Madonna's 11 abortions and how she trapped Guy Ritchie
Lili2
MADONNA would be the mother of 13 children if she hadn't had 11 abortions over
the years, according to "Goddess," an unauthorized biography by Barbara Victor
out next month from HarperCollins.
One abortion came right before Madonna met her hubby, Guy Ritchie. "She had a
pregnancy in between Lourdes and Rocco," Victor told PAGE SIX. "It was with a
British man," she added, refusing to name him until the book comes out. After
the 11th abortion, Madonna met Ritchie and pursued him relentlessly - calling
him every 20 minutes one night during a dinner party held by Sting's wife,
Trudie Styler.
Although Ritchie was "mesmerized" by Madonna in the beginning, "he had no
intention of being a one-woman man," Victor said. But when Madonna became
pregnant, Ritchie decided to settle down on his father, John Ritchie's advice.
"Guy initially stormed out of the house [when she told him she was pregnant]
and went to tell his father, whom he's quite close with," Victor said. "His
father told him, 'If this is your baby, you have to do the right thing [and
support the baby].' "
Not that Ritchie's dad, or his mother, Lady Amber Leighton, approve of Madonna.
"Amber said that Guy got sucked up so quickly into Madonna's fantasy world that
he didn't know what hit him," one Ritchie family friend told Victor.
Another Ritchie pal added: "They believed that Madonna deliberately got
pregnant. This was not some teenage girl who didn't know how to use birth
control!"
But, Victor - an investigative reporter who has covered the Middle East for
U.S. News & World Report, and whose research included interviews with Madonna's
maternal grandmother, father, siblings and ex-lovers - said that when Madonna
and Ritchie announced they were getting married, his well-to-do parents were
"shocked."
"They always envisioned he would marry someone more proper. They looked down on
her because she is in show business, was 10 years older than him, and
pregnant." After the wedding, Ritchie's father is said to have warmed to
Madonna because of Rocco, but Lady Amber is still frosty.
Andrew Morton also has a bio of the queen of pop due out this year, but Victor
notes that she had exclusive access to Madonna's family.
Liz Rosenberg, who came out of her "early Madonna retirement" to defend her
ex-client's honor, said, "The abortion issue is completely untrue. That she
tricked Guy into marrying her is ridiculous. This is a love match, period. I
was at the wedding and everyone got along beautifully."
Despite the denials, a HarperCollins rep said Victor's book had been thoroughly
vetted by lawyers.
Callen Molenda
> On 10 Oct 2001 06:38:09 GMT, li...@aol.com (Lili2) wrote:
>
> >NY POST...PAGE 6
> >
> >MADONNA would be the mother of 13 children if she hadn't had 11 abortions over
> >the years, according to "Goddess," an unauthorized biography by Barbara Victor
> >out next month from HarperCollins.
>
> I was under the impression that after a certain number of abortions
> (significantly less than 11!), a woman either can't get pregnant or
> can't carry to term. Anyone know if this is true?
The more pregnancies one has the more difficult/dangerous it becomes. Whether or not those
pregnancies end in abortion has nothing to do with it, assuming the gyn involved is competent.
Callen
Dan Anson
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Shulamith707
What's bizarre is that she wouldn't be more careful.
Parterrebox
would unearth this sort of information without putting the abortion provider(s)
at risk of lawsuit from Madonna for breach of doctor-patient confidentiality.
Second, more to the point surely. Given that Madonna has been sexually acitve
for the past 20 years, pregnancy requires unprotected sex. I find it hard to
believe that as smart a cookie as Madonna slipped up over 11 times in 20 years.
My guess here is that a number of times Madonna may have hinted to friends she
was pregnant and then actually was not. Or she may have had a miscarriage or
two. But 11 abortions? Weird.
"Trapped" is such a '50s concept, don't you think? Was Mr. Ritchie under the
age of consent when he met Madonna?
Mktgjem
>age of consent when he met Madonna?
>
Both are guilty. If a women "traps" a man into marrying her by getting
pregnant then she deserves him and never knowing if he would have married her
otherwise. If a man is stupid enough not to use birth control, he deserves
being "trapped." Perfect Match.
Callen Molenda
That is, assuming this story is true. I find it hard to believe that someone who
is as concerned with physical fitness and health as Madonna presents herself to
be would be so careless as to find herself in this situation so many times.
Callen, no fan of Madonna, but still...
Robert Matthews
Callen Molenda <ac...@virginia.edu> wrote:
Look, I'm not a doctor or anything, but...are you sure of this? Really
sure? Because it seems to me that the *first* one would be the most dangerous
and difficult. After all, that's when you find out if you actually can even
bring a baby to term; that the uterus works, and the pelvis is wide enough to
permit delivery, and all those other things that a healthy delivery depend on.
Conversely, as a woman gives birth to more children, you'd think it would become
easier; the body would be increasingly able to handle the experience. (I read
one description of I think a woman's seventh or eighth childbirth, and the
midwife doing the delivery said the baby "slipped out like a seal"--presumably
the same sort of thing Monty Python was making fun of in "The Meaning of Life"
in which a woman is standing doing dishes and the baby just drops out of her
onto the floor--"Get that one, would ya, Dierdre?")
And I know a guy who's the youngest of *twenty-four* children. (Yeah,
Catholic.) You're saying that each of those pregnancies got progressively
harder, more perilous, riskier for the mother?
Does anybody have any stats on this?
Robert Matthews
Callen Molenda
Well, I'm as sure of it as working for an OB/Gyn who also performed abortions could
make me. The doctor in question said that the greater the number of pregnancies,
whether ending in live birth or abortion, the greater the possibility that the body
would have a harder time carrying the next pregnancy to term. This is not the same
as the pregnancy being riskier for the mother; I am aware that women who have had
several births often have a much easier gestation and quicker and easier delivery.
But who knows. He could have just affirmed this as a way to console those women who
were afraid that an abortion would cause them to lose the ability to carry a normal
pregnancy to term.
Callen
Guy Bannis
<ac...@virginia.edu> wrote:
> That is, assuming this story is true. I find it hard to believe that
someone who
> is as concerned with physical fitness and health as Madonna presents
herself to
> be would be so careless as to find herself in this situation so many times.
But physical fitness may not have anything to do with sexual image. Think
of all the hot gay men who've died of AIDS. How secure is the real
Madonna? Maybe her physical fitness, and new looks over the years, tell us
that her self-image isn't that strong.
Ann
Lili2 wrote:
> NY POST...PAGE 6
>
> MADONNA would be the mother of 13 children if she hadn't had 11 abortions over
> the years, according to "Goddess," an unauthorized biography by Barbara Victor
> out next month from HarperCollins.
> <snip>
> Another Ritchie pal added: "They believed that Madonna deliberately got
> pregnant. This was not some teenage girl who didn't know how to use birth
> control!"
Did I see a contradiction here??
> But, Victor - an investigative reporter who has covered the Middle East for
> U.S. News & World Report, and whose research included interviews with Madonna's
> maternal grandmother, father, siblings and ex-lovers -
An investigative reporter or a bimbo who's trying to catch her 15 minutes of fame
by making sleazy allegation against a pop star?
The Original Gumby D!
Jeff Kirk
news:20011010023809...@mb-dd.aol.com:
> Despite the denials, a HarperCollins rep said Victor's book had been
> thoroughly vetted by lawyers.
Hmmm. And HarperCollins is indeed a reputable publisher. Madge, you dirty
little minx you. :)
Jeff
Jeff Kirk
news:3BC4539F...@virginia.edu:
>> I was under the impression that after a certain number of abortions
>> (significantly less than 11!), a woman either can't get pregnant or
>> can't carry to term. Anyone know if this is true?
>
> The more pregnancies one has the more difficult/dangerous it becomes.
> Whether or not those pregnancies end in abortion has nothing to do with
> it, assuming the gyn involved is competent.
>
> Callen
So after 11 abortions she still managed to have two kids, one while well
into her 40s? Wow, that chick's got an impressive set of ovaries! (Of
course, I've also heard she may have had a little ... help in that area.)
Jeff
Jeff Kirk
news:20011010111105...@mb-ch.aol.com:
> On the face of this I find it hard to believe: first, how in the world
> one would unearth this sort of information without putting the abortion
> provider(s) at risk of lawsuit from Madonna for breach of
> doctor-patient confidentiality.
I would guess that this info had to have come from a "close friend" or
estranged family member who would be in the know.
> "Trapped" is such a '50s concept, don't you think? Was Mr. Ritchie
> under the age of consent when he met Madonna?
Of *course* he was trapped! Gorgeous young director with a hit movie under
his belt ... poor thing would *never* have found another girl.
Jeff
Jeff Kirk
news:20011010121342...@mb-md.aol.com:
Why is it the man's responsibility to use birth control? She could have
told him she was on the pill.
Jeff
MLYoung
Why isn't it?
--margaret
Guy Bannis
<jkau...@DESPAMIFYyahoo.com> wrote:
> Why is it the man's responsibility to use birth control? She could have
> told him she was on the pill.
>
> Jeff
True. Considering who bears most of the burden of pregnancy, women should
have extra incentive.
maryanne kehoe
She had 2 abortions when she was a student at the University of Michigan
(one of the pregnancies was by her dance teacher).
Dirty Walker, Funky Talker
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Jeff Kirk
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>>Why is it the man's responsibility to use birth control?
>
> Why isn't it?
>
> --margaret
Let me rephrase that: why is it the man's *sole* responsibility to use birth
control? And like I said before, she could have misled him by telling him
falsely that she was on the pill. Hypothetically speaking.
Jeff
Galawag
whether the woman is on the Pill or not.
AND Madonna can't be so stupid as to get knocked up unintentionally 13 times
(remember her two live crotch critters were "accidents" so she claims)...I
think those numbers are exaggerated. If this it is true, she definately is
mentally impaired and could very well qualify for handicapped parking..
Annie RUtahkn2Me
If this is true, it sounds like Madonna's chosen form of birth control is
abortion.
I'm pro-choice, but I find Madonna's choice totally immoral and despicable.
Annie RU
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