ASB acronyms (periodic post)

Frites

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Jul 10, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/10/96

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Many of the acronyms below are used throughout the net. The emphasis
of this list, however, is to cover the acronyms that are commonly used
in one newsgroup: alt.sex.bondage (ASB). My goal is to help make the
postings in that group understandable to those new to the group. There
will always be some uncommon acronyms that aren't on this list, and
I may miss some others. I'm trying to keep the list as short as possible
while still achieving adequate coverage.
Note that the exact translation of some of these is subject to some
dispute. IMHO, the definitions here are close enough to get the idea
across, even if you disagree about the exact wording.
Also note that some of these acronyms have more than one possible
translation. Context is often critical to correct interpretation.
Given the choice, I'd prefer to have corrections and arguments via
Email, rather than starting another long thread about acronyms.
Frites (an9...@anon.penet.fi)
(Pronounced Freets)

ABPE* Alt.Binaries.Pictures.Erotica.* (.bondage, .leather, etc.)
ADD Attention Defecit Disorder
AFAIK/AFIK As Far as I Know
AKA Also Known As
ABP* alt.binaries.pictures.*
ASAP As Soon As Possible
ASB usually: alt.sex.bondage, sometimes: alt.sex.bestiality
ASS alt.sex.spanking/stories/services (context!)
ASF* alt.sex.fetish.*
ASFD alt.sex.femdom/ alt.sex.fetish.diapers
APB alt.personals.bondage
B&D Bondage and Discipline
BBS Bulletin Board System
BDSM B&D & D&S & S&M
BDSMLMNOP BDSM and whatever else we might do
BFP Bound For Pleasure (a BBS)
BTW By The Way
CB or C+B Cock & Ball
CBT Cock & Ball Torture
CHUDWAH Clueless Heterosexual Dom WAnnabe (The U is an extra freebee)
CHUSWAH Clueless Heterosexual Sub WAnnabe
CIS Complete and Irrevocable Submission
CNC Consensual Non-Consent
CP Corporal Punishment
CTS Carpal Tunnel Syndrome
D&S or D/s Domination & Submission
DKF Dreaded Koosh Flogger
FAQ Frequently Asked Question(s)
F2F Face to Face
FYI For Your Information
FWIW For What It's Worth
HNG Horny Net Geek
IAP Internet Access Provider
IMAO In My Arrogant Opinion
IME In My Experience
IMHO In My Humble Opinion
IMNSHO In My Not So Humble Opinion
IMO In My Opinion
IMX In My eXperience (perferred form: IME)
IRC Internet Relay Chat
IRT In Reply To, In Regards To
ISO In Search Of
ITMT In The MeanTime
LOL Laughing Out Loud (usual) Lots Of Luck (rare)
LTR # Long Term Relationship
MOTAS/OS/SS Member of the Appropriate Sex/ Opposite Sex/ Same sex
NC Non-Consensual
NG * News Group
NLA National Leather Association
OTOH On The Other Hand
OTW * One True Way
PDA Public Displays of Affection
PISS Passive Ignorance Silence Strike
PITA Pain In the Ass
RL Real Life (as opposed to net.life)
ROFL Rolling On the Floor Laughing
RTFM Read the F*ing Manual
SM or S&M Sadism & Masochism; sadomasochism; Sexual Magick
SO Significant Other
SQO Some Quantity Of
SSC Safe, Sane, Consensual
TES The Eulenspiegel Society
TIA Thanks In Advance
TLA Three Letter Acronym
TPE Total Power Exchange
TPTB The Powers That Be
TTFN Ta Ta For Now
TV also stands for TransVestite
V/A Verbal Abuse
VBG Very Big Grin
Wiitwd(h) What it is that we do (here)
WRT With Respect To
YKINMK Your Kink Is Not My Kink
YKINOK Your Kink Is Not Okay
YKIOK,IJNMK Your Kink is OK, It's Just Not My Kink
YMMV Your Mileage May Vary
<g> grin (or <G> big grin)
!= Not equal to
:-) A "smiley" face (sideways); there are lots of variations

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If these acronyms are new to you, then there are two other things you
probably should read. The "Welcome to ASB" contains valuable information
about this (ASB) newsgroup and BDSM on the net. The ASB FAQ contains
lots of good information on what BDSM is and the actual practice of
it, including safety information. Both are available via gopher to
//unix.tpe.com/11/outreach/online/usenet/bondage or Web page
www.tpe.com (Select "sm leather & Fetish community outreach",
"online SM", "leather and Fetish Resources", "Usenet Newsgroups".
The FAQ is also available via FTP from rtfm.mit.edu
(/pub/usenet-by-group/alt.sex.bondage) or web page
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julie

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Jul 11, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/11/96

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an9...@anon.penet.fi (Frites) provided a list that included, in part:

>TPE Total Power Exchange

So, I'm reading this ng for the first time, and I grok that John
Warren is a champion or proponent in the TPE debate. It is, however,
beyond me what the larger issue is. Only on USENET, can people argue
endlessly over the objective merits of the most subjective of issues.

So what exactly, is, the whole TPE issue? I'm not totally clueless, I
get a feeling it's related to minimal freewill vs. submission as an
absolute. Why do I get the dreadful feeling that I'm going to get a
mass mailing of the asb FAQ?

Wonder

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Jul 11, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/11/96

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julie (over...@clark.net) wrote:
: an9...@anon.penet.fi (Frites) provided a list that included, in part:
:
: >TPE Total Power Exchange
:
: So what exactly, is, the whole TPE issue? I'm not totally clueless, I

: get a feeling it's related to minimal freewill vs. submission as an
: absolute. Why do I get the dreadful feeling that I'm going to get a
: mass mailing of the asb FAQ?

Well, if you are gonna get that, it's not from me. But i will attempt to
explain the debate as nicely as possible. I'm gonna try to be neutral
here, as much as possible.

TPE, or Total Power Exchange, is a relationship wherein the Submissive
member (hereinafter the 'slave') gives to the Dominant member (hereinafter
the 'Master' (regardless of sex, I've seen male Masters, I've seen female
Masters, I'm gonna use one word, please don't accuse me of being sexist) )
as complete a control over every possible decision within the
relationship.

Needless to say, this is not for everyone. Those slaves who cannot deal
with more or less complete powerlessness and potential capriciousness
should not apply. Neither should those Masters who are unable or
unwilling to accept total responsibility for another person's very
existance.

Nobody (at least nobody that I have seen) denies that relationships which
claim this title work for their members, and that therefore this is a
"good thing" <tm>. The debate is on the fringes of the definition of
"complete" control. Could the Dom, if they wished, kill the sub? TPErs
say taht this is a nonissue, although if it were an issue then yes they
certainly would have this power. Non-TPErs say "whoa, hold the phone, you
can't allow someone else tyo kill you".

Most of the nastyness has been because of a potentially ill-formed, or
potentially misunderstood, comment by one member of the TPE camp. She
claimed that activites which were not TPE were "fake D/s". As is typical
when an activity near and dear to someone's heart is attacked, this evoked
response that was, to say the least, negative.

A few people (myself included) felt the need to point out the evidently
inherent dislogic in calling an experience "fake".

At this point, it appears to be dying down, with the apparent resolution
that nobody's opinions were grossly changed, and a lot of bandwidth was
burned up. IMO, let it die the death it deserves. Those who want to
claim TPE can, those who don't don't have to. Everything is as real as is
necessary to those who engage in the activity. There is no such thing as
"fake D/s", a nonabsolute relationship just isn't "TPE D/s". No biggie.

I hope this helps, at least some,

wonder

Lolita TES

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Jul 12, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/12/96

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In article <4s1lrg$q...@clarknet.clark.net>, over...@clark.net (julie)
writes:

>an9...@anon.penet.fi (Frites) provided a list that included, in part:
>
>>TPE Total Power Exchange
>

>So, I'm reading this ng for the first time, and I grok that John
>Warren is a champion or proponent in the TPE debate. It is, however,

No, it's not John Warren, it's Jon Jacobs. But don't worry, Gangsta Karen
will set you straight on all these TPE matters. ;-)

Lolita speaking only for Lolita

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LOUISE MW

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Jul 12, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/12/96

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In article <4s5684$k...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, loli...@aol.com (Lolita
TES) writes:

>In article <4s1lrg$q...@clarknet.clark.net>, over...@clark.net (julie)
>writes:
>
>>an9...@anon.penet.fi (Frites) provided a list that included, in part:
>>
>>>TPE Total Power Exchange
>>
>>So, I'm reading this ng for the first time, and I grok that John
>>Warren is a champion or proponent in the TPE debate. It is, however,
>
>No, it's not John Warren, it's Jon Jacobs. But don't worry, Gangsta
Karen
>will set you straight on all these TPE matters. ;-)

LOL! I thought about it, but waited to see if Jon Jacobs would <g>.
Well, I need not bother about it now.

Gangster Karen

Sexist Cult of JJ, Class of '96

(It's a joke Garm! <g> I'm still:
Submissive, Not Stupid!)

LOUISE MW

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Jul 12, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/12/96

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In article <4s1lrg$q...@clarknet.clark.net>, over...@clark.net (julie)
writes:

>So what exactly, is, the whole TPE issue? I'm not totally clueless, I

>get a feeling it's related to minimal freewill vs. submission as an
>absolute. Why do I get the dreadful feeling that I'm going to get a
>mass mailing of the asb FAQ?

TPE = total power exchange. It is sometimes referred to as an absolute
relationship. The participants in a TPE seem to have an erotic fixation
of the real life conditions of power or powerlessness, what I sometimes
have called a *power kink*. It is their primary kink. They tend to a
fanatical adherence to an *absolute* in dominance and submissive that
frequently sets them at odds with the concepts of "safe, sane, and
consentual" as promoted by many others on asb. In a TPE consent is given
exactly once and never again. The submissive has no ability (removed by
an actual conspiracy of the part of both parties to the relatioship to
alter the submissive's perception of self) to exit the relationship of her
own accord. These relationships exit between people who have compatible
needs in this area, are no less loving than other serious relationships,
but are characterized by an extreme commitment to achieve actual
enslavement of the submissive, that far transcends any consideration of
what they do in "scene." They are intended to be permanent, they are
24/7, and that are all inclusive (no area of the submissive's life is
exempt from the control of the dominant partner). They sure aren't for
everybody, but they are for some people, and for those who have the *power
kink* they are probably the only way to be happy.

John Warren

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Jul 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/15/96

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Lolita TES (loli...@aol.com) wrote:
: In article <4s1lrg$q...@clarknet.clark.net>, over...@clark.net (julie)
: writes:

: >an9...@anon.penet.fi (Frites) provided a list that included, in part:

: >
: >>TPE Total Power Exchange
: >
: >So, I'm reading this ng for the first time, and I grok that John
: >Warren is a champion or proponent in the TPE debate. It is, however,

: No, it's not John Warren, it's Jon Jacobs. But don't worry, Gangsta Karen
: will set you straight on all these TPE matters. ;-)

Thank you, Lolita!!!!! I don't usually read TPE topics. However, I just
got a call about this post, but I've seen that you have already taken
care of it. <many hugs... and a pinch or two)

Soulhuntre

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Jul 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/15/96

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loui...@aol.com (LOUISE MW) wrote:
>TPE = total power exchange. It is sometimes referred to as an absolute
>relationship. The participants in a TPE seem to have an erotic fixation

<snip>

Damn.

It is posts like this one that remind me just how much I do agree with
the type of relationship Karen describes. Wonder was correct in the
assertation the some of us disagree with JJ/Karen on this topic only
on the *fringes*.

So tantalizingly close. 99.99999%.

In fact, the only part of this in question is the following:

>The submissive has no ability (removed by an actual conspiracy

>of the part of both parties to the relationship to alter the submissive's

>perception of self) to exit the relationship of her own accord.

So I tried to think of the minimal possible change. I tried:

"The submissive has no ability (removed by an actual conspiracy

of the part of both parties to the relationship to alter the

submissive's perception of self) to exit the relationship of her own

accord. This commitment is limited only by the boundries of human
willpower and lower brain reflex."

It's not perfect .. but it is close.

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posts to the people I am replying to. Just so
you know :)

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