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Kim Goldberg

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Jul 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/13/96
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pHd (pdelg...@pbs.org) writes:
> I was talking with friend yesterday and somehow Tom Selleck came up.
>
> This friend met Selleck in the men's room at last year's White House
> Correspondents Dinner. They were standing side by side at the urinals and
> my rather bold friend started chatting Tom up and took the opportunity to
> glance down at Tom's wing ding. According to my friend, Tom is very large
> while flaccid. ...

Sounds like a case of wysiwyg, since as everyone here on asg now
knows thanks the scintillating dick-size thread a while back
("Brad Pitt's Weenie," if I'm not mistaken), if he's a shower,
he's not a grower.

Kim, wondering why the two can never go together...

wild

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Jul 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/13/96
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There is a photo pretty widely available of Tom Selleck on the
internet....not one of those silly fakes, just him caught in the shower.

He is not a large man...methinks your friend engages in hyperbole.


DBJ

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Jul 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/13/96
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In <4s6tjd$b...@freenet-news.carleton.ca> at...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Kim Goldberg) writes:
>
>pHd (pdelg...@pbs.org) writes:

>> This friend met Selleck in the men's room at last year's White House
>> Correspondents Dinner. They were standing side by side at the urinals and
>> my rather bold friend started chatting Tom up and took the opportunity to
>> glance down at Tom's wing ding. According to my friend, Tom is very large
>> while flaccid. ...
>
>Sounds like a case of wysiwyg, since as everyone here on asg now
^^^^^^^

>knows thanks the scintillating dick-size thread a while back
>("Brad Pitt's Weenie," if I'm not mistaken), if he's a shower,
>he's not a grower.
>
>Kim, wondering why the two can never go together...
>

Okay, my a.s.g. education continues. I was about to ask WTF wysiwyg
meant, but I thought I'd look it up myself first (being sure ahead of
time it wouldn't be there). It was.

To enhance the full understanding of the above statement for my fellow
previously uninformed wonderers:

WYSIWYG (all caps) adj. = [what you see is what you get]
a display generated by word-processing or desktop-publishing
software that EXACTLY reflects the appearance of the printed
document

So, anyone have any knowledge if Tom's appearance IS limited to
wysiwyg status when it comes to "performance" standards?

Beverly


Jeff Kirk

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Jul 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/14/96
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In article <msg124.8...@nycnet.com>, Jon...@nycnet.com says...
>
>What?! I'm 9" when soft and 12.5" when hard, so that sort of deflates
>your "shower not grower" theory...

Um, we're talking about penises here, not biceps...

Jeff
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Jonah13

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Mr Tisane

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>>>From: pdelg...@pbs.org (pHd):

I was talking with friend yesterday and somehow Tom Selleck came up.

This friend met Selleck in the men's room at last year's White House


Correspondents Dinner. They were standing side by side at the urinals and
my rather bold friend started chatting Tom up and took the opportunity to
glance down at Tom's wing ding. According to my friend, Tom is very large
while flaccid.

They discussed the episode of "Magnum, PI" in which Tom was nominated for
an Emmy (I think it was the one in which Magnum was stranded in the
Pacific and had to tread water for hours). My friend said Tom seemed like
a nice guy.

Oh well, most of us in ASG think Tom is a big prick. Now, we can ponder
the literal as well as figurative ramifications of this label.

*********************
Ok. I couldn't resist, I had to delurk for this one:

From "The 1811 Dictionary of the Vulgar Tongue":

LOBCOCK. A large relaxed penis: also a dull, inanimate fellow.


Back to hiding,
Kipling

Craig Smith

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Jul 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/14/96
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kir...@onr.com (Jeff Kirk) wrote:

> In article <msg124.8...@nycnet.com>, Jon...@nycnet.com says...
> >

> >What?! I'm 9" when soft and 12.5" when hard, so that sort of deflates
> >your "shower not grower" theory...
>

> Um, we're talking about penises here, not biceps...

Or noses. Methinks Jonah's a latter-day Pinocchio.

Craig


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John Sullivan

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Jul 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/15/96
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In an effort to prevent the abuse that poor Jonah is about to suffer:
He's being entirely accurate about his endowment.

Sadly, it seems to be the only thing he finds distinguishing about
himself. He'll display it at the drop of a ... whatever, which has
made him something of a legend around the NYC BBS circuit.

--JWS
Still wondering why I felt compelled to verify this information.

>In article <msg124.8...@nycnet.com>, >Jon...@nycnet.com says...
>>
>>What?! I'm 9" when soft and 12.5" when hard, so that sort of deflates
>>your "shower not grower" theory...

>Um, we're talking about penises here, not biceps...
>

DBJ

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Jul 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/15/96
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>
>What?! I'm 9" when soft and 12.5" when hard, so that sort of deflates
>your "shower not grower" theory...
>

Hey, where did you say you live!! Heh, heh!!

Just kidding with ya.

Beverly

Leslie Strom

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Jul 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/15/96
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The kid who played the bike-riding Italian-imitating Dave character in
the late Steven Tesich's movie "Breaking Away"... anyone know what he's
doing now? He was in an Altman movie ("A Wedding") and that was all I
ever saw of him.

Leslie
ASGTPR #65B

Christopher John Markle

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lst...@198.137.231.14 (Leslie Strom) writes:

>Leslie
>ASGTPR #65B

I think his name is Dennis Christopher. he was interviewed
in the LA Times Calendar section a few weeks back. Usual
story about career not going the way he wanted, getting
into bad habits, etc. Believe he was in a play currently.
Didn't sound in too bad of shape.

Check out the movie "California Dreamin'" for grade-A
cheese (that's a compliment).


wild

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Jul 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/15/96
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This should bring an end to the controversy...


I hope your servers can handle it....

SELLEK.JPG

David Migicovsky

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Jul 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/15/96
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In article <4sdbed$n...@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com>, dbj...@ix.netcom.com (DBJ) entertained us with:

I don't think a 39% increase counts as a grower. To me, a grower should have
at least a 100% increase, which is not at all uncommon among "grower, not
shower"

And quite frankly, I think anyone with 9 soft *or* hard, or 12.5 hard, would
be too busy to post here.

Alexandra

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Jul 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/15/96
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In <pdelgrosso-15...@pbs10407.pbs.org> pdelg...@pbs.org
(pHd) writes:
>
>In article <31e954cc....@nntp.ix.netcom.com>,
crs...@ix.netcom.com
>(Craig Smith) wrote:
>
>:> kir...@onr.com (Jeff Kirk) wrote:
>:>
>:> > In article <msg124.8...@nycnet.com>, Jon...@nycnet.com
says...
>:> > >
>:> > >What?! I'm 9" when soft and 12.5" when hard, so that sort of

deflates
>:> > >your "shower not grower" theory...
>;> >
>:> > Um, we're talking about penises here, not biceps...
>:>
>:> Or noses. Methinks Jonah's a latter-day Pinocchio.
>:>
>:> Craig
>
>Well, one could still sit on his face and make him lie.

While he was in Pinocchio mode? Hmmmmmm, I've heard of worse things....

Kisses,
Alexandra

drdave

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Jul 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/16/96
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> The kid who played the bike-riding Italian-imitating Dave character in
> the late Steven Tesich's movie "Breaking Away"... anyone know what he's
> doing now? He was in an Altman movie ("A Wedding") and that was all I
> ever saw of him.


Dennis Christopher has been in a number of movies, but probably nothing
you've seen (or heard of).

1.Silencers, The (1996) .... Comdor
2.Boys Life (1995)
3.It's My Party (1995) .... Douglas Reedy
4.Disco Years, The (1994)
5.Plughead Rewired: Circuitry Man II (1994) .... Leech

6.Doppelganger (1993) .... Doctor Heller
7.Necronomicon (1993) (part 3) .... Dale Porkel
8.Willing to Kill: The Texas Cheerleader Story (1992) (TV)
.... Randy

9.Dead Women in Lingerie (1991) .... Lapin
10.False Arrest (1991) (TV) .... Wally Roberts
11.Circuitry Man (1990) .... Leech
... aka Circulatory Man (1990)
12.Stephen King's It (1990) (TV) .... Eddie Kaspbrak

... aka It (1990) (TV)

13.Sinful Life, A (1989)
14.Alien Predator (1987)
15.Lot swierkowej gesi (1987) .... Friend
... aka Fligth of the Spruce Goose (1987)
16.Jake Speed (1986) .... Desmond Floyd
17.Don't Cry, It's Only Thunder (1982)
18.Jack and the Beanstalk (1982) (TV)
19.Chariots of Fire (1981) .... Charles Paddock
20.Fade to Black (1980) .... Eric Binford

21.Breaking Away (1979) (N:GGN) .... Dave
22.California Dreaming (1979) .... T.T.
23.Elvis (1979) (TV)
24.September 30, 1955 (1978) .... Eugene
... aka 24 Hours of the Rebel (1978)
... aka 9/30/55 (1978)
25.Wedding, A (1978) .... Hughie Brenner
26.Bernice Bobs Her Hair (1976) (TV) .... Charley
27.Blood and Lace (1971) .... Pete
28.Young Graduates, The (1971)


dr. "wondering if I brought down the entire Internet Movie Data Base by
publishing the address here" dave

-----------------------------------------

Why is it that some days even music videos challenge
my attention span......and long term memory?

-----------------------------------------
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-=JR=-

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Jul 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/16/96
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In article <pdelgrosso-15...@pbs10407.pbs.org>, pdelg...@pbs.org
says...
>
>In article <4sbsv3$5...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, mrti...@aol.com (Mr
>Tisane) wrote:
>
>
>:> From "The 1811 Dictionary of the Vulgar Tongue":

>:>
>:> LOBCOCK. A large relaxed penis: also a dull, inanimate fellow.
>
>Thus, "lobcock" is somewhat synonymous with "Matt Drudge."

Except for the "large" part.


Netnom

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Jul 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/16/96
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man, this TS story makes celebhood seem like a raw deal. you can't take a
leak in privacy and god help you if you need to do something noisier.

i remember a documentary about teh Queen that noted one of the most
asked questions about her when she's going to make an appearance is "what
shd we do if she has to go?" and the answer from the palace is....she
never does, in public places. apparently she was trained from childhood
to have amazing ....fortitude. (and she must not drink much of that good
english tea!)

Iane Morgan
*************************************
Remember, they're only words....
unless they're true.
(David Mamet)
*************************************

Carlos Rodriguez

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Jul 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/16/96
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> There is a photo pretty widely available of Tom Selleck on the
> internet....not one of those silly fakes, just him caught in the shower.
>
> He is not a large man...methinks your friend engages in hyperbole.
>

What's the url address. Seeing is believing.

Carlos

ka...@delphi.com

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Jul 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/16/96
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David Migicovsky <dmigicov@_interlog.com> writes:

>I don't think a 39% increase counts as a grower. To me, a grower should have
>at least a 100% increase, which is not at all uncommon among "grower, not
>shower"
>
>And quite frankly, I think anyone with 9 soft *or* hard, or 12.5 hard, would
>be too busy to post here.

.
Of course, a 9 soft isn't going to do ANYbody any good.
.
kassa

Sherrill C.J. Edwards

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Jul 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/16/96
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Christopher John Markle wrote:

>
> lst...@198.137.231.14 (Leslie Strom) writes:
>
> >The kid who played the bike-riding Italian-imitating Dave character in
> >the late Steven Tesich's movie "Breaking Away"... anyone know what he's
> >doing now? He was in an Altman movie ("A Wedding") and that was all I
> >ever saw of him.
>
> >Leslie
> >ASGTPR #65B
>
> I think his name is Dennis Christopher. he was interviewed
> in the LA Times Calendar section a few weeks back. Usual
> story about career not going the way he wanted, getting
> into bad habits, etc. Believe he was in a play currently.
> Didn't sound in too bad of shape.
>
> Check out the movie "California Dreamin'" for grade-A
> cheese (that's a compliment).

Wasn't he also in "Chariots of Fire" as the not-so-nice American
competitor (not Brad Davis' Dutch Schultz, but the other one.)

Sabine the Diva Chick

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Jul 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/17/96
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As the Wunderbunnies munched my email, Jonah13 mentioned:

>What?! I'm 9" when soft and 12.5" when hard, so that sort of deflates
>your "shower not grower" theory...

nothing against you, jonah, as i've never to my knowledge seen
your penis and have no reason whatsoever to question your
veracity, but:

are all of you guys measuring from your asshole, or what?

i've seen a veritable cornucopia of penii in my time, from the
sublime to the ridiculous, but why is it that no one EVER seems
to say that they're 4'' soft and 7'' hard? this must be a guy
thing, as everyone i've ever met with penis envy has been male.

definitely against my better judgment i'll add, "mama always told
me, only white boys measure."

sabine the diva chick
ASGTPR #40DDD -stop on by for only the finest in lingerie and
elvis memorabilia!

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Rick Rashid

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Jul 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/17/96
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On Tue, 16 Jul 1996 22:09:57 -0700, drdave <drd...@ng.netgate.net>
wrote:

>> The kid who played the bike-riding Italian-imitating Dave character in
>> the late Steven Tesich's movie "Breaking Away"... anyone know what he's
>> doing now? He was in an Altman movie ("A Wedding") and that was all I
>> ever saw of him.

In addition to all the films he is in which are listed in another very
informative post by someone else...he is constantly seen in
guest-starring roles on T.V. in various dramatic series (a week or so
ago on UPN's THE SENTENIAL playing a demented killer --- a role he
frequently takes).
He also had an ongoing role as a gay high school teacher on a series
several years ago (was it LIFE GOES ON? No, it was something else but
memory fails Maybe somebody else can clarify this).

Rick Rashid

David Migicovsky

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Jul 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/17/96
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In article <31ec57d8....@news.interlog.com>, di...@interlog.com (Sabine the Diva Chick) wrote:
>As the Wunderbunnies munched my email, Jonah13 mentioned:
>
>>What?! I'm 9" when soft and 12.5" when hard, so that sort of deflates
>>your "shower not grower" theory...
>
>nothing against you, jonah, as i've never to my knowledge seen
>your penis and have no reason whatsoever to question your
>veracity, but:
>
>are all of you guys measuring from your asshole, or what?
>
>i've seen a veritable cornucopia of penii in my time, from the
>sublime to the ridiculous, but why is it that no one EVER seems
>to say that they're 4'' soft and 7'' hard? this must be a guy
>thing, as everyone i've ever met with penis envy has been male.
>
>definitely against my better judgment i'll add, "mama always told
>me, only white boys measure."
>

OK, I'll say it. Jonah is 4" soft and 7" hard. On a good day.


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DBJ

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In <4sgpbf$n...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> net...@aol.com (Netnom) writes:
>
>man, this TS story makes celebhood seem like a raw deal. you can't take a
>leak in privacy and god help you if you need to do something noisier.
>
>i remember a documentary about teh Queen that noted one of the most
>asked questions about her when she's going to make an appearance is "what
>shd we do if she has to go?" and the answer from the palace is....she
>never does, in public places. apparently she was trained from childhood
>to have amazing ....fortitude. (and she must not drink much of that good
>english tea!)
>
>Iane Morgan

It must really be the pits to even be AFRAID of the fact that you may
have to at some time, God FORBID, perform a natural bodily function.
I have to agree with you that celebrity affecting you personal "needs"
is a little intimidating.

Beverly

Zorak

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Jul 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/17/96
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Perhaps I can add to this discussion...

pHd wrote:

> Male Urinal Culture is an odd thing.

<edit of proof of above statement>

> Bathroom stalls are another story. Upon entering a restroom to do #2,
> most guys would turn around and leave even if only one of the stalls were
> occupied. This is sort of an unspoken rule of etiquette in men's rooms.

Really? I don't understand why another guy in a stall prompts men to
leave the restroom and put off doing their business. Theoretically the
room is all men and you have at least your visual privacy (inside a
stall). And when ya gotta go, ya gotta go.

Maybe it's just one of those weird, inexplainable "guy" things.

> Others, however, don't seem to mind about sharing this space with another
> guy. They'll take another stall [hopefully leaving at least one empty
> stall in between them and the other guy(s)] and do their business.

I've noticed guys behave like that in movie theaters also. (No, they
don't do their business on the seats.)

What I mean is if two male friends go to the movies together and there
are extra seats available, more often than not they'll put an empty seat
between the two of them. It's like the men (and it's always straight
men) are afraid that people would think they're on a date.

Now I would think that it's better to give people the impression that I
was on a date regardless of the other's gender than to show off to one
and all how insecure I am.

Maybe it's another one of those weird, inexplainable "guy" things.

Note that you *never* see women doing this silly movie seat thing.

> I've always wondered how women act in restrooms. Perhaps you or another
> ASG women could fill me in.

Unless someone is pee-shy (or #2-shy), women are pretty cool about the
whole bathroom thing. I think it's because we're more comfortable with
our bodily functions.

Well, women are cool in this regard except for one thing -- cleaning off
the toilet seat. But that's a whole other thread.

- Kathy, ASGTPR #79, probably writing more than everyone wanted to read
right now

Raymond Suke Flournoy

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Jul 18, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/18/96
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In article <31EDA1...@ix.netcom.com>, Zorak <kath...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>pHd wrote:
>
>> Bathroom stalls are another story. Upon entering a restroom to do #2,
>> most guys would turn around and leave even if only one of the stalls were
>> occupied. This is sort of an unspoken rule of etiquette in men's rooms.
>
>Really? I don't understand why another guy in a stall prompts men to
>leave the restroom and put off doing their business. Theoretically the
>room is all men and you have at least your visual privacy (inside a
>stall). And when ya gotta go, ya gotta go.
>
>Maybe it's just one of those weird, inexplainable "guy" things.

Well, I'm a guy, and I have a guy thing (or is that not what you
meant?), but I've never done the above, and actually have never heard
of anyone doing that. Maybe it's a regional behavior?

On the other hand, I definitely do the following...

>What I mean is if two male friends go to the movies together and there
>are extra seats available, more often than not they'll put an empty seat
>between the two of them. It's like the men (and it's always straight
>men) are afraid that people would think they're on a date.
>
>Now I would think that it's better to give people the impression that I
>was on a date regardless of the other's gender than to show off to one
>and all how insecure I am.

For me this has nothing to do with insecurity, and has everything to
do with wanting the whole darn armrest to myself. I'd rather be
thought dateless than to play elbow-hockey all evening long.

And just so this response isn't totally off-topic:

***** ASG content *****

I met Tony Kushner in a men's room in Laguardia. Actually, I'm not
100% sure it was him, but it sure looked like him and he was wearing a
jacket from the La Jolla Playhouse (where I believe one of his plays
was developed). Anyway, he was completely confounded by the automatic
faucet, slapping and pushing on anything that vaguely resembled a
button or knob. He seemed pretty hyper; it was almost comical. I
showed him how to activate the light sensor and he thanked me. Then
he started having trouble trying to start the hand dryer, but he got
the trick before I had to intervene again.


--Raymond Flournoy
======================================================================
flou...@cs.stanford.edu "For reasons I cannot explain
Computer Science Dept. There's some part of me wants to see
Stanford University, CA Graceland" -- P. Simon


Frank M. Miller

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Jul 18, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/18/96
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In article <31ecec19...@news.interport.net>, r...@rr.com (Rick Rashid) wrote:

=On Tue, 16 Jul 1996 22:09:57 -0700, drdave <drd...@ng.netgate.net>
=wrote:
=
=>> The kid who played the bike-riding Italian-imitating Dave character in
=>> the late Steven Tesich's movie "Breaking Away"... anyone know what he's
=>> doing now? He was in an Altman movie ("A Wedding") and that was all I
=>> ever saw of him.
=
=In addition to all the films he is in which are listed in another very
=informative post by someone else...he is constantly seen in
=guest-starring roles on T.V. in various dramatic series (a week or so
=ago on UPN's THE SENTENIAL playing a demented killer --- a role he
=frequently takes).
=He also had an ongoing role as a gay high school teacher on a series
=several years ago (was it LIFE GOES ON? No, it was something else but
=memory fails Maybe somebody else can clarify this).
=
If you're talking Dennis Christopher, I can't find a mention of him in
either of my TV series guides, but that don't mean he wasn't at least a
few times. He also played a gay teacher in the third film on the
collection "Boy's Life." I believe it was called "A Night at the Disco"
or "Disco Days," something like that. And he played one of Eric
Roberts's straight friends in "It's My Party."

And on the gossip front: a friend of mine who lives in West Hollywood
reports being cruised by Mr. Christopher at the gym.

/----------------------------------------------------------------------\
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| frn...@mindspring.com | "I saw something nasty in the |
| Atlanta, Georgia | woodshed." |
\_____________________ |________________________/

+Cicero+

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mrit...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael S Ritchie) writes:

>.... A growing number of jerks don't even
>bother to lift the toilet seat in the stall to take a piss and
>I wind up having to clean it up.

Many guys don't want to *touch* the toilet seat to lift it up.
"Yo, Man, some guy had his ass on there...I ain't touchin' it!"

Unfortunately, all too often, no one has bothered to clean it in the
first place. I've noticed here that the only immaculately clean men's
room is the one that the custodial staff/supervisor uses.


--
+Cicero+
______________________________________________________________
1cc = 12dd

Michael S Ritchie

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Jul 18, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/18/96
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In article <31EBBD...@mitretek.org>,

Sherrill C.J. Edwards <sedw...@mitretek.org> wrote:
>Christopher John Markle wrote:
>>
>> lst...@198.137.231.14 (Leslie Strom) writes:
>>
>> >The kid who played the bike-riding Italian-imitating Dave character in
>> >the late Steven Tesich's movie "Breaking Away"... anyone know what he's
>> >doing now? He was in an Altman movie ("A Wedding") and that was all I
>> >ever saw of him.

>>
>> I think his name is Dennis Christopher.
>> [...]

>> Check out the movie "California Dreamin'" for grade-A
>> cheese (that's a compliment).
>
>Wasn't he also in "Chariots of Fire" as the not-so-nice American
>competitor (not Brad Davis' Dutch Schultz, but the other one.)

He was also in a creepy little movie called "Fade to Black," as
a movie-obsessed guy who meets up with a Marily Monroe look-alike.
It's been a while since I've seen it, but I'm pretty sure madness
and murder follow. I definitely remember it was creepy.

--M.

MSJOE

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He was also in "It" the TV movie available on video. Pretty good. Check
it out.

Michael S Ritchie

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In article <31EDA1...@ix.netcom.com>, Zorak <kath...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>pHd wrote:
>
>> Male Urinal Culture is an odd thing.
> [...]

>> Bathroom stalls are another story. Upon entering a restroom to do #2,
>> most guys would turn around and leave even if only one of the stalls were
>> occupied. This is sort of an unspoken rule of etiquette in men's rooms.
>
>Really? I don't understand why another guy in a stall prompts men to
>leave the restroom and put off doing their business. Theoretically the
>room is all men and you have at least your visual privacy (inside a
>stall). And when ya gotta go, ya gotta go.

I agree. As a guy who almost never uses urinals (and therefore almost
always uses stalls), I've never noticed guys abstaining from using
a stall if the one next to it is occupied. True, if there is a choice,
most guys will put at least one stall between them and the other guy,
but I've never noticed guys leaving completely if the only free stall
is next to an occupied one. Though I *have* noticed this behavior at
urinals.

>I've noticed guys behave like that in movie theaters also. (No, they
>don't do their business on the seats.)
>

>What I mean is if two male friends go to the movies together and there
>are extra seats available, more often than not they'll put an empty seat
>between the two of them. It's like the men (and it's always straight
>men) are afraid that people would think they're on a date.

Isn't this incredibly stupid? I remember seeing Billy Jack in
high school with four other guys and was shocked when they insisted
we all sit one seat apart. The next time it happened, I said,
either we sit together or I sit several rows away all alone. They
gave in, and no one thought the five of us were on a date.

I *have* noticed that if two guys are together at a movie on a Friday
or Saturday night, they are most likely "on a date."

>Unless someone is pee-shy (or #2-shy), women are pretty cool about the
>whole bathroom thing. I think it's because we're more comfortable with
>our bodily functions.
>
>Well, women are cool in this regard except for one thing -- cleaning off
>the toilet seat. But that's a whole other thread.

Guys don't do this, either. A growing number of jerks don't even


bother to lift the toilet seat in the stall to take a piss and
I wind up having to clean it up.

--M.

*NaNcY*

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On Wed, 17 Jul 96 11:32:25 GMT, dmigicov@_interlog.com (David Migicovsky)
wrote:

>In article <31ec57d8....@news.interlog.com>, di...@interlog.com (Sabine the Diva Chick) wrote:
>>
>>are all of you guys measuring from your asshole, or what?
>>
>>i've seen a veritable cornucopia of penii in my time, from the
>>sublime to the ridiculous, but why is it that no one EVER seems
>>to say that they're 4'' soft and 7'' hard? this must be a guy
>>thing, as everyone i've ever met with penis envy has been male.
>>
>>definitely against my better judgment i'll add, "mama always told
>>me, only white boys measure."
>>
>
>OK, I'll say it. Jonah is 4" soft and 7" hard. On a good day.

David, you missed the point of SDC's comment.......so just what are you
measurement? <hee hee>

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DBJ

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In <4slqoe$8...@fermat.rutgers.edu> cic...@fermat.rutgers.edu (+Cicero+) writes:

>mrit...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael S Ritchie) writes:
>

> >.... A growing number of jerks don't even


> >bother to lift the toilet seat in the stall to take a piss and
> >I wind up having to clean it up.
>

>Many guys don't want to *touch* the toilet seat to lift it up.
>"Yo, Man, some guy had his ass on there...I ain't touchin' it!"


Well, I've gotten very talented at using my foot. When I use the
ladies room and finish, I always put my foot on the toilet handle
and flush it that way (though I almost lost a sandal doing that once).

It wouldn't take that much more "talent" to use your foot to lift and
lower the toilet seat. It's not like it's buttoned down or anything.

Beverly

Elaine 'beano' Leffler

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Zorak wrote:

> What I mean is if two male friends go to the movies together and there
> are extra seats available, more often than not they'll put an empty seat
> between the two of them. It's like the men (and it's always straight
> men) are afraid that people would think they're on a date.

this is popularly known (in MY circles, at least) as 'the "i'm not
a fag" seat'. cracks me up every time. you can usually predict
which sets of guys will arrange themselves in "i'm not a fag"
formation, gives you something to do before the flick starts.

what REALLY entertains me is seeing straight guys try to sit
in "i'm not a fag" formation while riding two-up on a motorcycle.
the driver scoots waaaaaaaaaaay up on the seat, jamming his
privates into the gas tank, to get as far away as possible
from the other guy's crotch. the passenger sits ramrod-straight
on the pillion (making it really tough for the rider to steer
the bike properly), and scoots waaaaaaay back, hanging on the
rear grab-rail (if the bike has one), and doing everything
possible to avoid relaxing into a 'spooning' position with
the driver. i'm surprised more of these passengers don't
just get dumped off the back under hard acceleration...

> > I've always wondered how women act in restrooms. Perhaps you or another
> > ASG women could fill me in.

well, you KNOW we always 'go' in groups, mainly so we can talk
about any men that are present, as soon as we're out of earshot.
there are additional practical reasons, though - i mean, it's
HARD to back-comb *and* wield the aqua-net can at the same time.
s'what girlfriends are for...

> Well, women are cool in this regard except for one thing -- cleaning off
> the toilet seat. But that's a whole other thread.

well, actually, i have some documentation here about how both
men *and* women act in restrooms, at least at the company my
friend works for. she's an HR generalist, and recently forwarded
the attached message to me, to underscore how grateful she is
that she pursued a career in HR:

**So, allow me to share some of today's highlights with you;
**
**2) Someone has been masturbating in the handicap stall in the
**bldg 5 men's restroom; this came to our attention because
**another employee slipped [in it] and contacted the facilities
**manager.
**
**3) Apparently, in some Asian cultures they do not practice
**sitting on toilet seats - rather they stand when using the
**restroom; shoe scuff marks and urine have been discovered
**every day this week in the bldg 2 women's restroom.

always glad to, you know, shed LIGHT on this kinda stuff,

elef

--
elaine 'beano' leffler cisco systems, inc.
el...@cisco.com 408) 526-6932

Christopher John Markle

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drdave <drd...@ng.netgate.net> writes:

>> The kid who played the bike-riding Italian-imitating Dave character in
>> the late Steven Tesich's movie "Breaking Away"... anyone know what he's
>> doing now?

>Dennis Christopher has been in a number of movies, but probably nothing
>you've seen (or heard of).

>1.Silencers, The (1996) .... Comdor

.
.
.
<very nice filmography snipped, reluctantly>

>dr. "wondering if I brought down the entire Internet Movie Data Base by
>publishing the address here" dave

say, there were a couple of things I wanted to know....


> Why is it that some days even music videos challenge
> my attention span......and long term memory?

my entire brain is short-term memory, I prefer to think of
it as cache :)

DBJ

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In <4smuq4$6...@mari.onr.com> kir...@onr.com (Jeff Kirk) writes:

>
>In article <4smf3o$b...@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com>, dbj...@ix.netcom.com
>says...


>>
>>Well, I've gotten very talented at using my foot. When I use the
>>ladies room and finish, I always put my foot on the toilet handle
>>and flush it that way (though I almost lost a sandal doing that once).
>

>Wouldn't it just be easier to wash your hands afterwards?
>
>Jeff

Hey man, don't try to deprive me of my little quirks!! ;^)

Naw, I have this thing about touching things in a public restroom.
Don't know why, they just seem so, so . . . unclean.

I won't even let my butt touch the dreaded seat. Flush with foot.
Wash hands. Then get the F OUT OF THERE!!

I heard this funny comedic take-off once on public restrooms titled
The Devil's Bathroom. I can't remember it well enough to retell it,
but is was so appropriate!!

Beverly (whose hang-up probably isn't as weird as most peoples)


Michael S Ritchie

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In article <4smvdp$6...@mari.onr.com>, Jeff Kirk <kir...@onr.com> wrote:
>In article <31EE87...@cisco.com>, el...@cisco.com says...

>>
>>this is popularly known (in MY circles, at least) as 'the "i'm not
>>a fag" seat'. cracks me up every time. you can usually predict
>>which sets of guys will arrange themselves in "i'm not a fag"
>>formation, gives you something to do before the flick starts.
>
>What's the big deal in doing this? I do it all the time when going to
>a movie with male or female friends...only because I want to have two full
>armrests to lean on!

Yeah, right. You and your friends can't negoiate arm space?
I at least hope you're not among those jerks who sit a seat apart
then yell comments to each other all through the movie. Because,
you see, I have to kill those people...

--M.

*NaNcY*

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On 17 Jul 1996 16:04:15 GMT, pdelg...@pbs.org (pHd) wrote:

>In article <4sgpbf$n...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, net...@aol.com (Netnom) wrote:
>
>> man, this TS story makes celebhood seem like a raw deal. you can't take a
>> leak in privacy and god help you if you need to do something noisier.
>

>> Iane Morgan


>
>Male Urinal Culture is an odd thing.
>

>Some guys are terrified at the mere notion that the guy standing next to
>him at the urinal might think he's sneaking a peak at his weenie. These
>guys stare nervously and stiffly at the wall before them and lean as close
>as possible into the urinal.
>
>Other guys, shall we say the more attention-seeking sorts, seem to want to
>attract looks. They stand several inches back from the urinal, so that
>just about anyone in the whole restroom would have to try really hard not
>to notice his hose. These types are also more likely to strike up a
>conversation with the guy standing next to him, or even someone waiting
>and/or standing behind him. Don't be surprised, either, if these guys
>take a step or two back after they shake themselves in order to put it all
>back and zip it all up. I guess they _really_ want the world to see them.


>
>Bathroom stalls are another story. Upon entering a restroom to do #2,
>most guys would turn around and leave even if only one of the stalls were
>occupied. This is sort of an unspoken rule of etiquette in men's rooms.

>Others, however, don't seem to mind about sharing this space with another
>guy. They'll take another stall [hopefully leaving at least one empty

>stall in between them and the other guy(s)] and do their business. Let's
>just say these types tend not to be so hung up about certain sounds and
>bodily functions as the average guy.
>
>Of course, some grey areas exist. Some guys might be private about
>certain restroom functions and more open about others.
>
>Perhaps Tom Selleck is more of an exhibitionist in a restroom setting and
>welcomed the attention. Maybe he was in the restroom for reasons other
>than just using the facilities. In any case, I can say that my source for
>this story probably falls into the attention-seeking category (although he
>is straight), so he's at least partly responsible to what may seem to some
>a breach of privacy.


>
>I've always wondered how women act in restrooms. Perhaps you or another
>ASG women could fill me in.


Paul, I think I know just a little more about life in a male restroom than
I want to know! ;-) As for women, well we tend to be pretty personal about
our "functions" but more often than not I've found myself in some hilarious
conversations with unknown women.....complete with a lot laughing.

Jeff Kirk

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In article <31EE87...@cisco.com>, el...@cisco.com says...
>
>Zorak wrote:
>
>> What I mean is if two male friends go to the movies together and there
>> are extra seats available, more often than not they'll put an empty seat
>> between the two of them. It's like the men (and it's always straight
>> men) are afraid that people would think they're on a date.
>
>this is popularly known (in MY circles, at least) as 'the "i'm not
>a fag" seat'. cracks me up every time. you can usually predict
>which sets of guys will arrange themselves in "i'm not a fag"
>formation, gives you something to do before the flick starts.

What's the big deal in doing this? I do it all the time when going to
a movie with male or female friends...only because I want to have two full
armrests to lean on!

Jeff
---------------------------------------------
My home page is back up!!!
The new URL is http://www.onr.com/user/kirker/me.htm


lisa f. drake

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In article <pdelgrosso-17...@pbs10407.pbs.org>,
pdelg...@pbs.org (pHd) wrote:

>I've always wondered how women act in restrooms. Perhaps you or another
>ASG women could fill me in.

We never actually get in the restrooms. We just stand in line for a REALLY
long time...


Lisa
--
************
"I don't know who listens to the records anyway. I don't really care what they think.
'Cause I know w

Michael S Ritchie

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In article <jimbob-1907...@ts1-sj-21.mis.ca>,
Robert Matthews <jim...@mis.ca> wrote:
>
> Jeez Louise! It's not an anti-dating device at all. The whole
>seat-in-the-middle thing is all about territoriality.
>
> If two guys sit side by side, they're going to have to fight over the
>armrest between them, and nobody wants that. So if they put a seat between
>them, then each of them gets two armrests, which is the way it's supposed
>to be. No tussling for territory; very amicable.

I still don't buy it. If we can't even negotiate arm space with friends,
how the hell can we hope for an end to war?

> I *never* sit right next to someone at a movie theatre if I can
>possibly help it, because if I don't get two armrests, I can't concentrate
>on the movie because I'm not properly comfortable.

I try not to sit next to strangers, I admit, but I never put an empty
seat between me and a friend/lover/relative.

--M.

Andrew

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Zorak <kath...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>What I mean is if two male friends go to the movies together and there

>are extra seats available, more often than not they'll put an empty seat

>between the two of them. It's like the men (and it's always straight
>men) are afraid that people would think they're on a date.

There's a term for this....called homophobia. I guess you could say
its an unfortunate part of the human psyche.

Andrew


Zorak

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Robert Matthews wrote:
>
> In article <31EDA1...@ix.netcom.com>, Zorak <kath...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> <No snippage, which is why this is so long, but otherwise it makes no sense>

>
> > Perhaps I can add to this discussion...
> >
> > pHd wrote:
> >
> > > Male Urinal Culture is an odd thing.
> >
> > <edit of proof of above statement>
> >
> > > Bathroom stalls are another story. Upon entering a restroom to do #2,
> > > most guys would turn around and leave even if only one of the stalls were
> > > occupied. This is sort of an unspoken rule of etiquette in men's rooms.
> >
> > Really? I don't understand why another guy in a stall prompts men to
> > leave the restroom and put off doing their business. Theoretically the
> > room is all men and you have at least your visual privacy (inside a
> > stall). And when ya gotta go, ya gotta go.
> >
> > Maybe it's just one of those weird, inexplainable "guy" things.
> >
> > > Others, however, don't seem to mind about sharing this space with another
> > > guy. They'll take another stall [hopefully leaving at least one empty
> > > stall in between them and the other guy(s)] and do their business.
> >
> > I've noticed guys behave like that in movie theaters also. (No, they
> > don't do their business on the seats.)
> >
> > What I mean is if two male friends go to the movies together and there
> > are extra seats available, more often than not they'll put an empty seat
> > between the two of them. It's like the men (and it's always straight
> > men) are afraid that people would think they're on a date.
> >
> > Now I would think that it's better to give people the impression that I
> > was on a date regardless of the other's gender than to show off to one
> > and all how insecure I am.
> >
> > Maybe it's another one of those weird, inexplainable "guy" things.
> >
> > Note that you *never* see women doing this silly movie seat thing.
>
> Jeez Louise! It's not an anti-dating device at all. The whole
> seat-in-the-middle thing is all about territoriality.
>
> If two guys sit side by side, they're going to have to fight over the
> armrest between them, and nobody wants that. So if they put a seat between
> them, then each of them gets two armrests, which is the way it's supposed
> to be. No tussling for territory; very amicable.

Unfortunately, it seems that in movie theaters two shared halves of an
armrest look like the way it's supposed to be. (Otherwise there wouldn't
be only one armrest between seats, blah, blah, blah....)

In any case, only men would fight over something so insignificant as an
armrest. ;)

>
> Plus, they have a place to put their jackets and maybe knapsacks and
> any stuff they may have bought en route. Frankly, if women don't do this
> seat-between thing, then the more fool they, because they also have
> purses--what do they do, sit on them? Put them on the floor? Hang them
> around their necks?

I put my purse on my lap. Then I lean my arms on it since I can't fit
onto the armrest since some guy has taken up the whole thing. I also
lean on my coat (if I have one) and any shopping bags I also lean on or
place on the floor and grasp between my knees.

It can get a bit crowded, but I like to sit next to my friends at the
movies regardless of gender. To each his/her own.

> I *never* sit right next to someone at a movie theatre if I can
> possibly help it, because if I don't get two armrests, I can't concentrate

> on the movie because I'm not properly comfortable. Smaller and smaller
> multiplexes with tinier seats and narrower armrests are really ruining the
> whole movie experience.

I agree that an uncomfortable seat can ruin even a great movie.
Strangely, here in NYC, I see the trend moving toward larger and more
comfortable movie seats -- replete with cup holders and more than enough
legroom.

If they could only do the same with taxis.

- Kathy, ASGTPR #79, who had no idea what can of worms she was going to
open with her first post

Zorak

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Jeff Kirk wrote:
>
> In article <31EE87...@cisco.com>, el...@cisco.com says...
> >
> >Zorak wrote:
> >
> >> What I mean is if two male friends go to the movies together and there
> >> are extra seats available, more often than not they'll put an empty seat
> >> between the two of them. It's like the men (and it's always straight
> >> men) are afraid that people would think they're on a date.
> >
> >this is popularly known (in MY circles, at least) as 'the "i'm not
> >a fag" seat'. cracks me up every time. you can usually predict
> >which sets of guys will arrange themselves in "i'm not a fag"
> >formation, gives you something to do before the flick starts.
>
> What's the big deal in doing this? I do it all the time when going to
> a movie with male or female friends...only because I want to have two full
> armrests to lean on!

Maybe I should have elaborated initially -- the gentlemen of which I
spoke also lean waaaaaay away from each other in their seats, speak to
each other only in grunts (unless they're checking out the babes), and
high-five after big on-screen explosions.

- Kathy, ASGTPR #79, who also appreciates having two armrests along with
a soda cup holder and plenty of leg room

Daphne Halderman

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Zorak <kath...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:


>I agree that an uncomfortable seat can ruin even a great movie.
>Strangely, here in NYC, I see the trend moving toward larger and more
>comfortable movie seats -- replete with cup holders and more than enough
>legroom.

>If they could only do the same with taxis.

Once upon a time, there was just such a taxi. It roamed the urban
wilds in great herds and went by the name *Checker Cab*.
(I don't remember it having cup holders, but it had leg and head room
galore.)

'tis progress?
daf


Dezbot

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what i don't understand about women sometimes is why, when i'm the only
person in a large restroom with banks of stalls, the next woman who comes
in sits in the stall right *next* to mine? since when has #1 & 2 become a
group activity? i know i can't expect privacy in a public restroom, but
c'mon...there are 10 other empty stalls!

dez
pee-shy in ASGTPR #60 :}
"my back teeth are floating..." --Cheech (or was it Chong?) heh heh


"and you will know my name is the Lord when i lay my vengeance upon
thee!"--Jules in _Pulp Fiction_

a pistol-hot cup of Dez....

Lee Weiser

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<sniff> <images of tears welling up in my eyes> I remember the checker cabs.
The jumpseats, the leg room, the headroom, space enough to put large bags in
during the year-end holidays or to fit 5 people in back, the feeling that you
were in a tank. Ah, well, at least, we have the memories.

--Lee

Jim S

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Michael S Ritchie wrote:

> >> I think his name is Dennis Christopher.

> He was also in a creepy little movie called "Fade to Black," as


> a movie-obsessed guy who meets up with a Marily Monroe look-alike.
> It's been a while since I've seen it, but I'm pretty sure madness
> and murder follow. I definitely remember it was creepy.

Creepy? I remember it as one of the worst performances I have ever seen.
This movie is laughably bad, and probably hastened Dennis Christopher's
descent into "B" movie heaven after the promise of Breaking Away.
BTW, in the film he is obsessed with classic monster movies, and dresses
up as Dracula, Frankenstein's monster, etc and stalks his enemies.
Sound horrible? It's worse.

--

Jim S. <ji...@inlink.com>

"I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous."
- Crow T. Robot

darkstar

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: >I've always wondered how women act in restrooms. Perhaps you or another

: >ASG women could fill me in.

Primp while pretending to be nonchalant. When someone comes in and is
about to catch you primping, suddenly concentrate on washing your hands or
fixing your stockings. Say, "Oh I'm a mess" while secretly finding the
flaws in the NEXT woman and trying to find some feature to compare
yourself favorably. I don't do these thing, I could care less about
looks, I have much better things to do blah blah blah :-)

Centre of the Known Universe

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mrit...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael S Ritchie) wrote:

>In article <4smvdp$6...@mari.onr.com>, Jeff Kirk <kir...@onr.com> wrote:
>>In article <31EE87...@cisco.com>, el...@cisco.com says...

>>>this is popularly known (in MY circles, at least) as 'the "i'm not
>>>a fag" seat'. cracks me up every time. you can usually predict
>>>which sets of guys will arrange themselves in "i'm not a fag"
>>>formation, gives you something to do before the flick starts.
>>
>>What's the big deal in doing this? I do it all the time when going to
>>a movie with male or female friends...only because I want to have two full
>>armrests to lean on!

>Yeah, right. You and your friends can't negoiate arm space?


>I at least hope you're not among those jerks who sit a seat apart
>then yell comments to each other all through the movie. Because,
>you see, I have to kill those people...

>--M.

Darling,

May I be so bold as to offer my sinister assistance the next time
you're on a spree?

In Agreement, And Out Of Rehab...
LCM

Centre of the Known Universe


"A ray of sunshine amidst all this melanoma."
LCM - Mid-Bolly-Stoli, 1996
ASGTRP#01 & TEMPORARY Welcome Wagoneer


Reality's Bitch

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: Dezbot (dez...@aol.com) wrote: what i don't understand about women

: sometimes is why, when i'm the only person in a large restroom with banks
: of stalls, the next woman who comes in sits in the stall right *next* to
: mine?

Ummmm...you're Simply Irresistible???

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Bob Stern

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On Jul 19, 1996 09:53:41 in article <Re: restroom behavior (was:T Selleck's

size)>, 'ldr...@pobox.com (lisa f. drake)' wrote:

>In article <pdelgrosso-17...@pbs10407.pbs.org>,
>pdelg...@pbs.org (pHd) wrote:
>
>>I've always wondered how women act in restrooms. Perhaps you or another
>>ASG women could fill me in.
>
>We never actually get in the restrooms. We just stand in line for a
REALLY
>long time...
>
>Lisa
>--
>************
My sister was on a ladies room line with Eva Marie Saint. They had a
conversation about which theaters have the worst ladies rooms.
Marian (Mrs. Stern)
rst...@pipeline.com

Reality's Bitch

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Jul 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/21/96
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: thl...@neosoft.com wrote: Once upon a time, there was just such a taxi.
: It roamed the urban wilds in great herds and went by the name *Checker
: Cab*. (I don't remember it having cup holders, but it had leg and head
: room galore.)

I have some friends who bought and restored a couple o' them babies...*such*
great cars, and back seats big enough for...well...um...*you* know...

Larry Lloyd

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..and then there was the time Tallullah was in a public washroom and
asked the lady in the next stall if she had any spare toilet paper.
The response was negative. " In that case dahling, do you have two
fives for a ten?"

-Larry Lloyd


Michael S Ritchie

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Jul 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/21/96
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In article <4ssepk$4...@thor.atcon.com>,

Centre of the Known Universe <ccro...@atcon.com@MAIL.ATCON.COM> wrote:
>mrit...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael S Ritchie) wrote:
>
>>Yeah, right. You and your friends can't negoiate arm space?
>>I at least hope you're not among those jerks who sit a seat apart
>>then yell comments to each other all through the movie. Because,
>>you see, I have to kill those people...
>
>Darling,
>
>May I be so bold as to offer my sinister assistance the next time
>you're on a spree?
>
>In Agreement, And Out Of Rehab...
>LCM

Oh, let's! I'll bring the popcorn with the huge shards of glass
buried deep in the carton, and you can bring the poison darts
hidden in the packages of Twizzlers.

--M.

Robert Matthews

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Jul 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/21/96
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In article <4spfd1$k...@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,

mrit...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael S Ritchie) wrote:

> In article <jimbob-1907...@ts1-sj-21.mis.ca>,
> Robert Matthews <jim...@mis.ca> wrote:
> >

> > Jeez Louise! It's not an anti-dating device at all. The whole
> >seat-in-the-middle thing is all about territoriality.
> >
> > If two guys sit side by side, they're going to have to fight over the
> >armrest between them, and nobody wants that. So if they put a seat between
> >them, then each of them gets two armrests, which is the way it's supposed
> >to be. No tussling for territory; very amicable.
>

> I still don't buy it. If we can't even negotiate arm space with friends,
> how the hell can we hope for an end to war?

Michael, what's to negotiate? There is one very slender armrest
between each pair of seats, so either you get both armrests and the people
on either side of you get at most one, or you have to make do with having
only one arm supported while the other is in your lap or something. It's
not comfortable, and negotiating won't make it any more so. I like to have
two armrests, so I make sure that 1) I always take an aisle seat, and 2)
nobody's on the other side of me. (The aisle seat is also to make sure
that when I have to use the washroom, I don't have to step over anyone to
do so. I also have an aisle seat in theatres and airplanes, always.)

> > I *never* sit right next to someone at a movie theatre if I can
> >possibly help it, because if I don't get two armrests, I can't concentrate
> >on the movie because I'm not properly comfortable.
>

> I try not to sit next to strangers, I admit, but I never put an empty
> seat between me and a friend/lover/relative.

Even when I go the movies with my partner (nine years this October,
throw us a cyberparty), we have a seat between us. Armrests for everyone,
and there's a place to stow our stuff--very civilized, I think.

But if you really want to fuck up some stranger, here's a fun thing
to do, if you have the guts--I don't. Make sure you go to the movies
early, and when you enter the movie theatre and there are only two or
three people there, sit next to someone. Right smack next to them, with no
seats in between. Don't look at them or talk to them (or yourself), just
sit down like you normally would. It will totally ruin their day.

Robert Matthews
--
jim...@mis.ca

Really Useful Information, Part 87:

"A drop of cassia oil in a mixture of lemon and limeade
produces a taste resembling Coca-Cola."
--Edwin T. Morris, "Fragrance"

DBJ

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Jul 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/21/96
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Boy, talk about having "money to burn"!!

So, yet another reason I can see to make sure you always have
spare cash.

I guess there ARE some instances when a credit card just won't do the
trick. ;^)

Beverly

MParooTL

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Jul 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/21/96
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In article <4snrki$d...@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,

mrit...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael S Ritchie) writes:

>Yeah, right. You and your friends can't negoiate arm space?
>I at least hope you're not among those jerks who sit a seat apart
>then yell comments to each other all through the movie. Because,
>you see, I have to kill those people...

If I'm ever on your jury, I vote not guilty due to justifiable homicide.

***Desiree


Michael S Ritchie

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Jul 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/22/96
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In article <jimbob-2107...@ts1-sj-10.mis.ca>,

Robert Matthews <jim...@mis.ca> wrote:
>
> Michael, what's to negotiate? There is one very slender armrest
>between each pair of seats, so either you get both armrests and the people
>on either side of you get at most one, or you have to make do with having
>only one arm supported while the other is in your lap or something.

Well, I (like most other human beings, judging from my experience at
movie theaters) usually wind up with my elbow resting on the first
half of the armrest, and my friend/partner/relative's elbow resting
on the lower half of the armrest. Or vice versa. There are occasionally
bumps or jostles, but so what? Most of the theaters near me are of
relatively recent origin and the armrests are fairly big, so this
"problem" is even less of a problem now then it used to be. The only
time I've ever really had a problem with this is with my mom, who
does tend to take over the armrest. And I wouldn't dare sit a seat
away from my mother!

>I like to have two armrests

I do too, and through "negoiation," I always do, and so does
the person next to me.

--M.

Papaleonardos

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Jul 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/22/96
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In article <31f39c38.5431976@news>, Alan Moorman <al...@skypoint.com> wrote:
>X-No-archive: Yes

>
>>>..and then there was the time Tallullah was in a public washroom and
>>>asked the lady in the next stall if she had any spare toilet paper.
>>>The response was negative. " In that case dahling, do you have two
>>>fives for a ten?"
>>>
>ROTFLMFAO!
>
>Best laugh I've had for a long time!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>(They don't let me out much...)

Not a well-known celeb (actually, probably only known today by Greek-speaking
classical music enthusiasts of the 1940s and '50s), a music critic named Ms.
Spanoudi (I forget her first name, maybe Sophia) once entered a pay-toilet in
Athens. She had terrible gas problems and made quite a lot of noise in the
stall, when the woman seated in the stall next made a crack about the "music"
emanating from Spanoudi's stall; Spanoudi replied, "Well, for 5 drachmas, what
did you expect to hear - Beethoven?"

Chris
(sorry this loses somewhat in translation)

Annie

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Jul 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/22/96
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Sara M. wrote:

> Anyway, haven't gone in years -- I watch A&E and rent anything
> that looks worth the $0.49 at the local cheap rental place.
> -- Sara (who *loves* the "Pause" button)

Have I got a pause button moment for you!! Rent "a room with a view" or
watch it on A&E (it's always on). when the guys are at the swimming
hole, get that button ready! whoo, i needed a cold shower.

Annie
Ps. that's Daniel Day-Lewis in the glasses
--
*++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++*
* Annie: the foremost authority on hotties, X-Files *
* (and Philes), and whatever else crosses her mind *
* E-mail: shi...@dnaco.net *
* Visit my site! http://markspc.dnaco.net/lisa.html-ssi *
*++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++*

Melora Foy

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Jul 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/22/96
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Somebody posted that in the 1980's, after attending an REM show, he
found himself standing next to Michael Stipe at a urinal. He heard
Stipe say, "You sure are cold tonight, little buddy."

Sara M.

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Jul 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/22/96
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Zorak <kath...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>> Plus, they have a place to put their jackets and maybe knapsacks and
>> any stuff they may have bought en route. Frankly, if women don't do this
>> seat-between thing, then the more fool they, because they also have
>> purses--what do they do, sit on them? Put them on the floor? Hang them
>> around their necks?

>I put my purse on my lap. Then I lean my arms on it since I can't fit
>onto the armrest since some guy has taken up the whole thing. I also
>lean on my coat (if I have one) and any shopping bags I also lean on or
>place on the floor and grasp between my knees.

>It can get a bit crowded, but I like to sit next to my friends at the
>movies regardless of gender. To each his/her own.

I always tend to hold my stuff in my lap too. This avoids having to
put it on the floor (which is usually *covered* in cinemuck). Putting
it in the seat next to me isn't an option, since many theaters have
those flip-up seats which are only held down by weights over 50
lbs. -- put your purse on it and, unless it's a *BIG* purse, it will
slide down between the seat and the back of the chair as the
seat folds up, and get stuck in the cinemuck under the seat. :(

ka...@delphi.com

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Jul 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/22/96
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*NaNcY* <nlo...@rt66.com> writes:

>On 19 Jul 1996 03:18:28 GMT, kir...@onr.com (Jeff Kirk) wrote:
>
>>In article <4smf3o$b...@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com>, dbj...@ix.netcom.com
>>says...
>>>
>>>Well, I've gotten very talented at using my foot. When I use the
>>>ladies room and finish, I always put my foot on the toilet handle
>>>and flush it that way (though I almost lost a sandal doing that once).
>>

.

>>Wouldn't it just be easier to wash your hands afterwards?
>>
>Yes, but then one would miss out on the good stretch on gets while flushing
>in this manner! ;-)

.
I do the same thing (push the handle with my foot). There's only so
much soap and water can DO, after all!
,
I never lost a shoe, but I have accidently kicked the toilet seat
and made a huge toilet seat noise, prompting everyone in the
office outside to ponder what that woman could POSSIBLY be doing
in there.
.
kassa (who always alternates legs so as to remain symmetrically
limber)

Yet Another Steve

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Jul 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/23/96
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In article <4slqoe$8...@fermat.rutgers.edu>, cic...@fermat.rutgers.edu
(+Cicero+) wrote:

> mrit...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael S Ritchie) writes:

> >.... A growing number of jerks don't even
> >bother to lift the toilet seat in the stall to take a piss and
> >I wind up having to clean it up.

Wasn't it Ruth Buzzi, late of LAUGH-IN, who said she's spent the last
20 years cleaning the bathrooms in airplanes? Not professionally, but
because she always knows that if she leaves it as messy as she found it
the next person in will tell everyone "Well I was just in the can after
that Ruth Buzzi and she is such a PIG...!!"
>
> Many guys don't want to *touch* the toilet seat to lift it up.
> "Yo, Man, some guy had his ass on there...I ain't touchin' it!"

Not even with the toe of a tennis shoe? It's not like they have to
use their tongues to lift it. (Eeeww! pardon the thought.)

Offtopic But So What Else Is New: Over the weekend I was trapped in a card
store, reading cards, and saw a birthday card to the effect of "Happy Birthday
to a guy who always gets me wet and makes me scream!" Then inside it said
"Hoping this year you'll finally learn to put the toilet seat down."

Steve


ka...@delphi.com

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Jul 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/23/96
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Robert Matthews <jim...@mis.ca> writes:

>between each pair of seats, so either you get both armrests and the people
>on either side of you get at most one, or you have to make do with having
>only one arm supported while the other is in your lap or something. It's
>not comfortable, and negotiating won't make it any more so. I like to have
>two armrests, so I make sure that 1) I always take an aisle seat, and 2)
>nobody's on the other side of me. (The aisle seat is also to make sure
>that when I have to use the washroom, I don't have to step over anyone to

.
ACCCCCKKKKKK! Okay - I don't care if you put a seat between you
and a friend - so long as you don't sit right on top of me,
a total stranger. But WHY DO YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE BATHROOM DURING
A MOVIE???!!
.
Unless you're seeing the 8+ hour SHOAH or something - can't you just
take care of it before the movie starts?
.
And the same thing goes for people who decide 40 minutes
into the movie that they need more snacks.
.
kassa (congrats on your anniversary!)

Lee Weiser

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Jul 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/23/96
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In article <4t2vpa$k...@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mrit...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael S Ritchie) writes:


>In article <RHBMPo...@delphi.com>, <ka...@delphi.com> wrote:
>>
>>ACCCCCKKKKKK! Okay - I don't care if you put a seat between you
>>and a friend - so long as you don't sit right on top of me,
>>a total stranger. But WHY DO YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE BATHROOM DURING
>>A MOVIE???!!

>>Unless you're seeing the 8+ hour SHOAH or something - can't you just
>>take care of it before the movie starts?

>No. I have a weak bladder. I usually have to go at least once
>during an average-length movie, especially if I give in and get
>a Coke. Believe me, it's no more fun for me asking you all to
>let me through than it is for you to move out of the way, which is
>why I try to get aisle seats.

I also take aisle seats (everywhere I go..planes, trains, buses) since some
theatres I've been to don't have the leg room I like. At least with an aisle
seat I can stick my legs out into the aisle once the movie has started. I also
like to be able to leave as the credits are going so I can beat the crowd of
the theatre.

>>And the same thing goes for people who decide 40 minutes
>>into the movie that they need more snacks.

>Well, when the movie sucks (as is the case more and more these days),
>there's not much else to do except go get more Twizzlers to
>play with.

or if you're in a multiplex, you can theatre jump!

--Lee, in a town with a 16-plex, 12-plex, about 5 6-plexes, and god knows how
many other 2 to 4 plexes.

--Lee

dar

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Jul 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/23/96
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Saw this in the paper today ... does anyone think Whoopi reads a.s.g.?

Lavatory Lit: It's a sister act in the women's room but men keep a low
profile in the gent's, according to Whoopi Goldberg. The actress/comedian
told reporters that she's planning a book called "Life Observations" - and
she says there's no better place to start observing than the bathroom.
"Women can sit together quite openly with the stall toilet door open and
talk," she said. "Men go into the bathroom and they look around. If
there's not another man in there they can just stand and let it fly. If
another guy comes in - it stops. They don't look at each other."


dar

--
Will play tennis for food.

ka...@delphi.com

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Jul 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/23/96
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Papaleonardos <cpap...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> writes:

>Not a well-known celeb (actually, probably only known today by Greek-speaking
>classical music enthusiasts of the 1940s and '50s), a music critic named Ms.
>Spanoudi (I forget her first name, maybe Sophia) once entered a pay-toilet in
>Athens. She had terrible gas problems and made quite a lot of noise in the
>stall, when the woman seated in the stall next made a crack about the "music"
>emanating from Spanoudi's stall; Spanoudi replied, "Well, for 5 drachmas, what
>did you expect to hear - Beethoven?"

.
If I had a sig, I think I'd adopt that line - "Well, for 5
drachmas, what did you expect to hear -- Beethoven?"
.
I tend to only remember punch lines, even in English, but my favorite
joke in Spanish is completely lost in translation. Basically, the
punch line is -- "And your mother was a lobster!"
.
Bwahahahaha!
.
kassa

ka...@delphi.com

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Jul 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/23/96
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Annie <shi...@dnaco.net> writes:

>Have I got a pause button moment for you!! Rent "a room with a view" or
>watch it on A&E (it's always on). when the guys are at the swimming
>hole, get that button ready! whoo, i needed a cold shower.
>
>Annie
>Ps. that's Daniel Day-Lewis in the glasses

.
Yeah, but the one you get the best look at is Mr. Beebe! And
Day-Lewis isn't naked in that one. He does hop out
of the tub in the very strange stars and bars movie, which is
mostly worth watching for Harry Dean Stanton and the other
supporting cast of crazies, while the usually divine Laurie
is HORRIBLE. Day-Lewis himself is just barely watchable.
.
Worth taping when it shows on Bravo (fairly often).
.
kassa

Michael S Ritchie

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Jul 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/23/96
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In article <RHBMPo...@delphi.com>, <ka...@delphi.com> wrote:
>
>ACCCCCKKKKKK! Okay - I don't care if you put a seat between you
>and a friend - so long as you don't sit right on top of me,
>a total stranger. But WHY DO YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE BATHROOM DURING
>A MOVIE???!!
>Unless you're seeing the 8+ hour SHOAH or something - can't you just
>take care of it before the movie starts?

No. I have a weak bladder. I usually have to go at least once
during an average-length movie, especially if I give in and get
a Coke. Believe me, it's no more fun for me asking you all to
let me through than it is for you to move out of the way, which is
why I try to get aisle seats.

>And the same thing goes for people who decide 40 minutes


>into the movie that they need more snacks.

Well, when the movie sucks (as is the case more and more these days),
there's not much else to do except go get more Twizzlers to
play with.

--M.

Alexandra

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Jul 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/23/96
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In <4t0v9j$s...@newshound.csrv.uidaho.edu>

So was he talking to his dick, or the guy next to him?

Kisses,
Alexandra

Melora Foy

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Jul 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/23/96
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Alexandra (hilm...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
> mel...@buzzard.csrv.uidaho.edu (Melora Foy) writes:
> >
> >Somebody posted that in the 1980's, after attending an REM show, he
> >found himself standing next to Michael Stipe at a urinal. He heard
> >Stipe say, "You sure are cold tonight, little buddy."

> So was he talking to his dick, or the guy next to him?

I assumed he was talking to his dick. Stranger things have happened.

Melora

Robert Matthews

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Jul 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/23/96
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> In article <4t2vpa$k...@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
mrit...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael S Ritchie) writes:
>
> >In article <RHBMPo...@delphi.com>, <ka...@delphi.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>ACCCCCKKKKKK! Okay - I don't care if you put a seat between you
> >>and a friend - so long as you don't sit right on top of me,
> >>a total stranger. But WHY DO YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE BATHROOM DURING
> >>A MOVIE???!!
> >>Unless you're seeing the 8+ hour SHOAH or something - can't you just
> >>take care of it before the movie starts?
>
> >No. I have a weak bladder. I usually have to go at least once
> >during an average-length movie, especially if I give in and get
> >a Coke. Believe me, it's no more fun for me asking you all to
> >let me through than it is for you to move out of the way, which is
> >why I try to get aisle seats.

Hey, me too! And what's more, when I'm planning to go see a movie, I
deliberately abstain from liquids for a minimum of five hours before the
movie. And then I thoughtfully head to the washroom five minutes before
the curtain's due to rise (so I don't miss any trailers or anything). And
I *still* almost always have to go sometime in the middle of the
movie--and occasionally more than once, if the movie's really long
("Schindler's List" comes to mind).

Not everyone has your iron control, Kassa. So I'll continue to take
the aisle seat, thanks, and I'll try not to make any noise as I leave and
return, if you'll try not insist that everyone conform to your physical
specifications.

Robert Matthews

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Jul 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/24/96
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In article
<frnklin-2407...@user-168-121-138-68.dialup.mindspring.com>,
frn...@mindspring.com (Frank M. Miller) wrote:

> It's very simple: if you need to go to the john in the middle of the film
> or like to run for snack refills sit on the aisle. If you want to talk,
> wait for the film to come out on video and watch it at home, with others
> who don't mind the chatter (I have friends I will not rent films with
> because they refuse to shut up).
>
> When I went to the preview of "Dances with Wolves," one of Atlanta's local
> reviewers (since deceased) waited until the credits were over, then
> stumbled across half a row of people so he could get his popcorn and soft
> drink after the line had left. To make matters worse, he sat through the
> entired movie playing loudly with his straw.

You know, Frank, this actually poses more questions than it answers.

Specifically....

Do you kill him? And if so, how--did you stab him to death with a
plastic soda straw? Stuff him with movie popcorn until his stomach
ruptured? Garrote him with a discarded reel of trailers?

Not that I would have blamed you. I once went to a matinee of "Who
Framed Roger Rabbit", months after the first run, and seated behind me was
an approximately eight-year-old child and his mother; the child didn't
speak a syllable of English, and the entire movie was a nonstop stream of
him asking loudly in Spanish, "Who's that? What did she just say? What's
happening? Why is that baby smoking a cigar?" and her answering him. I
would gladly have dropped a piano on their heads.

darkstar

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Jul 25, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/25/96
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Remember that article in Movieline (I think it was) where Joe Queenan (I
think it was but I am not sure!) purposely went to movies and made noise
(or said he did.) Boy the letters to the editor! I wish I had a pop cork
meter to determine scientifically which issue is more volatile...people
who talk in movies or people who drive slow in the left lane ... always
the most fun thread in rec.autos.driving!!! You would think people would
KNOW by now but do you ever go on a date and to your amazement your date
talks in the movie and you know everyone is looking at you... or for that
matter did you ever accidentally ride with a co-worker say to a work
function and your co-worker signs up to drive the company van and said
co-worker turns out to be one of those that do drive slow all the way in
the left lane. And you are just like dumbfounded cause you thought your
co-worker or date was the last person to not realize these habits are
generally considered justifiable homicide. And it is very obvious that
your date or co-worker has never heard of this.
--
dark...@sky.net
asgtpr #28

ka...@delphi.com

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Jul 25, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/25/96
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Michael S Ritchie <mrit...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> writes:

>>a total stranger. But WHY DO YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE BATHROOM DURING
>>A MOVIE???!!
>>Unless you're seeing the 8+ hour SHOAH or something - can't you just
>>take care of it before the movie starts?
>
>No. I have a weak bladder. I usually have to go at least once
>during an average-length movie, especially if I give in and get
>a Coke. Believe me, it's no more fun for me asking you all to
>let me through than it is for you to move out of the way, which is
>why I try to get aisle seats.

.
Sorry to hear about your condition. I was going to put in a
special dispensation for people who don't feel well - I once
had to leave the theatre and throw up - it was a showing of
Pete's Dragon, actually, and I think I had a better time
in the Ladies' room.
.
So, so long as you sit on the aisle or in the back, that's
fine - it's not so much people crawling over me but just
even seeing someone in front of me or in my
peripheral vision makes me nuts because it @takes me out"
of the story.
.
Which is why I try to go to the early show so I can sit
in the third row all by myself!
.
kassa

Joe Kirkendall

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He's playing famed (and martyred) British scientist Alan Turing in an
L.A. production of "Breaking the Code", the run of which has recently
been extended.

Chris Borg

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: But if you really want to fuck up some stranger, here's a fun thing


: to do, if you have the guts--I don't. Make sure you go to the movies
: early, and when you enter the movie theatre and there are only two or
: three people there, sit next to someone. Right smack next to them, with no
: seats in between. Don't look at them or talk to them (or yourself), just
: sit down like you normally would. It will totally ruin their day.

Someone just did that to me last week. Maybe 7 people in the theatre I
have a row to myself and this dork and frinend or lover sit right next to
me it reaaaaaly pissed me off. I moved one row back.

Yet Another Steve

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In article <4t2vpa$k...@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,

mrit...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael S Ritchie) wrote:

> In article <RHBMPo...@delphi.com>, <ka...@delphi.com> wrote:

>[...] But WHY DO YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE BATHROOM DURING


> >A MOVIE???!!
> >Unless you're seeing the 8+ hour SHOAH or something - can't you just
> >take care of it before the movie starts?
>
> No. I have a weak bladder.

[snip]

Whoops, MAJOR tactical error there kiddo, you *know* that for the next
two weeks all sorts of wags will be tiptoeing up behind you at Whitewalls
and yelling "BOO!" just to test this out.

Steve
who wouldn't dream of doing such a thing, of course


Reality's Bitch @ amazon beast from hell dot com

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> But if you really want to fuck up some stranger, here's a fun thing to
> do, if you have the guts--I don't. Make sure you go to the movies early,
> and when you enter the movie theatre and there are only two or three
> people there, sit next to someone. Right smack next to them, with no seats
> in between. Don't look at them or talk to them (or yourself), just sit
> down like you normally would. It will totally ruin their day.

A friend of mine went to see Night of the Living Dead at a sleazy Market
Street cinema in San Francisco (1979/80?). Guy came in halfway through
the movie, sat down next to my friend...and about five minutes later
grabbed his right hand and bit off a piece of his index finger (down to
the second joint), then ran from the theatre.

I shit thee not.

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If the Good Lord hadn't wanted us to suffer, we'd all be a whole lot happier.

vcz
Born to Opine


Yet Another Steve

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In article <4t2vh4$s...@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com>,
hilm...@ix.netcom.com(Alexandra) wrote:

> mel...@buzzard.csrv.uidaho.edu (Melora Foy) writes:
> >Somebody posted that in the 1980's, after attending an REM show, he
> >found himself standing next to Michael Stipe at a urinal. He heard
> >Stipe say, "You sure are cold tonight, little buddy."
>
> So was he talking to his dick, or the guy next to him?


Presumably the Former, for the benefit of the Latter, lest he should get
the impression that the Former is always so ... withdrawn.

Mere surmise, of course, but unless Stipe de-lurks and posts the truth
here, that's all we have to go on.

Steve
party of the Third part, not involved with any of the above


Michael S Ritchie

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In article <Steve_Hoffmann-...@shoffman.sdd.trw.com>,

Well, it's not *that* weak. It's just that, when I have to go, I
have to go. If they really want to test me, they should sneak
up behind me and say, "Golden shower, anyone?"

--M.

Robert Matthews

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In article <Pine.BSI.3.91.96072...@shell.flinet.com>,

"Reality's Bitch @ amazon beast from hell dot com" <v...@flinet.com> wrote:

> > But if you really want to fuck up some stranger, here's a fun thing to
> > do, if you have the guts--I don't. Make sure you go to the movies early,
> > and when you enter the movie theatre and there are only two or three
> > people there, sit next to someone. Right smack next to them, with no seats
> > in between. Don't look at them or talk to them (or yourself), just sit
> > down like you normally would. It will totally ruin their day.
>
> A friend of mine went to see Night of the Living Dead at a sleazy Market
> Street cinema in San Francisco (1979/80?). Guy came in halfway through
> the movie, sat down next to my friend...and about five minutes later
> grabbed his right hand and bit off a piece of his index finger (down to
> the second joint), then ran from the theatre.

Well, I certainly don't approve of *that*.

I was merely talking about tinkering with the mind of some poor
innocent unsuspecting stranger. Gnawing off their digits was *not* part of
the game plan.

Anyway, what happened next? Did your shocked and horrified friend
chase this insane person? Did he wrench the severed digit from his mouth?
Was it reattached? Enquiring minds want to know!

Reality's Bitch

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: Robert Matthews (jim...@mis.ca) wrote:

:> Reality's Bitch wrote: A friend of mine went to see Night of the Living


:> Dead at a sleazy Market Street cinema in San Francisco (1979/80?). Guy
:> came in halfway through the movie, sat down next to my friend...and about
:> five minutes later grabbed his right hand and bit off a piece of his index
:> finger (down to the second joint), then ran from the theatre.

: Anyway, what happened next? Did your shocked and horrified friend


: chase this insane person? Did he wrench the severed digit from his mouth?
: Was it reattached? Enquiring minds want to know!

He was in a comPLETE state of shock for several minutes. Did not chase the
cannibal, and the theatre sent him to the hospital in a taxi. As the guy
ran off with the rest of his finger, it was never reattached...sad part is,
my friend had been, 'til then, a WONderfully talented musician.

JanetSpncr

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In article <jimbob-2707...@ts1-sj-25.mis.ca>, jim...@mis.ca
(Robert Matthews) writes:

>"Reality's Bitch @ amazon beast from hell dot com" <v...@flinet.com>
wrote:
>
>> > But if you really want to fuck up some stranger, here's a fun thing
to
>> > do, if you have the guts--I don't. Make sure you go to the movies
early,
>> > and when you enter the movie theatre and there are only two or three
>> > people there, sit next to someone. Right smack next to them, with no
>seats
>> > in between. Don't look at them or talk to them (or yourself), just
sit
>> > down like you normally would. It will totally ruin their day.
>>

I've always thought that it might be interesting to walk into an elevator
full of people and not turn around....You know, remain facing at the back
wall with your back to the door, looking at all of the other occupants
nonchalantly. A friend of mine suggested an extraordinary improvement to
that scenario. When you turn around and leave, run to the next floor and
try to board the same elevator. You just enter it, grin and say "I know
you were talking about me...."

I wouldn't do it, but the prospect of undermining some of the protocols
which we observe in public is most fascinating.

Janet

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Slywy

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>I've always thought that it might be interesting to walk into an
elevator
>full of people and not turn around....You know, remain facing at the
back
>wall with your back to the door, looking at all of the other
occupants
>nonchalantly.

I've done this. Yes, they all looked a wee bit unnerved . . . :)

_____________________________________

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That'll alter social standin' . . ."
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Melody Clark

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EvelynR wrote:

> Let's not forget people who take 10 items through the 9 item lane in the
> supermarket, or those who stand in line for 20 minutes and then fumble for
> their checkbooks when they *finally* get to the register with a stupid
> expression on their face as if they just realized that duh...they're gonna
> pay with a check and on top of that they never know what the date is to
> write on the check which holds up the line even more. Another cause for
> justifiable homicide.
>
> Evelyn, feelin' mighty irritable today, so just stay the hell out of my
> way


I have no problem with those things...my own arbitrary irk-inducer are
the people who pull up to the drive-thru lane at the bank, then proceed
to write out their entire deposit slip, etc, with everyone sitting
behind them. Or the people who want McDonalds to remake their entire
hamburger for them alone, with eight cars sitting behind them. On those
rare occasions when I'm forced to do McD's, I always seem to have that
clod sitting in front of me.

EvelynR

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In article <darkstar-250...@ip202.sky.net>, dark...@sky.net
(darkstar) writes:


>Remember that article in Movieline (I think it was) where Joe Queenan (I
>think it was but I am not sure!) purposely went to movies and made noise
>(or said he did.) Boy the letters to the editor! I wish I had a pop
cork
>meter to determine scientifically which issue is more volatile...people

>who talk in movies or people who drive slow in the left lane .[snip snip]

illuminada

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(EvelynR)' wrote:

>Let's not forget people who take 10 items through the 9 item lane in the
>supermarket, or those who stand in line for 20 minutes and then fumble for

>their checkbooks when they *finally* get to the register with a stupid
>expression on their face as if they just realized that duh...they're gonna

>pay with a check and on top of that they never know what the date is to

>write on the check <snip>

Even worse...how 'bout the slack-jawed customer who, whilst writing their
check, mutter these words..."Where *am* I?" And while I marvel at the
resourceful-ness, I *abhor* being behind coupon-fiends.
--
_
tracy k.
_
illum...@usa.pipeline.com
_
If you gaze for too long into the abyss, the abyss also gazes into
you.---Nietzsche
_

DBJ

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In <4tepsk$c...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> eve...@aol.com (EvelynR) writes:

>In article <darkstar-250...@ip202.sky.net>, dark...@sky.net
>(darkstar) writes:

>>Remember that article in Movieline (I think it was) where Joe Queenan (I
>>think it was but I am not sure!) purposely went to movies and made noise
>>(or said he did.) Boy the letters to the editor! I wish I had a pop cork
>>meter to determine scientifically which issue is more volatile...people
>>who talk in movies or people who drive slow in the left lane .[snip snip]

>Let's not forget people who take 10 items through the 9 item lane in the


>supermarket, or those who stand in line for 20 minutes and then fumble for
>their checkbooks when they *finally* get to the register with a stupid
>expression on their face as if they just realized that duh...they're gonna
>pay with a check and on top of that they never know what the date is to

>write on the check which holds up the line even more. Another cause for
>justifiable homicide.

Evelyn, These are the people that always are in front of ME. How
did you know? ;^)

I also like the persons who have all their food on the conveyer belt,
and the checker is half though with ringing them up, an they remember
something they "forgot" to get and take off for an "extended" hunt
through the grocery store leaving you and everyone else in line
fuming!!

Beverly

Papaleonardos

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JanetSpncr <janet...@aol.com> wrote:
>I've always thought that it might be interesting to walk into an elevator
>full of people and not turn around....You know, remain facing at the back
>wall with your back to the door, looking at all of the other occupants
>nonchalantly. A friend of mine suggested an extraordinary improvement to
>that scenario. When you turn around and leave, run to the next floor and
>try to board the same elevator. You just enter it, grin and say "I know
>you were talking about me...."
>
>I wouldn't do it, but the prospect of undermining some of the protocols
>which we observe in public is most fascinating.
>
>Janet

I occasionally teach an intro course in sociology. One of the assignments I
sometimes give students is to violate a norm (rule of socially expected
behavior) and write about it, including the reactions of others and their own
feelings about what happened. Over the years students have engaged in all
sorts norm violations.
-- walking into a near-empty doctor's waiting room, sitting right next to
the only other person, and reading the other person's magazine over their
shoulder (perturbed, he just gave her the magazine and picked another, and she
then proceeded to read that one over his shoulder too)
-- getting into a near-empty elevator, standing next to the other occupant
and looking them in the face
-- a Native American student dressed up in full tribal costume went to the
local public library to seek reference assistance (the librarian's called the
cops about a very weirdly dressed man!)
-- going into WalMart's, selecting an item and trying to engage in
bargaining over price with the sales clerk
-- similarly, going to the checkout and offering *more* money for an item
than the ticketed price ("Well, I'm really pleased with this hat and think it's
worth a few dollars more than what you're selling it for"... clerk looked at
him like he was crazy, and said "I'm sorry, I'm not allowed to do that.")
-- another student went to dinner with his wife and in-laws and proceeded to
eat his steak without using a knife, either trying to cut it with his fork or
just picking it up with his hands and gnawing on it.
-- another student drove through toll-booths and gave the clerk extra fare,
saying, "Just use it for the car behind me." She said from the rear-view
mirror the looks of bewilderment and surprise on the next car's occupants'
faces were priceless.

These are just some of the ones I recall right now, it's a very useful exercise
as it shows how important in preserving social order is otherwise seemingly
trivial everyday behavior.

Chris

Jeff Kirk

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Since the topic is up, I figured I'd share a little anecdote that should be a
warning to you if you *do* decide to do something about those annoying movie
talkers...

Yesterday I saw "Courage Under Fire" with a couple of friends. Right in front
of us was a couple. Throughout the ENTIRE movie, the man would start mumbling
comments to himself during the MOST inappropriate times (heavy dramatic
moments, for instance). Finally one of my companions lost her cool and leaned
forward and said (surprisingly nicely) "would you *please* be quiet? We're
trying to pay attention to the movie!" At which point the man stood up
abruptly, mumbled something (we couldn't tell what, but I suspect it was "I
don't need this shit" or something similar), and walked out. And never came
back. (The movie was about 45 minutes from completion, btw.) We were afraid
he was waiting outside with a gun...which certainly could have been true,
given the unfortunate state of today's society, but which fortunately was
*not* true in this case.

The point: while talkers can be annoying as hell, be forewarned of the
dangers in saying something about it.

Jeff


Zorak

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Marc Lostracco wrote:

>
> In article <4tepsk$c...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, eve...@aol.com (EvelynR) wrote:
>
> > Let's not forget people who take 10 items through the 9 item lane in the
> > supermarket, or those who stand in line for 20 minutes and then fumble for
> > their checkbooks
>
> I had a woman at the ATM the other day do her (extended) banking, which
> was fine, but when finished she stood there and had to scrutinize the
> receipt (elapsed time, approximately 3 days), then carefully put her money
> away in her wallet, which she eventually found, and then proceeded to
> refresh her makeup in the bank machine's two-way mirror, all the while
> with a line snaking out behind her. Grrr!

These are situations when it's completely appropriate to speak up with a
simple "Hey, hurry up, you're holding up the line!" or, for the last
example, with an ego-shattering "Stop with the makeup -- it won't help
anyway!". I live in New York City where shouting at strangers is
standard behavior, but I've taken the "speaking up" approach in other
cities as well (and usually had more fun since the people don't expect
it!).

When I do speak up -- and I pick my targets wisely (VERY important since
moving ahead on line is not worth your life)-- the people are usually
shocked and cease their line-stalling behavior. The couple of times I
said something to a feisty type who shouted right back, I backed off
*very* quickly.

There's no reason that you should be taken advantage of by inconsiderate
or clueless people. Just speak up when you feel it's appropriate. Trust
me, your fellow line-waiters will thank you.

- Kathy, ASGTPR #79, a personality Type A all the way

Chris Pisarra

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My least favorite things for other people to do:

Stop dead at the top of a freeway onramp.

Stop at a green light.

Bring a cell phone to the movies. Take calls. Make calls.

Signal left. Turn right.

Chris
--
Chris Pisarra pis...@ccnet.com

I don't think I'm alone when I say I'd like to see more and more
planets fall under the ruthless domination of our solar system.
-------Jack Handy

Marc Lostracco

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Jul 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/28/96
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In article <31FC0D...@ix.netcom.com>, Zorak <kath...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> These are situations when it's completely appropriate to speak up with a
> simple "Hey, hurry up, you're holding up the line!"

Hey, I'm from Toronto. 'Nuff said. :-)

Marc
(not *always* Mr. Nice Guy)

--
Marc Lostracco | It was written I should be loyal
ef...@interlog.com | to the nightmare of my choice.
www.interlog.com/~efar | - Joseph Conrad

Marc Lostracco

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Jul 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/28/96
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In article <4tepsk$c...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, eve...@aol.com (EvelynR) wrote:

> Let's not forget people who take 10 items through the 9 item lane in the
> supermarket, or those who stand in line for 20 minutes and then fumble for
> their checkbooks

I had a woman at the ATM the other day do her (extended) banking, which
was fine, but when finished she stood there and had to scrutinize the
receipt (elapsed time, approximately 3 days), then carefully put her money
away in her wallet, which she eventually found, and then proceeded to
refresh her makeup in the bank machine's two-way mirror, all the while
with a line snaking out behind her. Grrr!

--

Frank M. Miller

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In article <31FAB3...@qnet.com>, mel...@qnet.com wrote:


=I have no problem with those things...my own arbitrary irk-inducer are
=the people who pull up to the drive-thru lane at the bank, then proceed
=to write out their entire deposit slip, etc, with everyone sitting
=behind them. Or the people who want McDonalds to remake their entire
=hamburger for them alone, with eight cars sitting behind them. On those
=rare occasions when I'm forced to do McD's, I always seem to have that
=clod sitting in front of me.

I try not to do fast food because my blood pressure won't take the salt
and aggravation. Two big peeves:

1-Drive through attendants who take your order, take your money, then tell
you there's an eight minute wait for whatever you just ordered. I take
great glee in making them figure out how much I gave them and driving off.

2-People who don't understand the concept of fast food. I used to work at
CNN Center in Atlanta, which has a food court on the first level and a
convention center next door. The worst was the Southern Baptist
Convention--thousands of people who rarely ventured into civilized
territory. One man literally asked the counter help how the thing worked
("You mean, I pick something I want off the wall, and you bring it to
me!"). Others would stand in line for 15 minutes and still not know what
they wanted or have their money ready. And almost always, it would seem,
the person in front of me had to include his/her life history with the
order.

/----------------------------------------------------------------------\
| Frank Miller, ASGTPR #18 | |
| frn...@mindspring.com | "I saw something nasty in the |
| Atlanta, Georgia | woodshed." |
\_____________________ |________________________/

Rick Rashid

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Jul 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/28/96
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On Sat, 27 Jul 1996 03:49:24 -0400, jim...@mis.ca (Robert Matthews)
wrote:

>
>> A friend of mine went to see Night of the Living Dead at a sleazy Market
>> Street cinema in San Francisco (1979/80?). Guy came in halfway through
>> the movie, sat down next to my friend...and about five minutes later
>> grabbed his right hand and bit off a piece of his index finger (down to
>> the second joint), then ran from the theatre.


But, I didn't think you were allowed to bring your own food into a
movie theater these days...

Rick Rashid

DBJ

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Jul 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/29/96
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In <4tfunj$n...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> dez...@aol.com (Dezbot) writes:

>In article <4tbce5$m...@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
>mrit...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael S Ritchie) writes: >>I hope
>they didn't clap during Pullman's deliberately sappy speech. It was all I
>could do to not laugh out loud.<<

>ahh, i have not such self-control, i was LMAO during that speech and
>catching various glowers from others...and i even enjoyed the picture!
>but that speech was by far so over-the-top i couldn't resist
>guffawing..... =D

Unfortunately, Mr. Pullman's sappy speech is about the same calibre
of most of our "real" politicians. (Just my own opinion here).

At least Mr. Pullman's phony speech was delievered with more
conviction (which ain't saying much ;^) ) than some other
presidents (who shall remain nameless). Siiigghh!!

Beverly

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