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JFK Jr. is not a "true" Kennedy!

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the lord of the files

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magicbus@ wrote

>Steve, where did you learn this garbage?


Garbage is all it takes to fool 'Jesse Garon'. <wink>

CMc

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chelsea corazon wrote:
>
>
> Somewhere else in the thread, someone pointed out that actor/producer
> Chris Lawford, looks very similar to his father, Peter Lawford, which > I think is true. (Happened to catch a tv interview recently with
> Chris Lawford, in which he was publicizing a new film.) The post
> below is the first I've heard of any speculation about a JFK,
> Jr./Peter Lawford tie-in. It's anybody's guess, but the fact is: JFK, > Jr. looks nothing like a Kennedy. I'd read previously that he
> resembles Jackie's side of the family, particularly her father, John
> "Blackjack" Bouvier. who had dark hair and brown eyes. However-- as a > small child, I watched The Thin Man tv series, starring Peter Lawford, >and recall that when he took off his shirt (which was frequently, for >some reason) he had a |very| furry chest, which, of course, is true of >JFK, Jr. Photos, showing JFK, Sr., on his sailing vacations at >Hyannisport, show him to be nearly free of body/chest hair. >Additionally, JFK, Jr. has heavy eyebrows and a narrow-boned face/jaw, >which is not true of the Kennedys, but is true of Peter Lawford. >Interesting idea . . .

Good grief, of all the rumors, this is the craziest...Peter Lawford
happened to have dark hair and a furry chest...so does JFK...duh.
My husband has a furry chest, but I hardly think this is grounds for
a paternity test.

I think it was Vanity Fair magazine that recently did a big layout on
all the Kennedy kids of JFK's generation and their looks vary like any
large family's. They aren't clones of their parents. Genetics, even
within a family, are going to produce very different results. JFK
happens to favor his mother's side of the family, but he does have the
Kennedy chiseled jaw. He and Carolyn both have their mother's wide-set
eyes...in fact, Carolyn looks very much like her mother, but her
coloring is lighter.
>
> >
> >JSM1330 <jsm...@aol.com> wrote:
> >: Many people are wondering why JFK Jr. is bashing his Kennedy
> >: relatives, but the answer may be that JFK Jr. is not a "true"
> >: Kennedy. Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis stipulated in her will that her > >: personal diaries must remain sealed until after the deaths of both > >: her children, Caroline and JFK, Jr. - not HER death, mind you, but > >: BOTH of THEIR deaths. The reason is JFK Jr. is NOT John F.
> >: Kennedy's son, but is actually the result of a well-known affair
> >: between Jackie Kennedy and actor Peter Lawford. This fact will be
> >: revealed after the deaths of the Kennedy children, which may exceed > >: our lifetime!

You're forgetting that Jackie was an *extremely* private person. This is
one reason why she married Onassis because he could provide her with
the seclusion (and luxury!) which she needed. Her need for privacy would
naturally include the protection of her children after her death. It
may simply be that in the diaries she does reveal things from which she
would want to protect her children, but this does not give any
credibility to the rumor that JFK is not the son of JFK, Sr. In fact,
it may very well be that some of the things revealed would include the
political shenanigans of JFK Sr. If Jackie had hoped for JFK Jr to get
into politics, she would naturally not want anything his father had done
to reflect on the son.

> >: The physical resemblance between Peter Lawford and JFK Jr. is
> >: staggering. Caroline has the Kennedy facial and jaw features, but > >: this is not the case with JFK Jr. To see this uncanny father and > >: son resemblance, watch a movie of Lawford's, such as "Ocean's
> >: Eleven" with Frank Sinatra and Sammy Davis Jr. or "The Longest Day" > >: with John Wayne and Richard Burton.
> >: It is also strange that JFK Jr. dropped the "Jr." in his name not
> >: after the death of his father, which is usually the case, but
> >: instead shortly after his mother's death.

It isn't strange at all that JFK Jr. didn't drop the Jr. after the death
of his father as he was only around three years old when his dad died.

> >: JFK Jr. also maintains a close, personal relationship with
> >: Lawford's family, and has been often photographed with them.
> >: Lawford's closeness to the Kennedy clan is more than mere casual,
> >: since Lawford was also involved with the Kennedys when JFK was
> >: having an affair with Marilyn Monroe!
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> >Elaine Gallegos
> >sat...@primenet.com


Of course "Lawford's closeness to the Kennedy clan is more than mere
casual" because he married a Kennedy sister. JFK, Robert and Ted
were his brothers-in-law. Not surprising that JFK Jr. is still
fond of his relatives.


Signed....CMc

Elvis Aaron

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jsm...@aol.com (JSM1330) wrote:
> Many people are wondering why JFK Jr. is bashing his Kennedy
>relatives, but the answer may be that JFK Jr. is not a "true" Kennedy.
>Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis stipulated in her will that her personal
>diaries must remain sealed until after the deaths of both her children,
>Caroline and JFK, Jr. - not HER death, mind you, but BOTH of THEIR deaths.
> The reason is JFK Jr. is NOT John F. Kennedy's son, but is actually the
>result of a well-known affair between Jackie Kennedy and actor Peter
>Lawford. This fact will be revealed after the deaths of the Kennedy
>children, which may exceed our lifetime!
> The physical resemblance between Peter Lawford and JFK Jr. is
>staggering. Caroline has the Kennedy facial and jaw features, but this is
>not the case with JFK Jr. To see this uncanny father and son
>resemblance, watch a movie of Lawford's, such as "Ocean's Eleven" with
>Frank Sinatra and Sammy Davis Jr. or "The Longest Day" with John Wayne and
>Richard Burton.
> It is also strange that JFK Jr. dropped the "Jr." in his name not
>after the death of his father, which is usually the case, but instead
>shortly after his mother's death. Perhaps Jackie told her son of his true
>heritage and this is why the "Kennedy loyalty" is not as powerful as it
>has been in the past.
> JFK Jr. wanted to pursue a career in acting, not politics -
>something Jackie prevented. JFK Jr. also maintains a close, personal

>relationship with Lawford's family, and has been often photographed with
>them. Lawford's closeness to the Kennedy clan is more than mere casual,
>since Lawford was also involved with the Kennedys when JFK was having an
>affair with Marilyn Monroe! At the time of Monroe's death (suicide or
>plotted elimination), Lawford , Bobby Kennedy, and JFK were nearby- a
>strange coincidence. Lawford was willing to put himself and his career in
>jeopardy in order to protect JFK's privacy in the affair as well as his
>own with Jackie Kennedy.

Hmmm...how come then JFK jr has the same type of walk his JFK sr had? If
you look at old clips you can see they have the same type of walk. The
physique in the shoulder is also the same, look at old clips of a younger
thinner JFK and you see a very similar physique.


Bill

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Aug 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/12/97
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>
> jsm...@aol.com (JSM1330) wrote:
> > Many people are wondering why JFK Jr. is bashing his Kennedy
> >relatives, but the answer may be that JFK Jr. is not a "true" Kennedy.
> >Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis stipulated in her will that her personal
> >diaries must remain sealed until after the deaths of both her children,
> >Caroline and JFK, Jr. - not HER death, mind you, but BOTH of THEIR deaths.
> > The reason is JFK Jr. is NOT John F. Kennedy's son, but is actually the
> >result of a well-known affair between Jackie Kennedy and actor Peter
> >Lawford. This fact will be revealed after the deaths of the Kennedy
> >children, which may exceed our lifetime!

<balance snipped>

If you listen closely, you can hear the theme song from Twilight Zone
playing softly in the background... Interupted occasionally by the AOL
"You've Got Mail" voice.

Bill
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jsm...@aol.com (JSM1330) wrote:
> Many people are wondering why JFK Jr. is bashing his Kennedy
>relatives, but the answer may be that JFK Jr. is not a "true" Kennedy.
>Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis stipulated in her will that her personal
>diaries must remain sealed until after the deaths of both her children,
>Caroline and JFK, Jr. - not HER death, mind you, but BOTH of THEIR deaths.
> The reason is JFK Jr. is NOT John F. Kennedy's son, but is actually the
>result of a well-known affair between Jackie Kennedy and actor Peter
>Lawford. This fact will be revealed after the deaths of the Kennedy
>children, which may exceed our lifetime!

An interesting load of crap.

> The physical resemblance between Peter Lawford and JFK Jr. is
>staggering. Caroline has the Kennedy facial and jaw features, but this is
>not the case with JFK Jr. To see this uncanny father and son
>resemblance, watch a movie of Lawford's, such as "Ocean's Eleven" with
>Frank Sinatra and Sammy Davis Jr. or "The Longest Day" with John Wayne and
>Richard Burton.

And the physical resemblance between JFK Jr and JFK at a young age is
quite canny.

> It is also strange that JFK Jr. dropped the "Jr." in his name not
>after the death of his father, which is usually the case, but instead
>shortly after his mother's death. Perhaps Jackie told her son of his true
>heritage and this is why the "Kennedy loyalty" is not as powerful as it
>has been in the past.

Bullshit. Family is not determined by genes, but by who you grow up
with, love, etc. If my mother told me that my father was not my
biological father, that would not change one bit how I feel about my
father and his relatives.

> JFK Jr. wanted to pursue a career in acting, not politics -
>something Jackie prevented. JFK Jr. also maintains a close, personal
>relationship with Lawford's family, and has been often photographed with
>them.

Duh. Seeing how Lawford is his uncle, and his uncles kids are his
cousins, it's not surprising that he would spend time with them or be
photographed with them.

>Lawford's closeness to the Kennedy clan is more than mere casual,

At least it has been since he married JFK's, Bobby's and Teddy'
sister.

>since Lawford was also involved with the Kennedys when JFK was having an
>affair with Marilyn Monroe! At the time of Monroe's death (suicide or
>plotted elimination), Lawford , Bobby Kennedy, and JFK were nearby- a
>strange coincidence. Lawford was willing to put himself and his career in
>jeopardy in order to protect JFK's privacy in the affair as well as his
>own with Jackie Kennedy.

Why don't you use this creative thinking for something useful?

Chris

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jsm...@aol.com (JSM1330) writes:
> It is also strange that JFK Jr. dropped the "Jr." in his name not
>after the death of his father, which is usually the case, but instead
>shortly after his mother's death.

Remind me again how old JFKjr was when his daddy died, three or four?
Hardly an age when one might be expected to make such decisions. Why,
Sammy Davis never did get around to it, and I'm sure his daddy died.

> JFK Jr. wanted to pursue a career in acting, not politics -
>something Jackie prevented. JFK Jr. also maintains a close, personal
>relationship with Lawford's family, and has been often photographed with

>them. Lawford's closeness to the Kennedy clan is more than mere casual,

Given that he married into the family, this hardly comes as a shock.

"Jesse Garon": the God damnedest mass of tact known to the human race
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JSM1330

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Many people are wondering why JFK Jr. is bashing his Kennedy
relatives, but the answer may be that JFK Jr. is not a "true" Kennedy.
Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis stipulated in her will that her personal
diaries must remain sealed until after the deaths of both her children,
Caroline and JFK, Jr. - not HER death, mind you, but BOTH of THEIR deaths.
The reason is JFK Jr. is NOT John F. Kennedy's son, but is actually the
result of a well-known affair between Jackie Kennedy and actor Peter
Lawford. This fact will be revealed after the deaths of the Kennedy
children, which may exceed our lifetime!
The physical resemblance between Peter Lawford and JFK Jr. is
staggering. Caroline has the Kennedy facial and jaw features, but this is
not the case with JFK Jr. To see this uncanny father and son
resemblance, watch a movie of Lawford's, such as "Ocean's Eleven" with
Frank Sinatra and Sammy Davis Jr. or "The Longest Day" with John Wayne and
Richard Burton.
It is also strange that JFK Jr. dropped the "Jr." in his name not
after the death of his father, which is usually the case, but instead
shortly after his mother's death. Perhaps Jackie told her son of his true
heritage and this is why the "Kennedy loyalty" is not as powerful as it
has been in the past.
JFK Jr. wanted to pursue a career in acting, not politics -
something Jackie prevented. JFK Jr. also maintains a close, personal
relationship with Lawford's family, and has been often photographed with
them. Lawford's closeness to the Kennedy clan is more than mere casual,

Elaine Gallegos

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Aug 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/12/97
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Wow..bizarre enough to almost be true... It's especially wierd, as it is
obvious that John John really doesn't resemble JFK in the way that
Caroline does. John jr. does strongly resemble his mother however.
I dunno about the Lawford connection. I've seen Peter Lawford's son, and
his visage screams of his relationship to Peter. John jr.'s appearance
does not. I have to say, however, that John jr. looks no more like JFK
than Peter Lawford, however.

JSM1330 <jsm...@aol.com> wrote:
: Many people are wondering why JFK Jr. is bashing his Kennedy

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Elaine Gallegos

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Aug 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/13/97
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chelsea corazon <kare...@sirius.com> wrote:
: Somewhere else in the thread, someone pointed out that actor/producer
: Chris Lawford, looks very similar to his father, Peter Lawford, which I
: think is true.

We know for sure, at least that Chris Lawford is a REAL Kennedy. He has
the Kennedy look too. In fact, he looks sort of like his cousin, Maria
Shriver.

Jean W

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chelsea corazon wrote:
(space saving snips)
> .... It's anybody's guess, but the fact is: JFK, Jr. looks nothing

> like a Kennedy. I'd read previously that he resembles Jackie's side of
> the family, particularly her father, John "Blackjack" Bouvier. who had
> dark hair and brown eyes. However-- as a small child, I watched The Thin
> Man tv series, starring Peter Lawford, and recall that when he took off
> his shirt (which was frequently, for some reason) he had a |very| furry
> chest, which, of course, is true of JFK, Jr. Photos, showing JFK, Sr.,on
> his sailing vacations at Hyannisport, show him to be nearly free of body
> /chest hair. Additionally, JFK, Jr. has heavy eyebrows and a
> narrow-boned face/jaw, which is not true of the Kennedys, but is true of
> Peter Lawford. Interesting idea . . .
> chelsea

Does anyone know of a good Kennedy or Bouvier biography which includes
good pictures of JFK Jr.'s maternal grandparents? I've read a few which
have had some decent photos of Jackie's dad, Black Jack Bouvier, but it
appears her mom, Janet Lee, was rarely photographed. There are people
out there who look nothing like their father or their father's side of
the family; they got all their 'physical appearance' DNA from their mom
and mom's side.

Just checked a book out from the library called "Rose Kennedy and her
Family" by Barbara Gibson and Ted Schwarz. Really good book; dishes
some pretty good gossip and nasty little details about Kennedy life.
Not at all a whitewash of the Kennedy's, stating they were a large happy
family like some other authors have done.
One new thing in this book is the idea that Rosemary was not mentally
retarded at all. At most, she was learning disabled and severly
dyslexic. They have some pretty good facts to back up this theory.
Also, The authors imply that stories of Rosemary's violent temper
tantrums were made up just to add justification for the botched lobotomy
ordered by Joe Kennedy Sr.

Anyway, the authors state Peter Lawford had very limited use of one
hand, due to a childhood accident, and would always disguise the fact by
having his hand in his pocket or looped his left thumb in his belt. So,
in the movies, did you notice if Lawford took off his shirts with both
hands or mostly using one hand?

> p.s. still, I don't think JFK, Jr. is exactly "bashing" his Kennedy
> relatives-- more likely trying to give them a 'heads up'. His piece also
> castigates the media for hounding them.

That's what bothers me about the JFK Jr article. He scolds the media
for bashing his family and then does the exact same thing in his own
magazine.
What a hypocrite.

Jean

Jesse Garon

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Steve_H...@REMOVE-TO-MAIL-MEtrw.com (Yet Another Steve) writes:
>As a general rule, one is only a "Junior" so long as one's father, the
>"Senior" is still alive. Similarly, one is only a "3rd" (or, more grandly,
>"III") so long as one's GRANDFATHER is still alive. Upon the death of
>the senior possessor of the name, everybody moves up a notch. (This rule
>does not apply to kings and popes, but it does to just about everyone else.)

Except, of course, Sammy Davis. Thurston Howell, of course, wasn't a
real person, so although it seems unlikely that his grandfather was
alive at the time, he could still go by Thurston Howell III.

Cliff

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## it's also strange that JFK Jr dropped the Jr in his name not after
his father died, but after his mother died ##

That's very significant. It's a revelation about his relationship with
his mother. Bottom line: he didn't feel fully grown up (as a fully
functioning adult) and/or free from the (suffocating?) legacy of his
Father until after she died,

It indicates to me that Jackie and John-John's relationship may -- not
suprisingly -- have had some heavy strains.


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jsm...@aol.com (JSM1330) wrote:

>> The physical resemblance between Peter Lawford and JFK Jr. is
>>staggering. Caroline has the Kennedy facial and jaw features, but this is
>>not the case with JFK Jr. To see this uncanny father and son
>>resemblance, watch a movie of Lawford's, such as "Ocean's Eleven" with
>>Frank Sinatra and Sammy Davis Jr. or "The Longest Day" with John Wayne and
>>Richard Burton.

I think it's time you got a new pair of glasses sonny. Chris Lawford
is the spitting image of his father. Jr. looks nothing like Chris
Lawford. ERGO Jr does not look like Peter Lawford

>> JFK Jr. wanted to pursue a career in acting, not politics -
>>something Jackie prevented. JFK Jr. also maintains a close, personal
>>relationship with Lawford's family, and has been often photographed with
>>them. Lawford's closeness to the Kennedy clan is more than mere casual,
>>since Lawford was also involved with the Kennedys when JFK was having an
>>affair with Marilyn Monroe! At the time of Monroe's death (suicide or
>>plotted elimination), Lawford , Bobby Kennedy, and JFK were nearby- a
>>strange coincidence. Lawford was willing to put himself and his career in
>>jeopardy in order to protect JFK's privacy in the affair as well as his
>>own with Jackie Kennedy.
>
>

Besides, I thought Jackie slept with Bobby not Peter Lawford

Big fan of Conspiracy Theory aren't you?

Yet Another Steve

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In article <5srav5$5...@nntp02.primenet.com>, gri...@primenet.com ('Jesse
Garon') wrote:

> jsm...@aol.com (JSM1330) writes:
> > It is also strange that JFK Jr. dropped the "Jr." in his name not


> >after the death of his father, which is usually the case, but instead
> >shortly after his mother's death.
>

> Remind me again how old JFKjr was when his daddy died, three or four?
> Hardly an age when one might be expected to make such decisions. Why,
> Sammy Davis never did get around to it, and I'm sure his daddy died.

As a general rule, one is only a "Junior" so long as one's father, the
"Senior" is still alive. Similarly, one is only a "3rd" (or, more grandly,
"III") so long as one's GRANDFATHER is still alive. Upon the death of
the senior possessor of the name, everybody moves up a notch. (This rule
does not apply to kings and popes, but it does to just about everyone else.)

Still, I can see how he might have wanted to wait; the name "John F. Kennedy",
with no qualifiers, still meant only one person to most Americans.

Steve

michelle

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MarcusV wrote:
>
<snip>

> > Hmmm...how come then JFK jr has the same type of walk his JFK sr had? If
> > you look at old clips you can see they have the same type of walk. The
> > physique in the shoulder is also the same, look at old clips of a younger
> > thinner JFK and you see a very similar physique.
> Not true at all. JFK1 had a very bad back and very poor health. Spent
> years confined to bed as a child and had very poor health generally.
> All that "vigor" was PR hype by the Kennedy machine. As an adult he
> often walked with a cane.
>
> JFK2 has a completely different gate and none of the profound physical
> disabilities of JFK1.
>
I read sometime ago that JFK Jr. has a condition that's a precursor to
Addison's. He found out right after his mother's death.

--
Response to "Age before beauty"
"Pearls before swine."

--Dorothy Parker

jer

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Just to add to the speculation, there have been several pictures of John
that have had a remarkable resemblence to Onassis. Now before anyone yells
about how ugly Onassis was, remember all the references to John being a
"Greek God". Also, there have been several profile shots that bear a
striking resemblence to Ari. Add to that That Ari always had a fondness
for John. Through various circles this has been rumored for some time.There
has been talk that this was Jackie's revenge for all of JFK daliances, for
Ari was first involved with Jackie's sister Lee. So , if it was true, she
killed two birds with one stone.In the washington Press corp, there was
much talk about this, but after the assasination, it ceased. I first heard
this 20 some years ago, never believed it, but as the years go, I see that
this for me is a distinct possiblity.Is it true, probably not, is it
possible, yes.
I will now duck and cover, for I truly love lurking in this group!

Elaine Gallegos <sat...@primenet.com> wrote in article
<5sr9tc$5...@nntp02.primenet.com>...


> Wow..bizarre enough to almost be true... It's especially wierd, as it is
> obvious that John John really doesn't resemble JFK in the way that
> Caroline does. John jr. does strongly resemble his mother however.
> I dunno about the Lawford connection. I've seen Peter Lawford's son, and
> his visage screams of his relationship to Peter. John jr.'s appearance
> does not. I have to say, however, that John jr. looks no more like JFK
> than Peter Lawford, however.
>
>
>
> JSM1330 <jsm...@aol.com> wrote:
> : Many people are wondering why JFK Jr. is bashing his Kennedy
> : relatives, but the answer may be that JFK Jr. is not a "true" Kennedy.
> : Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis stipulated in her will that her personal
> : diaries must remain sealed until after the deaths of both her
children,
> : Caroline and JFK, Jr. - not HER death, mind you, but BOTH of THEIR
deaths.
> : The reason is JFK Jr. is NOT John F. Kennedy's son, but is actually
the
> : result of a well-known affair between Jackie Kennedy and actor Peter
> : Lawford. This fact will be revealed after the deaths of the Kennedy
> : children, which may exceed our lifetime!

> : The physical resemblance between Peter Lawford and JFK Jr. is


> : staggering. Caroline has the Kennedy facial and jaw features, but this
is
> : not the case with JFK Jr. To see this uncanny father and son
> : resemblance, watch a movie of Lawford's, such as "Ocean's Eleven" with
> : Frank Sinatra and Sammy Davis Jr. or "The Longest Day" with John Wayne
and
> : Richard Burton.

> : It is also strange that JFK Jr. dropped the "Jr." in his name not


> : after the death of his father, which is usually the case, but instead

> : shortly after his mother's death. Perhaps Jackie told her son of his
true
> : heritage and this is why the "Kennedy loyalty" is not as powerful as it
> : has been in the past.

> : JFK Jr. wanted to pursue a career in acting, not politics -


> : something Jackie prevented. JFK Jr. also maintains a close, personal
> : relationship with Lawford's family, and has been often photographed
with
> : them. Lawford's closeness to the Kennedy clan is more than mere casual,
> : since Lawford was also involved with the Kennedys when JFK was having
an
> : affair with Marilyn Monroe! At the time of Monroe's death (suicide or
> : plotted elimination), Lawford , Bobby Kennedy, and JFK were nearby- a
> : strange coincidence. Lawford was willing to put himself and his career
in
> : jeopardy in order to protect JFK's privacy in the affair as well as his
> : own with Jackie Kennedy.
>

> --
>
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>

Bill

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MarcusV corrected spelling as follows:
> <industrial strength snipping>

> > JFK2 has a completely different gate and none of the profound physical
> > disabilities of JFK1.
> >

>
> That's GAIT, not "gate".
> Not necessarily.... Close scrutiny of the gate at JFK2's indicate it
looks nothing like that of JFK1's... Also, JFK1 kept his gate open to
most every bimbo, where JFK2 is a tad more selective.

ka...@delphi.com

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Cliff <MacPh...@webtv.net> writes:

>## it's also strange that JFK Jr dropped the Jr in his name not after
>his father died, but after his mother died ##
>
>That's very significant. It's a revelation about his relationship with
>his mother. Bottom line: he didn't feel fully grown up (as a fully
>functioning adult) and/or free from the (suffocating?) legacy of his
>Father until after she died,
>

.
I don't recall him EVER calling himself JFK Jr -- any time I ever
heard him introduce himself on tv it was as John Kennedy -- and
I believe at college he was also listed as John Kennedy in
drama productions, etc.
.
kassa (interesting theory, though)

MarcusV

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MarcusV wrote:
>
> Elvis Aaron wrote:

> >
> > jsm...@aol.com (JSM1330) wrote:
> > > Many people are wondering why JFK Jr. is bashing his Kennedy
> > >relatives, but the answer may be that JFK Jr. is not a "true" Kennedy.
> > >Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis stipulated in her will that her personal
> > >diaries must remain sealed until after the deaths of both her children,
> > >Caroline and JFK, Jr. - not HER death, mind you, but BOTH of THEIR deaths.
> > > The reason is JFK Jr. is NOT John F. Kennedy's son, but is actually the
> > >result of a well-known affair between Jackie Kennedy and actor Peter
> > >Lawford. This fact will be revealed after the deaths of the Kennedy
> > >children, which may exceed our lifetime!
> > > The physical resemblance between Peter Lawford and JFK Jr. is
> > >staggering. Caroline has the Kennedy facial and jaw features, but this is
> > >not the case with JFK Jr. To see this uncanny father and son
> > >resemblance, watch a movie of Lawford's, such as "Ocean's Eleven" with
> > >Frank Sinatra and Sammy Davis Jr. or "The Longest Day" with John Wayne and
> > >Richard Burton.
> > > It is also strange that JFK Jr. dropped the "Jr." in his name not

> > >after the death of his father, which is usually the case, but instead
> > >shortly after his mother's death. Perhaps Jackie told her son of his true
> > >heritage and this is why the "Kennedy loyalty" is not as powerful as it
> > >has been in the past.
> > > JFK Jr. wanted to pursue a career in acting, not politics -
> > >something Jackie prevented. JFK Jr. also maintains a close, personal
> > >relationship with Lawford's family, and has been often photographed with
> > >them. Lawford's closeness to the Kennedy clan is more than mere casual,
> > >since Lawford was also involved with the Kennedys when JFK was having an
> > >affair with Marilyn Monroe! At the time of Monroe's death (suicide or
> > >plotted elimination), Lawford , Bobby Kennedy, and JFK were nearby- a
> > >strange coincidence. Lawford was willing to put himself and his career in
> > >jeopardy in order to protect JFK's privacy in the affair as well as his
> > >own with Jackie Kennedy.
> >
> > Hmmm...how come then JFK jr has the same type of walk his JFK sr had? If
> > you look at old clips you can see they have the same type of walk. The
> > physique in the shoulder is also the same, look at old clips of a younger
> > thinner JFK and you see a very similar physique.
> Not true at all. JFK1 had a very bad back and very poor health. Spent
> years confined to bed as a child and had very poor health generally.
> All that "vigor" was PR hype by the Kennedy machine. As an adult he
> often walked with a cane.
>
> JFK2 has a completely different gate and none of the profound physical
> disabilities of JFK1.
>
> Regards

That's GAIT, not "gate".

Regards

michelle

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MarcusV wrote:
>
<snip>

> > Hmmm...how come then JFK jr has the same type of walk his JFK sr had? If
> > you look at old clips you can see they have the same type of walk. The
> > physique in the shoulder is also the same, look at old clips of a younger
> > thinner JFK and you see a very similar physique.
> Not true at all. JFK1 had a very bad back and very poor health. Spent
> years confined to bed as a child and had very poor health generally.
> All that "vigor" was PR hype by the Kennedy machine. As an adult he
> often walked with a cane.
>
> JFK2 has a completely different gate and none of the profound physical
> disabilities of JFK1.
>
I read sometime ago that JFK Jr. has a disease that's a precursor to

the lord of the files

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kassa:

>I don't recall him ever introducing himself as JFK, jr.


I know several people that met JFK, jr. in person before '94. He
introduced himself as "John, Jr."

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On Sunday, August 10, 1997 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, CMc wrote:
> chelsea corazon wrote:
> >
> >
> > Somewhere else in the thread, someone pointed out that actor/producer
> > Chris Lawford, looks very similar to his father, Peter Lawford, which > I think is true. (Happened to catch a tv interview recently with
> > Chris Lawford, in which he was publicizing a new film.) The post
> > below is the first I've heard of any speculation about a JFK,
> > Jr./Peter Lawford tie-in. It's anybody's guess, but the fact is: JFK, > Jr. looks nothing like a Kennedy. I'd read previously that he
> > resembles Jackie's side of the family, particularly her father, John
> > "Blackjack" Bouvier. who had dark hair and brown eyes. However-- as a > small child, I watched The Thin Man tv series, starring Peter Lawford, >and recall that when he took off his shirt (which was frequently, for >some reason) he had a |very| furry chest, which, of course, is true of >JFK, Jr. Photos, showing JFK, Sr., on his sailing vacations at >Hyannisport, show him to be nearly free of body/chest hair. >Additionally, JFK, Jr. has heavy eyebrows and a narrow-boned face/jaw, >which is not true of the Kennedys, but is true of Peter Lawford. >Interesting idea . . .
>
> Good grief, of all the rumors, this is the craziest...Peter Lawford
> happened to have dark hair and a furry chest...so does JFK...duh.
> My husband has a furry chest, but I hardly think this is grounds for
> a paternity test.
>
> I think it was Vanity Fair magazine that recently did a big layout on
> all the Kennedy kids of JFK's generation and their looks vary like any
> large family's. They aren't clones of their parents. Genetics, even
> within a family, are going to produce very different results. JFK
> happens to favor his mother's side of the family, but he does have the
> Kennedy chiseled jaw. He and Carolyn both have their mother's wide-set
> eyes...in fact, Carolyn looks very much like her mother, but her
> coloring is lighter.
> >
> > >
> > >JSM1330 <jsm...@aol.com> wrote:
> > >: Many people are wondering why JFK Jr. is bashing his Kennedy
> > >: relatives, but the answer may be that JFK Jr. is not a "true"
> > >: Kennedy. Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis stipulated in her will that her > >: personal diaries must remain sealed until after the deaths of both > >: her children, Caroline and JFK, Jr. - not HER death, mind you, but > >: BOTH of THEIR deaths. The reason is JFK Jr. is NOT John F.
> > >: Kennedy's son, but is actually the result of a well-known affair
> > >: between Jackie Kennedy and actor Peter Lawford. This fact will be
> > >: revealed after the deaths of the Kennedy children, which may exceed > >: our lifetime!
>
> You're forgetting that Jackie was an *extremely* private person. This is
> one reason why she married Onassis because he could provide her with
> the seclusion (and luxury!) which she needed. Her need for privacy would
> naturally include the protection of her children after her death. It
> may simply be that in the diaries she does reveal things from which she
> would want to protect her children, but this does not give any
> credibility to the rumor that JFK is not the son of JFK, Sr. In fact,
> it may very well be that some of the things revealed would include the
> political shenanigans of JFK Sr. If Jackie had hoped for JFK Jr to get
> into politics, she would naturally not want anything his father had done
> to reflect on the son.
>
> > >: The physical resemblance between Peter Lawford and JFK Jr. is
> > >: staggering. Caroline has the Kennedy facial and jaw features, but > >: this is not the case with JFK Jr. To see this uncanny father and > >: son resemblance, watch a movie of Lawford's, such as "Ocean's
> > >: Eleven" with Frank Sinatra and Sammy Davis Jr. or "The Longest Day" > >: with John Wayne and Richard Burton.
> > >: It is also strange that JFK Jr. dropped the "Jr." in his name not
> > >: after the death of his father, which is usually the case, but
> > >: instead shortly after his mother's death.
>
> It isn't strange at all that JFK Jr. didn't drop the Jr. after the death
> of his father as he was only around three years old when his dad died.
>
> > >: JFK Jr. also maintains a close, personal relationship with
> > >: Lawford's family, and has been often photographed with them.
> > >: Lawford's closeness to the Kennedy clan is more than mere casual,
> > >: since Lawford was also involved with the Kennedys when JFK was
> > >: having an affair with Marilyn Monroe!
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> > >Elaine Gallegos
> > >sat...@primenet.com
>
>
> Of course "Lawford's closeness to the Kennedy clan is more than mere

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We will never know the truth, as JFK JR was cremated which is a little unusal for a devote catholic family like the kennedy's to do.

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<< isn't it true that all of the kennedy tabloid publishings supposed to create discourse over whether or not such as printed were true?

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Dear whoever paid you to do this,
JFK Jr. was clearly Peter Lawford's son because he was planning on dismantling the CIA with Ford's Executive Order 11905. This is clearly an MKUltra doing, being Marilyn Monroe was the first MKUltra spy sex kitten with an extremely high IQ. The fact that his last name was LAW FORD should have tipped someone off but I guess you'd have to have been exposed to their Fort Detrick Pentagon funded f'd up program in order to know this. The fact that part of his brain was missing would tell me the skulls and bones society associated with the CIA (descendants of the Mayflower like Robert Cook and George Bush), probably made ADRENOCHROME with it and GOT HIGH. IF you don't know, stop harassing people. People have died for this shit and you should be first on the list for spreading rumours about a man who clearly was a threat to the CIA, and George W. Bush's Plan for Paxa Americana the f-head has been planning for decades and has been successful thanks to Huma Abedin starting ISIL and Hilary creating MOSSAD to create wars they can fight in in order to profit through their companies like the Carlyle Group, that got hit in the 9/11 attacks by the way just when Osama pulled out his funding, the company went public and they were awarded a BIG HUGE JUICY CONTRACT BY THE US GOVERNMENT. FU.

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