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robb

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Apr 6, 2010, 4:39:09 PM4/6/10
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Big surprise ...
Local fabric retailer has no clue, the canvas is over there :(

Is there a suitable or reasonable interfacing substitute for hair
canvas ?
eg. muslin, duck, poplin, canvas, denim, embroidery canvas,
pellon tailor-elite etc ?

thanks for any helpful ideas,

robb


BEI Design

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Apr 6, 2010, 7:52:52 PM4/6/10
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Robb, no there is not a substitute for real hair canvas
interfacing. There is no point in going to all the work on
your kilt and not using good notions, IMHO. You can order
Hymo haircanvas here:
http://www.voguefabricsstore.com/store/product.php?productid=6740

64" 60% Wool/ 40% Goat Hair

And:
http://www.habermanfabrics.com/scart/Lining_and_Interfacing.htm
72" 60% wool / 40% goat hair. Medium weight.

Don't let the price/yard turn you off, it's wide so you
won't need much. Do not let anyone sell you the 22" or 24"
hair canvas, way too much waste.

Also, sorry I have not responded to your other thread yet.
The glass shower surround is being installed RIGHT NOW! The
toilets will be back in place by tomorrow night. The
remodeling job is wrapping up, if you still need help, just
give me another whistle here.

Beverly


Kate XXXXXX

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Apr 6, 2010, 8:40:37 PM4/6/10
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robb wrote:
> Big surprise ...
> Local fabric retailer has no clue, the canvas is over there :(
>
> Is there a suitable or reasonable interfacing substitute for hair
> canvas ?

No.

> eg. muslin, duck, poplin, canvas, denim, embroidery canvas,
> pellon tailor-elite etc ?

None of these is anything like it. Hair canvas is made of wool or a
wool mix and has goat or horse hair woven in to give it springiness.


>
> thanks for any helpful ideas,

Tailoring suppliers on line may be your best bet. I got my last lot
from Dainty Supplies, Washington, Tyne & Wear! And they didn't know
they had it until I spotted it!

--
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Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.katedicey.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!

Jenn Ridley

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Apr 6, 2010, 8:35:45 PM4/6/10
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"robb" <so...@where.on.net> wrote:

>Big surprise ...
>Local fabric retailer has no clue, the canvas is over there :(

Did you look in the interfacing rack anyway? Just because the craft
drone doesn't know it's there.... (I've seen it at various stores,
usually in with the interfacing, although once it was over with the
aida/home dec notions.)

>Is there a suitable or reasonable interfacing substitute for hair
>canvas ?

not really.

jenn

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FarmI

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Apr 6, 2010, 10:16:42 PM4/6/10
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"robb" <so...@where.on.net> wrote in message
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> Big surprise ...
> Local fabric retailer has no clue, the canvas is over there :(
>
> Is there a suitable or reasonable interfacing substitute for hair
> canvas ?
> eg. muslin, duck, poplin, canvas, denim, embroidery canvas,
> pellon tailor-elite etc ?

No there is no substitue for hair canvas. All those interfacing you
nominate are just way too soft and lack the body of hair canvas.


Sparafucile

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Apr 7, 2010, 7:33:19 PM4/7/10
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Robb,

Try here:

http://store.atlantathread.com/hymocanvas.html

--
Ciao,

Serge

“I love cats because I take pleasure in my home;
and little by little, the cats become its visible
soul.”
Jean Cocteau, 1889-1963

4/7/2010 7:33:02 PM

robb

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Apr 15, 2010, 6:44:40 PM4/15/10
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"BEI Design" <nospam_b...@comcast.net.invalid> wrote in
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Thanks Beverly,

I ordered from the vogue fabric store shortly after you posted it
and it just arrived.

Which direction do the goat hairs lie ?

The instructions say to cut along the lengthwise grain .. but it
says to cut it with straightwise/lengthwise grain parallel to teh
length of the kilt ?

Does that mean apron to apron length or the length as in waist to
hem ?

Thanks for the info and help,

robb

BEI Design

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Apr 15, 2010, 7:32:39 PM4/15/10
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I recall struggling with that too. ;-) I decided they
meant for the straight grain to be VERTICAL when sewn into
the kilt.

> Does that mean apron to apron length or the length as in
> waist to hem ?
>
> Thanks for the info and help,

My recollection is that you cut the three pieces (or more if
necessary) pieces of hair canvas in strips across the
*width* of the canvas. The "straight grain" (parallel to
the selvedge edge) of the canvas will run vertically,
top-to-bottom, when applied to the upper portions of the
kilt.

You'll need one for the upper apron, another for the
underapron, and the third (or more, pieced), which you'll
shape with several darts for the back pleated area, from the
top edge to the bottom of the fell. Each strip will be
approximately 8" to 10", depending on your particular
waist-to-bottom-of-the-fell measurements.

It sounds like you are making great progress, I'm so sorry I
got involved with my remodeling and wasn't available to help
you out more.

Beverly


robb

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Apr 22, 2010, 11:29:50 PM4/22/10
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"BEI Design" <nospam_b...@comcast.net.invalid> wrote in
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> robb wrote:
> > "BEI Design" <nospam_b...@comcast.net.invalid> wrote
> > in message news:hpghgm$f36$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> > > robb wrote:
> > > > Big surprise ...
> > > > Local fabric retailer has no clue, the canvas is over
> > > > there :(
> > > >
> > > > Is there a suitable or reasonable interfacing
> > > > substitute for hair canvas ?

[trim useful info]

>
> It sounds like you are making great progress, I'm so sorry I
> got involved with my remodeling and wasn't available to help
> you out more.
>
> Beverly
>

Thanks Beverly,

For the helpful info.

And you have helped with everything that i have needed help
with... so, it does not seem like you were un-available.

Thanks again ,
robb

robb

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Apr 22, 2010, 11:34:44 PM4/22/10
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"Jenn Ridley" <jri...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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Thanks for you help,

I did look at the interfacing section first. I asked for help out
of desperation. I was already anticipating they would never have
heard of hair canvas.

Which was surprising i thiought they would at least have heard of
it. When i described the use they said oh you want pellon, Then
they did not believe i had a pattern/book that said do not use
pellon for that application.

delayed thanks
robb

robb

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Apr 22, 2010, 11:36:21 PM4/22/10
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"Kate XXXXXX" <ka...@diceyhome.free-online.co.uk> wrote in message
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> robb wrote:
> > Big surprise ...
> > Local fabric retailer has no clue, the canvas is over there
:(
> >
> > Is there a suitable or reasonable interfacing substitute for
hair
> > canvas ?
>
> No.
>

Thanks Kate,

That pretty much wraps it up in a pretty (no) nut shell :)

robb

robb

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Apr 22, 2010, 11:46:24 PM4/22/10
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"FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
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Thanks Fran,

I was hoping one you many experienced sewists might have some
trick to producing something like it.

An example, I was thinking of fusing two pieces of "pellon
fusible tailor elite" to both sides of a piece of duck cloth,
linen or even buckram. and then it would have the grab, weight
and body to work ??

but i just went with the real stuff as everyone suggests.

robb

robb

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Apr 22, 2010, 11:47:39 PM4/22/10
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"Sparafucile" <fa...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 16:39:09 -0400, robb wrote:
>
> > Big surprise ...
> > Local fabric retailer has no clue, the canvas is over there
:(
> >
> > Is there a suitable or reasonable interfacing substitute for
hair
> > canvas ?
> > eg. muslin, duck, poplin, canvas, denim, embroidery canvas,
> > pellon tailor-elite etc ?
> >
> > thanks for any helpful ideas,
> >
> > robb
>
> Robb,
>
> Try here:
>
> http://store.atlantathread.com/hymocanvas.html
>
> --
> Ciao,
>

Thanks for the helpful info Serge,

robb

BEI Design

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Apr 23, 2010, 2:54:43 AM4/23/10
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robb wrote:

> "BEI Design" wrote:
>
> [trim useful info]
>
> >
> > It sounds like you are making great progress, I'm so
> > sorry I got involved with my remodeling and wasn't
> > available to help you out more.
> >
> > Beverly
> >
>
> Thanks Beverly,
>
> For the helpful info.
>
> And you have helped with everything that i have needed
> help with... so, it does not seem like you were
> un-available.
>
> Thanks again ,
> robb

You're very welcome, Robb. Now, where are the PICS??? ;-)

Beverly


FarmI

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Apr 23, 2010, 3:17:15 AM4/23/10
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"robb" <so...@where.on.net> wrote in message

> I was hoping one you many experienced sewists might have some


> trick to producing something like it.

Well what a disappointing lot we all turned out to be :-)) I'd have been
delighted if anyone did manage to come up with an idea that would do the job
like real hair canvas, but alas, not one of us did.

> An example, I was thinking of fusing two pieces of "pellon
> fusible tailor elite" to both sides of a piece of duck cloth,
> linen or even buckram. and then it would have the grab, weight
> and body to work ??
>
> but i just went with the real stuff as everyone suggests.

OK Robb, now you've seen and experienced the real thing, do you see why we
all gave you the advice we did?

Fran


Jennifer Jones

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May 17, 2010, 1:53:17 AM5/17/10
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On Apr 23, 12:17 am, "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote:
> "robb" <s...@where.on.net> wrote in message

Hi all,
Sorry to butt into your completed discussion but I, too, have a
pattern calling for hair canvas. However, my project is just a handbag
and not apparel so I'm not sure why it calls for such a high-end
interfacing. Is there a reasonable sub for hair canvas in this
application? I would think that the idea is for the bag to have some
body to it so that it retains its shape??

Thank you
Jennifer

FarmI

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May 17, 2010, 2:01:13 AM5/17/10
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"Jennifer Jones" <jen78...@gmail.com> wrote in message

Hi all,
Sorry to butt into your completed discussion but I, too, have a
pattern calling for hair canvas. However, my project is just a handbag
and not apparel so I'm not sure why it calls for such a high-end
interfacing. Is there a reasonable sub for hair canvas in this
application? I would think that the idea is for the bag to have some
body to it so that it retains its shape??
___________________________________-
It sounds like a need for stiffness might be the reason why they have
included hair canvas but it might also be because of a need to use it in
shaping - without seeing the pattern it'd be hard to know. Can you post a
link to the pattern or describe it or even tell us what the instructions say
about how/where the hair canvas is used?


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May 17, 2010, 3:23:04 AM5/17/10
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Kay Lancaster

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May 17, 2010, 11:42:03 AM5/17/10
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On Sun, 16 May 2010 22:53:17 -0700 (PDT), Jennifer
Jones <jen78...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sorry to butt into your completed discussion but I, too, have a
> pattern calling for hair canvas. However, my project is just a handbag
> and not apparel so I'm not sure why it calls for such a high-end
> interfacing. Is there a reasonable sub for hair canvas in this
> application? I would think that the idea is for the bag to have some
body to it so that it retains its shape??

Try a couple of layers of fusible weft. The idea is probably to make the
bag fabric more resilient.


Olwyn.Mary

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May 18, 2010, 12:09:49 AM5/18/10
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I have has good results using fusible batting inside a handbag, to give
it a little body.

Olwyn Mary in New Orleans.

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