Canadian Women Win Hockey GOLD!!!!
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felice
> Hey folks!
> Canadian women win hockey GOLD at Vancouver Olympics=2C 2010!!!!!
> Drinks are on me=2C if anyone's around!
Yay! (Er, is this unexpected? About the only thing I know about hockey
is that Canadians are supposed to be really good at it ;)
felice
off to work now (albeit briefly) boots
Diana Eichert
>
> cyn ######## wrote:
>> Hey folks!
>> Canadian women win hockey GOLD at Vancouver Olympics=2C 2010!!!!!
>> Wooohooo!
>> Drinks are on me=2C if anyone's around!
BooHissss :-)
Was it a good game to watch? The only time I watch ice hockey is
during the Olympics.
diana
Heather Rose Jones
On Feb 25, 2010, at 6:00 PM, cyn ######## wrote:
> Canadian women win hockey GOLD at Vancouver Olympics=2C 2010!!!!!
Yaaaayyyy! (And they sang their anthem very enthusiastically on the
podium. I always like to see that!)
Heather
(no shoes, just warm socks)
Sarah Cardin
Sarah Heather Cardin
Boots that ought to be writing book reviews
felice
> Boots that ought to be writing book reviews
Ooh, what are you reviewing and where are they being published?
felice
back home slippers
Sarah Cardin
called Book News, which puts out a publication and a database of short
reviews of mainly academic and scientific books. They run four or five
sentences apiece and are mainly used by acquisition librarians and some
online sites. (I think Barnes & Noble is one of them.)
The upside is that I can buy any book I review for *extremely* cheap.
felice
> It's not as impressive as it sounds. I write short reviews for a place
> called Book News, which puts out a publication and a database of short
> reviews of mainly academic and scientific books. They run four or five
> sentences apiece and are mainly used by acquisition librarians and some
> online sites. (I think Barnes & Noble is one of them.)
That's still pretty cool. Do you get to pick and choose what you review?
I imagine some of the books might be quite challenging to read, let
alone meaningfully review, if they're aimed at a specialised
academic/scientific audience in a field you're not well acquainted with.
On the other hand, you could learn some interesting stuff from reading
random books.
> The upside is that I can buy any book I review for *extremely* cheap.
That is definitely a bonus! Not that my to-read pile needs any help.
felice
bookworm shoes
Mary McCool
ceremony.
Mary
grey and purple sneakers
Deanne Fountaine
> I understand that the team also celebrated with beer and
> ceremony.
And champagne... don't forget the champagne.
Deanne
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Heather
It's a weird world stripey socks.
PS Emegrgency Lesbian has branhed out in to the world of home recording. =
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And champagne... don't forget the champagne.
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cyn ########
On 27 Feb 2010 06:18:16 -0500=2C "Heather C A Malcolm" <hcamalcolm@blueyond=
er.co.uk> wrote:
>Heather
>It's a weird world stripey socks.
>
>PS Emegrgency Lesbian has branhed out in to the world of home recording.=20
>You can follow her fumbling techie adventures at
>http://macrockchick.wordpress.com/
>All comments gratefully recived
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Hey=2C two Heathers in this thread! :-)
At this rate=2C the floozies are going to come flouncing back....ugh! :-/
cyn#
been-a-while shoes
(ahem. I'm sort of "test posting" -- there've been a few changes in my lif=
e. May or not go into it=2C depending on how my posting works. Currently=
=2C my server doesn't actually carry newsgroups=2C so I was reading via goo=
gle=2C and it's a pita to compose replies in hotmail and reply that way. I=
'm looking for a way to get aslm more directly=2C but it's been so long sin=
ce I've posted that everything is rusty. Is it just me=2C or did aslm get =
realllly quiet? And did swlab disappear=2C or am I just not looking in the=
right places?)
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(I have missed you folks! Sorry I just disappeared -- I haven't been up to=
much=2C and my non-communicative streak took over...it's still not back=2C=
but....
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...it's kinda amusing to me to post about the Canadian Women's hockey GOLD.=
Deja vu from when I did so...oh=2C a few years ago. <nostalgic smile> N=
ow=2C if the men win=2C too...it's be sweet.) =3B-)
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ipping over myselves when posting. =20
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Sarah Cardin
> > It's not as impressive as it sounds. I write short reviews for a place
> > called Book News, which puts out a publication and a database of short
> > reviews of mainly academic and scientific books. They run four or five
> > sentences apiece and are mainly used by acquisition librarians and some
> > online sites. (I think Barnes & Noble is one of them.)
>
> That's still pretty cool. Do you get to pick and choose what you review? I
> imagine some of the books might be quite challenging to read, let alone
> meaningfully review, if they're aimed at a specialised academic/scientific
> audience in a field you're not well acquainted with. On the other hand, you
> could learn some interesting stuff from reading random books.
I review what comes in the big boxes. BookNews does have a sense of what
kind of books I like & where my expertise is, so I have a tendency to get a
lot of history (for example). But I also get a lot of awful postmodernist &
poststructuralist stuff that's pretty incoherent. And very difficult to
review.
>
> > The upside is that I can buy any book I review for *extremely* cheap.
>
> That is definitely a bonus! Not that my to-read pile needs any help.
Neither does mine. But the book on Amish quilts I got the other week is way
cool.
Sarah Heather Cardin
Watching Honolulu television boots
felice
> Hey=2C two Heathers in this thread! :-)
> At this rate=2C the floozies are going to come flouncing back....ugh! :-/
Yay! BTW, when you mentioned that drinks were on you, you weren't
meaning jello shots by any chance? *evil smirk*
> (ahem. I'm sort of "test posting" -- there've been a few changes in my lif=
> e. May or not go into it=2C depending on how my posting works.
Please do! It has been far too long with no news from the cyn#s.
> Currently=
> =2C my server doesn't actually carry newsgroups=2C so I was reading via goo=
> gle=2C and it's a pita to compose replies in hotmail and reply that way. I=
> 'm looking for a way to get aslm more directly
It's probably easiest to just subscribe to the mailing list; usenet is
virtually an extinct form of communication these days. Send an email to
majo...@lists.panix.com with "subscribe aslm" (no quotes) in the body.
Or "subscribe aslm-digest" if you prefer. Better than copy&pasting
between hotmail and google, anyway.
> Is it just me=2C or did aslm get realllly quiet?
Digest #989 contains two posts - one dated 30 Dec 2007 and one dated 25
Mar 2009. I think that qualified us as a "low traffic group" 8)
felice
feet that have been walked on too much today
cyn########
wrote:
>cyn ######## wrote:
>> Hey=2C two Heathers in this thread! :-)
>> At this rate=2C the floozies are going to come flouncing back....ugh! :-/
>
>Yay! BTW, when you mentioned that drinks were on you, you weren't
>meaning jello shots by any chance? *evil smirk*
For you, I think just about anything could be arranged. ;-)
('Tho I'd definitely have more fun the other way around.)
>> (ahem. I'm sort of "test posting" -- there've been a few changes in my lif=
>> e. May or not go into it=2C depending on how my posting works.
>
>Please do! It has been far too long with no news from the cyn#s.
No news is good news? (Well, actually not, in my case, but bah to
that).
I'll definitely try to update y'all on what's been happening the last
few years -- I do feel bad for just dropping out of sight. There were
a few major events, but it's more that I just hit a period of
malaise...and there seem to be periods in my life where I just
withdraw from human contact. I realize it's unfair to those who try
to maintain contact with me, but the black hole of suckitude doesn't
see beyond itself.
I feel better just with the last few posts, though, so I'll slowly do
my best to get into the groove, (or should that be "Grove"), again.
Even with the icky code stuff that seems to be plaguing my posts.
(Feh, I feel like such a novice poster again...bleh!)
I'm not sure where to start, and I feel a bit out-of-place/awkward
just popping back in again -- oh, hell, when has that ever stopped me?
Er, maybe I'll just list the big items, and enough said... :-/
But...this may have to wait until after the Men's Hockey GOLD!!! :-)
>>I'm looking for a way to get aslm more directly
>
>It's probably easiest to just subscribe to the mailing list; usenet is
>virtually an extinct form of communication these days. Send an email to
>majo...@lists.panix.com with "subscribe aslm" (no quotes) in the body.
>Or "subscribe aslm-digest" if you prefer. Better than copy&pasting
>between hotmail and google, anyway.
I'm still playing around a bit, but maybe I'll do this. I guess I'll
cross my fingers that shoes are still on the mailing list, then. (Gee,
is it weird I miss usenet??? Did something happen to it, or did
people just move on to livejournal, etc.??!)
Any idea what happened to swlab? I used to enjoy lurking there...
Ah well, I'm still hunting down the ngs I used to read, so maybe I'll
find out myself.
And that's all for this one. Cheer's all!
cyn68
(Hey, fels...I really missed you.)
shoes with a naughty glint in their eyes
felice
> For you, I think just about anything could be arranged. ;-)
> ('Tho I'd definitely have more fun the other way around.)
Eeep! Certainly, my Lady; I'll prepare them right away. What flavour of
jelly would you prefer?
> I'll definitely try to update y'all on what's been happening the last
> few years
We'll be looking forward to it. Albeit with some trepidation, since I
get the impression events haven't been entirely positive.
> there seem to be periods in my life where I just
> withdraw from human contact. I realize it's unfair to those who try
> to maintain contact with me, but the black hole of suckitude doesn't
> see beyond itself.
Yes, I understand what that can be like, in general terms at least. And
humans are scary.
}}}}} cyn# {{{{{
> I feel better just with the last few posts, though
That is good to hear. Remember that in future; staying away from aslm is
bad for your mental health.
> Even with the icky code stuff that seems to be plaguing my posts.
It seems to be gone now.
> I'm not sure where to start, and I feel a bit out-of-place/awkward
> just popping back in again -- oh, hell, when has that ever stopped me?
> Er, maybe I'll just list the big items, and enough said... :-/
That will do for a start; we can always ask for more detail later (you
don't have to provide said detail if you're not so inclined, of course!)
> I'm still playing around a bit, but maybe I'll do this. I guess I'll
> cross my fingers that shoes are still on the mailing list, then.
Well, everyone should be getting the same posts, whether through usenet,
the mailing list, or google.
> (Gee,
> is it weird I miss usenet??? Did something happen to it, or did
> people just move on to livejournal, etc.??!)
Oh, it's still there, but people have mostly moved on to web-based
forums and blogs and so-forth. A lot of ISPs don't bother to run news
servers any more, so it is definitely a protocol on the way out. Aside
from Google Groups, of course, which I find rather disturbing - a
private company essentially taking over what used to be a distributed
public forum. Lots of things about Google disturb me.
But no, it's not weird to miss it. Though how much you can trust me as
an arbiter of what's weird and what isn't is another question!
> cyn68
> (Hey, fels...I really missed you.)
> shoes with a naughty glint in their eyes
*blushes*
felice
swooning shoes
felice
> I review what comes in the big boxes. BookNews does have a sense of what
> kind of books I like & where my expertise is, so I have a tendency to get a
> lot of history (for example). But I also get a lot of awful postmodernist &
> poststructuralist stuff that's pretty incoherent. And very difficult to
> review.
How big are these boxes? Do you have any time to spare on reading books
of your own choice, or does BookNews swamp you? Have you encountered any
particularly entertaining examples of incoherence?
> Neither does mine. But the book on Amish quilts I got the other week is way
> cool.
Neat 8)
felice
Off to bed slippers
felice
cyn######## wrote:
> (Gee,
> is it weird I miss usenet??? Did something happen to it, or did
> people just move on to livejournal, etc.??!)
I'm wondering if it would be a good idea to move ASLM off usenet. The
group has moved before, from ASL to ASLM, and I suspect most of us have
moved on to the mailing list even if it's still being echoed on usenet.
What do all you shoes think of shifting to a web-based forum on
www.shoelesbians.com? The website is certainly long overdue for an
update. It wouldn't be too much trouble for me to install a phpbb forum
or equivalent - we have the space and the bandwidth for it. It should
even be possible, though not necessarily easy or quick, to import all
the old posts from usenet.
Possible advantages:
- it would provide a good excuse to invite former shoes to rejoin
the group
- it would probably be more appealing to new recruits
- it could be made private if we so desired, ie posts would only
visible to people who register for the forum, rather than
showing up in google searches etc (and we could put plenty of
public material up as well to make the place welcoming to
newcomers).
- better threading functionality than email digests
- possibility for dividing into subsections if traffic gets high
- avatars
Any thoughts?
felice
webmistress boots
PS feel free to reply to me directly, if there are any lurkers out there
who don't want their current email address being broadcast to usenet and
the spam harvesters.
Devra
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Would the new platform still allow for messages to be emailed out? Personally, I know I won't get around to checking a website for messages, especially if things are quiet for a while (as the cycles go around here)...
I'm not on digest. I just have a special folder set up for aslm, so all shoe posts get routed there. When there's a flurry of activity, I can follow without having it clog my inbox, and I get to follow conversations without interruption from other inbox stuff.
dev
way too early chilly toes
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From: felice <feli...@randomstatic.net>
Sent: Thu, March 4, 2010 2:11:39 AM
Subject: [ASLM] The future of ASLM
Hmmm, is that our annual flurry of activity over for the year? 8)
cyn######## wrote:
> (Gee,y
Any thoughts?
felice
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<br><br>Hmmm, is that our annual flurry of activity over for the year? 8)<br><br>cyn######## wrote:<br>> (Gee,y<br>> people just move on to livejournal, etc.??!)<br><br>I'm wondering if it would be a good idea to move ASLM off usenet. The <br>group has moved before, from ASL to ASLM, and I suspect most of us have <br>moved on to the mailing list even if it's still being echoed on usenet.<br><br>What do all you shoes think of shifting to a web-based forum on <br><a target="_blank" href="http://www.shoelesbians.com">www.shoelesbians.com</a>? The website is certainly long overdue for an <br>update. It wouldn't be too much trouble for me to install a phpbb forum <br>or equivalent - we have the space and the bandwidth for it. It should <br>even be possible, though not necessarily easy or quick, to import all <br>the old posts from usenet.<br><br>Possible advantages:<br>- it would provide a good excuse to invite former shoes to rejoin<br> the
group<br>- it would probably be more appealing to new recruits<br>- it could be made private if we so desired, ie posts would only<br> visible to people who register for the forum, rather than<br> showing up in google searches etc (and we could put plenty of<br> public material up as well to make the place welcoming to<br> newcomers).<br>- better threading functionality than email digests<br>- possibility for dividing into subsections if traffic gets high<br>- avatars<br><br>Any thoughts?<br><br>felice<br>webmistress boots<br><br>PS feel free to reply to me directly, if there are any lurkers out there <br>who don't want their current email address being broadcast to usenet and <br>the spam harvesters.<br><br>-- <br>-----------------------------<br>ASLM is a moderated newsgroup. <br><span>Our webpage is at <a target="_blank" href="http://www.shoelesbians.com">http://www.shoelesbians.com</a></span><br><span>The archive is at <a
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> Hmmm, is that our annual flurry of activity over for the year? 8)
SNIP
> I'm wondering if it would be a good idea to move ASLM off usenet. The
> group has moved before, from ASL to ASLM, and I suspect most of us have
> moved on to the mailing list even if it's still being echoed on usenet.
>
> What do all you shoes think of shifting to a web-based forum on
> www.shoelesbians.com? The website is certainly long overdue for an
> update. It wouldn't be too much trouble for me to install a phpbb forum
> or equivalent - we have the space and the bandwidth for it. It should
> even be possible, though not necessarily easy or quick, to import all
> the old posts from usenet.
>
> Possible advantages:
> - it would provide a good excuse to invite former shoes to rejoin
> the group
> - it would probably be more appealing to new recruits
> - it could be made private if we so desired, ie posts would only
> visible to people who register for the forum, rather than
> showing up in google searches etc (and we could put plenty of
> public material up as well to make the place welcoming to
> newcomers).
> - better threading functionality than email digests
> - possibility for dividing into subsections if traffic gets high
> - avatars
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> felice
> webmistress boots
I date from the ASL days, when we co-opted the group Joel created.
I dropped out after awhile, you know life moves on, but then rejoined
the ASLM newsgroup.
MY US$.02 worth is don't move it to a private forum, there are plenty
of them out there already. Also, having run private forums before they
can be a real pain if you have hardware, database or software failures.
Right now I can go into Google Groups and look back years if I so desire.
If you want to create a private forum off the website for private
purposes, but don't shutdown the newsgroup. You never know what future
lesbians will bring.
diana
Diana Eichert
Brainy,
( I'm an IT techno nerd by trade / Financial Analyst by wanting to retire,
someday ).
First, let me say I came to ASLM via ASL. I was in my mid-30's, recently
separated from my long time partner, when I stumbled upon ASL. Joel was
still posting and was rather amused at what came of his creation. I
started having conversations with a great woman from Aus. , out of which
developed a long term friendship which we maintain to this day.
When I first started posting to ASL it was like a neighborhood in a larger
city, which we co-opted from the original inhabitants, nerdy Joel and his
friends. Think Castro street when the queers first started moving in.
Over time the porn stores moved in. When they became to obnoxious the
decision was made to move to a moderated group. Think nice, safe walled
community with a guard at the entrance. However the neighborhood is still
dependent on the municipality for roads, sewers and water.
Now the traffic on the moderated group has dropped off dramatically. With
a proposal to move from a moderated group to a forum on a privately
hosted server. Think creating a new village, removed from the city, but
still walled with a watch person. This future comes with additional
privacy but also brings requirements to development and maintain an
infrastructure.
I think if you move to a web based forum you unintentionally restrict
access to an even smaller community.
diana
breaking in her new pair of turf shoes
while playing softball with The Kids, AKA 30 somethings.
felice
> Would the new platform still allow for messages to be emailed out?
> Personally, I know I won't get around to checking a website for
> messages, especially if things are quiet for a while (as the cycles
> go around here)...
There are options, yes. Actual email digests can be done (daily, weekly,
or monthly by user selection); alternatively email notification of the
first new post since your last visit (or every time there's a new post
if you prefer), or an rss feed could be set up. I am hoping a move would
result in increased traffic and an end to long quiet periods, though
there's no guarantee, of course. If the traffic does stay up, it could
automatically send reminders to users who haven't visited for a while
(actually, that might be an idea even if the board is quiet - it might
encourage people to post).
felice
webmistress boots
felice
> MY US$.02 worth is don't move it to a private forum, there are plenty
> of them out there already. Also, having run private forums before they
> can be a real pain if you have hardware, database or software failures.
We've had technical issues with the alsm newsgroup too. The database can
be backed up regularly, the software is open source, and the hosting
service is responsible for maintaining the hardware (and we can always
shift hosts if necessary). Yes, there'll be the occasional glitch, but I
don't think there's a real risk of permanent catastrophic failure.
> Right now I can go into Google Groups and look back years if I so desire.
But that's entirely at the whim of Google, and they could decide to
unplug it or start charging for access or whatever at any time.
> If you want to create a private forum off the website for private
> purposes
Privacy is only an option; it's one I think makes sense (back in the old
days, usenet was considered ephemeral, not something that would be
permanently archived and searchable by anyone), but the forum could be
left open to reading by non-members and searchbots if that was the
consensus. Or we could have two sub-forums, one public and one members-only.
> but don't shutdown the newsgroup. You never know what future
> lesbians will bring.
I don't think many future lesbians will be venturing on to usenet...
> When I first started posting to ASL it was like a neighborhood in a larger
> city...
> Think creating a new village, removed from the city, but
> still walled with a watch person. This future comes with additional
> privacy but also brings requirements to development and maintain an
> infrastructure.
Except I think the city is more like Centralia than San Francisco.
> I think if you move to a web based forum you unintentionally restrict
> access to an even smaller community.
That would definitely be a bad thing if it was the case, but is a web
forum really less accessible than usenet or a private mailing list these
days?
felice
webmistress boots
Sarah Cardin
it was findable and crawlable for nonmembers. privacy didn't concern us
much when we were ASL and it shouldn't now.
sarah heather cardin
boots full of spanish sweet olive oil torta thingies.
Heather Rose Jones
On Mar 4, 2010, at 2:11 AM, felice wrote:
>
>
> Hmmm, is that our annual flurry of activity over for the year? 8)
>
> cyn######## wrote:
>> (Gee,
>> is it weird I miss usenet??? Did something happen to it, or did
>> people just move on to livejournal, etc.??!)
>
> I'm wondering if it would be a good idea to move ASLM off usenet. The
> group has moved before, from ASL to ASLM, and I suspect most of us
> have
> moved on to the mailing list even if it's still being echoed on
> usenet.
>
I confess that I finally abandoned usenet entirely last year. The
last newsgroup that I'd been hanging on for had simply gotten too
toxic and was only making me unhappy. All the other newsgroups I'd
been following had simply dwindled away to nothing except for spam.
I've been on the mailing list version of aslm since it was set up and
-- to the extent that the group is still in operation -- that has
worked for me very nicely. But, as others point out, a mailing list
is hard for prospective new members to stumble across.
> What do all you shoes think of shifting to a web-based forum on
> www.shoelesbians.com? The website is certainly long overdue for an
> update. It wouldn't be too much trouble for me to install a phpbb
> forum
> or equivalent - we have the space and the bandwidth for it. It should
> even be possible, though not necessarily easy or quick, to import all
> the old posts from usenet.
I belong to a couple of web-based forums and find that I visit them
very rarely. Even when I keep the bookmarks handy, the need to
actively go there to check for new postings means I don't do it very
often, which means I don't get caught up in the day-to-day
conversations. One of the advantages usenet had (back when it was
seriously viable) was that it was a "one stop shop" for multiple
interests and communities. E-mail, similarly, functions across
multiple interests/communities. The other venues that I've added that
_do_ work for me are things like Live Journal (hrj) and FaceBook
(Heather Rose Jones). And, again, one of the reasons they fit my
style is because of the broad spectrum of contacts I can maintain in a
single source. But the more fragmented my access points are, the less
likely I am to follow them. If the two dozen or so e-mail lists I'm
on were all independent web forums, I'd probably abandon all but two
or three.
This is all by way of saying, that while I appreciate the interest in
finding a more accessible and inviting context for the community, if e-
mail were no longer a way of participating in it, it would probably
leave me behind.
Heather
felice
> One of the advantages usenet had (back when it was
> seriously viable) was that it was a "one stop shop" for multiple
> interests and communities.
That is a good point.
> This is all by way of saying, that while I appreciate the interest in
> finding a more accessible and inviting context for the community, if e-
> mail were no longer a way of participating in it, it would probably
> leave me behind.
Would the options I mentioned in my reply to dev (ie email digests or
notification of new posts since last visit) be sufficient for you? With
links to take you to the relevant post on the forum if you wanted to
reply to something? Or do you need to be able to reply by email as well?
(Presumably possible, but based on my cursory research not quite as easy)
felice
webmistress boots
Devra
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>With links to take you to the relevant post on the forum if you wanted to
>reply to something? Or do you need to be able to reply by email as well?
>(Presumably possible, but based on my cursory research not quite as easy)
not that i am the most prolific voice in the shoe world, but not being able to reply via email would definitely reduce my personal traffic. the way things are now, i can shoot back a quick reply (as now), whereas even with an easy-to-access link, i might still put off my reply to a later moment while i finish with my other mail...and that later moment may never come.
dev
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for the record, i do still participate in a number of discussion boards; most of these utilize either google groups or yahoo groups, but two of them still use usenet.
dev
ps-ing toes (which is not the same as bs-ing toes) (all of which just goes to prove that i'm up too early and the coffee isn't strong enough)
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On Mar 5, 2010, at 5:36 AM, Devra wrote:
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> felice:
>
>> With links to take you to the relevant post on the forum if you
>> wanted to
>> reply to something? Or do you need to be able to reply by email as
>> well?
>> (Presumably possible, but based on my cursory research not quite as
>> easy)
>
> not that i am the most prolific voice in the shoe world, but not
> being able to reply via email would definitely reduce my personal
> traffic. the way things are now, i can shoot back a quick reply (as
> now), whereas even with an easy-to-access link, i might still put
> off my reply to a later moment while i finish with my other
> mail...and that later moment may never come.
That's my situation as well. The times I've been on digest-format
lists, it greatly reduces my participation due to the increased work
to format and contextualize the reply. And already as it is, if I put
an e-mail off to answer later, I'm far more likely to never answer
it. So I guess I'm saying that I'm impulsive and lazy!
Heather
(and speaking of lazy, I need to get out of bed and put on my shoes)
Sarah Cardin
and digests really don't cut it for me. like hrj, i find it too much
trouble to sort through the digests to figure out what i want to respond
to. plus, my response would undoubtedly be way too late most of the time.
sarah heather cardin
boots still pretending that they're awake
>
> felice:
>
> >With links to take you to the relevant post on the forum if you wanted to
> >reply to something? Or do you need to be able to reply by email as well?
> >(Presumably possible, but based on my cursory research not quite as easy)
>
> not that i am the most prolific voice in the shoe world, but not being able
> to reply via email would definitely reduce my personal traffic. the way
> things are now, i can shoot back a quick reply (as now), whereas even with
> an easy-to-access link, i might still put off my reply to a later moment
> while i finish with my other mail...and that later moment may never come.
>
> dev
> bare toes that are getting the hang of usenet etiquette again and
> recognizing that my email program no longer has options for inserting
> carrots (>) or bottom posting...
>
--
Heather C A Malcolm
I'm not a prolific poster either, but the way the list is working now =
suits
me down to the ground.=20
Sl=E1inte mhath
=A0
Heather
Sniffly shoes.
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Devra
Sent: 05 March 2010 13:37
To: undisclosed-recipients:
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felice:
>With links to take you to the relevant post on the forum if you wanted =
to=20
>reply to something? Or do you need to be able to reply by email as =
well?=20
>(Presumably possible, but based on my cursory research not quite as =
easy)
not that i am the most prolific voice in the shoe world, but not being =
able
to reply via email would definitely reduce my personal traffic. the way
things are now, i can shoot back a quick reply (as now), whereas even =
with
an easy-to-access link, i might still put off my reply to a later moment
while i finish with my other mail...and that later moment may never =
come.
dev
bare toes that are getting the hang of usenet etiquette again and
recognizing that my email program no longer has options for inserting
carrots (>) or bottom posting...
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the relevant post on the forum if you wanted to <br>>reply to =
something?
Or do you need to be able to reply by email as well? <br>>(Presumably
possible, but based on my cursory research not quite as easy)<br><br>not
that i am the most prolific voice in the shoe world, but not being able =
to
reply via email would definitely reduce my personal traffic. the way =
things
are now, i can shoot back a quick reply (as now), whereas even with an
easy-to-access link, i might still put off my reply to a later moment =
while
i finish with my other mail...and that later moment may never
come.<br><br>dev<br>bare toes that
are getting the hang of usenet etiquette again and recognizing that my
email program no longer has options for inserting carrots (>) or =
bottom
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ASLM is a moderated newsgroup.=20
felice
list integration - it might even be able to talk directly to the
existing panix.com list rather than requiring migrating to a new list,
though I'm not sure on that yet. It can also integrate directly with
usenet, though it would need an NNTP server to talk to and I'm not
certain it being a moderated newsgroup wouldn't cause problems. I'll
investigate further.
Does anyone object to a web forum that supplemented the mailing list and
newsgroup rather than replaced them?
felice
webmistress boots
Diana Eichert
SNIP
> Does anyone object to a web forum that supplemented the mailing list and
> newsgroup rather than replaced them?
>
> felice
> webmistress boots
supplement is fine with me.
FWIW, I use the mailing list to send and reply to messages. I'm an old
unix nerd, everything is done from command line, use either pine or mutt
for e-mail.
diana
just worn tenny runners
Heather C A Malcolm
FWIW, I use the mailing list to send and reply to messages. I'm an old
unix nerd, everything is done from command line, use either pine or mutt
for e-mail.
diana
just worn tenny runners
<sigh>
Heather
Loves them techie girls slippers
felice
felice
testing slippers
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felice
I don't suppose anyone knows a good reliable usenet server that doesn't
append an ad like that?
felice
webmistress boots
Sarah Cardin
sarah heather cardin
nosy boots
cyn########
wrote:
>cyn######## wrote:
>> For you, I think just about anything could be arranged. ;-)
>> ('Tho I'd definitely have more fun the other way around.)
>
>Eeep! Certainly, my Lady; I'll prepare them right away. What flavour of
>jelly would you prefer?
Hmm, why don't you decide. Surprise me! Methinks the tastiness of
the jelly shots would be far,far, far, secondary to the overall
yumminess of the presentation. ;-)
In fact, you could skip the shots entirely, and just give me five
minutes to linger over....oh, snap. Are we still pg-rated??? (Were
we before..?) Well, cyn68 has just been transported to a way naughty
place, and...oh, my.
Eeep, what a way for my various and sundry selves to show up after so
much time...<blush>
>> I'll definitely try to update y'all on what's been happening the last
>> few years
>
>We'll be looking forward to it. Albeit with some trepidation, since I
>get the impression events haven't been entirely positive.
Meh. Feh. Bleh.
> }}}}} cyn# {{{{{
Ooooof! You remembered!! Thank-you!!! :-) Ooooof!
(I was actually h-gged two years ago by this senior lady I know, and
she's a sweetheart, but it nearly caused more mental instability. I
thought about explaining how I was allergic to h-gs, but feared she'd
take it the wrong way, and make another attempt).
>> I feel better just with the last few posts, though
>
>That is good to hear. Remember that in future; staying away from aslm is
>bad for your mental health.
Ooops. I spoke too soon.
[re: cyn#, the Life and Times...]
>> Er, maybe I'll just list the big items, and enough said... :-/
>
>That will do for a start; we can always ask for more detail later (you
>don't have to provide said detail if you're not so inclined, of course!)
Ack. Will have to delay this...r/l just spit on me; need to fix
moderate problem...still debating details of the "cyn#: Missing in
Action!" post.
Why, yes, my head does seem a bit big...spacious/spacey(?)...
vacuum...I need to rework my sense of humour. <rolling eyes>
>> I'm still playing around a bit, but maybe I'll do this. I guess I'll
>> cross my fingers that shoes are still on the mailing list, then.
>
>Well, everyone should be getting the same posts, whether through usenet,
>the mailing list, or google.
Ah, I meant to say, I hope the old regular shoes are reading still,
and that they haven't just moved on to other places.
>But no, it's not weird to miss it. Though how much you can trust me as
>an arbiter of what's weird and what isn't is another question!
True, true -- you're actively enticing cyn68 out into the light, and
that's always a dicey proposition. Well into the wicked, that one.
(Limits? Let's...negotiate.) <evil grin>
(And by "actively", I mean, all you have to do is flick your finger,
and you've caught my attention. <cough> )
;-)
.....and, on that cheery note, let's call it for this post!
cyn#
playing shoes
cyn########
wrote:
>felice wrote:
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>
>I don't suppose anyone knows a good reliable usenet server that doesn't
>append an ad like that?
Er, I found and am currently using this free news server:
94.75.214.90
but I have no idea as to their stability, or anything else. They do
allow posting, hence my icky-code-free posts. <crossed fingers> If
they go down, or I find myself resorting to email again, you may find
code gunk again, until I take some time and work out how to get rid of
it. (Steep learning curve, here, folks -- I've been away!! :P )
Sorry I haven't done more to re-establish myself as a poster, here. A
r/l small project is exploding in my face This Very Moment! Meh. I
should have waited another month before dropping in....
...also snagged a cold from somewhere. Thankfully, it's been a mild
one and seems to be wandering off on its own. Still, I hate being
fuzzy-headed and online -- leads to mucho embarassment. (Oh,
wait...that was the norm for me...hmm, I'll just blame one of the
absent cyns...never mind)
Brief comments, w/respect to this thread...
Hmm. Well, I'm not on the technical side of things, so I'm not sure
how difficult or how much work is involved in evolving the ng. The
idea of a web forum has its appeal, especially if the usenet/mailing
list can work co-exist with it.
Mainly, I'd love to see aslm become as active as it was in the past.
But, that said, it's up to participants to make a lively group -- and
I'm not sure if just creating a web forum will lead to that. You
could spend the time/money creating the space, only for it to be quiet
as well, if posters don't show up. I'd hate to see a lot of time and
effort go for nothing.
I like usenet for its threading capacity...but, I'm not on the mail
list for a fair comparison. If I lose the free news server, given the
option of a web forum, I'd probably visit it over a mailing list --
but either is fine and workable for me, assuming I can maintain some
semblence of posting.
I also like the potential for private posts, though...or those viewed
only by (lurking) members, as opposed to the general public, surfing
trollers, icky het boys, etc. Not essential, by any means, but I can
see the potential of writing posts directed to shoes, but being leery
of posting many details, just because of the public-anyone-can-read
aspect of usenet. Too have a buffer zone where I might (potentially)
write stuff that's open to shoes, as opposed to the general
public...is basically a way to get over my inability to email folks
consistantly! (I am LOUSY at email).
Ummm...I'm not sure I'm explaining this well. I'm not even sure I'd
use private posting, even if available, but it's nice to have if only
so I can confess my worst sins with a minutely increased level of
self-preservation!
So...uh...yeah. Well...that's my input...<rolling eyes>...
I'd like aslm to be more active...but beyond that, I don't have the
nitty-gritty know-how to improve the place! Usenet is good. Web
forums are good. Mailing lists are good. All together would be
awesome -- if we get more shoes posting! (Pot, kettle, black -- yes,
I know).
cyn#
(sorry -- I need to snooze!)
sleepy shoes
felice
> Er, I found and am currently using this free news server:
> 94.75.214.90
> but I have no idea as to their stability, or anything else.
Thanks, I'll check it out!
> (Steep learning curve, here, folks -- I've been away!! :P )
We noticed - you've been sorely missed...
> Sorry I haven't done more to re-establish myself as a poster, here. A
> r/l small project is exploding in my face This Very Moment! Meh. I
> should have waited another month before dropping in....
Nonononono, your dropping in was most excellently timed, and... well, I
hesitate to say you're posting enough, because there's no such thing as
enough cyn# posts, but I don't think your re-establishment credentials
are in any doubt. I hope you manage to sort things out with the project!
> fuzzy-headed and online -- leads to mucho embarassment. (Oh,
> wait...that was the norm for me...hmm, I'll just blame one of the
> absent cyns...never mind)
Of course, it would be easier to blame things on the other cyn #s if
they weren't so absent ;)
> Brief comments, w/respect to this thread...
> Hmm. Well, I'm not on the technical side of things, so I'm not sure
> how difficult or how much work is involved in evolving the ng. The
> idea of a web forum has its appeal, especially if the usenet/mailing
> list can work co-exist with it.
I've established that coexistence is definitely technically possible;
the remaining work is just in making the forum "nice", which is a bit
more nebulous and open-ended. Oh, and ideally (for technical reasons)
integrating directly with the mailing list rather than via usenet, which
should also be possible but a bit trickier to sort out. Probably won't
be up and running for a while, though, since I'm kind of busy at the moment.
> could spend the time/money creating the space, only for it to be quiet
> as well, if posters don't show up. I'd hate to see a lot of time and
> effort go for nothing.
It's not costing anything, and I enjoy tinkering with this sort of
stuff. It will be a pity if it doesn't revitalise the group, but no big
deal.
> I also like the potential for private posts, though...or those viewed
> only by (lurking) members, as opposed to the general public, surfing
> trollers, icky het boys, etc. Not essential, by any means, but I can
> see the potential of writing posts directed to shoes, but being leery
> of posting many details, just because of the public-anyone-can-read
> aspect of usenet.
I'm hoping that will appeal to other ex-shoes and potential new shoes,
too. I'm thinking basically the equivalent of a return to pre-archive
usenet, where people only downloaded the groups they were interested in
reading. There'd be nothing to stop random icky het boys etc signing up
just like there was nothing stopping them reading asl, but it would
discourage casual trolls. The real advantage would be being able to post
personal stuff without it showing up in google searches etc, ie conceal
it from people investigating you specifically (current or potential
employers etc), rather than random voyeurs.
It would be possible to add a third group with more restricted access
(eg newbies only admitted if a current shoe vouches for them), but I
suspect that would be going too far, and I'm not interested in being
gatekeeper. Or keymaster.
> So...uh...yeah. Well...that's my input...<rolling eyes>...
Much appreciated - thanks!
felice
Zuul! shoes
felice
> but i wanna look!!!!!
Now why doesn't that surprise me? 8)
felice
slippers that know what Sarah is like
Heather C A Malcolm
<SNIP> all of Felice's, Cyn's and other's techie stuff...
Sighs in admiration, and realizes that Emergency Lesbian(tm) probably =
needs
a technical partner to deal with these twitterful days. Must consult =
with
Penguin Gal(tm).=20
Penguin Gal, whaddya think?
Sl=E1inte mhath
=A0
Heather
Just-been-to-meet-a-PR-person-sox
felice
> Hmm, why don't you decide. Surprise me!
As you wish, my Lady. *curtseys and withdraws*
*heads off to the VB for the necessary ingredients, but takes a quick
detour by the jello pool for inspiration*
Ah. Perhaps not. No, I think we've neglected the place a liiittle bit
too long. That looks like a job for Emergency Lesbian(tm)!
*backs away holding nose*
At least the VB is still well stocked. Bartender? Are you around?
*carefully picks out a really good bottle of vodka, and inspects the
range of industrial-size jelly packets on offer*
Hmmm... let's see, lime is the classic for a reason, of course. And
lemon would complement it nicely. To finish off... ah, let's try some
blueberry. *mixes up the jellies and sticks them in the fridge to set*
> Methinks the tastiness of
> the jelly shots would be far,far, far, secondary to the overall
> yumminess of the presentation. ;-)
My Lady is far too kind! *embarrassed smile*
> In fact, you could skip the shots entirely, and just give me five
> minutes to linger over....
*trembles* my Lady can have all the minutes she desires...
> oh, snap. Are we still pg-rated??? (Were
> we before..?) Well, cyn68 has just been transported to a way naughty
> place, and...oh, my.
A place in New Zealand? We do have some very naughty places here, or so
I'm told. *looks hopeful*
> Meh. Feh. Bleh.
You are eventually going to have to come up with a slightly more
detailed update than that, you know! 8P
> (I was actually h-gged two years ago by this senior lady I know, and
> she's a sweetheart, but it nearly caused more mental instability. I
> thought about explaining how I was allergic to h-gs, but feared she'd
> take it the wrong way, and make another attempt).
I hope it didn't take you too long to recover from the experience! No,
trying to explain could indeed have easily backfired.
>>> I feel better just with the last few posts, though
>> That is good to hear. Remember that in future; staying away from aslm is
>> bad for your mental health.
>
> Ooops. I spoke too soon.
8(
> Ack. Will have to delay this...r/l just spit on me; need to fix
> moderate problem...
Yes, r/l is more trouble than it's worth. The sooner we can all get
uploaded into a decent VR environment and leave the pesky constraints of
reality behind, the better.
> Ah, I meant to say, I hope the old regular shoes are reading still,
> and that they haven't just moved on to other places.
It looks like the number of lurking shoes has definitely dwindled, but
I'm hopeful that it would be possible to track many of them down to
invite them back.
> True, true -- you're actively enticing cyn68 out into the light, and
> that's always a dicey proposition. Well into the wicked, that one.
> (Limits? Let's...negotiate.) <evil grin>
*melts* As long as you don't grin at me like that _during_ the
negotiations! I'd be liable to agree to anything you said. And I don't
think there'd be much chance of keeping them PG-rated 8)
> cyn#
> playing shoes
felice
played-with feet ;)