Fist Fucking
ssch...@infinet.com
> My submissive partner has recently taken an interest in fist fucking.
> Unfortunately, neither she nor I have any experience in this area.
> Any suggestions on how to begin?
Very slowly.
Seriously. I'm not an expert, having only been sucessfully fist-fucked a
few times, but that may also help me in giving advice.
The first person who did it had rather small hands, which certainly made
it easier. Mastercat's hands are ver large and his fingers are very long,
which has made it difficult for us.
So. First, get some VERY GOOD lube. Not just KY, but something very very
slick. We use Elbow Grease. Second, wear a glove. For the obvious reasons,
yes, but also just because a glove will get slicker than your arm.
It's important to have your hand in the right position, which is the
"bird." Put all your fingers tightly together, then place your thumb
(straight) against the palm of your hand. Now your hard looks like a
bird's head (sort-of.)
After that, all I can say is to go carefully and slowly, because at that
point, I can't really see what's going on. <g>
Hope that helps,
Perrrfect
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topazzz
>In article <233432Z...@anon.penet.fi>, an19...@anon.penet.fi wrote:
>> My submissive partner has recently taken an interest in fist fucking.
>> Unfortunately, neither she nor I have any experience in this area.
>> Any suggestions on how to begin?
>Very slowly.
>
>Seriously. I'm not an expert, having only been sucessfully fist-fucked a
>few times, but that may also help me in giving advice.
There is an incredible woman who sometimes posts here who could write the
book on this subject as far as I'm concerned *sigh* *mooan*. I had very
little experience with being fisted and was very anxious when this woman
transported me to ecstasy with her hands and her voice.
It was at a party and there were other people around, but I was aware only
of her and of my Lady (who was holding my hand). She was gentle, both in
manner and voice, very intimate and giving and I wanted to give to her.
No, if the goal was to be completely fisted, then I failed. But she kept
insisting there was no hurry, no goal and no such thing as failure.
It was glorious. I hope the amazing woman will share her secrets:)
topazzz (remembering Arisia with delight)
Beloved, devoted, adoring, proud, obedient slave of
Marchesa Megan Sensei & Lord Alessandro "Auntie" to Ny
Sharon Fisher
>In article <233432Z...@anon.penet.fi>, an19...@anon.penet.fi wrote:
>> My submissive partner has recently taken an interest in fist fucking.
>> Unfortunately, neither she nor I have any experience in this area.
>> Any suggestions on how to begin?
First, what orifice are we talking about here?
>Very slowly.
Yes.
>So. First, get some VERY GOOD lube. Not just KY, but something very very
>slick. We use Elbow Grease.
I would disagree with this, and suggest using something water-based.
Oil-based lubes degrade latex.
>Second, wear a glove. For the obvious reasons,
>yes, but also just because a glove will get slicker than your arm.
Yes.
>It's important to have your hand in the right position, which is the
>"bird." Put all your fingers tightly together, then place your thumb
>(straight) against the palm of your hand. Now your hard looks like a
>bird's head (sort-of.)
Well, that's the way your hand ends up, eventually. Really, it tends
to work better starting one finger at a time, and ending up with all
the fingers in.
>After that, all I can say is to go carefully and slowly, because at that
>point, I can't really see what's going on. <g>
A good suggestion.
princes...@linq.com
> ssch...@infinet.com writes:
>
> >In article <233432Z...@anon.penet.fi>, an19...@anon.penet.fi
> wrote:
>
> >> My submissive partner has recently taken an interest in fist
> fucking.
> >> Unfortunately, neither she nor I have any experience in this
> area.
> >> Any suggestions on how to begin?
>
> >Very slowly.
> >
> >Seriously. I'm not an expert, having only been sucessfully
> fist-fucked a
> >few times, but that may also help me in giving advice.
>
Preparing one for fisting (anally) takes great patience, religous (*repetitive)
practice, and knowing the human anal anatomy is a must. One can kill a partner
if it isn't administered carefully.
One day when I have some time, I'll post on this base a text that I will write
about it and u/l. I do fist anally few of my subjects. Many took at least a
full year before thay had my full hand and wrist in them.
Royally yours,
Princess Sheeba
Dryada
says...
>In article <233432Z...@anon.penet.fi>, an19...@anon.penet.fi wrote:
>> My submissive partner has recently taken an interest in fist fucking.
>> Unfortunately, neither she nor I have any experience in this area.
>> Any suggestions on how to begin?
>Very slowly.
>Seriously. I'm not an expert, having only been sucessfully fist-fucked a
>few times, but that may also help me in giving advice.
>The first person who did it had rather small hands, which certainly made
>it easier. Mastercat's hands are ver large and his fingers are very long,
>which has made it difficult for us.
>So. First, get some VERY GOOD lube. Not just KY, but something very very
>slick. We use Elbow Grease. Second, wear a glove. For the obvious reasons,
>yes, but also just because a glove will get slicker than your arm.
>It's important to have your hand in the right position, which is the
>"bird." Put all your fingers tightly together, then place your thumb
>(straight) against the palm of your hand. Now your hard looks like a
>bird's head (sort-of.)
>After that, all I can say is to go carefully and slowly, because at that
>point, I can't really see what's going on. <g>
Three points of difference --- we are talking about vaginal fisting of a
woman, are we not?
#1 - Gloves are only relevant if you are concerned about STDs or don't
trim your nails. If we are talking about monogamous and tested partners
who trim their nails, or careful (as in being careful not to go too fast
and cause any damage that may result in blood, tears, etc.) partners who
trim their nails, there is no reason for them with vaginal fisting.
However, with anal fisting I cannot see a way "out" other than monogamous
and tested partners.
#2 - Though the hand position you describe is fine, one should start, in
my opinion (and in the opinion of the workshop leaders of a sex workshop
I attended), with one finger, inserted thoroughly (concentrate on reaching
the "g-spot" area, see alt.sex.wizards), then two, etc., i.e., build up
slowly. Things stretch appropriately and you get a better "feel" for
what you are doing along the way, no pun intended (though it is there,
what can I say?).
#3 - Elbow grease??? I would think KY would be fine, but I have done
fine with just the "naturally available" lubrication. Of course, I do
have very small hands.
Now, anal fisting is something I haven't tried, but I assume that you
would follow the above and go slower still.
Love,
Dryada
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Sharon Fisher
>Three points of difference --- we are talking about vaginal fisting of a
>woman, are we not?
That's not at all clear to me. Some of the stuff posted in this
thread has been about anal, some about vaginal, and some fairly
nondenominational.
>#1 - Gloves are only relevant if you are concerned about STDs
Are you suggesting that there are people who are not?
>or don't
>trim your nails. If we are talking about monogamous and tested partners
>who trim their nails, or careful (as in being careful not to go too fast
>and cause any damage that may result in blood, tears, etc.) partners who
>trim their nails, there is no reason for them with vaginal fisting.
>However, with anal fisting I cannot see a way "out" other than monogamous
>and tested partners.
I disagree, by which I mean I *always* use gloves. However, what you
do is up to you.
>#3 - Elbow grease??? I would think KY would be fine, but I have done
>fine with just the "naturally available" lubrication. Of course, I do
>have very small hands.
I have very small hands, and I *always* use lube. Gobs. Gallons. I
don't care about lubricated the woman is; things can go very quickly
from 'fine' to 'ow' and I just don't want to have to worry about that.
amy young-leith
<ssch...@infinet.com> wrote:
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>It's important to have your hand in the right position, which is the
>"bird." Put all your fingers tightly together, then place your thumb
>(straight) against the palm of your hand. Now your hard looks like a
>bird's head (sort-of.)
Hmmm. This visual aid just isn't doing it for me. I just can't see
it. =)
amy
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ssch...@infinet.com
Says so right on the label.
We've found for MANY things, it is "wetter" and slicker than KY.
Your mileage may, of course, vary.
Perrrfect
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John Warren
: In article <sschwartz-080...@p16.infinet.com>,
: <ssch...@infinet.com> wrote:
: [...]
: >It's important to have your hand in the right position, which is the
: >"bird." Put all your fingers tightly together, then place your thumb
: >(straight) against the palm of your hand. Now your hard looks like a
: >bird's head (sort-of.)
: Hmmm. This visual aid just isn't doing it for me. I just can't see
: it. =)
Hold you hand straight up in front of you with the palm toward you. Move
the little finger a bit toward you and then fold it as far as you can in
front of the ring finger. Do the same thing with the index finger over
the middle finger. Now bring the thumb across the palm until it is
touching the base of the index finger.
Insert and agitate.
Enjoy
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princes...@linq.com
> #1 - Gloves are only relevant if you are concerned about STDs or
> don't
> trim your nails. If we are talking about monogamous and tested
> partners
> who trim their nails, or careful (as in being careful not to go too
> fast
> and cause any damage that may result in blood, tears, etc.) partners
> who
> trim their nails, there is no reason for them with vaginal fisting.
>
> However, with anal fisting I cannot see a way "out" other than
> monogamous
> and tested partners.
>
GLOVES!!! Although a vagina is full of various bacterias that live there, they
are quite diffrent than outside bacterias that we do have all over. I my humble
opinion, gloves aren't just for STD tramissions, yet a way of more mutual
security for both.
As for Anal fisting... I am not saying fist everyone without knowing about
them. Yet with thick protective gloves one shouldn't be worried. Also never use
the same finger on the vagina or a pussy without cleaning it, right after an
act of entering an anal orifice. That can cause other type of vaginal
infections, and it's much commonly practiced. Also Hepatistis B is more widely
spread among scene players than Aids. You don't need to fist or intercours
someone to catch Hepatistis B. Just the use of a toy (whips etc) can transmit
Hepatistis B. The best precaution for this to get your vactination for it.
Royally yours,
Princess Sheeba
L Antoniou
lube of your choice (remember, oil in the butt only!) - try vinyl or
poly-gloves, also available at your local medical supply store, and at
many hobby or construction/home improvement stores. (I got a box of 50
vinyl gloves at a Channel store for $4) They're thicker and tougher, and
don't quite snap on your hand the same way, but I feel no great difference
from the inside, and neither has the partner I tried them with. (YMMV)
Also - there may be a dusting of a light powder inside of a latex
glove. If there is, do *not* wipe your eyes with your unrinsed hand after
you take the glove off. That powder is to make it easier to get the glove
on and off - it's like talc. Getting it in your eyes can be a real
nonconsensual crying scene.
(All these things you have to remember!)
Laura Antoniou aka Sara Adamson
tale-spinner, editor, outsider
princes...@linq.com
>
> >Elbow Grease is probably (haven't read the label m'self)
> >*oil* based (and therefore eats latex), but has
> >something added to it (glycerin?) that makes it water-
> >soluble and therefore easier to clean up. But still
> >unsafe to mix with latex products.
>
> Thanks for the clarification, Lori. The last time I'd looked at
> Elbo
> Grease, I recalled its label saying that it had oil in it, or that
> it
> wasn't safe to use with latex, but that was a while ago and I
> thought
> perhaps it had changed since I'd seen it.
In the more experienced gay fisting circles I saw, they use Crisco.
Charles Haynes
>Says so right on the label.
Water Soluble is not the same as water based. Elbow Grease contains
oils. Says so right on the label.
Elbow Grease will degrade latex. What you do with that information is,
as always, a personal choice.
-- Charles
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Charles Haynes
Among anal fisters I know Crisco is still very popular. So are latex
gloves. Some people change gloves every 10-20 minutes, some claim to
not have problems. I personally use J-lube, which is water based and
can be made in whatever quantity and consistency you prefer. A $7
bottle of J-lube will make around 7 gallons of lube.
I buy J-lube from Nasco, you can find ordering info on my home page.
-- Charles
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princes...@linq.com
>
> >In the more experienced gay fisting circles I saw, they use Crisco.
>
> True, Crisco is the quintessential anal fisting lube. However, it
> is
> oil-based and is not safe to use with latex.
I must agree with this point, the gay couples were monagomous and didn't use
any latex gloves.