tutu tulle troubles ?
robb
tutu/skirt directions of all things :}
I am having trouble understanding the layout/cutting and the
piecing ?
I am trying to make *skirt H* calls for 6.25 yds.
The pattern for *H* is a large rectangle of (55" x 17") or (140
cm x 44 cm)
On one of the short sides of the pattern is a **FOLD** line. On
the opposite short side it has a center back line .
Layout Skirt H:
============
it has the directions box labeled as 72" (180cm) ?? (there is
nothing 72 " about the the 6.25 yds of 54" wide tulle)
the cutting layout shows a piece of crosswise folded fabric
(right sides together , wrong side out ). The front of the
pattern is laying on top of the folded fabric. Next to that front
pattern piece is a gray box exact same size as the pattern piece
(that indicates the wrong side of the pattern) is placed there.
The boxes would meet at the pattern's *FOLD* line. But this fold
line is nowhere near the fabric's crosswise folded line ?
So, am i suppose to cut through both layers of crosswise folded
fabric ? that would give me a strip of tulle that has the
dimensions of (220 " x 17 ") = (18 ' x 17") = (560 cm x 44cm)
. There are three of those pieces needed.
That sounds like areally long piece of tulle for a 3yr old's
tutu ??
Sewing skirt H:
============
Says, "stitch each FRONT and BACK section together at the center
back with double stitched seam. Leave open above the * "
then, "Pin each front and back section together, placing wrong
sides over right sides and make raw edges even. "
then , "gather edge of garment between the small * *. Attach
ribbon to make the waist etc....
what does stitch each front and back together at center back
line mean ?
So the rest means : stack , sew and gather on top side ?
anyways,
I think the sewing part would make sense if the layout cutting
part made more sense to me.
I do not know why this layout cutting makes no sense to me,
thanks for any insights
robb
Betsy
> I am using *Butterick 6660* and am having trouble with the
> tutu/skirt directions of all things :}
>
> I am having trouble understanding the layout/cutting and the
> piecing ?
>
> I am trying to make *skirt H* calls for 6.25 yds.
>
> The pattern for *H* is a large rectangle of (55" x 17") or (140
> cm x 44 cm)
> On one of the short sides of the pattern is a **FOLD** line. On
> the opposite short side it has a center back line .
>
> Layout Skirt H:
> ============
> it has the directions box labeled as 72" (180cm) ?? (there is
> nothing 72 " about the the 6.25 yds of 54" wide tulle)
On the Butterick website, it lists 6.25 yds of 72" tulle for skirt H.
Given what you bought, I would make sure the ends of the tulle were cut
straight, then cut it in half so you have 2 54" wide, 112.5" long
pieces. The length won't be exactly that but it won't matter.
Cut these strips into thirds lengthwise. You will now have 6 pieces
that are about 18" wide and 112 " long.
If the skirt was supposed to be 5 layers, you will have 1 extra strip.
If you want a 3 layer skirt, you can make 2.
>
> Sewing skirt H:
> ============
> Says, "stitch each FRONT and BACK section together at the center
> back with double stitched seam. Leave open above the * "
> then, "Pin each front and back section together, placing wrong
> sides over right sides and make raw edges even. "
> then , "gather edge of garment between the small * *. Attach
> ribbon to make the waist etc....
>
> what does stitch each front and back together at center back
> line mean ?
Each strip is a "Front and Back" piece, the middle of the strip is the
center front and the ends of the strip are sewn together to form the
center back.
Your strips are long, so you will need to be careful follow along their
length to make sure you don't sew the center back seam in with a twist
in the fabric.
> So the rest means : stack , sew and gather on top side ?
>
After you sew each center back seam separately, you will put the layers
together matching the center backs, then treat them as one.
--Betsy
Kate XXXXXX
> I am using *Butterick 6660* and am having trouble with the
> tutu/skirt directions of all things :}
>
> I am having trouble understanding the layout/cutting and the
> piecing ?
>
> I am trying to make *skirt H* calls for 6.25 yds.
>
> The pattern for *H* is a large rectangle of (55" x 17") or (140
> cm x 44 cm)
> On one of the short sides of the pattern is a **FOLD** line. On
> the opposite short side it has a center back line .
This indicates that the FOLD line goes against the fold of the fabric,
which you have folded in half across the width, giving a double layered
rectangle just a tad over 3 yards long... The other open end of the
rectrangle will be sewn as the seam.
>
> Layout Skirt H:
> ============
> it has the directions box labeled as 72" (180cm) ?? (there is
> nothing 72 " about the the 6.25 yds of 54" wide tulle)
>
> the cutting layout shows a piece of crosswise folded fabric
> (right sides together , wrong side out ). The front of the
> pattern is laying on top of the folded fabric. Next to that front
> pattern piece is a gray box exact same size as the pattern piece
> (that indicates the wrong side of the pattern) is placed there.
> The boxes would meet at the pattern's *FOLD* line. But this fold
> line is nowhere near the fabric's crosswise folded line ?
>
> So, am i suppose to cut through both layers of crosswise folded
> fabric ? that would give me a strip of tulle that has the
> dimensions of (220 " x 17 ") = (18 ' x 17") = (560 cm x 44cm)
> . There are three of those pieces needed.
>
> That sounds like areally long piece of tulle for a 3yr old's
> tutu ??
No that's about right for this skirt. You'll end up with three layers
of tulle, all 17" from waistband to hem and with a hem circumference of
220 or so inches. You leave an opening at the top edge of all three
layers, and gather the three up (probably together: just put them inside
each other so you have a single piece 220" in circumference and three
layers thick, with the back openings aligned), put the gathering
stitched in round the top, gather it all up, and your lass will have a
wonderfully light, full and puffy ballet skirt.
A dinnerplate style tutu for an adult would take four or five times this
yardage! Tulle squshes up into a tiny space.
>
>
> Sewing skirt H:
> ============
> Says, "stitch each FRONT and BACK section together at the center
> back with double stitched seam. Leave open above the * "
The long strip is both front and back: the seam is at the center back,
the fold the center front.
> then, "Pin each front and back section together, placing wrong
> sides over right sides and make raw edges even. "
Without the pix I'm not sure. I'd do a plain open seam, stitched twice,
and trim the seam allowances down to about 1/4". You stitch it twice
becaue tulle is a pain and the seam needs to be secure. On the other
hand, it doen't fray so there's no need to neaten raw edges or hems.
> then , "gather edge of garment between the small * *. Attach
> ribbon to make the waist etc....
>
> what does stitch each front and back together at center back
> line mean ?
Just make a seam up the back!
> So the rest means : stack , sew and gather on top side ?
Yup, as above. Sew each back seam separately, *then* stack and gather
the waist.
>
> anyways,
> I think the sewing part would make sense if the layout cutting
> part made more sense to me.
>
> I do not know why this layout cutting makes no sense to me,
> thanks for any insights
> robb
The person writing the distructions is very rarely the one who made the
test garment.
I hope this helps.
--
Kate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.katedicey.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!
Betsy
> robb wrote:
>> I am using *Butterick 6660* and am having trouble with the
>> tutu/skirt directions of all things :}
>>
>> I am having trouble understanding the layout/cutting and the
>> piecing ?
>>
>> I am trying to make *skirt H* calls for 6.25 yds.
>>
>> The pattern for *H* is a large rectangle of (55" x 17") or (140
>> cm x 44 cm)
>> On one of the short sides of the pattern is a **FOLD** line. On
>> the opposite short side it has a center back line .
>>
>> Layout Skirt H:
>> ============
>> it has the directions box labeled as 72" (180cm) ?? (there is
>> nothing 72 " about the the 6.25 yds of 54" wide tulle)
>
> On the Butterick website, it lists 6.25 yds of 72" tulle for skirt H.
>
> Given what you bought, I would make sure the ends of the tulle were cut
> straight, then cut it in half so you have 2 54" wide, 112.5" long
> pieces. The length won't be exactly that but it won't matter.
Oops, I wasn't thinking clearly. You don't want to cut it in half
because you really do want the strips to be almost 6.25 yards long. If
you really have bought the 54" wide fabric, it will give you a three
layer skirt.
--Betsy
AMM
wrote:
> robb wrote:
> > I am using *Butterick 6660* and am having trouble with the
> > tutu/skirt directions of all things :}
> No that's about right for this skirt. You'll end up with three layers
> of tulle, all 17" from waistband to hem and with a hem circumference of
> 220 or so inches. You leave an opening at the top edge of all three
> layers, and gather the three up (probably together: just put them inside
> each other so you have a single piece 220" in circumference and three
> layers thick, with the back openings aligned), put the gathering
> stitched in round the top, gather it all up, and your lass will have a
> wonderfully light, full and puffy ballet skirt.
>
> A dinnerplate style tutu for an adult would take four or five times this
> yardage! Tulle squshes up into a tiny space.
So the basic idea of a tutu is just multiple layers of tulle,
gathered at the waist? (_Very_ gathered, if we're talking
about 220 in -> O(10 in.) for a 3-year-old's waist)
_That_ doesn't sound so complicated (a real PITA, but
not complicated.)
I once tried to find instructions for making a tutu online,
and it sounded much more complicated and was impossible
to understand. I decided it must be one of those arcane
things that is only explained to those who have undergone
the special secret initiation rites at the full moon and learned
the secret handshake, or something.
I also had the impression that Official Ballet Tutus must use
something different from the usual tulle you get at your
local home sewist's fabric shop. Something stiffer,
at any rate.
Kate XXXXXX
> On Dec 11, 5:43 pm, Kate XXXXXX <k...@diceyhome.free-online.co.uk>
> wrote:
>> robb wrote:
>>> I am using *Butterick 6660* and am having trouble with the
>>> tutu/skirt directions of all things :}
> ....
>> No that's about right for this skirt. You'll end up with three layers
>> of tulle, all 17" from waistband to hem and with a hem circumference of
>> 220 or so inches. You leave an opening at the top edge of all three
>> layers, and gather the three up (probably together: just put them inside
>> each other so you have a single piece 220" in circumference and three
>> layers thick, with the back openings aligned), put the gathering
>> stitched in round the top, gather it all up, and your lass will have a
>> wonderfully light, full and puffy ballet skirt.
>>
>> A dinnerplate style tutu for an adult would take four or five times this
>> yardage! Tulle squshes up into a tiny space.
>
> So the basic idea of a tutu is just multiple layers of tulle,
> gathered at the waist? (_Very_ gathered, if we're talking
> about 220 in -> O(10 in.) for a 3-year-old's waist)
> _That_ doesn't sound so complicated (a real PITA, but
> not complicated.)
Yup! :D
>
> I once tried to find instructions for making a tutu online,
> and it sounded much more complicated and was impossible
> to understand. I decided it must be one of those arcane
> things that is only explained to those who have undergone
> the special secret initiation rites at the full moon and learned
> the secret handshake, or something.
If you want to see how it's done, this is the best information:
> http://www.tutu.com/bks_costume.html
Books, not on-line intructions.
>
> I also had the impression that Official Ballet Tutus must use
> something different from the usual tulle you get at your
> local home sewist's fabric shop. Something stiffer,
> at any rate.
Dress net. I think in the USA it's sometimes refered to as 'crinoline'?
And the layers start at the bottom as very small ruffles and get wider
as you go up. They are sewn onto panties made from English Net (which
is cotton), in 10 or 12 bands, the layers are then basted together and
stiffened with wire. Then there is a basque part that forms a yoke from
waist to hip with a skirt section on it, and this carries all the
decoration. Over that you wear a boned and decorated bodice, and the
two fix together at the yoke/hip line with hooks and hand worked loops.
It does up at the back with hooks and eyes. Zipz are not strong
enough for the stresses of dancing.
Sharon Hays
> AMM wrote:
>> On Dec 11, 5:43 pm, Kate XXXXXX <k...@diceyhome.free-online.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>> robb wrote:
>>>> I am using *Butterick 6660* and am having trouble with the
>>>> tutu/skirt directions of all things :}
>> ....
>>> No that's about right for this skirt. You'll end up with three layers
>>> of tulle, all 17" from waistband to hem and with a hem circumference of
>>> 220 or so inches. You leave an opening at the top edge of all three
>>> layers, and gather the three up (probably together: just put them inside
>>> each other so you have a single piece 220" in circumference and three
>>> layers thick, with the back openings aligned), put the gathering
>>> stitched in round the top, gather it all up, and your lass will have a
>>> wonderfully light, full and puffy ballet skirt.
>>>
>>> A dinnerplate style tutu for an adult would take four or five times this
>>> yardage! Tulle squshes up into a tiny space.
>>
>> So the basic idea of a tutu is just multiple layers of tulle,
>> gathered at the waist? (_Very_ gathered, if we're talking
>> about 220 in -> O(10 in.) for a 3-year-old's waist)
>> _That_ doesn't sound so complicated (a real PITA, but
>> not complicated.)
>
> Yup! :D
>>
yep yep again. :) If they're just play or costume (not for a ballet) that's
all there is to it.
>> I once tried to find instructions for making a tutu online,
>> and it sounded much more complicated and was impossible
>> to understand. I decided it must be one of those arcane
>> things that is only explained to those who have undergone
>> the special secret initiation rites at the full moon and learned
>> the secret handshake, or something.
We might could tell you, but then......well you know. ;)
> Dress net. I think in the USA it's sometimes refered to as 'crinoline'?
Crinoline usually refers to the slip type undergarment that adds a lot of
body to the skirt of what it's worn under. Either the totally separate kind
like you can buy in a bridal store, or the built in type. Layers of
netting or tulle, sometimes topped with a layer of taffeta.
I think what you call dress net is just netting over here. So far as I know
anyway. ;) Although there is "illusion." That seems to be halfway between
tulle and heavy weight nylon netting. I think that started out as a brand
name and now everyone just tosses that name around to refer to that type of
fabric....like "kleenex." Illusion most of the time has sparkles in it
too.
Sharon
--
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of time and just annoys the
pig.
robb
"Betsy" <be...@eskimo.com> wrote in message
news:7ofuovF...@mid.individual.net...
> robb wrote:
> > I am using *Butterick 6660* and am having trouble with the
> > tutu/skirt directions of all things :}
> > I am having trouble understanding the layout/cutting and the
> > piecing ?
> >
> --Betsy
Thanks Betsy,
For all the useful comments and instructions.
I appreciate your time and help.
Posts of pics soon to follow.
robb
robb
"Kate XXXXXX" <ka...@diceyhome.free-online.co.uk> wrote in message
news:OdWdnT9bAdzOVL_W...@brightview.co.uk...
> robb wrote:
> > I am using *Butterick 6660* and am having trouble with the
> > tutu/skirt directions of all things :}
> >
> > I am having trouble understanding the layout/cutting and the
> > piecing ?
> >
> > I am trying to make *skirt H* calls for 6.25 yds.
[trim useful help from Kate]
> Kate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls
> Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
> http://www.katedicey.co.uk
> Click on Kate's Pages and explore!
Thanks Kate,
For all the helpful instructions I do appreciate your help
I hope to have some pics posted soon.
robb
robb
"robb" <so...@where.on.net> wrote in message
news:oqydnU9hCe1dAr_W...@earthlink.com...
> I am using *Butterick 6660* and am having trouble with the
> tutu/skirt directions of all things :}
>
> I am having trouble understanding the layout/cutting and the
> piecing ?
>
> I am trying to make *skirt H* calls for 6.25 yds.
>
Here are the pics of tutu and leotard.
The leotard was made from a repurposed silky soft addidas
cotton/poly/lycra XL long sleeve athletic shirt purchased off
clearance rack at an outlet store ($3). The front and rear
leotard pieces were cut from the long sleeves and almost enough
left over in the shirt sleeves to cut some short sleeves for
leotard 8)
Not great, you'll see the mistakes but it is for play/fun so i
was not being too particular.
I ended up making folds/pleats instead of gathers as i still have
a hard time taming gathers for sewing.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/25477361@N05/sets/72157622929485787/
thanks to everyone for the help
robb
robb
>
> "robb" <so...@where.on.net> wrote in message
> news:oqydnU9hCe1dAr_W...@earthlink.com...
> > I am using *Butterick 6660* and am having trouble with the
> > tutu/skirt directions of all things :}
> >
> >
>
> Here are the pics of tutu and leotard.
>
> The leotard was made from a repurposed silky soft addidas
> cotton/poly/lycra XL long sleeve athletic shirt purchased off
> clearance rack at an outlet store ($3). The front and rear
> leotard pieces were cut from the long sleeves and almost enough
> left over in the shirt sleeves to cut some short sleeves for
> leotard 8)
>
> Not great, you'll see the mistakes but it is for play/fun so i
> was not being too particular.
> I ended up making folds/pleats instead of gathers as i still
have
> a hard time taming gathers for sewing.
>
>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/25477361@N05/sets/72157622929485787/
>
> thanks to everyone for the help
>
> robb
sorry for double post. i should have changed the header to
indicate the pics posted.
Lizzy Taylor
> Here are the pics of tutu and leotard.
>
> The leotard was made from a repurposed silky soft addidas
> cotton/poly/lycra XL long sleeve athletic shirt purchased off
> clearance rack at an outlet store ($3). The front and rear
> leotard pieces were cut from the long sleeves and almost enough
> left over in the shirt sleeves to cut some short sleeves for
> leotard 8)
>
> Not great, you'll see the mistakes but it is for play/fun so i
> was not being too particular.
> I ended up making folds/pleats instead of gathers as i still have
> a hard time taming gathers for sewing.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/25477361@N05/sets/72157622929485787/
Someone is going to have lots of fun dressing up in that - ballet
dancer, princess, cinderella etc etc.
Nice job, you may see the mistakes, but the recipient won't.
Have a good Christmas
Lizzy
Kate XXXXXX
--
Juno B
> robb wrote:
>> "robb" <so...@where.on.net> wrote in message
>> news:oqydnU9hCe1dAr_W...@earthlink.com...
>>> I am using *Butterick 6660* and am having trouble with the
>>> tutu/skirt directions of all things :}
>>>
>>> I am having trouble understanding the layout/cutting and the
>>> piecing ?
>>>
>>> I am trying to make *skirt H* calls for 6.25 yds.
>>>
>>
>> Here are the pics of tutu and leotard.
>>
>> The leotard was made from a repurposed silky soft addidas
>> cotton/poly/lycra XL long sleeve athletic shirt purchased off
>> clearance rack at an outlet store ($3). The front and rear
>> leotard pieces were cut from the long sleeves and almost enough
>> left over in the shirt sleeves to cut some short sleeves for
>> leotard 8)
>>
>> Not great, you'll see the mistakes but it is for play/fun so i
>> was not being too particular.
>> I ended up making folds/pleats instead of gathers as i still have
>> a hard time taming gathers for sewing.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/25477361@N05/sets/72157622929485787/
>>
>> thanks to everyone for the help
>>
>> robb
>>
> Fun! And dead cute! Swan Lake next? ;)
>
were fun. I always saw the mistakes. but those 2 little girls never did.
.They still remind of the time I made them tutus and how they wore them
forever. The are now 23 and 20. Little girls love things like that.Big
girls love having the memories.
Juno
Betsy
>
> Here are the pics of tutu and leotard.
>
> The leotard was made from a repurposed silky soft addidas
> cotton/poly/lycra XL long sleeve athletic shirt purchased off
> clearance rack at an outlet store ($3). The front and rear
> leotard pieces were cut from the long sleeves and almost enough
> left over in the shirt sleeves to cut some short sleeves for
> leotard 8)
>
> Not great, you'll see the mistakes but it is for play/fun so i
> was not being too particular.
> I ended up making folds/pleats instead of gathers as i still have
> a hard time taming gathers for sewing.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/25477361@N05/sets/72157622929485787/
>
> thanks to everyone for the help
>
> robb
>
Nice work, it will provide lots of fun. Sometimes it seems like my
little girls live in tutus.
--Betsy
BEI Design
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/25477361@N05/sets/72157622929485787/
>
> thanks to everyone for the help
That's very cute, Robb, I know the recipient will LOVE it!
When you make the next one, here's another way cute idea:
double the fabric *lengthwise* of the skirt (don't cut the
fold), then fold it on the "hem" line. Before adding
gathering stitches throw handfuls of loose silk rose petals
in all around the hem (you can find them in the bridal area
of craft shops). I made one like that for DGD about 10
years ago, she twirled for weeks. ;-)
--
Beverly
http://ickes.us/default.aspx
Emily Bengston
You did a terrific job, with very minor mistakes that are hard to detect.
I know the little girl is thrilled beyond words to have such an outfit, made
with so much love. May she have a wonderful time playing in it.
A Most Joyous Christmas and Wonderful New Year to you and yours.
-- Emily
Sharon Hays
I think that came out cute as can be. Great job on the repurposing. :) And
the tutu is cute as can be. She will have a great time dancing around the
house in that. :)