ASSTR

[C]

ASSTR.com appears to be down permanently and unlikely to return, but its stories might be archived in various places. Anyone have any idea where or how to access them?

[Cesar Cueto]

On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 9:46:34 PM UTC-7, C wrote:
> ASSTR.com appears to be down permanently and unlikely to return, but its stories might be archived in various places. Anyone have any idea where or how to access them?

The only archive that I know of is wayback. But wayback denied archiving of certain stories, especially all stories from loliwood. Really the largest archive site is wayback so if you can't find it there, it is unlikely you'll find it anywhere else. Maybe someone saved the website

[Y Lee Coyote]

On Wed, 14 Sep 2022 03:13:23 -0700 (PDT), Cesar Cueto <c.na...@gmail.com>
wrote in <881f0073-cffe-4301...@googlegroups.com>:

>On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 9:46:34 PM UTC-7, C wrote:
>> ASSTR.com appears to be down permanently and unlikely to return, but its stories might be archived in various places. Anyone have any idea where or how to access them?
>
>The only archive that I know of is wayback. But wayback denied archiving of certain stories, especially all stories from loliwood. Really the largest archive site is wayback so if you can't find it there, it is unlikely you'll find it anywhere else. Maybe someone saved the website

The Wayback Machine archived pages not sites so it is an incomplete archive
at best.

There is asstr.xyz from May 2021 but it is incomplete. Not all sites are
archived and those that are not necessarily complete.

Y
P&E

[Y Lee Coyote]

On Wed, 14 Sep 2022 03:13:23 -0700 (PDT), Cesar Cueto <c.na...@gmail.com>
wrote in <881f0073-cffe-4301...@googlegroups.com>:

>On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 9:46:34 PM UTC-7, C wrote:
>> ASSTR.com appears to be down permanently and unlikely to return, but its stories might be archived in various places. Anyone have any idea where or how to access them?
>
>The only archive that I know of is wayback. But wayback denied archiving of certain stories, especially all stories from loliwood. Really the largest archive site is wayback so if you can't find it there, it is unlikely you'll find it anywhere else. Maybe someone saved the website

The Wayback Machine archived pages not sites so it is an incomplete

archive.

There is asstr.xyz from May 2021 but it is incomplete. Not all sites are
archived and those that are not necessarily complete

Y
P&E

[Y Lee Coyote]

On Wed, 14 Sep 2022 03:13:23 -0700 (PDT), Cesar Cueto <c.na...@gmail.com>
wrote in <881f0073-cffe-4301...@googlegroups.com>:

>On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 9:46:34 PM UTC-7, C wrote:
>> ASSTR.com appears to be down permanently and unlikely to return, but its stories might be archived in various places. Anyone have any idea where or how to access them?
>
>The only archive that I know of is wayback. But wayback denied archiving of certain stories, especially all stories from loliwood. Really the largest archive site is wayback so if you can't find it there, it is unlikely you'll find it anywhere else. Maybe someone saved the website

The Wayback Machine archived pages not sites so it is an incomplete
archive.

There is asstr.xyz from May 2021 but it is incomplete. Not all sites are

archived and those that are not necessarily complete.

Y

[Physical Ocean Man]

> There is asstr.xyz from May 2021 but it is incomplete. Not all sites are
> archived and those that are not necessarily complete.

The search function appears to not work on this website, is there a way to find stories by keyword or another method of searching?

[Steven mos8541 Anderson]

On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 9:46:34 PM UTC-7, C wrote:

> ASSTR.com appears to be down permanently and unlikely to return, but its stories might be archived in various places. Anyone have any idea where or how to access them?

Some guy got a torrent or whatever of like 20G of everything, even mundane stuff, like a whole dl of the entire site. Sort of like .xyz but more complete. No i dont have it if i did id GIVE IT TO THE WORLD

[Eli the Bearded]

In alt.sex.stories.d, Steven mos8541 Anderson <sjamo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 9:46:34 PM UTC-7, C wrote:
> > ASSTR.com appears to be down permanently and

> Some guy got a torrent or whatever of like 20G of everything, even
> mundane stuff, like a whole dl of the entire site. Sort of like .xyz
> but more complete. No i dont have it if i did id GIVE IT TO THE WORLD

I'm willing to host and seed that torrent. Anyone with details is
welcome to email me, my address on the post works.

Elijah
------
200G would be more trouble

[Eli the Bearded]

I see Y Lee Coyote posted te magnet link in "ASSTR.ORG Information"
message id: <kvi9ih5g34sb5lrtf...@4ax.com>

| The person responsible for asstr.xyz sent me the following:
| ****
| I don't have an account that can post to the alt.sex.stories.d newsgroup
| right now, so I'd appreciate it if you could share this torrent link there:
| magnet:?xt=urn:btih:7f5bcfa645cf79fd5778f394a837a7e0bc92e8a3&dn=www.asstr.org.rar&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A80%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.opentrackr.org%3A1337%2Fannounce
| ****

I'm about 60% downloaded now, with "10 minutes" as estimated time to
completion. I can seed this file for months, at least.

Elijah
------
but will be inspecting that it looks good later today

[Eli the Bearded]

In alt.sex.stories.d, Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> wrote:
> I see Y Lee Coyote posted te magnet link in "ASSTR.ORG Information"
> message id: <kvi9ih5g34sb5lrtf...@4ax.com>
>
> | The person responsible for asstr.xyz sent me the following:
> | ****
> | I don't have an account that can post to the alt.sex.stories.d newsgroup
> | right now, so I'd appreciate it if you could share this torrent link there:
> |
> magnet:?xt=urn:btih:7f5bcfa645cf79fd5778f394a837a7e0bc92e8a3&dn=www.asstr.org.rar&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A80%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.opentrackr.org%3A1337%2Fannounce
> | ****

Downloaded and extracted.

-rw-rw-r-- 1 ubuntu users 10134869930 Sep 16 14:20 /torrent/active/www.asstr.org.rar

md5sum: 496dd5d5132025165b26bf0fba236965
sha256sum: d85eac84563c567a3cbeb816fabee7259fbbc3bcab3455bca7b82ce2c9ae98b6

'unrar v' (verify) output:

UNRAR 5.01 freeware Copyright (c) 1993-2013 Alexander Roshal

Archive: www.asstr.org.rar
Details: RAR 4

Attributes Size Packed Ratio Date Time Checksum Name
----------- --------- -------- ----- -------- ----- -------- ----
..A.... 1897 993 52% 11-05-17 16:30 1E526E1E www.asstr.org/files/!Current_News.txt
..A.... 3495 1656 47% 11-05-17 16:30 7470527E www.asstr.org/files/!ReadMe.txt

[ .... 893663 lines removed .... ]

..AD... 0 0 0% 11-05-17 16:30 00000000 www.asstr.org/files
..AD... 0 0 0% 11-05-17 16:30 00000000 www.asstr.org
----------- --------- -------- ----- -------- ----- -------- ----
20959896044 10029624282 47% 893667

That '893667' is a count of files and directories, there are 848803
files and 44864 directories totalling 20959896044 bytes. There are 1636
unique "suffixes" (but see below), 272 unique "suffixes" used more than
once, and top twenty are:

Count | Suffix
--------+-------------------
127912 | .txt
126900 | .html
40148 | .html#003fs=3&d=1
40148 | .html#003fs=2&d=2
40148 | .html#003fs=1&d=2
40124 | .html#003fs=3&d=2
40124 | .html#003fs=2&d=1
40124 | .html#003fs=1&d=1
25248 | .htm
13464 | .jpg
8269 | .doc
5278 | .gif
2991 | .pdf
2715 | .rtf
1681 | .png
1610 | .message
1099 | .css
956 | .docx
918 | .zip
537 | .epub


There are some issues with it. HTML files that look like XML files but
have obvious CGI suffixes (..."/index.html#003Fs=2&d=1" where "#003F" is
"?" encoded), many have no suffix but will confuse a suffix count
(chapter "3. The Photograph" -> suffix ". The Photograph" <sigh>)
and a fair number of files, like "3. The Photograph", which link to
javascript that isn't included:

<SCRIPT LANGUAGE=JavaScript SRC=http://www.asstr.org/scripts/common.js></script>
<SCRIPT LANGUAGE=JavaScript SRC=http://www.asstr.org/scripts/scroller2.js></script>
<SCRIPT Language="Javascript">
<!--
runScroller();
//-->
</SCRIPT>

This torrent link apparently comes from Reddit, posted November 2017:

https://www.reddit.com/r/DHExchange/comments/7fl535/s_entire_archive_of_asstrorg_ftp_site_up_to_may/

I could probably clean this up enough to be kinda-functional as a website,
but those missing javascript files are going to be a pain point. Does
anyone have copies of them?

Elijah
------
clearly default MIME type was HTML

[George Forman]

>
> I could probably clean this up enough to be kinda-functional as a website,
> but those missing javascript files are going to be a pain point. Does
> anyone have copies of them?
>
> Elijah
> ------
> clearly default MIME type was HTML

Hey Elijah, these are available via wayback machine. If you want the ones from 2017, just change the first 4 numbers as those are the years the file was saved from:

https://web.archive.org/web/20220615140809/https://www.asstr.org/scripts/common.js
https://web.archive.org/web/20220615140902/https://www.asstr.org/scripts/scroller2.js

[Charlie]

I have the reddit torrent extracted locally on my hard drive since it's more complete than the asstr.xyz site which is missing my stories from 2007. There are also these
https://archive.org/details/falconk_archivebot_www_asstr_org_20171210
https://archive.org/details/warc_www_asstr_org-files_20151227

I'm not sure if those archive.org rips have more content than the reddit archive. I haven't checked them yet but they may be useful if you are trying to set up a mirror. archive.org also has tons of individual author pages archived up to 2022 but they are not packed into one torrent

[paquito malgesto]

Hello, I reached this group looking for news about asstr.org, sadly the news I found are not the best.

I want to thank to all of you that are making the effort of not letting the archives die, if I had the knowledge I would help, but I dont have it, it took me a couple hours just to set the torrent client and start downloading the backup. I intend to seed it as long as I can and I hope that helps a little.

Anyway for my real question, and I hope I doesn't get me banned of this group as it had happened in other sites, I am a huge fan of loliwood studios and alvo torelli site, is there any way of getting the stories from those specific sites? are there in the backup? is there any site that has backup of those sites?

I tried asstr.xyz and found some of the stories I was looking for, but those sites were my oasis in this prejudiced world.

Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated.

I will keep checking waitng for good news regarding asstr

[George Forman]

On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 6:38:12 PM UTC-5, paquito malgesto wrote:
> ... I am a huge fan of loliwood studios and alvo torelli site, is there any way of getting the stories from those specific sites? are there in the backup? is there any site that has backup of those sites? ...

https://web.archive.org/web/20210406105924/https://www.asstr.org/files/Authors/LS/www/index.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20210409103706/https://www.asstr.org/~Alvo_Torelli/index.html

That number string is YYYYMMDDHHmmSS date time. I change the year to be current + 1 (i.e. 2023) for the most recent data. Then you can use the bar at the top of the website to move around to when things are backed up.

Once you have the site, you might be able to ping the authors about getting their sites on asslr.org by having them look at https://groups.google.com/g/alt.sex.stories.d/c/LAsDF4X8Csw for Some Dude's email.

[alvot...@gmail.com]

All my stories can be found at alvotorelli.asslr.org

I haven't posted anything new there yet, but I may soon.

-Alvo

[Foz “Jaxah” Tacticus]

Hey there,

I got the magnet link for the 2017 file and extracted it on my server for browsing: https://xefig.com/

The content is as is - no clean up or files added in.

If people still have a need for hosting their own stuff on there as well, I am open to it, but I think you guys have it all sorted with ASSLR going forward.

Xefig is a private home server, so no fear of the big cloud services pulling me down :D

- Foz

[Y Lee Coyote]

On Tue, 27 Sep 2022 17:40:32 -0700 (PDT), Foz “Jaxah” Tacticus
<fozz...@gmail.com> wrote in
<5bb36f7b-4a5e-4f89...@googlegroups.com>:

Foz,

That's providing a very nice service providing that copy of ASSTR from May
2017.

I will note that the Author <<xefig.com/asstr.org/Authors/>> and Collection
<<xefig.com/asstr.org/Collections/>> indexes have case sensitive listings
so best to search with the browser's find function. Here <<aZx>> preceeds
<<aax>>.

Just a reminder that asstr.xyz is INCOMPLETE but from March 2022.

HTH

Y
Site at: yleecoyote.asslr.org/index.html

[Foz “Jaxah” Tacticus]

On Wednesday, 28 September 2022 at 15:17:28 UTC+1, Y Lee Coyote wrote:
> That's providing a very nice service providing that copy of ASSTR from May
> 2017.
>
> I will note that the Author <<xefig.com/asstr.org/Authors/>> and Collection
> <<xefig.com/asstr.org/Collections/>> indexes have case sensitive listings
> so best to search with the browser's find function. Here <<aZx>> preceeds
> <<aax>>.
>
> Just a reminder that asstr.xyz is INCOMPLETE but from March 2022.
>
> HTH
>
> Y
> Site at: yleecoyote.asslr.org/index.html

Thanks! I spotted some issues when browsing the leslita collections, and I've had to do a couple of minor edits to the html files, plus a better error handling in general when you try to navigate to places that don't exist.

I'm under half a mind to remove the Ye Olde html file listings, as they are (a) wrong and (b) causing issues, but at the same time... it's what is there - I'm not wanting to go through 20gb of stories and clean it all up!

I'll have a think about it.

[Y Lee Coyote]

On Wed, 28 Sep 2022 08:43:34 -0700 (PDT), Foz “Jaxah” Tacticus
<fozz...@gmail.com> wrote in
<43d891eb-0c33-43d3...@googlegroups.com>:

>On Wednesday, 28 September 2022 at 15:17:28 UTC+1, Y Lee Coyote wrote:
>> That's providing a very nice service providing that copy of ASSTR from May
>> 2017.
>>
>> I will note that the Author <<xefig.com/asstr.org/Authors/>> and Collection
>> <<xefig.com/asstr.org/Collections/>> indexes have case sensitive listings
>> so best to search with the browser's find function. Here <<aZx>> preceeds
>> <<aax>>.
>>
>> Just a reminder that asstr.xyz is INCOMPLETE but from March 2022.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Y
>> Site at: yleecoyote.asslr.org/index.html
>
>Thanks! I spotted some issues when browsing the leslita collections, and I've had to do a couple of minor edits to the html files, plus a better error handling in general when you try to navigate to places that don't exist.

I've been doing some nosing about in your site and the one on my own
computer that I created from the same torrent file.

My own site, asstr.org/~YLeeCoyote, is clean in both places even displaying
the images. The one exception is the file "formmail.htm" which is missing
in both.

I did find one difference where my display is clean and your is not. It is
in a M$ Word generated file <<xefig.com/asstr.org/Authors/Mward/www/>>
where replacement character (FFFD) is used in the for the space in:
<p class=MsoNormal><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></p>
several times.

>I'm under half a mind to remove the Ye Olde html file listings, as they are (a) wrong and (b) causing issues, but at the same time... it's what is there - I'm not wanting to go through 20gb of stories and clean it all up!

What file are you talking about, please? I'll note many site -- including
mine -- are all html.

>I'll have a think about it.

That is always a good idea before acting.

Perhaps those index file listing could be replaced with something more like
the display in Window's Explorer? I found those are easier to navigate
with.

HTH

[Foz “Jaxah” Tacticus]

On Wednesday, 28 September 2022 at 18:27:21 UTC+1, Y Lee Coyote wrote:
> I've been doing some nosing about in your site and the one on my own
> computer that I created from the same torrent file.
>
> My own site, asstr.org/~YLeeCoyote, is clean in both places even displaying
> the images. The one exception is the file "formmail.htm" which is missing
> in both.

I am amenable to fixing and correcting these slowly over time, though the torrent and what's available will then get out of sync.
Hmmm... maybe hosting the site as a giant code version repo may be better, then we can all benefit from corrections as we go along?
Or are we better letting legacy stuff just stay as is?

>
> I did find one difference where my display is clean and your is not. It is
> in a M$ Word generated file <<xefig.com/asstr.org/Authors/Mward/www/>>
> where replacement character (FFFD) is used in the for the space in:
> <p class=MsoNormal><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></p>
> several times.

Yeah, corruption is rife, especially with old non-standard character set conversions.
Again, I can fix this up, but making it freely available so everyone gets the same stuff?

> >I'm under half a mind to remove the Ye Olde html file listings, as they are (a) wrong and (b) causing issues, but at the same time... it's what is there - I'm not wanting to go through 20gb of stories and clean it all up!
> What file are you talking about, please? I'll note many site -- including
> mine -- are all html.

Okay, here is an example: http://xefig.com/asstr.org/Authors/BobbyIncest/
You can see here that there are two folder: "Fun and Games" and "www"
"www" doesn't exist - what is actually being displayed is the "index.html" automatically.

This is good in a way because it means there is very little strain on the server - even the Authors list is just serving up a 800kb index.html rather than churning through the file system slowly enumerating the contents.
However, there is a problem: the index.html doesn't truly reflect on reality - hence a missing folder.

If you click into "Fun and Games", I've renamed "index.html" to "ye-olde-index.html" and you can see the difference between the live generated file list and the original.
And yes, the files called "index.html#003Fs=1&d=1" are indeed there, duplicates of the original "index.html", but with difference parameters passed in and then imortalised in the files for some odd reason.

> Perhaps those index file listing could be replaced with something more like
> the display in Window's Explorer? I found those are easier to navigate
> with.

Well, you can tell me what you think of the current design :)

- Foz

[Y Lee Coyote]

On Wed, 28 Sep 2022 11:10:00 -0700 (PDT), Foz “Jaxah” Tacticus
<fozz...@gmail.com> wrote in
<d5083dc3-0dfb-4e58...@googlegroups.com>:

>On Wednesday, 28 September 2022 at 18:27:21 UTC+1, Y Lee Coyote wrote:
>> I've been doing some nosing about in your site and the one on my own

<snip>

>Well, you can tell me what you think of the current design :)

When author or collection site was setup two things where added to confuse
you now. First, the empty folder www for those creating html sites. Second
for the real directory for <name>
/files/Authors/<name>/www/
there was an alias directory created
/~<name>/

Thus it is normal for those www folders to be empty hence appearing to be
missing if person did not generate html files. Similarly it could be the
only folder there if the person did not upload anything except to www.

In my unpacking of the Torrent file, I have a directory
\files\Authors\YLeeCoyote\www
while you display the file index.html which is in that directory which is
the html default rule.

What I have noticed is the there is a batch of files
Formmail.htm#003F<Re#calling subject>
which were created when some used my anon reply form. (My GUESS is that
was part of some internal tracking of using the anon feedback system.)
Again, junk like those strange index.html files that you mentioned.

And now for your question. Everything you are doing is correct but
difficult to use because of the need to get names precisely correct. What
would be helpful is a search function that looks for matches in those big
indexes and produces a short list. The short list would have links to the
index files.

Y

[Foz “Jaxah” Tacticus]

The www folders, may or may not exist. In the case of the BobbyIncest, the www folder doesn't exist, whereas with the Mward and your own folder does have it - my point was that the index.html files already in there displaying a folder structure isn't quite correct (plus the junk files that are not displayed), along with being a hinderance in navigating (not good for mobile phone use).

I can probably do an ~alias, but I don't think something like that is needed for this legacy viewer? Is that a needed thing do you think?

Ah, the search function... that would certainly bump up the scale of this little project - there are a LOT of files and folders!

Not ideal, but for the scale of what I'm running, offloading the heavy lifting to the clients makes far more sense. For what I think is needed, are the files to be sorted case insensitive on the page, fast to load and then let the browser search functions (which are also case insensitive) jump to the correct locations on the page.

Now clean up... there are quite a lot. I've done a count, and there are about 240,000 files with the junk names (of a total of about 850,000).
If I also remove the olde index.html files that are showing the file structure, that's a further 40,000 files to remove... so that's 280,000 files to remove.

Caution is key here! And many backups!

- Foz

[Foz “Jaxah” Tacticus]

I had an email asking to post the magnet link - it is on the front page of xefig.com, but here it is as well:

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:7f5bcfa645cf79fd5778f394a837a7e0bc92e8a3&dn=www.asstr.org.rar&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A80%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.opentrackr.org%3A1337%2Fannounce

[Y Lee Coyote]

On Thu, 29 Sep 2022 02:10:20 -0700 (PDT), Foz “Jaxah” Tacticus
<fozz...@gmail.com> wrote in
<e3e947c9-0964-4b45...@googlegroups.com>:

<snip>

>The www folders, may or may not exist. In the case of the BobbyIncest, the www folder doesn't exist, whereas with the Mward and your own folder does have it - my point was that the index.html files already in there displaying a folder structure isn't quite correct (plus the junk files that are not displayed), along with being a
hinderance in navigating (not good for mobile phone use).

You are correct. I'll just note that the www folder exists with content
when the owner uploaded html files to it but is otherwise empty.

>I can probably do an ~alias, but I don't think something like that is needed for this legacy viewer? Is that a needed thing do you think?

A simple alternative. When a url like xefig.com/~abcdef/xxx is used just
convert it to xefig.com/file/Author/abcdef/www/xxx. You also need to
check if it is Collection rather than Author.

>Ah, the search function... that would certainly bump up the scale of this little project - there are a LOT of files and folders!

Nothing that complex. An entry sort of page where the user can enter what
(s)he thnks is the corrected name and the search is done only in that
initial list of authors. Only a little bit of JS to delete the lines that
do not contain the entered name ignoring case. Then the user can pick the
right one. I've send an example to your email.

Searching for an author in the collections is a much harder task -- one to
two orders of magnatude harder! If you let Google & Bing index the site
then they can handle it.

>Not ideal, but for the scale of what I'm running, offloading the heavy lifting to the clients makes far more sense. For what I think is needed, are the files to be sorted case insensitive on the page, fast to load and then let the browser search functions (which are also case insensitive) jump to the correct locations on the page.

The browser search funtion does not have wild cards.

>Now clean up... there are quite a lot. I've done a count, and there are about 240,000 files with the junk names (of a total of about 850,000).
>If I also remove the olde index.html files that are showing the file structure, that's a further 40,000 files to remove... so that's 280,000 files to remove.

The advantage is that it only has to be done once and then everything is
faster. You obviously have figured out how to scan the entire thing so
just add delete file/folder. I say that with great ignorance of how that
needs to be implimented.

>Caution is key here! And many backups!

Amen.


Y.

Valid return address is <YLeeCoyote (at) juno.com>
(Posting address is for the spammers)

See my stories at: https://yleecoyote.asslr.org/
Status page at: https://yleecoyote.weebly.com/

P & E

[Kairu Hakubi]

Bless you. I hope someone is backing this stuff up, because it seems like archives are purging it. I couldn't find it under the url with ~LS in it and it said that URL has been excluded.

[Foz “Jaxah” Tacticus]

Alvo Torelli has set up shop on ASSLR: https://alvotorelli.asslr.org/
Loliwood Studios, I wasn't sure, but it's hidden on my xefig archive: https://xefig.com/asstr.org/Authors/LS/www/