Best fabric for jigsaw roll-up mat: felt or ???
Top Spin
for.
I want to make one of those mats for rolling up jigsaw puzzles. I
bought one for Christmas but it has a couple of design flaws. It's
made from greef felt, but the felt it too thin so it won't lay flat.
The felt is also too fuzzy (not smooth) making it almost impossible to
move the puzzle pieces around.
I'd like to find a fabric that is fairly thick so that it lays
perfectly flat and has a smoothness that will keep the pieces from
sliding off but will enable them to me slid around fairly easily.
My first thought was felt because it has a nice look and feel. I also
thought about vinyl or something like that, but I don't want a plastic
or tacky/sticky feel. When I roll it up, I don't want the pieces
sticking to the second layer.
Are there other materials besides felt that I should go look at?
Thanks
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Norma Woods
know. I tried the felt, but the pieces that are already together come apart
in lumps and you have to put them back together again. Not so bad, if you
are doing a small puzzle, but I was working on one that was 3 feet by 2
feet!--
Star love,
Norma ;-)
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Trish Brown
>
> I wouldn't mind knowing this, also. if you find something, please let me
> know. I tried the felt, but the pieces that are already together come apart
> in lumps and you have to put them back together again. Not so bad, if you
> are doing a small puzzle, but I was working on one that was 3 feet by 2
> feet!--
> Star love,
> Norma ;-)
Maybe it depends on the kind of felt you use? I was given a commercially
produced puzzle roller jobbie and it's as neat as a pin, with a sort of
baize fabric (thinner and more flexible than felt). I tried making my
own with a post-it roll pack and craft grade felt and while this one
worked, it wasn't as satisfactory as the original model. I'm not sure
whether the thicker felt or the larger diameter of the roll pack was to
blame...
My own model works best for the larger jigsaws I like, while the
commercially produced one works best for the smaller (1000 pcs or less)
ones which I do most frequently to fill in a weekend. I s'pose you'd
have to try a few combinations to see what suits you best?
BTW, I found the craft felt was not as good at 'holding on' to the
jigsaw pieces. Perhaps a velvet fabric might work well? Maybe even a
fleecy or rugby knit? This is all food for thought and I must experiment
a bit! If anyone has anything to add to this thread, it'd be most
interesting! :-)
--
Trish {|:-}
Newcastle, NSW, Australia
Karen M.
> BTW, I found the craft felt was not as good at 'holding on' to the
> jigsaw pieces. Perhaps a velvet fabric might work well? Maybe even a
> fleecy or rugby knit? This is all food for thought and I must experiment
> a bit! If anyone has anything to add to this thread, it'd be most
> interesting! :-)
Automotive headliner fabric, which is a rubbery innard sandwiched
with some fleecy velour stuff on both sides.
Not cheap, but probably less than a commercial puzzle roll-up mat.
I haven't tried this myself, but it seems like it would be just the
ticket. It's at TSWLTH in the home dec section.
HTH
--Karen M.
who uses pieces of it to pad the bends of my low brass instruments
Trish Brown
<snip>
> --Karen M.
> who uses pieces of it to pad the bends of my low brass instruments
Hmmmm... how fascinating! What sorts of low brass instruments do you
play, Karen???? I *have* to know! ;-> (BTW, you might get a better sound
out of them if you stopped calling them nasty names! LOL!)
My DS has just begun to play the clarinet and a pad has fallen off the
instrument: could your idea translate to a clarinet pad????
(Love the idea of the auto fabric for jigsaw holders!)
Robin Ragan
I found that the shelf liner that is nonslip nonskid works good. Just need
a big
cardboard tube to roll it up on. Have to pick the pieces up, can't slide
them easily
but it works great for keeping the "keepers" together.
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penny s
> I found that the shelf liner that is nonslip nonskid works good.
> Just need a big
> cardboard tube to roll it up on. Have to pick the pieces up, can't
> slide them easily
> but it works great for keeping the "keepers" together.
>
>
> "Top Spin" <Topp...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:frgp0vke6m006e0lf...@4ax.com...
I have some foam backed table pad that I got at TSWLTH and I"m thinking that
might work?
penny s
Karen M.
> > who uses pieces of it to pad the bends of my low brass instruments
>
> Hmmmm... how fascinating! What sorts of low brass instruments do you
> play, Karen???? I *have* to know! ;-> (BTW, you might get a better sound
> out of them if you stopped calling them nasty names! LOL!)
>
> My DS has just begun to play the clarinet and a pad has fallen off the
> instrument: could your idea translate to a clarinet pad????
>
> (Love the idea of the auto fabric for jigsaw holders!)
I have two baritone horns (euphoniums) and a sousaphone. They all
needed handgrips to keep skin oil off the finish, and the big 'un
needed a bumper so it won't slide to the floor when I lean it against
the wall while playing a gig.
Hooray for velcro and creative talent. (Humility too.)
In my flute days, the pads were made of an interesting combo of
cotton and a cover, almost like a bandage (first aid). Sold at music
stores and not terribly pricey. I doubt that the faux neoprene in a
headliner would adequately obstruct tthe hole the way it's supposed
to, and cutting that tiny perfect circle would be a pain.
Guess I need to upload some instrument pics...I've made several
baritone gig bags that can be worn as backpacks.
--Karen M.
off to call a dance at a First Night
zski
Guess I need to upload some instrument pics...I've made several
> baritone gig bags that can be worn as backpacks.
I too played baritone for may years (until I got braces) Wish my mum
had thought of a gig bag!
I started at age 9 with a full-size horn - I had to sit on a phone book
and put the horn on the chair seat between my knees to reach the
mouthpiece. As I lived a mile from school and mom wasn't going to pick
me up every day, she hit on the idea of strapping the case to a
skateboard with bungee - cords, and for many years I "walked" it to and
from school. When I got too tall to drag it by the handle, I tied a
strap to it and dragged it that way.
Kept up with the vocals after giving up brass, and started pennywhistle
and bodhran a few years ago. Now I play pro 20-25 weekends per years at
Renaissance Faires, and have made several whistle bags. They hang at my
waist, and carry a C and two D whistles and two bodhran tippers in
upright pockets for easy access both on the streets and on stage. The
first had each pocket a different color velvet, and the second was
several different tapestries and brocades leftover from other projects.
The latest is a patch leather affair made from $10 worth of scraps, with
additional pockets inside and on the back for business cards, cleaning
swab, favors, throat drops and my faire pass. It had a long braided
leather strap so that I can either tie it at my waist, or hang it from a
shoulder like a purse at the occasional non-costume gig.
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Wench #525
"Though she be but little, she is fierce"
"It's the little ones you have to watch out for..."
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Trish Brown
How would people go about constructing a decent guitar case?
Mine has virtually had it (it *is* about thirty years old!) and needs
replacing. Once, I had fantasies of carving and decorating a leather
one, but I'd never afford that amount of calf! (Maybe kangaroo
leather... but even that's expensive these days...)
Anyway, Blind Freddy can see *how* to put a soft case together (ie, cut
a pattern, insert zipper into outer gusset and construct). But what
about reinforcement for the instrument's protection and how about
affixing carry-handles to deal with the weight of the instrument?
My guitar is quite a whopper (it's an Eko 12-string with a removable
neck - has a huge and heavy wooden block supporting the neck and the
instrument itself is quite large), so I feel it needs to be well-covered
with something hefty. I could make a case from denim or canvas or
what-have-you... but I'd really like to hear suggestions for a good,
stout case that would protect my Percy (that's his name: the guitar, I
mean...) from knocks and bumps. For example, would it be worth using
vinyl as a king of interfacing? I don't like the idea of vinyl because
it could induce unwanted humidity, but what else could there be to give
the outer fabric more 'oomph'?
Any ideas please? :-)
Top Spin
wrote:
> Automotive headliner fabric, which is a rubbery innard sandwiched
>with some fleecy velour stuff on both sides.
> Not cheap, but probably less than a commercial puzzle roll-up mat.
> I haven't tried this myself, but it seems like it would be just the
>ticket. It's at TSWLTH in the home dec section.
>HTH
This sounds like a good idea. What is "TSWLTH"?
Also, what's "HTH"?
Top Spin
<accou...@kleegeindustries.com> wrote:
>I found that the shelf liner that is nonslip nonskid works good. Just need
>a big
>cardboard tube to roll it up on. Have to pick the pieces up, can't slide
>them easily
>but it works great for keeping the "keepers" together.
The only shelf liner I am aware of is that self-sticking stuff that
has peel off sheet on the back. Yo must be talking about something
else. What do I ask for and where do I go to find it?
Top Spin
<penny...@cet.invalid.com> wrote:
>I have some foam backed table pad that I got at TSWLTH and I"m thinking that
>might work?
Penny,
I think the ideal material will be slightly sticky but not too sticky.
It's good to be able to slide the pieces, especially partially
constructed subassemblies,around whikle working the puzzle, but not
have then slide out the ends when roled up.
It should also be soft enough to roll, but not so soft that the pieces
"sink in" much when pressed into place.
What about some synthetic fabrtics like vinyl or naugahyde or ???
Trish Brown
<snip>
> Now since I'm lazy, I think I'd probably try to talk DH the woodworker into
> making me a fitted case, using some of the cans of insulation foam to make
> it a truly custom case... If I let him (over)build one the way he'd
> probably want to, it would probably also need wheels and a hook for a crane
> for transport. <g>
Thanks for the excellent ideas, Kay! If/when your DH makes you a custom
case, please post pics of it somewhere! :-)
Jean D Mahavier
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<lots of snip-snip>
> Now since I'm lazy, I think I'd probably try to talk DH the woodworker
into
> making me a fitted case, using some of the cans of insulation foam to make
> it a truly custom case... If I let him (over)build one the way he'd
> probably want to, it would probably also need wheels and a hook for a
crane
> for transport. <g>
aware that stuff expands beyond your wildest dreams? (like nightmares!)
Top Spin
<kawb...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>Maybe it depends on the kind of felt you use? I was given a commercially
>produced puzzle roller jobbie and it's as neat as a pin, with a sort of
>baize fabric (thinner and more flexible than felt).
What is baize"? Is it a kind of flannel?
>I tried making my
>own with a post-it roll pack and craft grade felt
Is craft-grade felt thicker or thinner than other types?
Trish Brown
>
> What is baize"? Is it a kind of flannel?
It's sort of like felt only thinner and stretchier. The stuff they use
for the tops of pool tables. I don't know where you'd buy it, as I've
never seen it for sale anywhere... but I reckon it'd be the perfect
thing for jigsaw rollups!
>
> >I tried making my
> >own with a post-it roll pack and craft grade felt
>
> Is craft-grade felt thicker or thinner than other types?
Well, here in Oz, craft-grade felt is thinner and not nearly as 'nice'
as other felts (eg. the sort you'd use for making a hat). Real felt is
pretty hard to come by and I've rarely seen it for sale by the metre.
Craft-grade felt comes in little squares (about 10") and you'd have a
fair b*gger of a job trying to piece them together for a jigsaw rollup!
The one I made was only 2 x 2 squares, so that wasn't too bad...
Now you've got me wondering. The last school at which I taught had a
bolt of green felt for craft projects, only it was lovely stout stuff
and just the thing for this project. I'll have to find out where they
got it!
Kay Lancaster
Most of that does (and the high expansion stuff can undoubtedly crush
an instrument)... but there are also low expansion foams available-- meant
for window and door installations. I just can't remember a brand name at
the moment.
You can also carve plain open cell upholstery foam with a bread knife,
keyhole saw or a coarse-bladed jig saw. Then do a little fine trimming with
some big scissors. Stack up the carved layers
to fit the guitar, then add a dot of hotmelt glue between the foam layers
to keep them from shifting. wrap the whole thing in polyester "silky"
fabric, and drop it into the case... instant lined camera or instrument
case. <g>
Kay Lancaster k...@fern.com
Karen M.
...
>
> Mine has virtually had it (it *is* about thirty years old!) and needs
>
> Anyway, Blind Freddy can see *how* to put a soft case together (ie, cut
> a pattern, insert zipper into outer gusset and construct). But what
> about reinforcement for the instrument's protection and how about
> affixing carry-handles to deal with the weight of the instrument?
>
> My guitar is quite a whopper (it's an Eko 12-string with a removable
> neck - has a huge and heavy wooden block supporting the neck and the
> instrument itself is quite large), so I feel it needs to be well-covered
> with something hefty. I could make a case from denim or canvas or
> what-have-you... but I'd really like to hear suggestions for a good,
> stout case that would protect my Percy (that's his name: the guitar, I
> mean...) from knocks and bumps. For example, would it be worth using
> vinyl as a king of interfacing? I don't like the idea of vinyl because
> it could induce unwanted humidity, but what else could there be to give
> the outer fabric more 'oomph'?
My euph bags are made of ripstop or regular nylon on the outside,
lined with a soft flannel, and with an inner layer of "egg crate"
foam. One double-sized mattress pad will make a couple of gig bags.
I recycled a couple of old shoulder pads (still covered) to make
velcroed pockets for my mouthpiece and valve oil. MP pocket is located
low on the bag; oil's is near the top. (I can still play if the oil
happens to bounce out and get lost.)
The handles are nylon strap material stitched in a large circle,
then attached to the bottom and sides of the bag. I copied the layout
of a duffle bag (or a canvas carry-all sold at hardware stores here in
the US) for that super-de-dooper reinforcement handle thing.
Closure on one bag is straps and buckles (it opens from the top)
and the other is Velcro. I need to modify that, as it never seems to
stay shut. My fourth bag will be perfect!
When I was playing a reproduction saxhorn in a Civil War brass
band, I made up a case for it, too. Authentic 19th C velcro on that
one too.
Oh yes: there's a stripe of reflexite trim around the top of each
(modern) bag. As an avid cyclist, I like to take the horn on the bike.
(Every try to find a parking space near a gig?) This helps make me a
little bit safer on the streets and in the parking lots.
Maybe I'll shoot pics tomorrow. Too bad my computer/Yahoo won't
let me post them on Happiest When Sewing.
--Karen M.
Top Spin
fabtric stores, upholstery stores, hardware stores, craft stores, and
maybe a canvas/tent maker.
I think the ideal characteristics for this project are as follows:
Stiffness: stiff enough so that it will lay flat without wrinkling or
any raised areas, but supple enough so that it will roll easily.
Smoothness: Smooth enough so that puzzle pieces, including partially
completed sub-assemblies, can be slid around on the surface, but rough
enough so that the pieces will not fall out when rolled up. Maybe this
can be achieved by having the top side fairly smooth (not slippery)
and the under side rougher so that it will secure the pieces when
rolled up.
Hardness: Hard (firm) enough so that the pieces will not sink in when
pressed into place, thereby causing adjacent pieces to also depress
and either be bent or become disconnected.
Glare: Zero glare or reflectiveness.
Color: Something neutral with no pattern. Pool table green seems to
work well.
Any suggestions for something that meets these criteria? I'm thinking
it will need to be a composite material with a smooth, hard surface on
one side and a rougher (or fuzzy) surface on the other.
Hilary
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>
> I found that the shelf liner that is nonslip nonskid works good. Just
need
I wonder if Robin is referring to the open mesh, rubberised stuff that is
used to stop things sliding of trays, rugs moving or in my case stops the
hamsters cages from being knocked of the bureau?? We also use it in the
camper to stop our mugs sliding of the table on a slight incline. I get it
from our £1 shop. Theres about half of a metre square in it.
I think it would work admirably to store, but its not a very flat surface
for doing the jig-saw on????
:o)
aquaseas33
Sounds like neoprene wetsuit material to me. Probably not cheap. Comes in
various thickness and usually has nylon material bonded to one or both
sides. If you found it with nylon only on one side, the rubbery side would
help prevent the pieces from slipping when rolled.
Jo
JJ
fabrics and it means The store we love to hate. Can't answerHTH because I
just don't know either.
JJnews:tk841vsaf0houvkm2...@4ax.com...
penny s
>> Any suggestions for something that meets these criteria? I'm thinking
>> it will need to be a composite material with a smooth, hard surface
>> on one side and a rougher (or fuzzy) surface on the other.
>>
>
> Sounds like neoprene wetsuit material to me. Probably not cheap.
> Comes in various thickness and usually has nylon material bonded to
> one or both sides. If you found it with nylon only on one side, the
> rubbery side would help prevent the pieces from slipping when rolled.
> Jo
Malden thermal stretch is 60 " wide and is about 330/yard. might work...??
low nap fleece on one side, lycra on the other.
penny s
Norma Woods
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Star love,
Norma ;-)
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penny s
> I don't think anyone answered you quqestion about TSWLTH. I's JoAnn's
> fabrics and it means The store we love to hate. Can't answerHTH
> because I just don't know either.
HTH
Hope this helps.
search "internet acronyms" for more.
penny s
aquaseas33
"penny s" <penny...@cet.invalid.com> wrote in message
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> > Sounds like neoprene wetsuit material to me. Probably not cheap.
> > Comes in various thickness and usually has nylon material bonded to
> > one or both sides. If you found it with nylon only on one side, the
> > rubbery side would help prevent the pieces from slipping when rolled.
> > Jo
>
> Malden thermal stretch is 60 " wide and is about 330/yard. might
work...??
> low nap fleece on one side, lycra on the other.
>
Wow, is that in pesos? If not, I won't be sewing any thermal fleece
wetsuits. Actually, I hadn't even thought of it until now...
2 or 3 mil thickness neoprene runs about 15 USD for a linear foot of 44 to
48" wide material.
Jo
JJ
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Pauline O'Connell
acronym, cause whenever I am shopping there (and it's on my list for today)
as we all stand in the cutting line, we all grumble about how bad it is -
then we go over to the pay line & grumble some more! I was going to write a
letter to their headquarters, but I thought it was only the stores in my
area (No Calif) - it sounds as if this is a nationwide complaint?? Since
I'm new here, has anyone attempted to contact them and bring complaints to
their attention? Am I wasting my time?
Pauline
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Mack
now my interest is peaked about what exactly does this thing look like. I've
never seen one.
Does anyone have a link to a website so that I might see one?
Thanks
Mack
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Charlie
>
> My DS has just begun to play the clarinet and a pad has fallen off the
> instrument: could your idea translate to a clarinet pad????
>
NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!
If you have any respect for the instrument at ALL you HAVE to take your
clarinet to a repair shop to have new pads put on. It costs nearly nothing.
I have about 8 years experience of clarinets (Bb and Bass) as well as all
four saxophones and if I could give you one piece of advice it would be;
NEVER tamper with such a well crafted instrument. With any woodwind, if you
attempt to repair it yourself you WILL damage it and impair the sound
quality. Also, every six to nine months get it taken in for a check up at
the local repair shop. It costs about £15 to have done, plus any repairs
needed, and they clean it properly with solvent too.
Sorry, just my two penneth. I hate to see any damaged instrument.
Charlie.
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"Mack" <talb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> After reading all the discussion about the correct fabric/material to use
> now my interest is peaked about what exactly does this thing look like.
I've
> never seen one.
> Does anyone have a link to a website so that I might see one?
> Thanks
> Mack
http://www.mysticdreamsshoppe.com/rolupjigpuzm.html
http://www.cabinfever.org/cf_rollopuzz.html
I'll even give ya a great search engine
http://www.dogpile.com
You can find most anything with it.
Top Spin
>I don't think anyone answered you quqestion about TSWLTH. I's JoAnn's
>fabrics and it means The store we love to hate. Can't answerHTH because I
>just don't know either.
>JJ
Aha! Coincidentally, I just returned from a local Jo-Ann's Fabric
store. Now I can understand the TSWLTH acronym -- except for the "L"
part. The line at the cutting table was about 25 people long waiting
for 1 cutter while several other employees walked around the store
picking their noses. I got to know the woman in front of me and the
one behind quite well. Too bad I'm married. Maybe I could start a
dating service where all we do is send the guys to Jo-Ann's to buy a
yard of something and tell them to get in line behind someone they
like and start making jokes about who will be president when they get
out of there.
MaryInUtah
http://www.bitsandpieces.com/product.asp?id=0315021216670131594104&sku=1
2-W0709&dept_id=1
(You'll probably have to copy the whole thing into the browser address
box; beware of line breaks!)
We have a puzzle roll-up mat with an outline on it, supposedly to help
with the puzzle. We end up ignoring the lines: too many puzzles are
around to try to guess on which dimension to use.
Mary in Utah
In article <wdlR9.7691$Tn....@news.bellsouth.net>, "Mack"
<talb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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Top Spin
Never heard of that one. Is it fairly thin? I tried one piece of felt
that was too thin and would not lay flat.
Top Spin
<aquas...@REMOVEattbi.com> wrote:
>2 or 3 mil thickness neoprene runs about 15 USD for a linear foot of 44 to
>48" wide material.
>Jo
That rules that out. I'll probably need almost 2 yards and the final
product probably needs to be under $20 including other materials,
overhead, and profit. ;-)
Top Spin
upholstery shops, a canvas tent and awning maker, a hardware store,
and Jo-Ann Fabrics (aka TSWLTH -- now I know why).
The best candidate so far is a product called "Allure". I think the
manufacturer is Vernon, but I couldn't find them online. It's a
vinyl-like material with a polyester fleece backing. It's stiff enough
that it lays fairly flat. The pieces slide easily. (Maybe a little too
easily when rolled up.) The finish is dull enough so that there is no
glare. It was $7/yard in widths of about 48".
I have some other fabrics to try when I get time.
Top Spin
wrote:
>After reading all the discussion about the correct fabric/material to use
>now my interest is peaked about what exactly does this thing look like. I've
>never seen one.
>Does anyone have a link to a website so that I might see one?
>Thanks
>Mack
There are several on ebay. Search for "jigsaw puzzle rollup" or do a
google search on the same string.
Basically, they are a piece of material large enough to lay out all of
the pieces of a jigsaw puzzle, a tube, and some ties or a bag. You lay
the fabric on the table, dump the jigsaw pieces out, and start
working. When you need the table for dinner, you get the tube and
simply roll up the material with all the pieces just as they are. Then
tie it with the ties or put it in the bag and put it in the closet.
After dinner, you get it back out and roll it out on the table and go
back to work.
I ordered 2 of them, but they are poorly made and have at least one
major flaw. I was thinking of making one right and going into
business! ;-)
Top Spin
<poc...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>I'm new to the group here, but I got a good chuckle out of the TSWLTH
>acronym, cause whenever I am shopping there (and it's on my list for today)
>as we all stand in the cutting line, we all grumble about how bad it is -
>then we go over to the pay line & grumble some more! I was going to write a
>letter to their headquarters, but I thought it was only the stores in my
>area (No Calif) - it sounds as if this is a nationwide complaint?? Since
>I'm new here, has anyone attempted to contact them and bring complaints to
>their attention? Am I wasting my time?
>
>Pauline
Pauline,
I was just in the one in Cupertino yesterday. Are you in that part of
No CA by any chance?
Anyway, since I had about 30 minutes in line, I was chatting with the
women around me. One of them told me that she believes it's because
sewing is no longer cost effective so sewing stores have a hard time
making a go of it. When I suggested that they all get together and
start a competitor, they said that severlal have tried and they go out
of business.
I actually think Mervyn's is about as bad.
Pauline O'Connell
especially women have started sewing, cooking, knitting, etc. again, so the
fabric & craft stores have seen an increase in business. I don't know if
that's actually true, but even when I got a new sewing machine, they said
the same thing there. There are ALWAYS LONG lines at TSWLTH! Interesting.
taria
tell you what is best in their store) I stay away from TSWLTH
on big sale days unless I can really do well on something I have to
have.
I always grab a couple of magazines off the rack if there is a line.
Most
don't have enough info to warrant buying but in a line you can read
quite
a bit! I doubt complaining would help much but it never hurts to try.
Taria
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JJ
> I'm new here, has anyone attempted to contact them and bring complaints to
> their attention? Am I wasting my time?
I don't know abouut anyone else but I have sent them letters about both good
and bad service. The woman I commplained about is still in my local store>
The woman I paid a compliment to is gone. So ......... I'd say draw your own
conclusions.
JJ
Top Spin
Danville, huh. That's a nice area. We're in Palo Alto.
The woman behind me in line said that only crazy people still sew and
stand in those lines. Her excuse was that she was very particular!
Top Spin
>I don't know abouut anyone else but I have sent them letters about both good
>and bad service. The woman I commplained about is still in my local store>
>The woman I paid a compliment to is gone. So ......... I'd say draw your own
>conclusions.
>JJ
The competent employee probablyt left because she had options, whereas
the incompetent has nowhere else to go. TSWLTH probably pays very or
minimum and so cannot attract motivated workers.
penny s
> On Fri, 03 Jan 2003 21:03:06 GMT, "Pauline O'Connell"
> <poc...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>> No, I'm in the East Bay - Danville. I keep hearing that since 9/11
>> people, especially women have started sewing, cooking, knitting,
>> etc. again, so the fabric & craft stores have seen an increase in
>> business. I don't know if that's actually true, but even when I got
>> a new sewing machine, they said the same thing there. There are
>> ALWAYS LONG lines at TSWLTH! Interesting.
>
> Danville, huh. That's a nice area. We're in Palo Alto.
>
Aw, kwitcherbitchen...
I don't why you all don't head to SF for Britex!!! Or, Stone Mountain and
Daughters in Berkeley...at least you have wonderful stores that you could
get to in less than 50 miles.
I mail order everything.
penny s
JJ
"Top Spin" <Topp...@hotmail.com> wrote in message The competent employee
probablyt left because she had options,
I will say this ,if she wants to work in a fabric store she doesn't have
many options. Around here the options open to her are JoAnns, JoAnns and
JoAnns. There are 3 within a 75 mile area and 1 privately owned store that
is run by the won=man who owns it.
JJ
Pauline O'Connell
Oakland. It's just that TSWLTH is 5 minutes from my house & I think it
could be so much better! Half the time, I'm afraid I'm going to break my
neck trying to climb around the boxes & trash etc. scattered all over the
floor!
Okay, now I'm feeling really bad & really spoiled. . . . . . Can anyone
comment about Hancock Fabrics? I've heard that they have classes in their
stores. I've never been to one - but I plan to check it out. I'm guessing
they have a similar fabric selection to TSWLTH, so that's not too
compelling.
Pauline
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Emily
crafty stuff and cheap junk and the other tends to sell more upholstery,
curtain fabric and home decor. I know some Hancock's have classes and so
do some Jo-Ann's.
Emily
Top Spin
<penny...@cet.invalid.com> wrote:
>Aw, kwitcherbitchen...
Then I wouldn't have any fun...
>I don't why you all don't head to SF for Britex!!!
I found them on the internet. Do they have an unusual selection? Do
they have short lines? ;-)
>Or, Stone Mountain and Daughters in Berkeley...at least you have wonderful stores that you could
>get to in less than 50 miles.
I don't know that one. No internet presence I could find.
>I mail order everything.
Then how do you know about these bay area stres?
Melinda Meahan
>No, I'm in the East Bay - Danville.
>
Hey, another Contra Costan! There's someone else who lives in Danville
or San Ramon, I forget. I'm in Concord.
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I just wish that He didn't trust me so much. - Mother Teresa
Melinda Meahan
>I know, I know, I shouldn't complain! Don't forget Poppy Fabrics in
>Oakland.
>
Has anybody been to Fabric Depot in El Sobrante?
Melinda Meahan
>I don't why you all don't head to SF for Britex!!! Or, Stone Mountain and Daughters in Berkeley...at least you have wonderful stores that you could get to in less than 50 miles.
>
>
>
Sure, *IF* you can find parking.
I'm with you on mail order, personally.
Pauline O'Connell
member? Do you go to the meetings?
Pauline
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Top Spin
...and it's Jo-Ann's that is more into crafts, right?
We used to have a NY Fabric store in San Jose and I think it had
mostly sewing supplies -- lots of fabrics.
penny s
former resident.
penny s
> I know, I know, I shouldn't complain! Don't forget Poppy Fabrics in
> Oakland. It's just that TSWLTH is 5 minutes from my house & I think
> it could be so much better! Half the time, I'm afraid I'm going to
> break my neck trying to climb around the boxes & trash etc. scattered
> all over the floor!
is Satin Moon in SF still around?
penny s
> Pauline O'Connell wrote:
>
>> No, I'm in the East Bay - Danville.
>>
>
> Hey, another Contra Costan! There's someone else who lives in
> Danville or San Ramon, I forget. I'm in Concord.
How I know BA stores?
Monte Vista '77. Lived in Danville 72-77, San Ramon 77-79. (pre boom) Left
for what I thought was for good and moved back to Concord for 86-90. Moved
to WA state in 90.
Let us not forget New York Fabircs and what ever that fine place was in WC
near Kaiser. Anyone here a member of DVQ?
penny s
penny s
> penny s wrote:
>
>> I don't why you all don't head to SF for Britex!!! Or, Stone
>> Mountain and Daughters in Berkeley...at least you have wonderful
>> stores that you could get to in less than 50 miles.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Sure, *IF* you can find parking.
BART/ Bus....
penny
Melinda Meahan
>Cool! I just joined the ASG & my membership card came today. Are you a
>member? Do you go to the meetings?
>
>
No, but I know a few people who are. I'm a single parent, working full
time and doing job retraining, and I have another year or so before I
will have the time for that. It's definitely on my list, though.
Melinda Meahan
>Left for what I thought was for good and moved back to Concord for 86-90. Moved to WA state in 90.
>
They now have the freeways redone and it looks like southern Calif, but
you no longer get in a traffic snarl going from 680 to 24. I live about
a mile and a quarter from the freeway off of Monument.
>Let us not forget New York Fabircs
>
They got bought out by Joanne's.
>and what ever that fine place was in WC
>near Kaiser.
>
Thimblecreek is still in business, although I never manage to find the
time to check the place out.
>Anyone here a member of DVQ?
>
>
I am too intimidated by quilters to think about joining them in person,
although I have been to some treadle machine gatherings where there are
a lot of quilters.
Melinda Meahan
>>Sure, *IF* you can find parking.
>>
>>
>
>BART/ Bus....
>
>
Okay, then there's the problem of finding parking at the BART station if
I don't want to spend 30-50 minutes going 2 miles to the BART station by
foot or bus. <GD&RFC>
penny s
> penny s wrote:
>
>> Left for what I thought was for good and moved back to Concord for
>> 86-90. Moved to WA state in 90.
>>
>
> They now have the freeways redone and it looks like southern Calif,
> but you no longer get in a traffic snarl going from 680 to 24. I
> live about a mile and a quarter from the freeway off of Monument.
do you suppose we used to be neighbors? I used to live off Conventry Rd
about 1 mile from the downtown Concord BART Station.
I tell you what tho. When we moved back from the Rockies in '86 I was
pregnant with our first and DH was unemployed and changing technical
fields.We gave ourselves 5 years to leave because city living is just not
for us. Our public schools have lots of $$ and housing is about 1/6 the
cost of what it is in CA. Plus I have 5 ski areas with lift tickets under
$50 in a 70 miles radius. Not for everyone but it works for me. You can
still buy a 3 bdrm hourse for under 100K in a not-bad neighborhood here.
I have my apparel design certificate from DVC. I understand that program is
shut down now?
Penny S
Pauline O'Connell
a great selection of nicer quality fabrics most of the time. That whole
shopping center has been redone now. There is a sewing machine store in the
old Kaufman's location. Cost Plus is the largest tenant there.
What is DVQ?
My husband & I just drove up to WA to check out the Olympic Peninsula with
the thought of relocating there. Now we are exploring Southern Oregon.
It's way too crowded in the Bay Area.
"penny s" <penny...@cet.invalid.com> wrote in message
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Pauline O'Connell
items, when you become a member of ASG. I think the dues are $30 or $35 a
year.
I think that's a nice bonus.
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Pauline O'Connell
people have been there FOREVER and know everything. I can't recall ever
having an issue with waiting in line there, but I haven't been in a couple
of years.
The website for StoneMountain is www.stonemountainfabric.com
They have a great fabric selection & they have classes too.
"Top Spin" <Topp...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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penny s
> Are you thinking of Kaufmans? That was my favorite for close by.
> They had a great selection of nicer quality fabrics most of the time.
> That whole shopping center has been redone now. There is a sewing
> machine store in the old Kaufman's location. Cost Plus is the
> largest tenant there.
>
> What is DVQ?
>
> My husband & I just drove up to WA to check out the Olympic Peninsula
> with the thought of relocating there. Now we are exploring Southern
> Oregon. It's way too crowded in the Bay Area.
Kaufmans, yes that's it.
DVQ is Diablo Valley Quilters. My MIL was a member.
Seattle has traffic as bad as anyplace in the Bay Area, and housing is just
as high.
If anyone moving out of CA ever wants tips on how NOT to act like an Idiot
Californian
Transplant ( is how to get yourself hated by the "natives") let me know. I'm
joking, but I am NOT joking.
penny s
penny s
> FWIW, you get a 10% discount card for TSWLTH on everything, including
> sale items, when you become a member of ASG. I think the dues are
> $30 or $35 a year.
> I think that's a nice bonus.
Hmm. I get one for free (professional discount card) by showing them a copy
of my business license.
Penny S
penny s
> Britex has a fabulous selection. It's a family owned store. The sales
> people have been there FOREVER and know everything. I can't recall
> ever having an issue with waiting in line there, but I haven't been
> in a couple of years.
> The website for StoneMountain is www.stonemountainfabric.com
>
> They have a great fabric selection & they have classes too.
are they online yet?
The notions floor is to die for...
penny s
Melinda Meahan
>FWIW, you get a 10% discount card for TSWLTH on everything, including sale items, when you become a member of ASG.
>
I already get it for being faculty of a satellite school, but I agree it
would be a nice plus.
LeeSyr
LeeSyr
Emily
member of ASG.
Emily
Top Spin
<poc...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>Britex has a fabulous selection. It's a family owned store. The sales
>people have been there FOREVER and know everything. I can't recall ever
>having an issue with waiting in line there, but I haven't been in a couple
>of years.
>The website for StoneMountain is www.stonemountainfabric.com
>
>They have a great fabric selection & they have classes too.
Thanks
Pauline O'Connell
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Pauline O'Connell
they have a system for you to order fabric through the mail from them. Not
sure it would work for me, unless I knew exactly what I needed & they had
it.
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ticketyboo
Group / Access Service Group / Adult Spiritual Growth / and hundred of
others... figured it had to do with sewing (duh!) though American Sewing
Guild didn't come up in a Google Search. Having a slow day here!
Vivienne
Pauline O'Connell
actual card for TSWLTH with my ASG membership card.
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Pauline O'Connell
Since I'm a newcomer here, I assumed that I was the only person who had just
discovered it.
Pauline
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Emily
Emily
LeeSyr
You and I must have different "googles"
mine came out the first one!
Thanks for the interesting ones though!
Lee
ticketyboo
in the UK.
Vivienne
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cloverflowers
> I'm new to the group here, but I got a good chuckle out of the TSWLTH
> acronym, cause whenever I am shopping there (and it's on my list for today)
> as we all stand in the cutting line, we all grumble about how bad it is -
> then we go over to the pay line & grumble some more! I was going to write a
> letter to their headquarters, but I thought it was only the stores in my
> area (No Calif) - it sounds as if this is a nationwide complaint?? Since
> I'm new here, has anyone attempted to contact them and bring complaints to
> their attention? Am I wasting my time?
>
> Pauline
I have a terrible confession to make, there is a great fabric store in
my town but I don't spend much money there. Not just another great
quilt store, an honest-to-God fabric store. Reading these posts makes
me feel terribly guilty. JoAnns gets most of my money. I have found
that about 1/3 of what they sell at JoAnns is available at Walmart so
I alway check Walmart first. No waiting at Walmart. Plus Walmart has
big $1.00 a yard and $2.00 a yard tables. Don't laugh! I have found
some great stuff there! Despite years of trying I don't have the
confidence in my sewing skills to tackle really expensive projects.
I haven't read in this group much (so i am sure these have been
identified by others) but there are several things about TSWLTH that
really bug me:
no wool fabrics
no linen fabrics
50 different skater/swimsuit spandex fabrics to choose from
literally mountains of cheap, butt-ugly fleece fabrics
the fads - right now there are aisles and aisles of flannels. What in
the hell is everybody doing with the flannel?
I go back so often that I feel a sense of kinship with the women who
work there. I know they are not the problem. Most of them don't sew
and can't offer any advice. Not their fault, really.
I resolve to support the good fabric store in my town in 2003. I'll
try to spend at least $100.00 there this year. I would hate for them
to go away because I do love to visit and dream.
Melinda Meahan
>I alway check Walmart first. No waiting at Walmart. Plus Walmart has
>big $1.00 a yard and $2.00 a yard tables. Don't laugh! I have found
>some great stuff there!
>
I found Worsterlon, which is a nice-quality wool-looking polyester blend
suiting, at Wal-Mart for $3 a yard. I took it and ran!
sewingb...@webtv.net
Re: TSWLTH
(cloverflowers)
<snip>
.. literally mountains of cheap, butt-ugly fleece fabrics the fads -
right now there are aisles and aisles of flannels. What in the hell is
everybody doing with the flannel?
Yes, the fleece is faddish, but I have:
1) a son who loses everything which isn't super-glued, tied, or
otherwise duct-taped to his body: (visualize a somewhat normal 32 year
old with mittens-on-a-string):
2) a Son-IL who is on board a ship, where everything that isn't locked
up gets stolen, and with very little locker space:
3) Two little GDDs--at an age where the latest fad is everything, not a
trend I encourage, but try to hold back a flood, willya?
There's some fun stuff in with all that ugly stuff, and everything has
it's uses. MM fleece, I save for me, since I'm the only one I know who
wears favorite clothes to a rag and a bone,
The flannel? I'm making Remembrance quilts from my Dad's old flannel
shirts for my sisters to use and abuse, and backing them with a couple
of yards of flannel. Cuddly and warm, and not my usual 100-year quilting
project, I can only hope.
Cea
Sally Holmes
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> I haven't read in this group much (so i am sure these have been
> identified by others) but there are several things about TSWLTH that
> really bug me:
[... snip ...]
> the fads - right now there are aisles and aisles of flannels. What
in
> the hell is everybody doing with the flannel?
Raggedy quilts, I suspect. The ones where you sandwich a piece of
batting between two pieces of flannel then sew the flannel together
with 1" seam allowances. Snip into the seam allowances to help them
fray, wash and tumble dry and you have a snuggly fluffy quilt. Quick.
Warm. Easy.
--
Sally Holmes
Wakefield, West Yorkshire, England
Ophelia
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MMMmmm that sounds nice:)
O
Jean D Mahavier
> cloverflowers wrote:
>
> >I alway check Walmart first. No waiting at Walmart. Plus Walmart has
> >big $1.00 a yard and $2.00 a yard tables. Don't laugh! I have found
> >some great stuff there!
nothing woth even that. And a pretty small yard goods dept. Last summer
visiting DS and family I went to the one near them and could have spent a
whole day in the *huge* yard goods section! Was afraid to even go looking
for the $1 table.
Top Spin
stopped in. Based on this one store, I think I have a strong candidate
for a new acronym (TSWHTH). This store had absolutely no redeeming
qualities. Not only were there long lines, but the clerks were hostile
and arrogant. At the Jo-Ann's store, I had to wait in line, but the
cutting lady was very nice.
cloverflowers
Thank you! I have seen one of those and resolved on the spot to make
one but of course I haven't made one yet. It was wonderfully soft and
looked foolproof.
Marilyn
selection. They sometimes have some nice cottons as well. Or head over
to The Quilting Bee in Los Altos for nice cottons - geared to quilting
but they do have nice fabrics. At least I hope both those stores are
both there. There was a good yarn shop across the street from Thai
silks too.
I never made it to Britex or Stone Mountain and Daughter. I wish I
had. I hate to admit it but I spent too much time in TSWLTH both in
Palo Alto and Cupertino. Or as my husband and I dubbed it JoAnn Lots-of
Cheap-Plastic-Crap-and-a-Few Fabrics. It doesn't trip off the tongue
but it summed up our experience pretty well. Actually it was New York
Fabrics at the time but they were one and the same, I think.
Anyway, give Thai Silks a try if you get a chance. Not affiliated in
any way, just a satisfied customer.
Marilyn
On Fri, 3 Jan 2003 Top Spin wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Jan 2003 18:34:34 -0800, "penny s"
> <penny...@cet.invalid.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Aw, kwitcherbitchen...
>
>
> Then I wouldn't have any fun...
>
>
>>I don't why you all don't head to SF for Britex!!!
>
>
> I found them on the internet. Do they have an unusual selection? Do
> they have short lines? [;-)]
>
>>Or, Stone Mountain and Daughters in Berkeley...at least you have wonderful stores that you could
>>get to in less than 50 miles.
>
>
> I don't know that one. No internet presence I could find.
>
>
>>I mail order everything.
>
>
> Then how do you know about these bay area stres?
>
Sally Holmes
"Marilyn" <bu...@nospam.mninter.net> wrote in message
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> Or you could head over to Thai Silks in Los Altos and revel in the
silk
> selection. They sometimes have some nice cottons as well. Or head
over
> to The Quilting Bee in Los Altos for nice cottons - geared to
quilting
> but they do have nice fabrics. At least I hope both those stores
are
> both there.
The Quilting Bee moved to Mountain View several years ago, and last
time I went it was being run by Eddy, Diana Leone's son, and the feel
of the place had changed.
> There was a good yarn shop across the street from Thai
> silks too.
Uncommon Threads. Nice yarns, somewhat snooty owner.
> > Then how do you know about these bay area stres?
I lived in Los Altos. <Sigh> It was a very happy time.
The Quilting Bee was the first quilt shop I ever went into. I thought
I'd died and gone to heaven! So many fabrics, and arranged differently
to the way UK stores do it.
Cat
Sally Holmes <sa...@dolmus.co.uk> wrote:
>The Quilting Bee moved to Mountain View several years ago, and last
>time I went it was being run by Eddy, Diana Leone's son, and the feel
>of the place had changed.
One experience with the 'service' and 'quality' of that place has led me to
refuse to set foot in it again. I'd rather drive to Walnut Creek for the
Husqvarna dealer there, than darken their doorstep again.
I brought my machine in for repair, couldn't get a straight story out of
them about what they were repairing, never heard from them unless I called
and badgered them, got my machine back weeks late, and got a lot of attitude
about having an older machine.
The last time I checked, an average repair shop can keep in touch with their
customers, let them know what the repair is, and how much it will cost. Not
telling the customer that they have an old machine, and wouldn't they prefer
to get a new one is always a plus.
Feh. You can probably tell that thinking about it annoys me.
As it happens (for those with Husqvarna/Viking machines, the vacuum store
over by Mathilda/El Camino carries things like bobbins and feet - and seems
to have a decent repair person. They certainly have a much better attitude.
cheers!
--
==========================================================================
"A cat spends her life conflicted between a deep, passionate and profound
desire for fish and an equally deep, passionate and profound desire to
avoid getting wet. This is the defining metaphor of my life right now."
Marilyn
> In article <LfuT9.5791$q67....@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>,
> Sally Holmes <sa...@dolmus.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>The Quilting Bee moved to Mountain View several years ago, and last
>>time I went it was being run by Eddy, Diana Leone's son, and the feel
>>of the place had changed.
>
>
> One experience with the 'service' and 'quality' of that place has led me to
> refuse to set foot in it again. I'd rather drive to Walnut Creek for the
> Husqvarna dealer there, than darken their doorstep again.
Wow! I'm sorry to hear that. I bought my Viking from them. They had a
salesperson named Marie who was very helpful and friendly. She found
out what features were most important to me and sold me the right level
of machine. She didn't try to talk me into a more expensive machine.
She gave me my classes in using the machine and was very helpful any
time I asked for advice. I bought a walking foot from them before I
moved. Due to various circumstances, ( my baby who took up most of my
time) I didn't get it out of the box until I moved to Minnesota. When I
did, I discovered I had the wrong foot. Right box, wrong foot in the
box. I called Marie and talked to her about it. She said just to send
the foot to her. I told her I had lost track of the receipt in the move
but she said not to worry. Within a week, I had the correct foot back!
No questions, no hassle.
>
> I brought my machine in for repair, couldn't get a straight story out of
> them about what they were repairing, never heard from them unless I called
> and badgered them, got my machine back weeks late, and got a lot of attitude
> about having an older machine.
>
> The last time I checked, an average repair shop can keep in touch with their
> customers, let them know what the repair is, and how much it will cost. Not
> telling the customer that they have an old machine, and wouldn't they prefer
> to get a new one is always a plus.
>
> Feh. You can probably tell that thinking about it annoys me.
>
> As it happens (for those with Husqvarna/Viking machines, the vacuum store
> over by Mathilda/El Camino carries things like bobbins and feet - and seems
> to have a decent repair person. They certainly have a much better attitude.
>
> cheers!
>
I wonder if things have changed a bit there since the management has
changed. I did take my machine in once for repair which was not going to
be covered under warranty. Someone (I won't say who for fear of getting
them into trouble) at the Quilting Bee suggested I take it instead to
the Sewing and Vacuum Center on White Road in San Jose. I was happy with
their service and it was cheaper than the price quoted at QB and returned
to me sooner than the time frame QB promised. Liscensed Viking dealer and
repair, all of that. Of course, I have no idea if the Sewing and Vaccum
center is still there! This was six years ago, maybe closer to seven.
Time flies and things change quickly.
I do remember that there was one woman at QB who had quite an
attitude and mainly sold machines. After one encounter with the other
woman, I would ask for Marie and return later if she wasn't there. Most
of the other people who worked there I liked too. Just this one woman.
Just goes to prove that you can't go back.
Marilyn
Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to reply
>One experience with the 'service' and 'quality' of that place has led me to refuse to set foot in it again. I'd rather drive to Walnut Creek for the Husqvarna dealer there, than darken their doorstep again.
>
What dealer?
Melinda, who lives in Concord and knows of a dealer in Concord but not
one in Walnut Creek, and likes to keep track of where all these places are
Maureen Wozniak
Thank goodness DBF has to go up to Evanston frequently. Then I can get a change to visit Vogue Fabrics.
M311
(cloverflowers) writes:
>What in
>the hell is everybody doing with the flannel?
Night gowns. It gets cold up here in the midwest.
Kelly
Kelly Albrecht
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The Brianna Jennings Foundation---http://www.savingourbabies.org/
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use them for jacket linings. I have one jacket that has a nice lining of
firetrucks and fire dogs. The flannel feels so nice and it is a warm jacket.
