Janome 9000 or Pfaff 7570? Suggestions.

[tiffini elektra x]

Hello all I have been reading through all the posts and have learned so
much- well I am getting ready to upgrade from my kenmore. I learned how to
sew about six months ago! I love it - it has become a huge part of my life.
I picked up a nice bernina serger and now it is time to upgrade the machine
so I can embroider (I am very interested in designing my own stuff) and have
a bit more power. Basically I have around $2500.00 I would like to keep it
at that. I can get both the Janome 9000 and the Pfaff 7570 for less than
that but the new Janome and the new Pfaff would be too much.
I thought the Vikings seemed a bit overpriced and know nothing about the
brothers so I will check into that?
Thank you and nice to meet you all! Tiffini

[we...@my-deja.com]

I'm in the "looking around " phase too. (Acutally I'm just waiting for
hubby to recover from the sticker shock). It will be hard to get a
concesus from everyone on which machine to buy. The machine must feel
right for you. For me, it's between the Janome 9000 and Brother PC
8500. You should really test the Brother - it has a larger embroidery
field, can arch letters, etc. Check out the Brother website and see
what it can do. If I am going to pay that much for a machine I want to
get the most for my dollar.

Make a list of what you think you would like your machine to do, and
what you must have. Compare the features on all machines. Remember to
bring your own fabric to test run the machines. Dealers have been
known to use fabrics they know wont give them problems. If you are
going to sew fleece, bring it: chiffon, bring that. quilt... and bring
your own thread.

Just so you know... I am not affiliated with any store, dealer, etc. I
hope this helps

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Before you buy.

[tiffini elektra x]

Wow great suggestions! Thank you. I also found this web site that does a
comparision chart if interested. I do plan on going down and checking them
all out to find which one feels right for me. If anyone has any personal
experience with the Brother 8500, Janome 9000 or the Pfaff 7570 please feel
free to post.
Comparision chart http://allbrands.com/homemach/com-comp.htm
Thanks again Tiffini
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[lynda janzen]

I have a Janome 8000 and it is the best machine I have ever owned. I
have has Singer, Pfaff and Viking. I love my 8000. I am considering
trading up to the 9000. Lynda

[Gayle]

I have had Janome and while it is a good machine, I would never part with my
Pfaff 7570. The dual feed alone is worth the price for me. I sew leather,
denim and lotsof heavy fabric and my Janome just could not handle it. while
the embroidery field is somewhat smaller (95-225mm big hoop) than the new
machines, there is not much that I would want to do that is bigger. Bigger
is not always better and the area of stabilization etc. Add on programmes
for the Pfaff abound at reasonable or free prices and with the introduction
of flutter whumper& Stitch Bunny for PC users the sky is the limit on
digitising. Pfaff software is kinda based on the cad programme so many of
my friends husbands have gotten into the digitising act with great results.
They especially like the option to place or remove one stitch at a time.
Also with the Pfaff you have access through the software to every stitch on
every machine since the l475. I use this allot to programme 9mm stitches for
frame embroidery. I use the built in memories to alter the built in
stitches and add to them. If you do get the 7570 I highly recommend the big
Purple manuals that are made for the machine. I do not think that viking
will continue to produce them in future but they are wonderful for learning
your machine.

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[myersma]

Thanks for the good information Gayle. Can the single stitch editing
be done with other software (Brother or Singer) ?

Mike

On Wed, 22 Nov 2000 23:55:10 -0500, "Gayle" <farr...@rivernet.net>
wrote:

[Joanne]

What is "flutter whumper& Stitch Bunny for PC users"?

Joanne

[tiffini elektra x]

Thank you for the great information. I also was wondering what flutter
whumper and Stitch Bunny is? Thank you Tiffini
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[Edna Boland]

Hi I thought I'd get in on this too. I had a Janome 8000 and changed to a
Pfaff 7570 and I love it, no complaints. Far superior to the Janome.
Edna

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[Gayle]

Flutter Whumper and Stitch Bunny were originally made for the MacPfaffies.
Now however, "Mel the wonder programmer " has adapted them for those of us
who have to use a PC. FW is a true auto trace programme and can do
wonderful fonts, and make appliqués with the greatest of ease. Stitch Bunny
was a conversion programme but is so much more not. If you want to see just
a little of what these programmes are capable of and see the wonder font
disk that Carol has done please go to
www.wabbitwanch.com
this site is well worth the trip.

[Gayle]

I never had much luck with any of the Janome software. Everything looked
cartoonish. I did like the Singer PSW, but chose the Pfaff because of
price. The learning curve is a bit steeper, but for a savings of over
$1000.00 I can bear it.....and have money left over for thread, and extra
programmes.

[The Liebers]

IMHO the Pfaff is the better machine. The built in stitches give you a
lot of versatility and the software allows you to do a lot. If you are
not up to doing a lot of designing and digitizing the memory cards that
are availble allow you a lot of creative leeway. The speed and accuracy
is what sold me.

Over the years since I have gotten mine, I did notice that a lot of
people were put off by the allbrands "review" of the 7570. Many people
pointed out that they are not a licensed dealer and might not want to
steer someone in the direction of a Pfaff. Whatever the reason, I think
that their review is not quite true. The dual feed system has been
invaluable to me.

[myersma]

I'll be ready to buy a Brother 8500 or the Pfaff in the next few
days, (Christmas gift for my wife). I'll just go for the best deal
(machine and software). I would like to have everything needed to
embroider something on Christmas day. What else should I buy ?

On Fri, 24 Nov 2000 18:57:35 -0500, "Gayle" <farr...@rivernet.net>
wrote:

[lynda janzen]

May we all suggest that you let your wife pick her machine. I still
remember when my dad bought mother a "suprise machine" one year for
christmas. She never said a work but it was not the machine she had
wanted. She sewed on it for years and I now have it as a backup but it
was not the one she would have gotten. Lynda

myersma wrote:
>
> I'll be ready to buy a Brother 8500 or the Pfaff in the next few
> days, (Christmas gift for my wife). I'll just go for the best deal
> (machine and software). I would like to have everything needed to
> embroider something on Christmas day. What else should I buy ?
>
> On Fri, 24 Nov 2000 18:57:35 -0500, "Gayle" <farr...@rivernet.net>
> wrote:
>

[myersma]

She wants me to buy one for her. She thinks it will be regular sewing
machine with a drop arm so she "can sew cuffs", that's all she wants.
She has a Brother 621 with no drop arm. I don't know how old it is,
but it was made in Brazil and only has two plastic parts, the top and
bottom of the carrying case. I think it will only sew 5 different
stitches, but you shouId see the wonderful stuff she creates with it.
I understand what you are saying, I'm a woodworker and I like to pick
my tools.

Mike

On Sat, 25 Nov 2000 20:44:56 GMT, lynda janzen <ly...@flash.net>
wrote:

[Lisa Reeves]

> I'll be ready to buy a Brother 8500 or the Pfaff in the next few
> days, (Christmas gift for my wife). I'll just go for the best deal
> (machine and software). I would like to have everything needed to
> embroider something on Christmas day. What else should I buy ?

If you decide on the Brother, get PE Design version *4* and the read/write
box, if you want software with the machine. Don't let them try to palm an
older version off on you......

--
lisa in lansing

[nom...@spam.com]

Gayle, please say which Janome you had? I have a Janome 8000 and it
never faulters from canvas to leather to quilts to silks and velvets.
Christina

Gayle wrote:
>
> I have had Janome and while it is a good machine, I would never part with my
> Pfaff 7570. The dual feed alone is worth the price for me. I sew leather,
> denim and lotsof heavy fabric and my Janome just could not handle it. while
> the embroidery field is somewhat smaller (95-225mm big hoop) than the new
> machines, there is not much that I would want to do that is bigger. Bigger
> is not always better and the area of stabilization etc. Add on programmes
> for the Pfaff abound at reasonable or free prices and with the introduction
> of flutter whumper& Stitch Bunny for PC users the sky is the limit on
> digitising. Pfaff software is kinda based on the cad programme so many of
> my friends husbands have gotten into the digitising act with great results.
> They especially like the option to place or remove one stitch at a time.
> Also with the Pfaff you have access through the software to every stitch on
> every machine since the l475. I use this allot to programme 9mm stitches for
> frame embroidery. I use the built in memories to alter the built in
> stitches and add to them. If you do get the 7570 I highly recommend the big
> Purple manuals that are made for the machine. I do not think that viking
> will continue to produce them in future but they are wonderful for learning
> your machine.
>

[Gayle]

I had an 5000 and upgraded to the 8000. Just did not do the job for me. I
found the walking foot attachment to be cumbersome and awkward. I do not
mean to imply the Janome was not a good machine. I just do to much heavy
work consistently for it. I even embroider on leather with the Pfaff. Last
night I fixed the son's army tent and the dual feed was invaluable for the
thickness and weight of the 4-5 layers of canvas.

[lynda janzen]

I just finished making slipcover cushions out of a heavy upholstery
fabric with piping inserted into the seams. Which means 4 thicknesses
and my 8000 never skipped a beat and never even slowed down. I know
that the Pfaff I had would not have handled it. Lynda

nom...@spam.com wrote:
>
> Gayle, please say which Janome you had? I have a Janome 8000 and it
> never faulters from canvas to leather to quilts to silks and velvets.
> Christina
>
> Gayle wrote:
> >
> > I have had Janome and while it is a good machine, I would never part with my
> > Pfaff 7570. The dual feed alone is worth the price for me. I sew leather,
> > denim and lotsof heavy fabric and my Janome just could not handle it. while
> > the embroidery field is somewhat smaller (95-225mm big hoop) than the new
> > machines, there is not much that I would want to do that is bigger. Bigger
> > is not always better and the area of stabilization etc. Add on programmes
> > for the Pfaff abound at reasonable or free prices and with the introduction
> > of flutter whumper& Stitch Bunny for PC users the sky is the limit on
> > digitising. Pfaff software is kinda based on the cad programme so many of
> > my friends husbands have gotten into the digitising act with great results.
> > They especially like the option to place or remove one stitch at a time.
> > Also with the Pfaff you have access through the software to every stitch on
> > every machine since the l475. I use this allot to programme 9mm stitches for
> > frame embroidery. I use the built in memories to alter the built in
> > stitches and add to them. If you do get the 7570 I highly recommend the big
> > Purple manuals that are made for the machine. I do not think that viking
> > will continue to produce them in future but they are wonderful for learning
> > your machine.
> >