Spam filters
Karen Maslowski
which is awesome. It downloads each message as it comes through, and it
allows filters for unwanted posters. Whenever I see a spammer, I just
click on the message, and choose Message, then click on Create Filter
From Message. Then the next time that poster sends something to the
newsgroup, Thunderbird automatically deletes it before I can see it.
It's awesome.
You can download Thunderbird for free, as it's an open source program
like the Mozilla Firefox browser, which is also an awesome program, by
the way. mozilla.com
Hope this helps some of you who are having difficulties. We don't want
to lose you!
--
Karen Maslowski in Cincinnati
Juno
Karen,
I've tried setting up filters on Thunderbird and it's not working.
Thunderbird has done a great job with deleting spam from my email, but
not my groups. Any Ideas
Juno
Veloise
It is possible to killfile in Google groups, but AFAIK only using
Firefox
> If you are running Firefox, there is a way to turn on filtering on
> Google Groups.
> 1. Install Greasemonkey
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/748
> 2. Install Damian's Google Groups Killfile script
> http://www.penney.org/ggkiller.html
I just implemented this, and it works a charm! Very nice! All the
posts are suddenly back on-topic!!
--Karen D.
Pogonip
Love Thunderbird. I like it even better than the Free Agent I tried at
first. Of course, I'm a big Firefox fan, too, with the NoScript and
AdBlockPlus add-ons. Super surfing!!!
--
Joanne
stitches @ singerlady.reno.nv.us.earth.milky-way.com
http://members.tripod.com/~bernardschopen/
Pogonip
I am not Karen, nor have I played her on television, but if you click on
the highlighted sender (following "From" in the heading), then choose
the last item in the drop-down menu: "Create Filter from Message" you
get a box to make the filter. If everything is as you want, just click
the bottom "OK" and close. I then go to Tools: Message Filters to make
sure that the filter "took."
Juno
Joanne, Perhaps my problem is that I haven't done it on the highlighted
message heading. I have lots of names in the filter I just do see
anything being filter out. Next time someone pops up I'll try that way.
I usually click on a bunch of messages from losers just to get them out
of way. It's okay that your not Karen because you are Joanne , no
actually you are my favorite Pogo
Thanks, Juno
Pogonip
Hope it works for you. I find that sometimes the filter doesn't "take"
on my first try and lets a few messages slip through. I like that I can
either remove the messages or just mark them "read." On another
newsgroup, there are a couple of people I don't care to read unless an
interesting discussion ensues. Then I might want to go back to see what
started it.
Karen Maslowski
> Karen,
> I've tried setting up filters on Thunderbird and it's not working.
> Thunderbird has done a great job with deleting spam from my email, but
> not my groups. Any Ideas
> Juno
Well, this seems obvious, but it's the only thing I can think of. Have
you updated your Thunderbird program? There is now a newer version, and
that could be your problem. If you have updated, scratch this message.
Karen Maslowski
Feel free to impersonate me any time you like, Joanne-you said it well!
Juno
Did that as soon as the newer version came out.
If I ever get hold of my computer person(DS) I'll try to get more info
from him than ignore it.
Juno
Karen Maslowski
> Karen Maslowski wrote:
>> I read the newsgroup through the Mozilla Thunderbird email program,
>> which is awesome. It downloads each message as it comes through, and
>> it allows filters for unwanted posters. Whenever I see a spammer, I
>> just click on the message, and choose Message, then click on Create
>> Filter From Message. Then the next time that poster sends something
>> to the newsgroup, Thunderbird automatically deletes it before I can
>> see it. It's awesome.
>>
>> You can download Thunderbird for free, as it's an open source program
>> like the Mozilla Firefox browser, which is also an awesome program, by
>> the way. mozilla.com
>>
>> Hope this helps some of you who are having difficulties. We don't want
>> to lose you!
>
> Love Thunderbird. I like it even better than the Free Agent I tried at
> first. Of course, I'm a big Firefox fan, too, with the NoScript and
> AdBlockPlus add-ons. Super surfing!!!
Thanks, Joanne! These two add-ons will solve a long-running problem I have.
Pogonip
say. It remains to be seen if Juno is successful or not. Meanwhile, I
am cussing nymshifters who evade my filters, most likely because their
old addresses were shut down. That MI5 gets around.
Pogonip
drive, either, like M$'s bloatware.
Karen Maslowski
>>
> Thank you. Thank you very much. But the proof is in the pudding, as we
> say. It remains to be seen if Juno is successful or not. Meanwhile, I
> am cussing nymshifters who evade my filters, most likely because their
> old addresses were shut down. That MI5 gets around.
>
Boy, that's for sure! And that's what I figured, as well--that they got
shut down and had to come up with new addies. They're persistent, ain't
they?
Karen Maslowski
>>
> They're great, and you can't beat the price. They don't hog your hard
> drive, either, like M$'s bloatware.
>
Unfortunately, I still need IE for a couple of websites that I just
can't get to with Firefox. Otherwise I'd get rid of it altogether. And I
still need Office, but much less often than when I was working full-time.
I saw the coolest little handheld computer at Microcenter the other day.
It is about $400, and only has open source software on it, including the
Mozilla programs. If I were still traveling I'd be tempted to get it,
just to use for email and other light usage. I've never heard of the
brand before, maybe Asus? But it was tiny, while still having just about
everything you'd need for most daily computing.
BEI Design
> Thank you. Thank you very much. But the proof is in the
> pudding, as we say. It remains to be seen if Juno is
> successful or not. Meanwhile, I am cussing nymshifters
> who evade my filters, most likely because their old
> addresses were shut down. That MI5 gets around.
I use Firefox browser, but still us OE for e-mail and
reading newsgroups. I am able to set rules blocking
messages based on words and/or phrases in the subject line.
Are you able to do that in Thunderbird? After a few
off-topic messages, I set a new rule and don't see them
anymore.
Beverly
Pogonip
Yes, and I am making new filters for the subject line. But it's a PITA.
Pogonip
I hate sites that are so poorly constructed that they require IE. A web
designer who does that is incompetent. I have to question the owners of
the site, too, for tolerating that kind of shoddy work.
We will soon all be like Dick Tracy. Not just a wrist "radio" - which I
consider cell phones now, but a teensy computer as well. The problem is
the keyboard.
Karen Maslowski
> Karen Maslowski wrote:
>> Pogonip wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>> They're great, and you can't beat the price. They don't hog your
>>> hard drive, either, like M$'s bloatware.
>>>
>>
>
> I hate sites that are so poorly constructed that they require IE. A web
> designer who does that is incompetent. I have to question the owners of
> the site, too, for tolerating that kind of shoddy work.
>
> We will soon all be like Dick Tracy. Not just a wrist "radio" - which I
> consider cell phones now, but a teensy computer as well. The problem is
> the keyboard.
Agreed, about the shoddy work. The ones I have the most trouble with are
Amex and a Visa website, oddly enough.
The keyboard on the little open source system was small, but not as
small as those teensy tiny ones that you see on Blackberry-type devices.
I have small hands, and it was just on the verge of being a comfortable
size. It was small enough to put in a large handbag, which was cool.
enigma
news:84d0e$47793358$422a87ca$44...@FUSE.NET:
> Pogonip wrote:
>
>>>
>> They're great, and you can't beat the price. They don't
>> hog your hard drive, either, like M$'s bloatware.
>>
>
> Unfortunately, I still need IE for a couple of websites
> that I just can't get to with Firefox. Otherwise I'd get
> rid of it altogether. And I still need Office, but much
> less often than when I was working full-time.
you need IE Tab for Firefox. yet another handy free download
from the Firefox add-ons site. it lets you open a tab in
virtual IE, without bothering to open the IE browser at all:)
i have Open Office instead of M$ Office. works fine for the
little i use it (almost never)
lee
Joy Beeson
<nobeide...@comcast.net.invalid> wrote:
> I use Firefox browser, but still us OE for e-mail and
> reading newsgroups. I am able to set rules blocking
> messages based on words and/or phrases in the subject line.
> Are you able to do that in Thunderbird? After a few
> off-topic messages, I set a new rule and don't see them
> anymore.
But MI-5 has started putting random spaces and punctuation marks into
its subject lines; the only mechanical way to filter is on crossposts.
Unfortunately, my edition of Agent doesn't have a manual, so I've been
unable to make it filter on the "Newsgroups:" field. But MI-5's
posts are easy to spot and delete.
There's another spam in the middle of the bunch often enough that I
wonder whether the purpose isn't to smuggle that one into attention,
by playing on the "am I deleting legitimate messages" filter. And is
that purpose "rather than" or "in addition to" training us to ignore
complaints about Big Brother.
Joy Beeson
--
joy beeson at comcast dot net
http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ -- sewing
http://n3f.home.comcast.net/ -- Writers' Exchange
The above message is a Usenet post.
I don't recall having given anyone permission to use it on a Web site.
Pogonip
That's very cool!!! I'm going to get that. I hate to open IE since it
seems to spread out so much. Plus it lets so much through that I worry
about getting infections.
FarmI
> I use Firefox browser, but still us OE for e-mail and reading newsgroups.
> I am able to set rules blocking messages based on words and/or phrases in
> the subject line.
You're more tolerant than I am. I too use OE but if I notice a crossposter
who I think is joining in the spamming, I just hit "block sender". I guess
I could always retrieve the killfiled poster, but I've not had to do so yet.
enigma
news:477986cb$1...@news.bnb-lp.com:
> enigma wrote:
>>> you need IE Tab for Firefox. yet another handy free
>> download
>> from the Firefox add-ons site. it lets you open a tab in
>> virtual IE, without bothering to open the IE browser at
>> all:)
> That's very cool!!! I'm going to get that. I hate to open
> IE since it seems to spread out so much. Plus it lets so
> much through that I worry about getting infections.
it's nice because you can have just the tab you need for a
particular website in IE, & it doesn't affect any other tabs.
anything that helps avoid opening IE is a wonderful thing.
lee
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if
there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of
blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
AK&DStrohl
>>>> you need IE Tab for Firefox. yet another handy free
>>> download
>>> from the Firefox add-ons site. it lets you open a tab in
>>> virtual IE, without bothering to open the IE browser at
>>> all:)
Huh??
For the IT challeged, especially those who have known nothing else but
Internet Explorer and Outlook Express, you're talking another language.
I want to know that the messages that I have accumulated in both the above
mentioned programs are going to move over-safely- to the new program.
It doesn't matter if it's free if it doesn't keep the years of information
gathering safe and usable.
And speaking of another language....I want to be able to access and have
interpreted both websites and newsgroups in German. But I'm having the same
problem as here....what the hey does this program do for me???
Any suggestions?? In basic English please...<VBG>
Thanks,
AK in PA
FarmI
>>> enigma wrote:
>>>>> you need IE Tab for Firefox. yet another handy free
>>>> download
>>>> from the Firefox add-ons site. it lets you open a tab in
>>>> virtual IE, without bothering to open the IE browser at
>>>> all:)
>
>
> Huh??
> For the IT challeged, especially those who have known nothing else but
> Internet Explorer and Outlook Express, you're talking another language.
:-)) I was just thinking exactly the same thing.
enigma
news:477ae597$0$30456$5a62...@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net
.au:
you mean IE doesn't have tabs? i *love* tabs. you can have
multiple websites open at once in one browser window & flip
back & forth between them. it's so handy for comparing prices
or doing research.
lee
FarmI
> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in
>> "AK&DStrohl" <str...@enter.net> wrote in message
>>>>> enigma wrote:
>>>>>>> you need IE Tab for Firefox. yet another handy free
>>>>>> download
>>>>>> from the Firefox add-ons site. it lets you open a tab
>>>>>> in virtual IE, without bothering to open the IE browser
>>>>>> at all:)
>>>
>>>
>>> Huh??
>>> For the IT challeged, especially those who have known
>>> nothing else but Internet Explorer and Outlook Express,
>>> you're talking another language.
>>
>>:-)) I was just thinking exactly the same thing.
>
> you mean IE doesn't have tabs?
Ummmmmmmm????? In words of one syllable or less; what's a 'tab' look like?
It might have them but since I dont' recognise that
word.....................???
i *love* tabs. you can have
> multiple websites open at once in one browser window & flip
> back & forth between them. it's so handy for comparing prices
> or doing research.
I can flip backwards and forwards from one URL to another easily in IE. For
example, if I do a google search and come up with the usual 60 million hits,
I will highlight one that I'm interested in and then select "Open in a new
window" and, while that is opeing, I can then go on highlighting at the
google screen and "opening in new windows" till I have 10 or many more URLs
showing. i can then just go backwards and forward by hitting on the site I
want to read and back again. Does that make sense?
> lee
Karen Maslowski
> I can flip backwards and forwards from one URL to another easily in IE. For
> example, if I do a google search and come up with the usual 60 million hits,
> I will highlight one that I'm interested in and then select "Open in a new
> window" and, while that is opeing, I can then go on highlighting at the
> google screen and "opening in new windows" till I have 10 or many more URLs
> showing. i can then just go backwards and forward by hitting on the site I
> want to read and back again. Does that make sense?
>> lee
>
>
Tabs are similar, except that only one window is open, but multiple tabs
of it. It's sort of like an indexed notebook, if that makes any
sense--one notebook, but many tabs with different subjects in each. One
option is to open a tab that makes the website think you are opening it
in Internet Explorer. Some sites either look weird in Firefox, or they
won't open at all, so this is handy. (For the record, I rarely use this
option.)
Coincidentally, I just showed my husband how to use the tabs in Firefox
today!
FarmI
> FarmI wrote:
>
>> I can flip backwards and forwards from one URL to another easily in IE.
>> For example, if I do a google search and come up with the usual 60
>> million hits, I will highlight one that I'm interested in and then select
>> "Open in a new window" and, while that is opeing, I can then go on
>> highlighting at the google screen and "opening in new windows" till I
>> have 10 or many more URLs showing. i can then just go backwards and
>> forward by hitting on the site I want to read and back again. Does that
>> make sense?
>>> lee
>>
>>
> Tabs are similar, except that only one window is open, but multiple tabs
> of it. It's sort of like an indexed notebook, if that makes any sense--one
> notebook, but many tabs with different subjects in each.
That makes sense. I think Acrobat (or one of the other progs I use) has
that sort of thing.
One
> option is to open a tab that makes the website think you are opening it in
> Internet Explorer. Some sites either look weird in Firefox, or they won't
> open at all, so this is handy. (For the record, I rarely use this option.)
>
> Coincidentally, I just showed my husband how to use the tabs in Firefox
> today!
Syncronicity at work!
AK&DStrohl
>>>> you need IE Tab for Firefox. yet another handy free
>>> download
>>> from the Firefox add-ons site. it lets you open a tab in
>>> virtual IE, without bothering to open the IE browser at
>>> all:)
I don't understand how I use IE to open a tab for Firefox and not open IE at
all. That 's what it seems like this is saying. How do I *not* open a
program and still have access through that program to open another
program.???
I know how to use tabs like I'm opening another window and go back and forth
between them. Done that already. But make a site think I'm using it in IE
when I'm in Firefox............??? From what I've been experiencing it's
not like I have a choice. I have IE and am using a tab in IE to access
another site.
I open a window and go to eBay, sign in etc and check on some items. I want
to check a price so I open a tab and google the item. Nothing there tells
me I'm not using IE when I open a tab in IE. I really don't get this.
Then I read today from someone elses post how some programs look funny in
Firefox or don't work at all. OOOohhhh noooo!! That's not an option. If
you think I'm IT challenged don't even begin to talk to hubby about IT
things. He gets more befuddled than I when talking IT or worse it's not
working when and how it is supposed to. I get the blame if it doesn't work
right. It must be all those emails I get doing the damage!!!
I think we better just quit this while I still have a brain. Or do I just
open a tab and have a new brain...................<G>
AK in PA
Juno
puter you can hear him yell from miles away, JUNO, Somethings wrong with
the computer. Usually it's because he's hit the wrong thing, but he'll
never admit to that. So you see it probably doesn't matter if you
understand what's happening or not, He's still going to yell, what's
wrong here. Then you make up an answer like it the -------- (Fill in the
space with your own reason)thing.
Juno
enigma
news:477c07f6$0$30790$cd3e...@news.enter.net:
>>> enigma wrote:
>>>>> you need IE Tab for Firefox. yet another handy free
>>>> download
>>>> from the Firefox add-ons site. it lets you open a tab in
>>>> virtual IE, without bothering to open the IE browser at
>>>> all:)
>
>
> I don't understand how I use IE to open a tab for Firefox
> and not open IE at all. That 's what it seems like this
> is saying. How do I *not* open a program and still have
> access through that program to open another program.???
you don't use IE to open anything. you use the Firefox
browser, which has little add-on programs (called extentions)
available to make it more useful to your individual ways of
browsing. things like flash blocking, which prevents any
website from using flash without your express permission, or
ad blocking, or the virtual IE tab, which allows Firefox to
act like an IE browser in one (or more if you like) individual
tab... without the gaping security holes that the real IE
browser has.
in other words, you never have to use IE again, even for the
abysmally programed sites that only work properly in IE. you
have your Firefox browser open, you go to a site that doesn't
work correctly, you hit the little button on the bottom right
of the browser window which switches the browser to IE mode &
hit reload page. ta daaaa.
i *never* use IE or OE. ever. my browser is Firefox, my email
is Pegasus (although that's no longer supported), i use xNews
for reading Usenet. anything Microsoft does, third party
software can do better, safer & cheaper.
>
> I know how to use tabs like I'm opening another window and
> go back and forth between them. Done that already. But
> make a site think I'm using it in IE when I'm in
> Firefox............??? From what I've been experiencing
> it's not like I have a choice. I have IE and am using a
> tab in IE to access another site.
> I open a window and go to eBay, sign in etc and check on
> some items. I want to check a price so I open a tab and
> google the item. Nothing there tells me I'm not using IE
> when I open a tab in IE. I really don't get this.
because you're using IE. you're not using Firefox. if you use
Firefox, you can add an extention that allows Firefox to
emulate IE.
>
> Then I read today from someone elses post how some programs
> look funny in Firefox or don't work at all. OOOohhhh
> noooo!! That's not an option.
which is why we use IE Tab.
see, Microsoft makes a substandard web design package called
Front Page, which doesn't follow standard web design (HTML)
protocols. their IE browser can read their substandard design
(because it's designed so people have to use their browser to
see Front Page written sites), but *real* web browsers can't
translate the bad design language.
the IE Tab add-on to Firefox "translates the bad design,
without opening the security holes that exist when using IE.
> I think we better just quit this while I still have a
> brain. Or do I just open a tab and have a new
> brain...................<G>
oh, i certainly could use a new brain extention or even a tab!
yup, that would be *so* useful about now :)
lee
Karen Maslowski
you can download from Mozilla.com for free. Then it allows you to make a
choice how to open a program, but there's a little trick to it. Instead
of simply clicking on a bookmark, you have to right-click on it. A menu
opens, and one of the choices is "Open in IE tab". When you click on
that option, the new tab opens, and it is literally in Internet
Explorer, but inside the Firefox program.
I just tested this to see if it would work for me with our American
Express account, which I've never been able to open in Firefox. It does!
Plus, that option allows me to also use the script-limiting program I
also installed recently, called NoScript, and the other cool little apps
that Mozilla lets you add on. If you go to the website there are all
kinds of programs, with descriptions.
Hope this helps!
enigma
> I just tested this to see if it would work for me with our
> American Express account, which I've never been able to
> open in Firefox.
really? i open AmEx is Firefox with no problms. i have a
blocked Flash window in the middle & the log-in box on the
left.
when i first got Firefox i had a problem & called AmEx tech
support to complain. they said they were working on a fix. it
was implemented a week or so later & i haven't had a problem
since.
lee
Karen Maslowski
S R Glickman
Many thanks.
Susan