Old Dykes of Showbiz
PeaceDove6
^v^
blueangl
ha, ha. Not that there's anything wrong with it. TSK! TSK!
mslinda
>
> PeaceDove6 wrote:
>
> >Liz Smith I know for sure, Lily Tomlin...who else?
>
> MENGERS, but no one seemed to know what was up with her these days.
>
> Of course, the talk about Dolly Parton's homosexuality never abates...
>
> Doogie
FWIW, I know a lot of people involved with the country music business
and don't know anyone who thinks she's a lesbian. Bi, maybe, but she's
had several not-especially private romances with men. With her faithful
hubby at home, her gay manager in LA, lots of cute guys to fool around
with and her longtime gal pal on the road with her, it sounds to me like
she's got it all. ;-)
Linda C.
Vaniti99
Alice from the Brady Bunch?
Bea Arthur?
Kate Hepburn ?
----newer ---Paula Poundstone
Christy McNichol
Agnes Moorehead (Bewitched mommy)
Boy George?
*Sharyn*
SMorris788
>Bea Arthur?
>Kate Hepburn ?
>----newer ---Paula Poundstone
>Christy McNichol
>Agnes Moorehead (Bewitched mommy)
>Boy George?
No kidding, Christy McNichol? Where did ya hear that?
Sherbaker
oh , yeah... i heard she was gay years ago...
User1237
years.
Rich
Grnbrier
>Liz Smith I know for sure, Lily Tomlin...who else?
I started a thread a while back about legendary sapphist/superagent SUE
MacHeath
Give me a break...I believe that one as much as the Thelma Ritter/Agnes
Moorehead/Gale Sondergaard orgy rumour.
andrew.
Everdean
TawnyBlond
>Liz Smith I know for sure, Lily Tomlin...who else?
>
I heard Barbra Stanwyck...Joan Crawford always struck me as one but never
heard about her being one.
Waspie123
Le Petomane
>
> Mary Martin. "Dyke, ya know," according to Ethel Merman.
THATS the pot calling the kettle black!
cee...@pacbell.net
I believe old Joanie went both ways.
Let's see, how about
Greta Garbo
Patsy Kelly
Marie Dressler
Claudette Colbert
Marlene Dietrich
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PRINCESSPK
costume designer, Edith Head. Head, who was a dead ringer, facialy and
vocally, for that witch person, um, no not Imogen, um, oh, yes, Margaret
Hamilton, was portrayed as kindly as possible by the folks at AMC, even though
the woman was a notorious liar and credit grabber. They never actually said
she was a l_______, and had a long running affair with Barbara Stanwick, but
they danced around it like it was a big stick in the ground, covered with
ribbons, on May first.
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Or maybe just a missing "... not that there's anything wrong with that!"
Rowan Mayfair
> >Liz Smith I know for sure, Lily Tomlin...who else?
>
>
> Kate Hepburn ?
Contrary to what some people may want to believe, Spencer Tracy was not a beard.
>
> ----newer ---Paula Poundstone
> Christy McNichol
> Agnes Moorehead (Bewitched mommy)
Newer ?? Honey, she was *old* in the 60's. She was young when she did Citizen
Kane.
> Boy George?
LOL.
>
> *Sharyn*
Frank M. Miller
princ...@aol.com (PRINCESSPK) wrote:
=Dahlings, I just saw this perfectly delish special on AMC about legendary
=costume designer, Edith Head. Head, who was a dead ringer, facialy and
=vocally, for that witch person, um, no not Imogen, um, oh, yes, Margaret
=Hamilton, was portrayed as kindly as possible by the folks at AMC, even though
=the woman was a notorious liar and credit grabber. They never actually said
=she was a l_______, and had a long running affair with Barbara Stanwick, but
=they danced around it like it was a big stick in the ground, covered with
=ribbons, on May first.
There's an interesting interview with Ms. Head in Boze Hadleigh's
"Hollywood Lesbians." I'd love to see Linda Hunt play her someday.
+===============================================================+
Frank Miller, 10086 Sunset Blvd., FABville
frnklin at mindspring dot com (please note correct email address, albeit spelled out)
Atlanta, GA
"I am impatient with stupidity." --Michael Rennie, THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL
+===============================================================+
RUtahkn2Me
Frank, what an excellent idea. Linda Hunt as Edith Head. Perfect casting!
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AnnieRU aka RUtahkn2Me
Yes, my favorite actor is Robert DeNiro.
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Rob Lachance
says...
> Waspie123 wrote:
> >
> > Mary Martin. "Dyke, ya know," according to Ethel Merman.
>
>
> THATS the pot calling the kettle black!
>
C.L. Lassiter
> Dahlings, I just saw this perfectly delish special on AMC about legendary
Oooooo, now this sounds like good dirt. Spill, please. Pretty please?
With godiva chocolates on top?
cl
Sherbaker
while... really.
Sher
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Today's Dish? Bette Davis...
Waspie123
She's married to a handsome young tv executive at Paramount (where FRASIER is
shot). They met at a Christmas party for her show a few years back and got
married in '97, I think.
Buzz
affair with Agnes Morehead (Endora), but only after having caught her
husband, Charles Laughton, having a homosexual affair.
Nancy Kulp (Miss Jane on "The Beverly Hillbillies")
What's-her-name who played the girl who always had a crush on Dobie Gillis.
Penny Marshall? To my knowledge, it's just an unfounded rumor, but a rumor
nonetheless.
Dianne Murphy, one of the twins that played Tabatha Stevens on "Bewitched"
(of course, she she doesn't qualify as "old")
TawnyBlond <tawny...@aol.com> wrote in article
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>
> >Liz Smith I know for sure, Lily Tomlin...who else?
> >
>
theresa
a dangerous assignment in such dire circumstances, those who survived became life-long friends. Two of the
fellows were especially kind to the gawky Ohio farm boy my father was before the war forced him to grow up,
and after the war, when they settled not far from my dad, and then mom, in Hollywood, they became our
families closest friends. One was my godfather, the other was my sister's. This is how we became the pet
nuclear family of some of the most flamboyant and successful money men in the movie industry, and this is
how I met, among others, Edith Head.
It wasn't too long before she died, but as another poster remarked, she was fully alive until the end. I
must have been 10 or 11, and she learned I liked to draw clothes. We met over a lunch at my godfather's and
she spent a few hours telling me about fabric and color, but best of all, she drew a picture of my
godfather's cat for me to keep.
I don't know what the ins and outs of her career turned out to be, and it was pretty clear to me even then
what (and who) she liked and why, but I remember a nice lady who told me never to forget the spirit of the
fabric, the spirit of the color, and the spirit of the woman is what makes a beautiful dress.
michelle wrote:
>
> X-No-Archive: yes
>
> La Head did the dresses for "To Catch a Thief" and thought her creations
> were the best of her career. She loved doing clothes for Grace Kelly, but
> was offended when she was not asked to do her wedding dress. MGM was paying
> for the wedding dress, and Paramount (where La Head) worked had no reason to
> pay for the further Princess Grace of Monaco's gown.
>
> La Head wanted to camouflage Audrey Hepburn's figure "faults", but Miss
> Hepburn was pleased with her slim built and features. She liked looking
> different from the rest in Hollywood. I might be getting mixed up on the
> films, but I think La Head wanted to do the wardrobe for "Sabrina" (that's
> it, one of my favorite movies), but the producer/director and/or Miss
> Hepburn insisted that the character Sabrina should come home from Paris with
> a French designer wardrobe for an authentic feel. Miss Hepburn discovered
> Givenchy who did the gowns and wardrobe for the movie. When the movie won
> an Oscar for its wardrobe, the studio was entitled to give the award to La
> Head. According to her contract, she was the official designer for
> Paramount so she was entitled to *all* design awards presented to any film
> produced by the studio.
>
> AMC's special was a good one. They didn't come out and say La Head was a
> L_____, but they said that she was a very private person, and little was
> known about her personal life. One thing that was different about her was
> that she enjoyed wearing brightly colored clothing and gowns at home in
> contrast to her no nonsense and drab suits that was her work uniform and
> dark glasses (to hide her true feelings when she was dealing with stars)
> when she was at the studio.
>
> "Cats are rather delicate creatures and they are subject to a good many
> ailments, but I never heard of one who suffered from insominia."
> * Joseph Wood Krutch
>
> PRINCESSPK <princ...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:19990430213548...@ngol04.aol.com...
> > In article <7gd1ag$cdd$1...@fddinewz.oit.unc.edu>, sea...@email.unc.edu
> (C.L.
> > Now, dahling, do keep in mind that this comes from a girl who read "The
> Dress
> > Doctor", and was influenced in lifelong ways. AMC did interviews with Ms
> > Head's contemporaries, cronies, co-workers, and costumed stars, and the
> upshot
> > was:
> >
> > 1. She lied her way into Paramount. She was a teacher taking an art
> class
> > when she read of their need for a sketch artist, so she collected 2
> drawings
> > from each of her schoolmates, changed the sigs to hers, and submitted them
> to
> > the studio. She was hired immediately. When her deception was uncovered,
> (she
> > really couldn't draw well), her boss, the costume dept head, kept her,
> thinking
> > this way he would not be fostering his replacement. He underestimated
> her, um,
> > ambition.
> >
> > 2. She formed an aliance with Mae West, who did a picture costumed by EH,
> that
> > "saved Paramount", catapulting both into stardom, each in her own right.
> >
> > 3. She had it put into her contract that any picture done at Paramount,
> with
> > her on costumes, could only credit her for the costumes, even if, like
> Olig
> > Cassini, actually designed them.
> >
> > 4..She learned to cater to the stars, and by flattering them, (we are
> talking
> > words, here, not waist lines), she consolidated her power, in her realm.
> >
> > 5. She once told a designer to get out of Hollywood, saying he didn't
> belong
> > there, because he "didn't lie well enough".
> >
> > 6. Um, then I got distracted by some chocolate covered pecans, so I don't
> > amember much else, except they did say that she worked up to almost the
> day she
> > died, at, like 85, and that many stars attended her funeral, though it was
> said
> > that "Bette Davis gave the performance of a lifetime, when she read the
> eulogy,
> > calling EH the queen of costumes". I thought that was Mr. Blackwell, um,
> no,
> > wait, *he* is the *evil* queen of costumes.
> >
> > Reigning and Deigning
> >
> > Pink Wishes
> > The Princess \^*^*^/
> >
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> >
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> >
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> show
> > at:
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> >
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> > http://www.geocities.com/broadway/3060
> >
PRINCESSPK
<emil...@NOearthSPAMlink.net> writes:
>Long before I was born, my father served as an infantry scout in the South
>Pacific during W.W.II. With such
>a dangerous assignment in such dire circumstances, those who survived became
>life-long friends. Two of the
>fellows were especially kind to the gawky Ohio farm boy my father was before
>the war forced him to grow up,
>and after the war, when they settled not far from my dad, and then mom, in
>Hollywood, they became our
>families closest friends. One was my godfather, the other was my sister's.
>This is how we became the pet
>nuclear family of some of the most flamboyant and successful money men in the
>movie industry, and this is
>how I met, among others, Edith Head.
>
>It wasn't too long before she died, but as another poster remarked, she was
>fully alive until the end. I
>must have been 10 or 11, and she learned I liked to draw clothes. We met
>over a lunch at my godfather's and
>she spent a few hours telling me about fabric and color, but best of all, she
>drew a picture of my
>godfather's cat for me to keep.
^^^^^^^^^^PINKing shear snippage^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Dahling, 2 words: E Bay!
King...@pacbell.net
> What's-her-name who played the girl who always had a crush on Dobie >Gillis.
Sheila Kuehl. She's now a member of the California State Assembly from
Santa Monica. She got her law degree from Cal after leaving Hollywood in
the early 1960's. I've met her several times and she's delightful, witty
and charming. She has one great sense of humor and is a very intelligent
person.
Lewis Angel
with Dietrich, Garbo, Bankhead, and possibly Louise Brooks.
PRINCESSPK <princ...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> In article <372A62C0...@ix.netcom.com>, james jorden
> <jjo...@ix.netcom.com> writes:
>
> >nd yet, the most savvy of actresses, Davis among them, insisted
> >contracturally that Head do their costumes for their most important
> >pictures. That suggests that Head was at the very least extremely
> >competent at her job.
> >
> >Head's lying and other unsavory acts show that she was insecure about
> >her talent; on that issue she was apparently wrong. She was an
> >imaginative designer with both superb taste and solid practical
> >intelligence. She might well have succeeded just as brilliantly without
> >all the dirty deeds.
>
> I agree, dahling. I remember a dress she dd for Elizabeth Taylor, it was
such
> a sensation it was duplicated wildly. I've always loved her.
>
> Duplicity? It *is* Hollywood, after all.
Lewis Angel
parents?
<MikeC...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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. An obit on Ellen Corby mentioned a lady-friend of 45
> years. Interesting, since Will Geer, who played her husband on "The
> Waltons", was also gay.
>
Terry L. Smith
: I've always enjoyed looking at Edith Head's work. All of her clothes have a
: timeless appeal. As a seamstress, I would have loved looking at the inside
: of her garments for the impeccable craftsmanship that I know went into each
: item. Thanks for sharing your memories of her.
Years ago, a ballet company I was associated with somehow acquired
some "period" costumes that had been used long before in movies.
I suppose they may have picked them up pretty reasonably at some
studio sale. Anyway, we used several of them every year in the
"Nutcracker" Family Scene (Act I - the party, just before the "magic"
scene where the tree grows, and the toy soldiers battle the mice).
We had "alternating casts," so several people alternated wearing
the same costumes, depending on the size & shape of the particular
dancers & of the costumes. They were all late-Victorian "bustle"
era dresses, and those things were *astonishingly* beautifully
tailored. They were made of all "natural" fabrics, and were double-
lined; the hand-stitching and the details were wonderful.
The costume I usually wore for that scene was a pwder-blue long-
sleeved fairly full-skirted jobbie, with an attached little
capelet, trimmed with light chocolate-colored velvet. It had
been worn in the film "The Toast of New York," by France Farmer,
in *1937*. Over forty years later, that costume was still being
worn, and *danced* in, and still looked good; that's how well made
it was.
Heh. Ms Farmer must have had a very curvy figure; all of us who wore
that costume had to er, fill-out the bust with considerable padding.
Okay, dancers aren't usually all that bosomy anyway, but we're talking
major pads here. And... we *also* had to wear corsety "merry-widow"
waist cinchers so the waist would fit. Hour-glass fer sure!
(She was pretty short, though - that particular costume couldn't
be worn by anyone over 5'4")
: "Cats are rather delicate creatures and they are subject to a good many
: ailments, but I never heard of one who suffered from insominia."
: * Joseph Wood Krutch
Mr. Krutch, meet Amazing Gracie (now deceased, alas).
Gracie had a "paradoxical reaction" to a prescribed pain-killer
after a major operation. It was *supposed* to not only alleviate
discomfort, but make her very drowsy.
What it DID was allieviate discomfort (as far as we could tell),
but also make her *wide* *awake*, and anxious. That cat did not
sleep for over three days.
And she YOWLED if she didn't have someone she liked nearby. Neaby
and awake. So I didn't get much sleep those days, either.
yes, she was spoiled. Of course. but she was also a really wonderful
little cat. I'd be more than willing to spend a lot of time awake,
if it meant I could have her back.
She used to mine "treasure" (discarded business cards, rcpts. etc.)
from the office waste-basket, and graciously return her finds to us.
"You must have thrown this away by mistake - I'm sure you wouldn't
throw away something that smells so interesting... "
Gracie was nice to nap with, too. Sleeping cats can be Good Things.
"To appreciate the cat is the beginning of aesthetic sense."
- Theophile Gautier
- M.Q.S., Cdr. C'mell, KPS AKA The Lilac Fairy
... no, I don't know who designed those costumes. They were
lovely, though.
(I liked that costume. Not only was it pretty, it had been *next
to Cary Grant*! *sigh* ... one pal of mine was in a production of
CAMELOT, not long after the show closed on B'way. They rented the
costumes from the original show. Two of his had little tags saying
"Goulet" in them.)
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David, together again for the first time
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> If Ellen Corby and Will Geer were both gay, then who were Ralph Waite's
real
> parents?
>
>
Melissa Etheridge and Julie Cypher.
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> Has anyone mentioned Hattie McDaniel.... I'm not kidding. She had affairs
> with Dietrich, Garbo, Bankhead, and possibly Louise Brooks.
>
And yet it was Butterfly McQueen who knew nothing about birthing babies.
But it does explain why Mammy was so vexed by Scarlett flirting with men.
MikeC...@webtv.net
name, Kuehl). She now holds a state-eleted office in California. From
50s TV, Robin Morgan, "Dagmar" on "Mama", who became a radical feminist
and editor at Ms. Magazine. Don't forget jazz singer, Alberta Hunter.
And hasn't Debbie Reynolds been in gay rumors over the years?
mslinda
>(major snip)
>
> The costume I usually wore for that scene was a pwder-blue long-
> sleeved fairly full-skirted jobbie, with an attached little
> capelet, trimmed with light chocolate-colored velvet. It had
> been worn in the film "The Toast of New York," by France Farmer,
> in *1937*. Over forty years later, that costume was still being
> worn, and *danced* in, and still looked good; that's how well made
> it was.
>
> Heh. Ms Farmer must have had a very curvy figure; all of us who wore
> that costume had to er, fill-out the bust with considerable padding.
> Okay, dancers aren't usually all that bosomy anyway, but we're talking
> major pads here. And... we *also* had to wear corsety "merry-widow"
> waist cinchers so the waist would fit. Hour-glass fer sure!
> (She was pretty short, though - that particular costume couldn't
> be worn by anyone over 5'4")
>
Farmer's well-known drug problems were started (or at least made worse)
by taking diet pills to keep her very voluptuous figure movie-star trim.
Linda C.
Lolaheathr
Allen Ludden and George Burns were to Carol Channings husband (Allen and he
were ex-army buddies) and that they were always getting together. This was
written before it was disclosed that he is gay and only had sex with Carol
once. So what's the scoop. Were they just friends and Carol's husband happened
to be gay or were the three gay all gay? Even GEORGE BURNS? What about
White..was she just a beard?
dar
MikeC...@webtv.net wrote:
Alberta Hunter, really? I love her ... now I love her more.
Speaking of black and blues, I guess we should include one of my hometown
lezzie legends, Bessie Smith from Chattanooga.
Ummm, Tennessee.
dar
dar
But I dunno .. Betty seems like she would demand a regular plowing. Hmmm
... maybe she was playing Snatch Game with Gene Rayburn?
dar
In article <19990502214918...@ng24.aol.com>,
PRINCESSPK
>Just ready Betty White's autobio. In it she states how close her late husband
>Allen Ludden and George Burns were to Carol Channings husband (Allen and he
>were ex-army buddies) and that they were always getting together. This was
>written before it was disclosed that he is gay and only had sex with Carol
>once. So what's the scoop. Were they just friends and Carol's husband
>happened
>to be gay or were the three gay all gay? Even GEORGE BURNS?
George, himself, spoke of his infidelities. Once, he said, Gracie, (I think he
said he called her Goo-Goo), caught him. After an elaborate appology, and
asking how he could make it up to her, she asked for jewelry, a coat, and a
sterling silver centrepiece. Some years later George overheard her telling one
of her friends about the affair, and the gifts, afterwards. The friend was
horrified and displayed 16 kinds of dismay, to which she responded with a kind
of casual dismissal, musing that if George did it again, she could use another
centrepiece.
Now which one was the "dum" one? He did use feminine pronouns describing his
enamorata, if that means anything.
PeaceDove6
Hello?? Which ones..like he called his cock - pussy?
And you think you *know* people..huh
Princess let it all hang out with:
<< He did use feminine pronouns describing his enamorata, if that means
anything.>>>
^v^
Sherbaker
>>>Has anyone mentioned Hattie McDaniel.... I'm not kidding. She had affairs
with Dietrich, Garbo, Bankhead, and possibly Louise Brooks.<<
Yeah, I did way back at the beginning of this thread... She had a long time
thang going on with Tallulah , especially..
speaking of lesbians....
Today's Brazen Hussies' Dish? Lesbian ears..... and Ed Wood returns.. plus
"Valley of the Dolls", alligators in heat, and a dig at Calorexia Flockhart!
http://www.brazenhussy.com
Then click on Daily Dish, natch!
PRINCESSPK
peace...@aol.commanche (PeaceDove6) writes:
>Princess let it all hang out with:
>
><< He did use feminine pronouns describing his enamorata, if that means
>anything.>>>
>
><screetching halt>
>
>Hello?? Which ones..like he called his cock - pussy?
>
>And you think you *know* people..huh
Screeching? Yes, precious, that is a word *I* associate with you. Obviously
you left your "Highly Official Princess-to-Itallian Dictionary" in your other
desk, let me help you:
enamorata (en´am-o-rat´ä) noun
plural enamorattii (-tę) or enamorattos
A lover or person of low esteem, sometimes used to imply profane, rather than
sacred love, i.e. a courtesan, rather than a wife.
[Italian, diminutive of Amore, Cupid, from Latin Amor, from amor, love. See
AMOROUS.]
The Highly Official Princess-to-Itallian DictionaryŽ, Third Edition copyright Š
1992 by Highfalootin Mufflin Company. Electronic version licensed from OhSoSoft
International, Inc. All rights reserved.
ssmi...@my-dejanews.com
Likewise on Alberta, and as long as we're going there, let's not forget
Bessie's mentor, Ma Rainey. "Went out one night with a bunch of my
friends, they must have been women 'cause I don't like no men"
Steve
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PeaceDove6
Princess ...slowly...Im at the end of the day here!
Please tell me you've got this in hard copy...
we can work out the details..CC# etc.
Luv ya
>Screeching? Yes, precious, that is a word *I* associate with you.
>Obviously<BR>
>you left your "Highly Official Princess-to-Itallian Dictionary" in your
>other<BR>
>desk, let me help you:<BR>
><BR>
>enamorata (en´am-o-rat´ä) noun<BR>
>plural enamorattii (-tê) or enamorattos<BR>
>A lover or person of low esteem, sometimes used to imply profane, rather
>than<BR>
>sacred love, i.e. a courtesan, rather than a wife.<BR>
>[Italian, diminutive of Amore, Cupid, from Latin Amor, from amor, love.
>See<BR>
>AMOROUS.]<BR>
><BR>
>The Highly Official Princess-to-Itallian Dictionary®, Third Edition copyright
>©<BR>
>1992 by Highfalootin Mufflin Company. Electronic version licensed from
>OhSoSoft<BR>
>International, Inc. All rights reserved.<BR>
^v^
PRINCESSPK
details, just send that information to any of my websites, operators are
standing by to max it out to Godiva, um, I mean, fulfill your every wish. Do
hurry, though, offer is limited, void where prohibited.
In article <19990503183501...@ng-fb1.aol.com>,
peace...@aol.commanche (PeaceDove6) writes:
>Oy vey..>!!
>
>Princess ...slowly...Im at the end of the day here!
>
>Please tell me you've got this in hard copy...
>we can work out the details..CC# etc.
>
>Luv ya
>
>
>
>
>>Screeching? Yes, precious, that is a word *I* associate with you.
>>Obviously
>>you left your "Highly Official Princess-to-Itallian Dictionary" in
>your>other
>>desk, let me help you:
>>
>>enamorata (en´am-o-rat´ä) noun
>>plural enamorattii (-tê) or enamorattos
>>A lover or person of low esteem, sometimes used to imply profane,
>rather>than
>>sacred love, i.e. a courtesan, rather than a wife.
>>[Italian, diminutive of Amore, Cupid, from Latin Amor, from amor, love.>See
>>AMOROUS.]
>>
>>The Highly Official Princess-to-Itallian Dictionary®, Third Edition
>copyright>©
>>1992 by Highfalootin Mufflin Company. Electronic version licensed
>from>OhSoSoft
>>International, Inc. All rights reserved.
>^v^
james jorden
Elliot's dream of being a glamorous and sexy socialite. The final line
is "Oh, how thrilling to be the world's inamorata!"
PRINCESSPK wrote:
>
> In article <19990503083905...@ng-fb1.aol.com>,
> peace...@aol.commanche (PeaceDove6) writes:
>
> >Princess let it all hang out with:
> >
> ><< He did use feminine pronouns describing his enamorata, if that means
> >anything.>>>
>
> >
> ><screetching halt>
> >
> >Hello?? Which ones..like he called his cock - pussy?
> >
> >And you think you *know* people..huh
>
> Screeching? Yes, precious, that is a word *I* associate with you. Obviously
> you left your "Highly Official Princess-to-Itallian Dictionary" in your other
> desk, let me help you:
>
> enamorata (en´am-o-rat´ä) noun
> plural enamorattii (-tę) or enamorattos
> A lover or person of low esteem, sometimes used to imply profane, rather than
> sacred love, i.e. a courtesan, rather than a wife.
> [Italian, diminutive of Amore, Cupid, from Latin Amor, from amor, love. See
> AMOROUS.]
>
> The Highly Official Princess-to-Itallian DictionaryŽ, Third Edition copyright Š
> 1992 by Highfalootin Mufflin Company. Electronic version licensed from OhSoSoft
> International, Inc. All rights reserved.
>
> Reigning and Deigning
>
> Pink Wishes
> The Princess \^*^*^/
>
> Are you ready for a new domain?
> It is coming soon, very soon.
>
> The shocking tale of Ego gone wild:
> http://www.QueenOfCold.com
>
> History, wealth, intrigue, glamour and women's rights! See my one woman show
> at:
> http://www.queenofcold.com/alva.html
>
> LCM and The Princess:
> http://www.geocities.com/broadway/3060
--
james jorden
jjo...@ix.netcom.com
http://www.parterre.com
"If you want to get the girl, tell her you're gay."
-- Ian McKellen
PeaceDove6
order?
By the way, I noticed you hired guys with very easy-off-with-your-panties
voices...ohhhh! Great marketing!
Consider me a very satisfied customer.
:)
Princess wrote:
>Yes, precious DO send me your CC#. Don't worry your adorable head about
>the<BR>
>details, just send that information to any of my websites, operators are<BR>
>standing by to max it out to Godiva, um, I mean, fulfill your every wish.
>Do<BR>
>hurry, though, offer is limited, void where prohibited.<BR>
><BR>
^v^
theresa
"Tallulah's gone and got herself a man..." I've never heard about Hattie McDaniel...
>
> Alberta Hunter, really? I love her ... now I love her more.
>
> Speaking of black and blues, I guess we should include one of my hometown
> lezzie legends, Bessie Smith from Chattanooga.
>
>
> dar
PRINCESSPK
<jjo...@ix.netcom.com> writes:
>The song "Huxley" from the musical LADY IN THE DARK is about Liza
>Elliot's dream of being a glamorous and sexy socialite. The final line
>is "Oh, how thrilling to be the world's inamorata!"
Oh, Goddess dahling, you have brought up one of my all time favourites,
Gertrude Lawrence, and one of my top ten moovies, that I perfectly worship and
adore, "Star!" Dahling I have absolutely patterned my life on it! Well, the
many changes of costume, fingernails and wigs, at least, teehee!
There once was a gir named Jenny
Whose virtues were varied and many
Excepting that she was inclined
Always to make up her mind!
PRINCESSPK
peace...@aol.commanche (PeaceDove6) writes:
>Question. Do I get a "I Had a Piece of Ricky Martin" T-Shirt sent with my
>order?
>
>By the way, I noticed you hired guys with very easy-off-with-your-panties
>voices...ohhhh! Great marketing!
>
>Consider me a very satisfied customer.
>
>:)
Call again, any time, precious, but next time, please, a gold or platinum card?
These things with limits were not invented for royalty. Merci!
DonnaB
princ...@aol.com (PRINCESSPK) posted the following in Msg#
<19990503172703...@ngol07.aol.com> :
| Screeching? Yes, precious, that is a word *I* associate with you. Obviously
| you left your "Highly Official Princess-to-Itallian Dictionary" in your other
| desk, let me help you:
|
| enamorata (en?am-o-rat?a) noun
| plural enamorattii (-te) or enamorattos
| A lover or person of low esteem, sometimes used to imply profane, rather than
| sacred love, i.e. a courtesan, rather than a wife.
| [Italian, diminutive of Amore, Cupid, from Latin Amor, from amor, love. See
| AMOROUS.]
|
| The Highly Official Princess-to-Itallian Dictionary?, Third Edition copyright ?
| 1992 by Highfalootin Mufflin Company. Electronic version licensed from OhSoSoft
| International, Inc. All rights reserved.
|
| Reigning and Deigning
|
| Pink Wishes
| The Princess \^*^*^/
Speaking of "i", any idea how it got spelled with an "i" the
way I learned it, oh, yo, so many years ago? This isn't in
the anti-FAQ, is it? I'll be sooo embarrassed.
To wit.
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/mweb
Main Entry: in?amo?ra?ta
Pronunciation: i-"na-m&-'ra-t&
Function: noun
Etymology: Italian innamorata, from feminine of innamorato,
past participle of innamorare to inspire with love, from in-
(from L) + amore love, from Latin amor -- more at AMOROUS
Date: 1651
: a woman with whom one is in love or has intimate relations
--
DonnaB www.delphi.com/soapopera icq308592
Happy 35th Anniversary, AW!
Countdown: 38 more episodes.
"Good listeners are not only popular everywhere, but after a
while, they know something."
PRINCESSPK
Reigning and Deigning
Pink Wishes
The Princess \^*^*^/
Are you ready for a new domain?
AntiSp...@webtv.net
and Herb Biberman and there was nothing in her papers, artifacts,
personal letters, etc that would indicate she was a lesbian.
She took Biberman back when he was dying after he left her some years
early for a young babe.
BTW, the letters most of the people who were blacklisted were pretty
bitter except for the ones from Dalton Trumbo. Trumbo's were hilarious
even the one's he wrote during the darkest times in his career.
Happiness is not a right. It is an achievement.
orl...@oldxdykesx.killspam.us.com
bulldyke. anyone have any dish on this great actress?
orlando
In article <20950-37...@newsd-151.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
King...@pacbell.net
Mercedes McCambridge
Lizbeth Scott
theresa
long hair getting caught in machines. As part of a drive to encourage factory women to wear their hair
short for safety, Veronica Lake cut her own.
A casualty of war...
Finn wrote:
>
> <King...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> news:3731C862...@pacbell.net...
> > Two more for the list:
> >
> > Mercedes McCambridge
> > Lizbeth Scott
>
> Oh, my. A blast from the past. Many film fans adored Scott and they are
> still talking about her in a few film newsgroups. Many agreed that Hollywood
> ruined Scott - ever since she was caught with another woman by a Hollywood
> Confidential-type photographer, the studio shifted Scott from 'A-list' to
> 'B-list' until her contract was up. When it was, the studio dumped her. She
> vanished from the public since. Although many are still debating whether
> this is true but to them, Scott was one of the greatest glamorous stars - up
> there with Rita Hayworth, Veronica Lake and the likes. I think it's been
> agreed that Veronica Lake ripped the 'Look' off Scott (long hair over the
> eye). Or was it the other way round?
>
> Speaking of Lake, the poor woman was dumped after she discarded the Look. I
> think she had it cut and the public reacted badly. She was forgotten
> 'instantly' when she refused to change her look, but it wasn't a few years
> later that she adopted the Look again, but this time - no one was
> interested. God, it's quite scary to think that a simple haircut can ruin
> your career.
>
> Catty (a film bore)
> xx
Finn
cen0...@centuryinter.net
in the SW part of the state in the 30s before she got
on with the Mercury Radio Theatre, which later led
to H'wood. I think she was a dyke, alright. Soldier's
Grove is a little small for active dykedom, so she had
to go.
Mike Rice
cen0...@centuryinter.net
>Two more for the list:
>Mercedes McCambridge
>Lizbeth Scott
Explain how Lisbeth Scott performs as Hal Wallace's mistress
if she is a dyke. Kirk Douglas said Scott performed in Paramount
films all those years strictly because she was Wallace's mistress.
Incidentally, I think she is still alive. I think I saw her in Pulp
back in the 70s and she looked exactly as she did in Dead
Reckoning and Dark City. She was wonderful, mistress or
no mistress.
Mike Rice
jay...@my-dejanews.com
lolah...@aol.com (Lolaheathr) wrote:
> Just ready Betty White's autobio. In it she states how close her late husband
> Allen Ludden and George Burns were to Carol Channings husband (Allen and he
> were ex-army buddies) and that they were always getting together. This was
> written before it was disclosed that he is gay and only had sex with Carol
> once. So what's the scoop. Were they just friends and Carol's husband happened
> White..was she just a beard?
>
I have a male flight attendant friend who was hit on by Allen Ludden in a not-
so-subtle way...
Jaycey
RUtahkn2Me
When Kirk Douglas tells all these stories about other Hollywood actors, does he
also tell about his days as one of the most lecherous, womanizing pigs that
ever existed? His recovery from his stroke seems to have granted him a very
undeserved sainthood.
Lizbeth Scott is still with us. I was surfing the net and came across a recent
picture of her. She still looks great. I know nothing about her personal
life.
I still enjoy seeing her old films. She always seemed right for the roles.
Scott was also very beautiful. Blonde, blue-eyed and that wonderful smokey
voice. I always wanted to look and sound just like her. I still do.
></PRE></HTML>
mslinda
>
> King...@pacbell.net wrote:
>
> >Two more for the list:
>
> >Mercedes McCambridge
> >Lizbeth Scott
>
> Explain how Lisbeth Scott performs as Hal Wallace's mistress
> if she is a dyke. Kirk Douglas said Scott performed in Paramount
> films all those years strictly because she was Wallace's mistress.
> Incidentally, I think she is still alive. I think I saw her in Pulp
> back in the 70s and she looked exactly as she did in Dead
> Reckoning and Dark City. She was wonderful, mistress or
> no mistress.
>
> Mike Rice
It's been pretty well known throughout Scott's career that she's a
lesbian. She was "outed" by Confidential magazine in the 50s. As I
recall, she's alive and still living in the same Hollywood home she's
occupied for years.
Linda C.
PeaceDove6
^v^
King...@pacbell.net
>
> King...@pacbell.net wrote:
>
> >Two more for the list:
>
> >Mercedes McCambridge
> >Lizbeth Scott
>
> Explain how Lisbeth Scott performs as Hal Wallace's mistress
> if she is a dyke. Kirk Douglas said Scott performed in Paramount
> films all those years strictly because she was Wallace's mistress.
> Incidentally, I think she is still alive. I think I saw her in Pulp
> back in the 70s and she looked exactly as she did in Dead
> Reckoning and Dark City. She was wonderful, mistress or
> no mistress.
>
> Mike Rice
People often do things against their sexual orientation for the sake of
career advancement. I've always heard that Scott was a l______.
Apparently her name was found in the customer records of a French
l______ escort service in the 1950's.
Also, Hal Wallis married Martha Hyer who looks alot like Ms. Scott,
perhaps Kirk or you were mistaken.
Gary Smith
orl...@oldxdykesx.killspam.us.com
burt reynolds was pretty torrid :b
i remember in college how some of my lesbian friends
were in lust with dinah, and how they would converge upon
palm springs when she had her golf tournaments.
orlando
In article <19990507134427...@ng-fu1.aol.com>,
MLBRUNKER
rutah...@aol.comAnnieRU (RUtahkn2Me) writes:
>Lizbeth Scott. . . was also very beautiful. Blonde, blue-eyed and that
wonderful smokey voice. I always wanted to look and sound just like her. I
still do.
Generally gorgeous, but those eyebrows--everytime I see her movies, I want to
reach for tweezers.
mslinda
>
> Diana Shore - was she gay?
>
> ^v^
If you're referring to *Dinah* Shore, I don't think so. If she was, then
she and ole Burt sure put on a helluva good show back in the early 70s.
Just having a ladies golf tournament named after you does not
necessarily make you gay.
Linda C.
Migicovsky, David
news:19990507191801...@ngol01.aol.com...
Same thing with me when I see Richard Gere's nude scenes.
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Toni
wrote:
>PeaceDove6 wrote:
>> Diana Shore - was she gay?
>If you're referring to *Dinah* Shore, I don't think so. If she was, then
>she and ole Burt sure put on a helluva good show back in the early 70s.
The issue there is that she was some twenty years older than
him. It was quite a scandal, but then she was looking good in her
sixties. Cosmetic surgery is your friend :)
>Just having a ladies golf tournament named after you does not
>necessarily make you gay.
No, but it's a great place to meet women. I'm sorry, I
couldn't help myself.
--
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Email: sla...@paradiseDOTnet.nz (sub the DOT for guess what? :)
PeaceDove6
there was that Burt thing. The rumors were that they were bearding for one
another.
I remember when he and Sally Fields were an *item* as well.
Linda C wrote:
<<If you're referring to *Dinah* Shore, I don't think so. If he was, then<BR>
>she and ole Burt sure put on a helluva good show back in the early 70s.<BR>
^v^
lastan...@webtv.net
Reynolds.
Spring Byington and Marjorie Main (TRUE) were reputed to be lovers
for years.
Ditto Agnes Moorehead and Debie Reynolds.
Capucine speculation: a sex-change
Jamie Lee Curtis " : a hermaphrodite
Joan Crawford : a switch-hitter
Lizabeth Scott was my very favorite of all time> She was
drop-dead gorgeous. Rumor persists to this day (altho Mary Orr denies
it) that All About Eve is based on Scott and Tallulah Bankhead when
Scott understied her in Skin of Our Teeth on Bway. Scott was outed by
Confidential. She sued and won the case. The Hal Wallis situation was
not much stranger than many others. Scott is extremely intelligent and
quite well-off thanks to careful investments dueing her 10 year reign as
the Quee of Noir.
She was is a ver private person and was never part of the Hwood scene.
Other "rumors": Carole Landis, Sandy Dennis, Jaqueline
Susanne, Ethel Merman,Barbara Stanwyck, Alexis Smith (tho this might
have been wishful thinking),Diana Lynn,Judith Anderson,Judy
Garland,Dorothy Dandridge,Dolores Del Rio,etc...etc....etc.....
lam/
KAR
lastan...@webtv.net wrote:
> Dinah Shore was not gay but there were always rumors about
> Reynolds.
> Spring Byington and Marjorie Main (TRUE) were reputed to be lovers
> for years.
> Ditto Agnes Moorehead and Debie Reynolds.
> Capucine speculation: a sex-change
> Jamie Lee Curtis " : a hermaphrodite
> Joan Crawford : a switch-hitter
> Lizabeth Scott was my very favorite of all time> She was
> drop-dead gorgeous. Rumor persists to this day (altho Mary Orr denies
> it) that All About Eve is based on Scott and Tallulah Bankhead when
> Scott understied her in Skin of Our Teeth on Bway. Scott was outed by
> Confidential. She sued and won the case. The Hal Wallis situation was
> not much stranger than many others. Scott is extremely intelligent and
> quite well-off thanks to careful investments dueing her 10 year reign as
> the Quee of Noir.
I can't speak to whether Eve Harrington isn't based on a number of women
whom Mary Orr met before writing "The Wisdom Of Eve," nor whether Davis'
Margo Channing was based on Tallulah Bankhead exculsively (or if Colbert
had played it whether it would have been based on Ilka Chase as has also
been speculated IIRC). But in the recent April Hollywood Issue of Vanity
fair, this great movie is revisited and some nice dish about is served and
the "real" Eve is discussed at length. This is not Lizabeth Scott; this is
the understudy for Elizabeth Bergner, a great German stage and screen
actress who was doing theatre in this country after fleeing the policies of
the Third Reich. Apparantly Mary Orr met both women upon whom her story
was based. The truth is they became prototypes which were then
specifically interpreted when the film was made. Afterwards the real Eve
semi-stalked Orr and insisted on a face-to-face. (Which would make an
interesting movie, wouldn't it?)
theresa
>
> Other "rumors": Carole Landis, Sandy Dennis, Jaqueline
> Susanne, Ethel Merman,Barbara Stanwyck, Alexis Smith (tho this might
> have been wishful thinking),Diana Lynn,Judith Anderson,Judy
> Garland,Dorothy Dandridge,Dolores Del Rio,etc...etc....etc.....
>
> lam/
I heard Sandy Dennis was one of those straight women who didn't like being penetrated. Sometimes, they try
to be L_______, but they really aren't.
PRINCESSPK
lastan...@webtv.net writes:
>Dinah Shore was not gay but there were always rumors about
>Reynolds.
The rumor I remember hearing about her was that, somewhere in her liniage there
was some <gasp> African American blood. It was spoken of so frequently, and
"loudly", that, eventually she was asked if it were true, by a reporter. Her
answer, "Oh, I only wish it were."
> Spring Byington and Marjorie Main (TRUE) were reputed to be lovers
>for years.
> Ditto Agnes Moorehead and Debie Reynolds.
Debbie would have been SO much better off, had she been a lesbian, considering
the men in her life.
> Capucine speculation: a sex-change
I have heard, more than once, that this rumor was responsible for her suicide,
which, I think, was by stepping out a 7th floor window.
Reigning and Deigning
Pink Wishes
The Princess \^*^*^/
*BRAND NEW*
Get ready to be amazed, dahlings!
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Tada!
LCM and The Pink Princess go at it:
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PRINCESSPK
<my....@reveals.all> writes:
>MLBRUNKER <mlbr...@aol.comdespam> wrote in message
>news:19990507191801...@ngol01.aol.com...
>> In article <19990507121348...@ng31.aol.com>,
>> rutah...@aol.comAnnieRU (RUtahkn2Me) writes:
>>
>> >Lizbeth Scott. . . was also very beautiful. Blonde, blue-eyed and that
>> wonderful smokey voice. I always wanted to look and sound just like her.
>I
>> still do.
>>
>> Generally gorgeous, but those eyebrows--everytime I see her movies, I want
>to
>> reach for tweezers.
>>
>
>Same thing with me when I see Richard Gere's nude scenes.
For what, dahling, he is practically hairless?
Oh!
mslinda
>
> Never heard much about her after hours lifestyle including any men, but then
> there was that Burt thing.
How about her two marriages, including a *very* long one to screen hunk
George Montgomery?
The rumors were that they were bearding for one
> another.
>
Not the ones I heard. Did you hear yours from people who actually worked
in showbiz and lived in Hollywood?
> I remember when he and Sally Fields were an *item* as well.
More than an item. A relationship that lasted several years and only
broke up because he wouldn't commit to marriage.
Linda C.
mslinda
>
> In article <19086-37...@newsd-123.bryant.webtv.net>,
> lastan...@webtv.net writes:
>
> >Dinah Shore was not gay but there were always rumors about
> >Reynolds.
>
> The rumor I remember hearing about her was that, somewhere in her liniage there
> was some <gasp> African American blood. It was spoken of so frequently, and
> "loudly", that, eventually she was asked if it were true, by a reporter. Her
> answer, "Oh, I only wish it were."
Given that she was from the South, it wouldn't be that unusual.
>
> > Spring Byington and Marjorie Main (TRUE) were reputed to be lovers
> >for years.
> > Ditto Agnes Moorehead and Debie Reynolds.
>
> Debbie would have been SO much better off, had she been a lesbian, considering
> the men in her life.
How true! The poor woman made some *bad* choices in men.
Linda C.
King...@pacbell.net
<<SNIPPAGE>>
>
> > Capucine speculation: a sex-change
>
> I have heard, more than once, that this rumor was responsible for her suicide,
> which, I think, was by stepping out a 7th floor window.
>
>
> Pink Wishes
> The Princess \^*^*^/
One of the most ridiculous things I ever read about Judy Garland was
that she once left a suicide note stating that she wanted Joey and Lorna
to be left to Dirk Bogarde and Capucine. If so, she must have had a hell
of a laugh when the pills wore off.
Gary
Jefe
> One of the most ridiculous things I ever read about Judy Garland was
> that she once left a suicide note stating that she wanted Joey and Lorna
> to be left to Dirk Bogarde and Capucine. If so, she must have had a hell
> of a laugh when the pills wore off.
>
> Gary
Hey, Kingsrow, I just read that Judy Davis has signed to play Garland in
the TV movie of Lorna's book. Whaddya think? Actually, I can't think of
anyone better.
Jefe
AntiSp...@webtv.net
was a genuine class act and accepted people for who the were. She had
lots of gay friends, but she was also adamant about civil rights, since
the nanny who helped raise her was black.
I think the rumor about her being part black stemmed from the nanny
situation and the fact that she was adamant about having black
performers appear and sing with her on her 1950's television show
despite the sponsors and networks reservations..
Education is the sleeping pill that makes dreams come true.
mslinda
>
> Mahatma Kane Jeeves wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 8 May 1999 10:10:56 -0400 (EDT), lastan...@webtv.net wrote:
> > > Jamie Lee Curtis " : a hermaphrodite
> >
> > newsgroups a few years back where her condition was described in great detail,
> > but have since forgotten the specifics. It had something to do with a rare
> > chromosomal irregularity that made her a trifle androgynous, and sterile.
>
> Doesn't she have children. I mean, didn't she bear children to her husband
> (Christopher Guest) ?
No. Their one child was adopted.
Linda C.
Mahatma Kane Jeeves
> Jamie Lee Curtis " : a hermaphrodite
Could you elaborate on that? I followed a rather lengthy thread in one of the
newsgroups a few years back where her condition was described in great detail,
but have since forgotten the specifics. It had something to do with a rare
chromosomal irregularity that made her a trifle androgynous, and sterile. I
don't recall anything about her being born with a penis, but it did explain her
narrow hips, small breasts, and somewhat boyish looks.
--
Oh, Bust my Britches! Eggs Almondine in a Dijonais mustard sauce, and a Bottle
of Beaujolais! I asked for peanut butter and jelly.
Rowan Mayfair
> On Sat, 8 May 1999 10:10:56 -0400 (EDT), lastan...@webtv.net wrote:
> > Jamie Lee Curtis " : a hermaphrodite
>
> Could you elaborate on that? I followed a rather lengthy thread in one of the
> newsgroups a few years back where her condition was described in great detail,
> but have since forgotten the specifics. It had something to do with a rare
> chromosomal irregularity that made her a trifle androgynous, and sterile.
Doesn't she have children. I mean, didn't she bear children to her husband
(Christopher Guest) ?
Rowan Mayfair
I *love* Judy Davis. I think she could do a smashing job as Garland.
Bella Donna
msl...@earthlink.net says...
>
> Linda C.
>
Two kiddies, Guest and Curtis adopted a boy about 2
years ago, and the girl is around 11.
bel
4me 2no
for awhile to Robert Taylor, Barbara was butch.
4me 2no (n i do not no2 much)
"http://members.tripod.com/gifs123/airjordan.gif"
Wendy Grossman
mlbr...@aol.comdespam (MLBRUNKER) usenetted:
> In article <19990507121348...@ng31.aol.com>,
> rutah...@aol.comAnnieRU (RUtahkn2Me) writes:
>
> >Lizbeth Scott. . . was also very beautiful. Blonde, blue-eyed and that
> wonderful smokey voice. I always wanted to look and sound just like her
> . I
> still do.
>
> Generally gorgeous, but those eyebrows--everytime I see her movies, I wa
> nt to
> reach for tweezers.
>
>
This is a topic we don't discuss enough: eyebrows. More and more, I find
myself staring at actresses' eyebrows and saying, "What the hell has she
done there?" Is there supposed to be something wrong with an eyebrow that
isn't a tiny line? Some of these women look simply absurd.
wg
ASGTP#063
Robin Colleen Moore
> On Sat, 8 May 1999 10:10:56 -0400 (EDT), lastan...@webtv.net wrote:
> > Jamie Lee Curtis " : a hermaphrodite
>
> Could you elaborate on that? I followed a rather lengthy thread in one of
the
> newsgroups a few years back where her condition was described in great
detail,
> but have since forgotten the specifics. It had something to do with a
rare
> chromosomal irregularity that made her a trifle androgynous, and sterile.
I
> don't recall anything about her being born with a penis, but it did explain
her
> narrow hips, small breasts, and somewhat boyish looks.
>
*If* there's any truth to the story (and no one who knows offically is
talking, so there may or may not be any), what Jamie would have is
Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome. What this means is that the person
would be *genetically* male, but is missing whatever it is (a
chromosome?) that reacts to the androgen in the body and masculinizes
the genitals; consequently, the person appears to have female genitals,
but is missing a uterus and possibly a vagina as well, and is
genetically male. AIS patients don't necessarily *look* androgynous; in
fact, they can look quite feminine and can live very successfully as
women in the world; and I don't think JLC looks that much more
androgynous than a lot of other people. Needless to say, AIS patients
are unable to bear or father children, and Jamie Lee's apparent
infertility has led plenty of people to speculate, but again, no one
outside her family or medical circle knows whether or not there's any
truth to the rumor. (I believe the alt.folklore.urban FAQ at
www.urbanlegends.com should have a nice lengthy section somewhere on the
subject; I believe the feeling over there now is that they Don't Want To
Discuss It and feel that JLC should be left alone on the topic as well,
so I wouldn't advise asking about it over there.)
Robin the mad photographer (who feels bad for JLC having so many people
wondering about something she wouldn't have any control over anyway)
Finn
Rowan Mayfair <row...@innocent.com> wrote in message
news:373508BE...@innocent.com...
> Mahatma Kane Jeeves wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 8 May 1999 10:10:56 -0400 (EDT), lastan...@webtv.net wrote:
> > > Jamie Lee Curtis " : a hermaphrodite
> >
> > Could you elaborate on that? I followed a rather lengthy thread in one
of the
> > newsgroups a few years back where her condition was described in great
detail,
> > but have since forgotten the specifics. It had something to do with a
rare
> > chromosomal irregularity that made her a trifle androgynous, and
sterile.
>
husband
> (Christopher Guest) ?
>
Catty (a film bore)
xx
King...@pacbell.net
>
> King...@pacbell.net wrote:
>
> > One of the most ridiculous things I ever read about Judy Garland was
> > that she once left a suicide note stating that she wanted Joey and Lorna
> > to be left to Dirk Bogarde and Capucine. If so, she must have had a hell
> > of a laugh when the pills wore off.
> >
> > Gary
>
does with the role. I cannot imagine anyone nailing the character
however. Judy Garland was one of a kind. Inimitable.
> the TV movie of Lorna's book. Whaddya think? Actually, I can't think of
> anyone better.
>
Lauren
PRINCESSPK wrote:
George, himself, spoke of his infidelities. Once, he said, Gracie, (I think heIn the biography George wrote about Gracie (It's called Gracie: A Love Story, I believe, and has some neat pix if anyone is interested) he says that he never told her about the starlet, but felt extremely guilty, and bought her a new fur coat and a centerpiece. He didn't find out that she knew the reason until years after, when she made the casual comment about needing a centerpiece while shopping one day with a girlfriend.
said he called her Goo-Goo), caught him. After an elaborate appology, and
asking how he could make it up to her, she asked for jewelry, a coat, and a
sterling silver centrepiece. Some years later George overheard her telling one
of her friends about the affair, and the gifts, afterwards. The friend was
horrified and displayed 16 kinds of dismay, to which she responded with a kind
of casual dismissal, musing that if George did it again, she could use another
centrepiece.
fergi...@my-dejanews.com
sla...@paradise.net.nz (Toni) wrote:
> On Fri, 07 May 1999 19:53:04 -0700, mslinda <msl...@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
> >PeaceDove6 wrote:
>
> >> Diana Shore - was she gay?
>
then
> >she and ole Burt sure put on a helluva good show back in the early
70s.
>
> him. It was quite a scandal, but then she was looking good in her
> sixties.
At the time of Dinah's death I remember Burt saying
That she wanted to marry him, be he was not ready.
Later he said he wished he did. "She was the best
thing to ever happend to me and I didn't know it. I
was too busy screwing around".
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PRINCESSPK
<laur...@leland.stanford.edu> writes:
>
>In the biography George wrote about Gracie (It's called Gracie: A Love Story,
>I
>believe, and has some neat pix if anyone is interested) he says that he never
>told
>her about the starlet, but felt extremely guilty, and bought her a new fur
>coat
>and a centerpiece. He didn't find out that she knew the reason until years
>after,
>when she made the casual comment about needing a centerpiece while shopping
>one
>day with a girlfriend.
Ahh, that's it, dahling! I heard George tell the story, a few years ago, and
that is the best my mamory could do. I guess the KavaKava is working, teehee!
Reigning and Deigning
Pink Wishes
The Princess \^*^*^/
http://www.FacemakersIncorporated.com
Wendy Grossman
Chocola...@FrenchVanilla.com (Mahatma Kane Jeeves) usenetted:
> On Sat, 8 May 1999 10:10:56 -0400 (EDT), lastan...@webtv.net wrote:
> > Jamie Lee Curtis " : a hermaphrodite
>
> Could you elaborate on that? I followed a rather lengthy thread in one
> of the
> newsgroups a few years back where her condition was described in great d
> etail,
> but have since forgotten the specifics. It had something to do with a r
> are
> chromosomal irregularity that made her a trifle androgynous, and sterile
> . I
> don't recall anything about her being born with a penis, but it did expl
> ain her
> narrow hips, small breasts, and somewhat boyish looks.
>
Get new glasses and take another look. Short hair, yes, boyish figure,
no.
wg
ASGTP#063
Joyce
:)
JTMixer <jtm...@aol.combomeal> wrote in article
<19990513180334...@ng66.aol.com>...
> Laura wrote:
>
> >Then I think you should "quote" the post you're responding to. It helps
> >a lot considering your post fell in order of response after mine.
>
> Regardless if she had quoted the person she was responding to or not, it
was
> QUITE obvious that she wasn't referring to you. *AND*, chances are that
your
> post wasn't there when she read the other one that she WAS replying to.
Some
> newsreaders are slower than others at getting replies out.
>
> JT
>
Laura Betson
her? How would we know really?? :)
Laura
Oingobaby
>... maybe she was playing Snatch Game with Gene Rayburn?
>
>dar
This has to be one of the most funniest threads I read in a while. I'm crying
and dying with laughter. :^)
Suni
AntiSp...@webtv.net
perhaps a better staged name for Betty would have been Dick Van Dyke.
tootie fruitie
shocked!
Lewis Angel <ange...@email.msn.com> wrote in article
<emqdJ2Fl#GA.205@cpmsnbbsa03>...
> If Ellen Corby and Will Geer were both gay, then who were Ralph Waite's
real
> parents?
>
>
> <MikeC...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:1689-372...@newsd-111.bryant.webtv.net...
> . An obit on Ellen Corby mentioned a lady-friend of 45
> > years. Interesting, since Will Geer, who played her husband on "The
> > Waltons", was also gay.
> >
>
>
>
William Hubbard
tootie fruitie <bir...@wf.quik.com> wrote in article
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dlm
I love this thread. I think when it's over the number should be retired
or whatever honour would be possible to mark a grand thread.
Donna