Singer 337 problems
AMM
get it working (with the help of my local sewing shop.)
However, it has a problem with the stitches: they look
like the upper thread tension is way, way too low, but
it isn't. If I manage through nefarious means to get
the upper thread tight enough for the stitch loops
to be where they should be, the thread is so tight
it breaks.
The lower thread tension feels about right. It's
definitely not high enough to account for the problem.
I've spent a lot of time looking at how the thread
gets pulled around the bobbin, and it looks like
it's getting a lot of resistance before it finishes
slipping around the bobbin, but it's not consistent.
One time, it even caught on the bobbin carrier.
Is there anything I can try to fix this? Or should
I just give up on the machine? I've already sunk
$75 into it.
BEI Design
I am not familiar with your machine, so take this for what
it's worth. Tension problems are more often then not
something wrong with the needle thread path. Two things to
try:
New needle and make sure it's inserted in the correct
direction.
Clean the upper thread path, including flossing between he
tension disks then re-thread, following the instruction in
the manual.
You've spent $75.00 with the local shop, did they offer any
kind of warrantee? You might take it back and ask them to
diagnose the problem.
--
Beverly
http://ickes.us/default.aspx
IMS
Loose stitches on top mean a lower thread problem, loose stitches on
top indicate upper thread problem.
You may also have 'burrs' on the bobbin case, hook or bobbin; or even
under the needle plate. Run your fingers over the metal bits to see
if you can feel anything.
-Irene
On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:20:29 -0700 (PDT), AMM <a_m...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Kate XXXXXX
In addition to the other suggestions, take the bobbin case and the
shuttle out and give them a good clean and inspection.
If my memory serves adequately, the 337 is a type 66 with the top
loading bobbin. The bobbin case is held in with a couple of screws and
isn't difficult to remove, but you do need to be careful. I think the
shuttle (the thing with the hook that catches the thread) just rests in
the hole and can be lifted out once you have the bobbin case removed.
Take it out, clean it carefully, and inspect it and the shuttle
carefully for damage. Oil it where the shuttle and the shuttle race
meet. The shuttle race is the static bit that the hooked bit turns in:
drop a couple of drops of oil on the join.
--
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Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
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Wayne Hines
Check the slot in the needle plate where the needle passes through.
There's probably a burr/gouge there from needle strikes. If it's not too
big, it can be smoothed with a small round file and sandpaper. If it's
too big, the plate will have to be replaced.
gwh
Kay Lancaster
> get it working (with the help of my local sewing shop.)
>
> However, it has a problem with the stitches: they look
> like the upper thread tension is way, way too low, but
> it isn't. If I manage through nefarious means to get
> the upper thread tight enough for the stitch loops
> to be where they should be, the thread is so tight
> it breaks.
The upper tension disks open when the presser foot is raised. If you don't
raise the presser foot when you're threading the upper part of the machine,
the thread doesn't get between the tension disks, and you get loose upper
thread making loops on the bottom of the fabric.
Likewise, leaving the presser foot up while trying to sew will also produce
loops on the back of the fabric. Those two are, ime, the major causes of
this issue.
Dirty or corroded tension disks can be forced apart by the crud, resulting in
no upper tension; I've also seen this with a weak tension spring.
And finally, thread that's too heavy for the size of the needle can get jammed
in the long groove of the needle and look like there's no tension up top.
Try standard dressmaker thread and a nice, new size 80/12 needle, right way
around.
Another issue that can be mistaken for no upper tension is what I call
"caterpillars" -- thread loops that form because you've not hung on to the
top and bottom threads for the first few stitches. Usually caterpillars
only last for about an inch or so of seam, then straighten out and the rest
of the seam is ok.
I get the thread loops question so often from newbies that I did a series
of photos of stitching from a misthreaded machine -- samples are on muslin,
in pairs, blue thread in the top of the machine, red thread in the bobbin,
http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/22521551
Kay
Polly Esther
night we discovered that our Brother embroidery machine would just sing with
a Schmetz metallica needle. It surely makes a difference to have a needle
that is just right. Polly
"Kay Lancaster" <
Emily Bengston
What a great set of pictures, showing how the tension can cause problems
with any machine. The few simple rules all of you have written are
certainly worth remembering.
Emily
Emily Bengston
machine; use Singer needles for all Singer machines, I use Singers even in
the 1898 model; I use Pfaff needles in the Pfaff machines, but find Schmetz
are perfect for all other brands.
Emily
Kate XXXXXX
perfectly in all my machines that take the standard domestic needle,
from my 1923 hand crank Singer 66K, the 28K, the 15-88 treadle, the
Featherweight, the 99K FrankenSinger, the 367, and the Featherweight
100, and on through the other machines up to my 1150MDA Bernina serger.
The only one I don't use Schmetz in is the 1909 Jones Family CS, which
uses a different needle system. I have some Organ needles (to be
avoided at all costs otherwise: very brittle and break easily in faster
machines) and some Gros-Bekert needles for that one as it takes a needle
system now usually only found in commercial bartack machines.
I haven't bought Singer needles since I was a child. I was once given a
pack of new s
Singer needles, and every single one was faulty. If I'd had a receipt
for them, I'd have taken them back. In all the years of using them I've
only ever had one SAcmetz needle that was faulty out of the pack, and
that had the flat side ground off at the wrong angle! The eye was round
the side somewhere when the needle was flat to the back in my Lily!
Looked very odd.
Rhein make the Bernina needles. I think they may also make needles for
Elna and Pfaff. You don't often see them for sale under their own name,
except in the boxes of 100 bought by schools and the like. I never
bother with the machine branded needles as they are exactly the same as
the non-branded ones in everything except price. I tend to buy my
standard 70's, 80's and 90''s Univeral needles in the 100 boxes, and the
10 packs in the same size of Scmetze jersey/knit needles.
Polly Esther
years that some SMs just had to have a Singer needle and you say that is not
so. I accept that you have done more stitching than Mr. Singer himself.
Even the 1923 hank crank you say? Wonderful. I do have one and profoundly
thought we'd have to go on an archeological dig or something to find her the
right needle. What happy news - although I'm more than a little embarrassed
to have been suggesting Singer needles for elderly Singers. Polly
"Kate >>
Kate XXXXXX
> Well, Kate. Well, well, well. I am just SO surprised. I've thought
> for years that some SMs just had to have a Singer needle and you say
> that is not so. I accept that you have done more stitching than Mr.
> Singer himself. Even the 1923 hank crank you say? Wonderful. I do have
> one and profoundly thought we'd have to go on an archeological dig or
> something to find her the right needle. What happy news - although I'm
> more than a little embarrassed to have been suggesting Singer needles
> for elderly Singers. Polly
I think part of this thinking is a hang-over from the Olden Days (TM),
when Singer DID make the best sewing machine needles, certainly for
Singer machines. Unfortunately, along with so much that was good,
Singer started outsourcing their needle manufacturing several decades
ago - like about 1970. The needles are now just branded, not made by
Singer at all, and they are made down to a price in the Far East.
If you have some of the old 60's or earlier paper packs of needles,
hoard them carefully. So long as they are unused and bright and shiny,
they are still some of the best needles made for older Singer machines.
That said, I've been using Schmetz needles in my 1923 Singer 66K hand
Crank (my beloved Spinning Jenny!) since the day I bought her in 1976,
with never a bother at all.
Today I have been sewing quilting cotton (a Victorian bodice in a
'granny print' lined with a plain dark green) and upholstery vinyl (some
spats for a gent), using the Bernina. I have been using a size 90
Universal needle on the cotton (slight overkill, but I'm using a
slightly thicker cotton thread just because it matches), and a 100
leather needle with Empress Mills 75 Polycore on the vinyl. Both are
Schmetz needles. Both machines are running perfectly. As was the
99KFrankensinger (1948-58, depending on which bit you look at!) when I
used it the other day.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3423/3889379520_3b155904f5_o.jpg
The 28K hand crank clamped to the table, using a Schmetz 110 leather
needle and upholstery thread in both bobbin and needle to sew the hood
of my friend's Gentry kit car. It took two of us to steer the fabric,
but the machine coped all right!
http://pics.livejournal.com/katexxxxxx/pic/002eqat6
My chum Su on her white Singer, after I fettled the tension, sewing her
beautiful silk with a size 70 Universal Schmetz needle. The Brother
1034D I'm using, and the Husqvarna Optima 190 opposite me are also
fitted with Schmetz needles.
Schmetz are dead easy to get here in the UK. Klasse aren't hard to
find, but Gros-Bekert and Rhein are a little harder. Worth getting if
you see them/ The Rhein ones tend to be a little cheaper than the other
makes.
Polly Esther
always delightful. I've just got to know though, Kate. What on earth is a
rack of footwear doing there? Do the rest of us need one? Polly
"Kate XXXXXX" <>
Kate XXXXXX
> I love to look around in other stitchers' creation stations - and yours
> is always delightful. I've just got to know though, Kate. What on earth
> is a rack of footwear doing there? Do the rest of us need one? Polly
Ah... This is not the Sewing Room, this is the Auxiliary Sewing Area,
specially set up for a meeting of the Mad Sewists Of The Apocalypse. We
are a group of manic frockers indulging in the exchange of skills,
ideas, fabric, and experience in making frockery of The Past. In this
instance it's a complete set of 18th C garments for a three day event in
February next year. We started with Stays and petticoats. In this
picture we are working on our Sack Back Gowns, to go over the Pocket
Hoops we also made earlier (or I made, having skimmed the pattern off
Su'e set from an opera house sale!).
Usually this is my Conservatory, and houses the kitchen cupboard
overspill (things like spare coffee makers and kettles, the jam
cauldron, the soup cauldron, and the pressure cooker... and the fruits
of my labours in the kitchen, like jam and Christmas puddings), the
washer and dryer, and the hobby space, along with my demountable cutting
table! Usually the only sewing that happens here is cutting and
pressing. And not all of that. The shoes are part of the Outdoors Etc
stuff that lives here because we have no boot room and no separate
utility room. The space is variously used for cooking, making plastic
models, dying cloth, entertaining, a sick animal hospita, an place for
drying tents, a laudry, a greenhouse, a garden shed, a woodwoking shop,
and, of course, a sewing area!
Anyone who gets boot polish or mud on any of the sewing gets nailed to
the wall with my laser look, lashed to small pieces by my tongue, and
anything left is then gently crucified and nailed to the door as an
awful warning! :D
Alan Dicey
> I love to look around in other stitchers' creation stations - and yours
> is always delightful. I've just got to know though, Kate. What on
> earth is a rack of footwear doing there?
keeping out of the way, if they know what's good for them :)
> Do the rest of us need one?
I dunno, how often do you need to kick the sh*t out of something?
<smiles sweetly>
BEI Design
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Often enough, maybe I better invest in one! <VBG>
Beverly
BEI Design
> > http://pics.livejournal.com/katexxxxxx/pic/002eqat6
Funny, that temporary closet rod/rack is identical to the
ones I got when I moved everything out of my closet for the
big bathroom remodel a couple of months ago. When that was
done, I moved them into the closet for the next year or so,
I'm not going to build the permanent set-up until after I
have hardwood flooring installed next summer. It is really
sturdy, much better than I feared it would be.
--
Beverly
http://ickes.us/default.aspx
Kate XXXXXX
my sister gave me.
Olwyn.Mary
that Brits can have lush tropical vegetation, simply by means of growing
plants in pots and bringing them into the conservatory all during the
frost season.
Olwyn Mary in New Orleans.
Kate XXXXXX
Well, I also have a chili plant, a sweet red pepper plant and two
orchids on the windowsills, and a basil plant in the kitchen. I'd love
to have a house large enough to have a separate utility room, a pantry,
a walk-in kitchen store, and a sewing studio large enough for the
pressing station and 4 sewing machines permanently set up, along with
the larger cutting area, plus a conservatory large enough for a lemon
tree and a grape vine. There are a few houses like that in this area.
Unfortunately they also come with a £7-10 million price tag! And acres
of housework. I'd do it in a heartbeat if I had the dosh and could
afford a housekeeper and a pair of skivvies to do the heavy stuff.
Where's me £87m Euro Miliions lttery ticket got to...
As it is, we just go in for multi-use rooms and a much more manageable
hoovering acreage! ;)
Olwyn.Mary
> Well, I also have a chili plant, a sweet red pepper plant and two
> orchids on the windowsills, and a basil plant in the kitchen. I'd love
> to have a house large enough to have a separate utility room, a pantry,
> a walk-in kitchen store, and a sewing studio large enough for the
> pressing station and 4 sewing machines permanently set up, along with
> the larger cutting area, plus a conservatory large enough for a lemon
> tree and a grape vine. There are a few houses like that in this area.
> Unfortunately they also come with a £7-10 million price tag! And acres
> of housework. I'd do it in a heartbeat if I had the dosh and could
> afford a housekeeper and a pair of skivvies to do the heavy stuff.
> Where's me £87m Euro Miliions lttery ticket got to...
>
> As it is, we just go in for multi-use rooms and a much more manageable
> hoovering acreage! ;)
Ah well, the offspring will soon be finished with grammar school, then
you can decide if you might like to move somewhere both larger and
cheaper, or perhaps closer to Alan's work. I know if we had had to move
to the Big Easy while we still had kids in school we could not have been
in this very central area - we would have had to be out in the 'burbs
where the good schools are. As it is, there are just the two of us, we
live very near the French Quarter (1.5 miles to Bourbon Street), equally
close to the convention center, with the parade route going along the
top of our street, which is also where the streetcar runs. Plus, we
have a grocery store two blocks away in one direction and a drugstore
two blocks in another, and literally dozens of good restaurants in easy
strolling distance. Of course, there is also an extremely upscale
fabric store four blocks away, but I don't go there often, the fabrics
are really luscious and priced accordingly, including things like
Liberty prints, English and Italian tweeds, French lace--------------
BTW, I find it is much easier to vacuum when you have a little more
space and less clutter to have to move out of the way or manoeuvre around.
Olwyn Mary in New Orleans
Kate XXXXXX
There's no way I'd ever live in a city! It's hard even living on the
edge of a village! Give me Stornoway...
If we move, it'll be to a similar size of house somewhere in the
midlands, a bit closer to Himself's father. We'd still be looking at
village locations. If the GMNT ends up somewhere like Welbeck for his A
levels, we could go in a year. Otherwise we'll be here for at least
another three years, until he leaves school.
>
> BTW, I find it is much easier to vacuum when you have a little more
> space and less clutter to have to move out of the way or manoeuvre around.
The stuff doesn't bother me when folk put it away after use. I just
loathe housework! I only do it because I hate dirt more! :D
AMM
> I found a singer 337 sewing machine, and have managed to
> get it working (with the help of my local sewing shop.)
>
> However, it has a problem with the stitches: they look
> like the upper thread tension is way, way too low, but
Update:
1. As per Kate Quintuple-X's suggestion, I took the
bobbin carrier out, no burrs or other things.
I also fiddled with the springy thing that keeps the
bobbin carrier from falling out, no effect.
2. The needle plate has no rough spots or rust or anything.
3. I did notice that when I pull the needle thread,
rather than offering a smooth, steady resistance,
it tends to hold and then let go, as if the tensioner
plates were sticky. I took the thread tensioner
apart and cleaned the plates (stainless steel?)
with every solvent known to man, with no effect.
If I hold the thread against the case of the sewing
machine, thus increasing the resistance, it vastly
improves the stitches, in a way that fiddling with
the tensioner doesn't. If I pull on the thread by
hand, I don't notice much difference in the tension,
though.
4. I do plan to take the machine back to the shop.
Unfortunately, I have a rather busy life, and it's
about a 1hour round trip, which I haven't found
time for yet. (Sewing is snuck into the odd 15
or 30 minutes of down time; the 30-45 minute
train ride to/from work is great for hand-sewing,
seam ripping, and pinning up gathers.)
Olwyn.Mary
> If we move, it'll be to a similar size of house somewhere in the
> midlands, a bit closer to Himself's father. We'd still be looking at
> village locations. If the GMNT ends up somewhere like Welbeck for his A
> levels, we could go in a year. Otherwise we'll be here for at least
> another three years, until he leaves school.
I love being right in the city - strange, I grew up in an English
village - but when I think about it, I realize this neighborhood is
really just a village itself. Most things I want or need are within a
couple of miles and many of them are in walking distance. However, I am
absolutely delighted that most of my friends want to live either out in
the 'burbs or right out in the country - leaves room for me here, and if
everyone wanted to live here it would be unaffordable for the likes of
me. I happily entertain my friends when they want a taste of the city,
and completely ignore their comments about city noise. I also chortle
when they talk about crime in the city, and then the tv shows they have
just as many robberies and murders out there as we do in my 'hood.
Kate XXXXXX
I could cope MOST of the time with living in the middle of somewhere
like Durham or Lincoln. Not London or any other big city. Suburbia
would drive me bonkers in days. The Kent countryside is mostly OK, but
I would prefer somewhere like the Yorkshire Dales, Weardale, the
Borders, or the Highlands and Islands. It isn't going to happen, so I
make the best of living opposite a cherry orchard (newly planted this
year!), and being within easy reach of the V&A. We are barely five
minutes from town, and only ten from the railway station outside the
rush period, and within spitting distance of the A2, England's oldest
and busiest motorway (other than the M25, which is an 80mph traffic jam,
or an elaborate way of parking... it is most truly the Sigil of
Darkness), and yet frequently people get lost trying to find us! Kent
really is a county of two very different halves: madly busy townships
and rural backwaters cheek by jowl! And the roads all go east/west
because of the lie of the land, so getting from here to somewhere a mere
20 miles away to the south can take over an hour at the quiet times of
the day!
it would never do if we were all the same. :)
Pogonip
>
> I love being right in the city - strange, I grew up in an English
> village - but when I think about it, I realize this neighborhood is
> really just a village itself. Most things I want or need are within a
> couple of miles and many of them are in walking distance. However, I am
> absolutely delighted that most of my friends want to live either out in
> the 'burbs or right out in the country - leaves room for me here, and if
> everyone wanted to live here it would be unaffordable for the likes of
> me. I happily entertain my friends when they want a taste of the city,
> and completely ignore their comments about city noise. I also chortle
> when they talk about crime in the city, and then the tv shows they have
> just as many robberies and murders out there as we do in my 'hood.
>
> Olwyn Mary in New Orleans.
My early years were spent in a town of 2500 people, and I returned there
every summer until high school. Now, I live in a mid-sized city (which
has grown tremendously since I first came here in 1968) and I live
almost downtown. But there is a city park across the street, and we
have the largest yard in the area and it's filled with trees, some quite
old and tall, others smaller because we planted them over the past 30
years. There is a hospital just past the park and over the freeway, a
grocery and drug store about four blocks away. There are several
shopping centers and restaurants within a few more blocks, and we're 10
minutes from the airport. The downtown central area is about 10 blocks
away, and when the casinos have fireworks displays, I can watch them
from the front windows or the front porch. When we first moved into
this house, the neighborhood was a little iffy and the house had been
burglarized often. Since we've been here, we've had two burglaries, but
they were during the early years. We have added some security, but no
alarm system. Plus the neighborhood has improved. The park is a mixed
blessing - it's lovely to look at, but it does draw some unsavory types.
The city noise is now much reduced since we installed double-glazed
windows. Like you, Olwyn Mary, I like living here in the heart of things.
--
Joanne
stitches @ singerlady.reno.nv.us.earth.milky-way.com
http://members.tripod.com/~bernardschopen/
IMS
wrote:
>3. I did notice that when I pull the needle thread,
> rather than offering a smooth, steady resistance,
> it tends to hold and then let go, as if the tensioner
> plates were sticky. I took the thread tensioner
> apart and cleaned the plates (stainless steel?)
> with every solvent known to man, with no effect.
>
The 'symptom' you describe is very similar to a problem I had with a
Fashion Mate, where the tension 'stud' gear -- which the tension
spring is held against - was plastic (previously these were metal) and
had a barely discrernable crack in it due to age/brittleness. The
result was that every revolution of the check spring would result in a
'loosening' of tension because the crack would expand at that point,
throwing the spring off.
Your service tech can verify this by removing the tensioner and
checking the tension stud gear.
-Irene
BEI Design
> Olwyn.Mary wrote:
> >
> > I love being right in the city -
>
> returned there every summer until high school. Now, I
> live in a mid-sized city (which has grown tremendously
> since I first came here in 1968) and I live almost
Hey, Joanne, welcome back!!! Hope all is better, we missed
you.
I live just south of a largish city, in what was originally
a small self-contained town, but is now "the suburbs". I
love where I live, I'm just minutes away from downtown, and
I have some space here. Both my DDs opted to live in the
city, in 1930s era houses with very small lots. Different
strokes and all that.
--
Beverly
http://ickes.us/default.aspx
Olwyn.Mary
> I live just south of a largish city, in what was originally
> a small self-contained town, but is now "the suburbs". I
> love where I live, I'm just minutes away from downtown, and
> I have some space here. Both my DDs opted to live in the
> city, in 1930s era houses with very small lots. Different
> strokes and all that.
Our house was built in 1917, it is 2,000 sq ft., sitting on a minute
lot. This area was developed long before cars - some houses on this
block are ante-bellum - so they had to be close enough for people to
walk to work or at least to the horse-drawn streetcar. We have a pocket
handkerchief size lawn in front, and a tiny yard, about 1/3 of which is
taken up by the "little tin shed" containing dh's tools, another third
by a tiny patio just big enough for two garden chairs, a little table
and a pathway to the shed, and the rest is in ground cover. Quite
enough work for dh to maintain, thank you, we would rather sit on the
patio for morning coffee and just look at the ground cover, or sit on
the front porch in the afternoon or evening and watch the world go by.
Speaking of which, we have director's chairs on the porch, plus lots of
potted plants on the porch steps. The chairs were once covered in
bright yellow canvas which has now faded severely. While I was buying
lots of fabric a couple of weeks ago to make my summer wardrobe I also
bought new canvas to recover the chairs, and it really is time I got at
it. I have made two pairs of pants and two floor-length divided skirts
in the last two weeks, plus tops to go with them, and am now awaiting
the arrival of some knit fabrics to make tops to go with the remaining
pants fabric.
BEI Design
> BEI Design wrote:
<snip>
> Speaking of which, we have director's chairs on the
> porch, plus lots of potted plants on the porch steps. The
> chairs were once covered in bright yellow canvas
> which has now faded severely. While I was buying lots of
> fabric a couple of weeks ago to make my summer wardrobe I
> also bought new canvas to recover the chairs, and it
> really is time I got at it. I have made two pairs of
> pants and two floor-length divided skirts in the last two
> weeks, plus tops to go with them, and am now awaiting the
> arrival of some knit fabrics to make tops to go with the
> remaining pants fabric.
Aha! I just knew someone had to be doing some actual
sewing. Good luck on the canvas chair covers, did you get
Sunbrella?
--
Beverly
http://ickes.us/default.aspx
Olwyn.Mary
> Aha! I just knew someone had to be doing some actual
> sewing. Good luck on the canvas chair covers, did you get
> Sunbrella?
No, after I read up on the subject, including advice given on this
board, I chickened out and bought simple cotton canvas. It has been
twice through the "hot wash, cold rinse, hot dryer" routine to shrink it
and is awaiting my kind attention. However, so is a small heap of
household linens to be mended, so I will make myself do that first -
today, I hope.
BEI Design
Wouldn't you have saved time and aggravation by getting the
Sunbrella? I mean, how much did you save in initial $$ that
you wasted on water and electricity with multiple washings
and dryings? <GD&R>
--
Beverly
http://ickes.us/default.aspx
Olwyn.Mary
places had awful warnings about how this stuff really needs a commercial
machine, and how it can ruin a domestic one, etc. etc., and I know from
past experience that my good old White machine can handle both duck and
sailcloth, so I decided to stick with what I know in this case.
BEI Design
Thanks, I have never used Sunbrella, so never investigated
the possible issues. Good to know. I'd like to make some
covers for patio furniture one of these days.
--
Beverly
http://ickes.us/default.aspx
Olwyn.Mary
> Thanks, I have never used Sunbrella, so never investigated
> the possible issues. Good to know. I'd like to make some
> covers for patio furniture one of these days.
YMMV. When you get ready to think about it, look it all up again. They
might have improved things by then, who knows?
mamahays
And at $30 or so a yard..... I have used duck for several outdoor projects
and it was just fine. The huge cushion on the couch on my front porch is
duck. The only thing I do special is spray with Scotchguard after the
project is finished. Seems to work just fine.
That might be a good idea for you to keep in mind with your directors
chairs, Olwyn Mary. As damp as things get down your way (humidity much???
lol) That will help I would think. We are pretty humid up here too (not
quite to your standard, but almost.) The Scotchguard seems to help keep
the mildew down.
Sharon
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mamahays
>
> Aha! I just knew someone had to be doing some actual
> sewing. Good luck on the canvas chair covers, did you get
> Sunbrella?
>
Hey, I'm doing some actual sewing too. ;) Working on the wedding dress
still. Will post pics when it's done.
Anyone wanna come help weed the garden???? I'll send you home with a baggie
of green beans too. ;)
BEI Design
> Olwyn.Mary wrote:
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> > On 6/24/2010 6:09 PM, BEI Design wrote:
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> And at $30 or so a yard.....
Not always:
http://www.outdoorfabriccentral.com/sunbrella-furniture.html
and $16.54/yard for 54" widths. Lots of colors, too.
NAYY,
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Beverly
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BEI Design
> BEI Design wrote:
>
>
> >
> > Aha! I just knew someone had to be doing some actual
> > sewing.
>
> Hey, I'm doing some actual sewing too. ;) Working on
> the wedding dress still. Will post pics when it's done.
Is this for the older bride, the sensible one? ;-)
> Anyone wanna come help weed the garden???? I'll send you
> home with a baggie of green beans too. ;)
Pass, although I wouldn't mind some vine-ripened
tomatoes...
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Beverly
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