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Lili2

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Dec 8, 2002, 4:26:06 PM12/8/02
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NY DAILY NEWS....MICHAEL GROSS

Beauty may fade, but modeling sex scandals endure. Tomorrow morning, the past
will bite John Casablancas, the founder of Elite Models and, arguably, the man
who has bedded more of them than anyone on Earth.


The Word has heard from the plaintiff's lawyer that papers will be filed in
California in a suit - Jane Doe v. John Casablancas and Elite Model Management
- charging that in 1988, he seduced the plaintiff when she was a 15-year-old
aspiring model, impregnated her, and then manipulated her into having an
abortion. The suit will seek "substantial" damages.


According to the lawyer, the suit alleges that Casablancas, then 45, invited
the girl to his hotel room during an Elite model competition in Japan. There,
she found him wearing nothing but a robe and let him have sex with her several
times. Then he gave her a kimono, T-shirt and jean jacket. After a second tryst
in Brazil, she became pregnant, and another Elite official arranged and paid
for an abortion.


"The b---- deserves to have his dirty laundry out there for the whole world to
see," the alleged victim told The Word.


The name of the model, now 30, married with two children and living in San
Diego, is being withheld. "The law protects victims," explains one of her
lawyers, Jeffrey R. Anderson, who's been suing Catholic dioceses and officials
over the sexual abuse of children by priests for 20 years, winning judgments he
estimates to be in excess of $60 million. He also helped draft the new
California statute that lets victims sue years after alleged abuse.


"I have proof," the plaintiff wrote to The Word. "I can name names, dates,
places and every single person that covered up his behavior. The doctor I was
sent to is still in business."


Casablancas calls the allegations "very disturbing," adding that he believes
they're designed "to exploit" the new California law "directed at the Catholic
Church scandals" and has "nothing in common with the modeling profession or
with anything related to me." He also maintains that California has no legal
jurisdiction in the matter and charges that the allegations are fabricated and
"driven by greed."


maryanne kehoe

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Dec 8, 2002, 7:47:37 PM12/8/02
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I wonder what Stephanie Seymour would have to say about this----the
actions of Casablancas in *this* case sound like what he did to
Stephanie when she was around that age!!

Tangled Up In Green

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Dec 8, 2002, 11:44:59 PM12/8/02
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li...@aol.com (Lili2) wrote in article
<20021208162606...@mb-fv.aol.com> :

Well, the ages of consent in Brazil & Japan are below 15, so maybe she
should sue Mommy & Daddy for letting her travel to foreign countries as
an "aspiring model" when she was 15.

Geezus.

>
>
>"The b---- deserves to have his dirty laundry out there for the whole
world to
>see," the alleged victim told The Word.

*LOL*

I think she's regressed since 15.


Hugs,
Janice

RGC

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Dec 9, 2002, 12:18:41 AM12/9/02
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Is this Stephanie Seymour? What are the ages of consent in Japan and
Brazil? Obviously they are much younger than in the US. I hope John
wouldn't be stupid enough to engage in his pedophile behavior in the
United States.


li...@aol.com (Lili2) wrote in message news:<20021208162606...@mb-fv.aol.com>...

Glen Robertson

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Dec 9, 2002, 12:59:49 AM12/9/02
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Excellent point ! What we're her parents thinking and the age of consent in
many foreign countries is much lower then the USA
"Tangled Up In Green" <TheV...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Predatory Rock Chick

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Dec 9, 2002, 12:49:26 AM12/9/02
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bell_t...@yahoo.com (RGC) wrote in article
<4470e3b7.02120...@posting.google.com> :
>Is this Stephanie Seymour?

*LOL*

Of course not.

SS is around 35, & she's not THIS pathetic. It's obviously a former
wannabe who didn't make the grade, & is looking for $$$ now.

Leave it to CA ...

>What are the ages of consent in Japan and
>Brazil?

I think it's like *13* in Japan.

>Obviously they are much younger than in the US. I hope John
>wouldn't be stupid enough to engage in his pedophile behavior in the
>United States.

Screwing a 15 y/o is *not* pedophilia.

Heck, 15 y/o's can still be legally married in some states, can't
they......?!


Hugs,
Janice

--

"Justine never knew the rules
Hung down with the freaks and ghouls
No apologies ever need be made
I know you better than you fake it"

----------------------------
(-)> *peep* (-)> *peep* (-)> *muckmouth*

Jim Shaffer, Jr.

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Dec 9, 2002, 5:54:58 PM12/9/02
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On Sun, 8 Dec 2002 22:44:59 -0600 (CST), TheV...@webtv.net (Tangled Up In
Green) wrote:

>Well, the ages of consent in Brazil & Japan are below 15, so maybe she
>should sue Mommy & Daddy for letting her travel to foreign countries as
>an "aspiring model" when she was 15.

And I thought the statute of limitations pretty much anywhere in the USA was 7
years. Am I misinformed?


Paulena

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Dec 9, 2002, 7:49:33 PM12/9/02
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"maryanne kehoe" <atl...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:9475-3DF...@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net...

> I wonder what Stephanie Seymour would have to say about this----the
> actions of Casablancas in *this* case sound like what he did to
> Stephanie when she was around that age!!
>

Except she was a willing participant and benefitted greatly from it. Didn't
someone say her family was trailer trash and her mom even encouraged the
tryst?


maryanne kehoe

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Dec 10, 2002, 8:29:36 PM12/10/02
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>From: Pau...@att.net (Paulena)

I think even if the relationship was consentual, statutory rape charges
still could be filed.

Does anyone remember the case of Katya Sassoon (Vidal Sassoon's
daughter), that got married at 15 (?), and Beverly and Vidal tried to
get the guy arrested on said stautory rape charges and have the marriage
annulled?

Paulena

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Dec 10, 2002, 9:01:00 PM12/10/02
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"maryanne kehoe" <atl...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:9475-3DF...@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net...
> Does anyone remember the case of Katya


Whatever happened to Katya. Didn't she die of a drug overdose?


Plead the 5th

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Dec 11, 2002, 11:41:42 AM12/11/02
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As far as I'm concerned, ANY country or state government that pass such
young "age of consent" laws must have deep rooted desires, or have sex
with young kids themselves. 21 yrs of age, for me is considered
mature.I've seen shows with young teens who "legally" marry adult men.
Everyone of these girls are severely immature, needy and clueless. Tisk
Tisk shaking head, BG

RGC

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Dec 13, 2002, 9:30:42 PM12/13/02
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Strok...@webtv.net (Predatory Rock Chick) wrote in message news:<4795-3DF...@storefull-2275.public.lawson.webtv.net>...

> bell_t...@yahoo.com (RGC) wrote in article
> <4470e3b7.02120...@posting.google.com> :
> >Is this Stephanie Seymour?
>
> *LOL*
>
> Of course not.
>
> SS is around 35, & she's not THIS pathetic. It's obviously a former
> wannabe who didn't make the grade, & is looking for $$$ now.
>
> Leave it to CA ...
>
> >What are the ages of consent in Japan and
> >Brazil?
>
> I think it's like *13* in Japan.
>
> >Obviously they are much younger than in the US. I hope John
> >wouldn't be stupid enough to engage in his pedophile behavior in the
> >United States.
>
> Screwing a 15 y/o is *not* pedophilia.

Can you get any more pathetic. How stupid can you be? Screwing a 15
yr old IS pedophilia if you're a 45 yr. old man.

Big J

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Dec 13, 2002, 9:43:42 PM12/13/02
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bell_t...@yahoo.com (RGC) wrote in
news:4470e3b7.02121...@posting.google.com:

> Strok...@webtv.net (Predatory Rock Chick) wrote in message
> news:<4795-3DF...@storefull-2275.public.lawson.webtv.net>...
>> bell_t...@yahoo.com (RGC) wrote in article
>> <4470e3b7.02120...@posting.google.com> :
>> >Is this Stephanie Seymour?
>>
>> *LOL*
>>
>> Of course not.
>>
>> SS is around 35, & she's not THIS pathetic. It's obviously a former
>> wannabe who didn't make the grade, & is looking for $$$ now.
>>
>> Leave it to CA ...
>>
>> >What are the ages of consent in Japan and
>> >Brazil?
>>
>> I think it's like *13* in Japan.
>>
>> >Obviously they are much younger than in the US. I hope John
>> >wouldn't be stupid enough to engage in his pedophile behavior in the
>> >United States.
>>
>> Screwing a 15 y/o is *not* pedophilia.
>
> Can you get any more pathetic. How stupid can you be? Screwing a 15
> yr old IS pedophilia if you're a 45 yr. old man.

No it is not. It may be disgusting to some and it may be illegal in some
states. But it is not pedophilia.

Pedophilia is about attraction to children. As in no tits, no pubic hair, no
puberty. Get it? A very different thing than wanting young but past puberty
girls.

In some states, the man would be guilty of statutory rape. He may even have
to register as a sex offender. But he isn't a pedophiliac.

Big J

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Predatory Rock Chick

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Dec 14, 2002, 1:25:30 AM12/14/02
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Leslie's stalker wrote:

>> >Is this Stephanie Seymour?
>>
>> *LOL*
>>
>> Of course not.
>>
>> SS is around 35, & she's not THIS pathetic. It's obviously a former
>> wannabe who didn't make the grade, & is looking for $$$ now.
>>
>> Leave it to CA ...
>>
>> >What are the ages of consent in Japan and
>> >Brazil?
>>
>> I think it's like *13* in Japan.
>>
>> >Obviously they are much younger than in the US. I hope John
>> >wouldn't be stupid enough to engage in his pedophile behavior in the
>> >United States.
>>
>> Screwing a 15 y/o is *not* pedophilia.
>
>Can you get any more pathetic. How
>stupid can you be?

Seems to be what everyone's wondering about you, Bebe.

>Screwing a 15
>yr old IS pedophilia if you're a 45 yr. old
>man.

*LOL*

So, how does his age reverse her puberty?!


Curious hugs,

E Varden

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Dec 14, 2002, 1:23:31 PM12/14/02
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Big J wrote:
>
> bell_t...@yahoo.com (RGC) wrote in
>.
.

.
> >>
> >> Screwing a 15 y/o is *not* pedophilia.
> >
> > Can you get any more pathetic. How stupid can you be? Screwing a 15
> > yr old IS pedophilia if you're a 45 yr. old man.
>
> No it is not. It may be disgusting to some and it may be illegal in some
> states. But it is not pedophilia.
>
> Pedophilia is about attraction to children. As in no tits, no pubic hair, no
> puberty. Get it? A very different thing than wanting young but past puberty
> girls.
>


You are correrct, J. The dividing line is puberty. Pedophilia
before, hebephilia after (as in: attraction to adolescents).

Nor are pedophiles or hebephiles necessarily molesters: (philia =
love of)

This site will help:

http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html


For examples of hebephilia in beautiful (innocent) form, check out
the books/photographs by David Hamilton (at your bookstore and
library):

<http://www.photogybooks.com/cocoon/photogybooks/2050_1854102664_book.html>


For examples of pedophilia in beautiful (innocent) form, read the
works of the Reverend Charles Dodgson (Lewis Carrol), and see his
photography:

http://www.people.virginia.edu/~bhs2u/carroll/ela-1.html

Pe -- who realizes it is difficult to consider "pedophilia" in any
form but ugly...but there you have it. What you think it is,
doesn't make it so. Think of Humpty Dumpty:

"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone,
"it means just what I choose it to mean--neither more nor less."

"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean do
many different things."

"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be
master--that's
all."

See? It's a bigger subject than you knew. And you - like Humpty -
are not master of the meaning. It pre-exists your assumptions and
prejudices.

---
BTW, "Alice" in his books refer to the real Alice Liddell, subject
of some of his photos.

Movie recommendation: "Dreamchild" -- a biography Of Alice, (an
octagenarian at the time of filming) with her observations on
Dodgson.

http://us.imdb.com/Title?0089052

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