture together. Say hi to all
the other psychos on Mars.
Fabu
Lee Weiser
In article <344E76...@rocketmail.com> RFerrie <rfe...@rocketmail.com> writes:
>From: RFerrie <rfe...@rocketmail.com>
>Subject: Re: Yet another gay-themed car ad!
>Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 17:57:22 -0400
<posts snipped>
>Well, I have to say that *none* of the fabulous and gorgeous
>20-something gay men that *I* know would be caught dead snagging a
>yellow velour chair out of someone's garbage. Nor would it have taken
>them several blocks to notice the unpleasant aroma.
>Hence, my assumption of "college roommates" was based on behavior,
>rather than looks.
>Although someone here mentioned that the "long" version was more
>indicative of a relationship, and I haven't seen it... so...
Ditto for me as well.
--Lee
RFerrie
Well, I have to say that *none* of the fabulous and gorgeous
20-something gay men that *I* know would be caught dead snagging a
yellow velour chair out of someone's garbage. Nor would it have taken
them several blocks to notice the unpleasant aroma.
Hence, my assumption of "college roommates" was based on behavior,
rather than looks.
Although someone here mentioned that the "long" version was more
indicative of a relationship, and I haven't seen it... so...
Renee
can...@webtv.net
re the VW ad with the chair
they must be a couple because they don't have to speak to understand
each other, and they're both similar type "babes".
oh, and they just look so "comfortable" together :)
Paul DG
On Wed, 22 Oct 1997 19:03:24 GMT, Greg...@fairix.com (Greg Mars)
wrote:
>I bounced this (Is it a gay commercial) idea off a whole wack (4) of
>gays I work with. They feel it's more College roommate/ gays friends
>then gay couple. If they were a couple, after unloading the chair,
>they would be arguing over who's idea it was to pick it up in the
>first place.
Your friends are wrong.
--Paul
Larry Guzman
Darren wrote:
> >I think the original, longer ad is a lot more queer than the ad you
> >commonly see today. In the original ad, the two guys interact a lot
> >more than they do in the shorter version. Still, I think the queer
> >subtext is there for anyone who has 'dar.
> >
>
> Well, that explains it, my lover has a very defective Gay Activated Yearning
> Detection And Recognition (GAYDAR) device.
>
> Darren
So that's what GAYDAR stands for for! ROTFLMAO!!
joanne rochester
RFerrie wrote:
>
> Well, I have to say that *none* of the fabulous and gorgeous
> 20-something gay men that *I* know would be caught dead snagging a
> yellow velour chair out of someone's garbage. Nor would it have taken
> them several blocks to notice the unpleasant aroma.
This statment has the ring of Authentic Truth.
jo.
PUZZLR
psycho sayz:
>About the "Da Da Da" Volkwagon ad,I thought they just seemed like a couple of
>college room-mates who were out trolling for old furniture for their apt.
That's the impression I got. I don't think they were necessarily trolling for
furniture, btw. It seemed as if they were just driving around, saw a couch,
put in the car, noticed the stench, and got rid of it. Typical cliche' about
college kids getting used furniture to fill their apt.
Puzz
po...@pop.dn.net
In article <62m6b3$cov$1...@newsd-103.bryant.webtv.net>,
And as someone already posted, VW chose to premiere this ad during the
"infamous" ELLEN coming out episode. VW fielded questions from the press
and public about the ambiguously gay couple, so obviously the subtext
didn't go over everybody's head.
True, VW was coy about what's going on with the ad and wants the viewer
to draw his/her own conclusions and I don't have a problem with this.
Different groups can identify with what's going on; that scenario is an
advertiser's dream. I just get tired hearing from some that the ad _has
to be_ about two straight college guys because of folks' conscious or
subconscious heterosexism and could _never_ possibly be about two gay
guys.
I guess I expected a more savvy eye from ASG.
In any case, no one has yet commented on the queer subtext in the new
Honda Accord Coupe secret agent ad.
--Paul
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`> I figured they could go either way, so to speak, until I saw the latest
VW ad. Two white guys, basically married. The shot is from the backseat,
looking out the windshield. The driver is giving a running commentary on
pulling into traffic, while the passenger's reaction can only be described
as spousal. Someone has done some serious gay market research at VW's
agency.
I saw (and loved) the second VW ad.
I suppose the two guys from the first ad _might_ be considered a couple,
but the guys in the second ad definitely acted like a couple -- especially
with that "whatever" attitude at the end of the ad.
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On Mon, 20 Oct 1997 18:02:41 GMT, ritc...@osu.edu (Michael Ritchie)
wrote:
>In article <344c542f....@news.execulink.com> di...@execulink.com (Diana) writes:
>>po...@NOSPAMpop.dn.net (Paul DG) wrote:
>
>>>We all know how Volkswagon premiered the "Da Da Da" ad during
>>>ELLEN---which featured the ambiguously gay, multi-racial couple.
>>
>>I'd like to ask a stupid question here before I read the rest of your
>>post... how do we know this couple is gay? They are bopping around a
>>car, pick up a chair, decide it smells too bad and then they drop it
>>off.
>>
>>Did they embrace in the version you saw? kiss? do the nasty?
>
>It's ambigious enough to be claimed as a gay ad (and Volkswagen said
>that they debuted the ad on the coming-out Ellen on purpose, though
>the spokesperson stopped short of saying they were deliberately
>aiming the ad at the gay market), and that's darn well what we're
>gonna do!!
What about the one with two guys who apparently live in their car who
wake up and make it just in time for work. I really don't understand
the "concept" of the ad.
lee
who wishes he could remember what car it was.
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kiki
Add me to the list of folks who can't figure out where the gay theme comes
from.
Even my gay friends don't get the gay thing from the ad (although they are
unanimously agreed that the bald guy is a hottie.
kiki
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PUZZLR <puz...@aol.com> wrote in article
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Diana
On Wed, 29 Oct 1997 21:17:22 -0800, maxicat
<max...@flatearthlink.net> wrote:
>Diana wrote:
>>
>>
>> Diana, who's headin' back to her plough,
>> P.S. The African American [so, I'm being politically correct] guy
>> didn't set my 'dar off at all. I thought he was pretty damn cute.
>
>I'm trying to figure out why a guy's being cute would be evidence he
>wasn't gay -- ? Haven't you ever seen Rupert Everett, for heaven's
>sakes?
>
>Susie
You are right Susie, after re-reading the post, the statement came out
wrong. No, he didn't set of my 'dar is one statement. I thought he was
really cute was another statement, neither related to the other.
Sorry for the confusion.
Diana
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SVCORBIN
you folks are COMPLETELY missing the point of the ad.
which is the claim that a chair that size can fit in the back seat.
WHICH I DONT BELIEVE FOR A MINUTE. they must have cut part of the bottom off or
something, but there is NO WAY
a chair that size is going to fit in a volkswagon.
Monysmom
Paul DG
I get it! The phrases "That won't fit" followed by "Sure it will" are
very well-known in the gay community.
--Paul (at least I've heard Patrick Stewart utter them on occasion)
Frank Green
Monysmom wrote:
>
> SVCORBIN wrote:
> >
> >you folks are COMPLETELY missing the point of the ad. which is the claim that
> a chair that size can fit in the back seat. WHICH I DONT BELIEVE FOR A MINUTE.
> they must have cut part of the bottom off
> >or something, but there is NO WAY a chair that size is going to fit in a
> volkswagon.
> >
> And therefore, the two guys must be gay! Doncha get it?
Da da da ....... da da da ....... what was the question?
vp...@imap1.asu.edu
> >>you folks are COMPLETELY missing the point of the ad. which is the claim that
> > a chair that size can fit in the back seat. WHICH I DONT BELIEVE FOR A MINUTE.
> > they must have cut part of the bottom off
> >>or something, but there is NO WAY a chair that size is going to fit in a
> > volkswagon.
> >>
> >And therefore, the two guys must be gay! Doncha get it?
Um, they slathered KY all over it?
l mcelroy
Actually I once owned a VW Dasher station wagon (a rattley old lemon)
and it was built quite "tall" for a car. We could slide in bass amps
upright (not the big stacks, but a standard size amp). And people
always commented on much "ceiling room" there was when they sat down in
the back. So I believe in the chair concept. Not sure I find those
guys gay. They seem like 80's college rock throw-backs to me, hence the
song, which was an 80's college rock hit (in case you didn't know).
Obviously someone on that advertising team is my age (33) and remembers
it well.