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Shon Richards
"BlankReg" <topog...@SPAMTHISrcn.com> wrote in message
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> Can someone post all chapters?
>
@#$@$#$@$%^%^^#%^&&$$&(*$@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I feel better now.
--
Head Warlock of the Coven of Bliss
Shon Richards
Adventure Stories of Mine and Others can be found at
http://www.asstr.org/~ShonRichards/
Romance Stories of mine are hosted by Gary at http://www.asstr.org/~gary/
"The only problem with a bottomless pit is that you don't get that
satisfying 'thud' sound."
Michael Dalton
>Can someone post all chapters?
Someone probably can, but then I won't like them as much.
Incidentally, there's an illustrated version out there now; see the first site
in my sig line.
Michael
~Stories and More~
http://www.RuthiesClub.com
~pointless self-indulgences~
http://members.aol.com/michaeld38
Michael Dalton
>@#$@$#$@$%^%^^#%^&&$$&(*$@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> I feel better now.
Oddly, I don't.
Shon Richards
"Michael Dalton" <micha...@aol.come2Ruthie> wrote in message
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> Shon opined:
>
> >@#$@$#$@$%^%^^#%^&&$$&(*$@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > I feel better now.
>
> Oddly, I don't.
>
> Michael
>
It's frustrating to me just because I like Ruthie's club. I think it is
excellent and that has nothing to do with the fact that I have stories
there. :) I just can't figure out how every single person that wants the
cheerleaders doesn't know about RC by now. Okay, I can figure it out but it
still annoys me. First of all, it was directed at ASSM so odds are, they'll
never see the responses in ASSD. Second of all, it makes me realize the
catch-22 of ASSTR. The easy thing to do would be to put a pointer under
your old ASSTR address, but that clashes with the non-advertising policy of
ASSTR.
Oh well, at least we still have "Faith, Hope and Charity"
Michael Dalton
>Oh well, at least we still have "Faith, Hope and Charity"
Just in case there is any confusion--Shon is referring to the most recent
Bissell novel to hit RC, a convoluted bondage saga that has little in common
with CGC. If anyone cares, that is. <g>
Michael
~Stories and More~
http://www.RuthiesClub.com
~confessions of a pop culture addict~
http://members.aol.com/michaeld38
Jonathan Brady
(in message
<Nbzh8.41746$0C1.3...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>):
> It's frustrating to me just because I like Ruthie's club. I think
> it is excellent and that has nothing to do with the fact that I
> have stories there. :) I just can't figure out how every single
> person that wants the cheerleaders doesn't know about RC by now.
Most people frequenting ASS, ASSD and ASSM by now know about RC but
not many will subscribe. I got a trial subscription and to me it was
not worth it. Quite honestly it's too expensive for what it offers.
I know that authors do deserve to make money from their work and
every author should get the opportunity to do so. But the way that RC
works and the amount of money they charge it feels like a rip off.
They update the site with new stories and chapters every Monday. And
the week that I got for $5, I got 4 stories (2 from the previous week
and two more when they updated on monday) and two chapters in couple
of serials that would have cost me an arm and a leg to keep up with
at the rate that they post.
I know it's not the quantity that matters, it's the quality, but
honestly, with great respect to Michael D. and the people at Ruthie's
Club, what I got in that week was not better than what I would find
at ASSM almost any day. True that the works were illustrated (one
picture per story or story part, some had 2 pictures), but really,
who subscribes for the pictures? Most people would pay for a good
story, and some would actually pay once to see the pictures, but if
my experience is somewhat typical, not many people would come back
for more.
While the pictures were nice, they didn't add anything to the
experience, actually to me they detracted from the enjoyment of the
story in that they didn't enhance my mental view of the story's
atmosphere, in fact they kind of obliterated my own mental image of
the story. Now I avoid stories with pictures because they never live
up to the way that the author weaves the story with words, remember
it's not always true that a picture is worth a thousand words.
$20 per month for what I saw is much too much. And they don't even
have a decent archive of their older stuff, unless those few stories
that pretend to make an archive are actually their archive.
So don't be surprised when people ask for reposts and refuse to go to
the site.
I wish all the people who are associated with RC the best of luck and
hopefully their venture would pay off and be very successful, but to
me it was a total disappointment. I went there looking to get blown
away by the great stories and the great presentation, but alas...
--
J Brady
Michael Dalton
>Most people frequenting ASS, ASSD and ASSM by now know
>about RC but not many will subscribe.
Actually--and this was a surprise to us too, because we thought most people
were used to free stories and would be resistant to paying for them--the large
majority of our subscribers have come from ASS*.
Not everyone likes illustrated stories, but some people do, and those are the
ones who've stuck around. Me, I happen to like them, but then I've always been
into comics and graphic novels.
Duran Castore
"BlankReg" <topog...@SPAMTHISrcn.com> escreveu na mensagem
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> Can someone post all chapters?
I can't, paying respect to the author, Michael Dalton.
But Google Groups is your friend; please do a search.
Regards,
Duran Castore.
Jonathan Brady
(in message <20020307130849...@mb-cg.aol.com>):
> Jonathan Brady opined:
>
>> Most people frequenting ASS, ASSD and ASSM by now know
>> about RC but not many will subscribe.
>
> Actually--and this was a surprise to us too, because we thought
> most people were used to free stories and would be resistant to
> paying for them--the large majority of our subscribers have come
> from ASS*.
It's not the paying for stories, it's mostly the expectation. I went
to RC knowing how much it costs and willing to pay even though I had
access to several story sites from asstr to assm to storiesonline (I
have premier membership there), so I am one of those people who came
from ASS and ASSM to RC. It's what I found at RC that was a turn off.
In my opinion it was too little content for too much (by the way you
have the highest price of any site that I have ever purchased a
membership for, or actually encountered on the net).
I expected to at least find all your stories archived there
considering that they were all posted to ASSM and various places on
the internet previously, but I didn't even find those (not even in
primitive formatting and without illustrations), nor did I find any
old works from the other authors that moved to RC (Drspin, Jack).
Two stories (that one may or may not like) and two chapters per week
is too little for your asking price, compared to what one could find
at other pay sites.
> Not everyone likes illustrated stories, but some people do, and
> those are the ones who've stuck around. Me, I happen to like them,
> but then I've always been into comics and graphic novels.
Of course to each his own. Some people will pay to see those
pictures.
However, the most satisfaction that readers will derive would be from
the stories themselves. A reader will probably look at the picture
for maybe five seconds, but he will spend way more time reading the
story. To me, the way that you write the stories, for example in CGC
and Vector, is worth 10,000 pictures.
I went there for the stories that I was hoping to find and was
disappointed because I found more flash than substance.
--
J Brady
DrSpin
said...
>
>On Thu, 7 Mar 2002 13:08:49 -0500, Michael Dalton wrote
>(in message <20020307130849...@mb-cg.aol.com>):
>
>> most people were used to free stories and would be resistant to
>> paying for them--the large majority of our subscribers have come
>> from ASS*.
>
>considering that they were all posted to ASSM and various places on
>the internet previously, but I didn't even find those (not even in
>primitive formatting and without illustrations), nor did I find any
>old works from the other authors that moved to RC (Drspin, Jack).
The Archives section at Ruthie's Club contains (I just counted) 114
stories by me, Michael Dalton, Richard Bissell, EZ, Jekyll, Nicholas
Urfe, Al Steiner, many others. Now, I'm counting as one a story like
Call Girl Cheerleaders by RB, which actually has 42 chapters. Orange
County Babylon has 33 chapters, Aftermath by Al Steiner 13 chapters.
In the Archives there are 30 stories by Michael Dalton/Richard Bissell,
30 by me, 11 by Jack of All Trades. The Archives contain ALL the new
stories written by authors for Ruthie's Club and many of the stories
published elsewhere. Eventually all previous stories will be there.
I can talk about me, for example. I have written 16 Ace Dyson stories.
Six have appeared at ASSM, another 10 at Ruthie's Club. All are archived
at Ruthie's Club in the Ace Dyson nook. You jump there from the
front end menu.
I have 34 stories at Ruthie's Club not published elsewhere. The one
running this week is "Belles of the Bali Ball", a new Ace Dyson story
in 9400 words.
There's getting close to 1 million words available to read at Ruthie's
Club - and more than 30,000 new words every week.
Jonathon must be one hell of a speed reader. That, or he never managed
to find the Archives section.
DrSpin
* also at ne...@ruthiesclub.com and at http://www.ruthiesclub.com
Jonathan Brady
(in message <a69gk...@drn.newsguy.com>):
> Jonathon must be one hell of a speed reader. That, or he never managed
> to find the Archives section.
Not a speed reader and I found the Archives section. My experience
was about three or four months ago and there was none of what you're
talking about. Glad to hear that things are improving. Maybe I'll
give RC another chance in another four or five months to impress me
and if you do, then I'll gladly keep a membership there.
--
J Brady
Michael Dalton
>Not a speed reader and I found the Archives section. My experience
>was about three or four months ago and there was none of what you're
>talking about. Glad to hear that things are improving.
It did indeed take us a little while to get the Archives up to speed because we
were focused on getting the new stuff presented. We figured the number of
people who would pay for stuff they had read before was quite limited and that
the long-term appeal of RC was in the new stories. So the Archives were a
secondary priority. But we've worked hard to get the old stuff in there, and
although it's not complete, it is indeed in much better shape than it was 3 or
4 months ago.
David Yellope
Dalton) wrote:
Michael, I know that this question has been asked of the lovely and
talented Ruthie.. but I found myself disappointed in the answer.. I
love the illuminated stories, but.. what to do when I'm not online? I
was hoping that you'd present either a plain text version or even the
illuminated version in a zip file for offline reading.
I know this would probably lead to "bad things" with regards to story
thieves, but at least you'd have a clear cut case there to have them
shut down. I hope you and the other Ruthie's Club writers at least
consider this as an option.
A Loyal subscriber to the club...
SirFozzie
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Allison George
Jonathan Brady <jbra...@killspam.mac.com> wrote in message
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>
> It's not the paying for stories, it's mostly the expectation. I went
> to RC knowing how much it costs and willing to pay even though I had
> access to several story sites from asstr to assm to storiesonline (I
> have premier membership there), so I am one of those people who came
> from ASS and ASSM to RC. It's what I found at RC that was a turn off.
> In my opinion it was too little content for too much (by the way you
> have the highest price of any site that I have ever purchased a
> membership for, or actually encountered on the net).
My stories will continue to be free to all who care to read them. I don't
need the pocket change (even with the kid on the way).
ciao,
Allison
DrSpin
>
>Michael, I know that this question has been asked of the lovely and
>talented Ruthie.. but I found myself disappointed in the answer.. I
>love the illuminated stories, but.. what to do when I'm not online? I
>was hoping that you'd present either a plain text version or even the
>illuminated version in a zip file for offline reading.
For offline or later reading, David, I recommend saving the relevant
page as an HTML file. Your word processor can read this, including the
illustrations, at any later stage. That's what I do. I can't spend all
that time online reading Michael Dalton's latest novel (which he seems
to produce at the rate of one per month).
At a lesser level, you can simply cut and paste the text. There is no
restriction on that or any right button clicking at Ruthie's Club.
It's in your hands, David.
regards
Rey del Sexo
<jbra...@killspam.mac.com> wrote:
>...
>While the pictures were nice, they didn't add anything to the
>experience, actually to me they detracted from the enjoyment of the
>story in that they didn't enhance my mental view of the story's
>atmosphere, in fact they kind of obliterated my own mental image of
>the story. Now I avoid stories with pictures because they never live
>...
As a compliment to MichaelD and other talented authors, I need
to agree with you here. When I was reading Orange County Babylon or
CGC, I was letting Michael take me by the hand and tell me little bits
and pieces about the girls in the story, but for the most part I was
putting my imagination into overdrive to dream of how beautiful the
different characters were.
- RDS
Jeff Zephyr
Illustration is kind of like having a movie version of the story
fill in the mental images. With a movie, we get a lot more than just
images so the effect is stronger, but either fills in things which the
reader is otherwise forced to imagine.
Your own imagined images aren't likely to match any illustrations.
Sometimes they can be very useful, though. A lot of books are
illustrated, and it doesn't seem to ruin them.
But it can be confusing. Tolkien's books have had a lot of
illustrations done for them, being popular, whereas the original
lacked illustration. The images differ, sometimes by a great deal.
Which is the real image -- the illustration, or the imaginary image
drawn from the illustration?
I do think that illustrations are nice when they are part of the
original creation. Some stories get inspired by pictures, and in that
case the illustrations would be pretty exact as representations of the
author's visions.
Some people are more visually oriented as well, and may enjoy the
story more with images to guide them. I'm not one of those, but that
doesn't mean there aren't people out there who greatly appreciate the
help with imagining the characters.
--
Jeff
Web site at http://www.asstr.org/~jeffzephyr/
For FTP, ftp://ftp.asstr.org/pub/Authors/jeffzephyr/
There is nothing more important than petting the cat.
Jacques LeBlanc
> But it can be confusing. Tolkien's books have had a lot of
> illustrations done for them, being popular, whereas the original
> lacked illustration.
Not all of them; Tolkien did several illustrations for "The Hobbit,"
and quite a lot for "The Father Christmas Letters." If you've never
seen the edition of "The Hobbit" with his illustrations, I highly
recommend looking for it at your local book store. It's a hardcover
with green imitation leather binding and heavy, parchment-like pages
with rough-cut edges -- in other words, a book that would look
perfectly at home in Bilbo Baggins's library at Bag End.
Later,
Jacques
Jeff Zephyr
wrote:
No, I haven't seen those versions. That does sound nice.
Jacques LeBlanc
> >Not all of them; Tolkien did several illustrations for "The Hobbit,"
> >and quite a lot for "The Father Christmas Letters." If you've never
> >seen the edition of "The Hobbit" with his illustrations, I highly
> >recommend looking for it at your local book store. It's a hardcover
> >with green imitation leather binding and heavy, parchment-like pages
> >with rough-cut edges -- in other words, a book that would look
> >perfectly at home in Bilbo Baggins's library at Bag End.
>
> No, I haven't seen those versions. That does sound nice.
You can order it from Amazon at http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0395177111/.
Later,
Jacques