Pfaff 130 value?
John Smith
Thanks
Ron
Melinda Meahan
has the 12 buttons on the top? If so, they were selling several used
ones at a local SM store a year or two for $100-something (USD) with a
warranty. If it is not in *good* condition it is not worth much at all.
They are undoubtedly the kind of machine that is worth more than it will
sell for, like an old car with no residual value but that still works
perfectly well is worth more than it will sell for. I have several
reliable old work horses that aren't worth much to sell but worth lots
because they are so reliable.
John Smith wrote:
>What is a Pfaff 130 worth? Does anyone know?
>
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JAXAshby
When I was looking for that specific machine (because of its reputation in
sailmaking and marine canvas work) I found them available from about $75 (not
often and usually well run out) up to $750 (supposedly "rebuilt"), mostly from
about $225 to $500.
I ended up buying a Sailrite LSZ-1 (the zig-zag model), -- now about $900 --
with every last thing on it a sailmaker/canvas worker might want (handcrank,
portable case, special feet for 3/4 oz cloth and others for piping and such),
because 1.) a [nyc] garment center sewing machine repair show told me that
parts for the Pfaff 130 are often hard to find, 2.) I heard [on this site, if I
remember correctly] that the 130 has soooooo many small parts inside that if
the machine is not used over a period time [even tho well oiled] some bearings
go very bad, and 130's are now 40 some years old while the Sailrite was brand
new.
btw, a Pfaff 230 may be as good or even perhaps a better machine than the 130
and usually goes for about $200 or maybe a bit more.
A Pfaff 138 (a **seriously** heavy duty version of the 130, and way too heavy
to move around more than once, and even that requires a couple of guys and a
strong boy) can usually be had for about the price of a 130. A 138 is an
industial strength workhorse and looks and acts it.
If you don't need the zig-zag, used Sailrite/Thompson machines can usually be
had for about $300 with walking foot, and all able to sew 3/4 oz nylon up to
about 65 oz of resin impregnated dacron sailcloth or 8 layers of Sunbrella
canvas. (If you want one of these they often are for sale used at
www.sailrite.com "classified ads")
>Thanks
>
>Ron
penny s
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> If you don't need the zig-zag, used Sailrite/Thompson machines can usually
be
> had for about $300 with walking foot, and all able to sew 3/4 oz nylon up
to
> about 65 oz of resin impregnated dacron sailcloth or 8 layers of Sunbrella
> canvas. (If you want one of these they often are for sale used at
> www.sailrite.com "classified ads")
>
Everything I've ever read about a Thomson mini walkers says to spend the
equivalent amount of dough on a good used in-the-table industrial. Watch
the want ads, auctions etc.
penny s
JAXAshby
>equivalent amount of dough on a good used in-the-table industrial. Watch
>the want ads, auctions etc.
depends on what you want.
If you want a seriously industrial machine laid out in a commercial size table
with a high speed 3/4 hp clutch driven motor, yup.
If you want a portable (meaning only about 45 pounds or so) nearly brand new
machine, the Thompson/Sailrite is hard to beat.
For sail/canvas work I'd prefer a Pfaff 138 (an industrial machine of great
reputation) to a Pfaff 130 (a 40 some year old heavy-duty home machine of some
great reputation) or, better yet, that big Adler, but my boat (and apartment,
for that matter) is not big enough to hold a 150 to 200 pound machine, plus
table and motor.
Everything is a compromise. I felt, personally, that the nearly brand new
Sailrite (I found a virtually brand new LSZ-1 at a used price) was a better
compromise than a 40 some year old Pfaff 130.
Please do remember that I am talking about serious canvas work, as I somehow
expected the original poster (a man, and men seldom talk about sewing frilly
stuff, no matter how important and interesting that frill suff) was talking
about serious canvas work and I was talking in that regard. I could be wrong,
and I keep that in mind.
If one wants to do production type sewing, for sure the various and specialized
production sewing machines are far better suited.
FWIW, I actually considered a Singer 107-W1 or a Singer 111, each industrial
machines from long ago. Would either have been better for what I wanted to do?
Probably (each can handle 14 to 20 layers of Sunbrella), but -- as strong and
as muscular as I am -- I couldn't imagine hefting either of those machines
around inside my boat.
There are no perfect machines (sewing or otherwise) and if there were, we
couldn't begin to pay the price for them.
The world has no perfect truth. Only options and versions.
penny s
> >Everything I've ever read about a Thomson mini walkers says to spend the
> >equivalent amount of dough on a good used in-the-table industrial. Watch
> >the want ads, auctions etc.
>
> depends on what you want.
absolutely. I"m biased for a number of reasons. . I bought a cherry
condition industrial walking foot for less than a new MW; I got very
lucky. I get asked a lot about "what machine should I buy" in the outdoor
gear sewing dept. I've no personal experience with a miniwalker, just what
I've read over the years. But most people seem satisfied.
> > Please do remember that I am talking about serious canvas work, as I
somehow
> expected the original poster (a man, and men seldom talk about sewing
frilly
> stuff, no matter how important and interesting that frill suff) was
talking
> about serious canvas work and I was talking in that regard. I could be
wrong,
> and I keep that in mind.
Heh, I"m used to talking to men about sewing, for one thing I moderate the
lightweight backpacker's Make Gear forum. One might as well assume a
machine is going to be USED, and not be a decoration. For guys who want
sewing machines in boats, I can see the benefit of somewhat portable.
If portable is not a priority, then I always cast my vote for used. But then
I'm cheap too.
Hannasmom
It was sold in an industrial configuration for several years before
being available to the domestic side of Pfaff. It is tough, dependable
and even after sitting for years a little oil and a quick run will put
it to rights. I currently have 3 of these machines, one is portable
that came off a ship in Nova Scotia, 1 is in an industrial table with
1/2 hp motor, knee lift and foot pedal from a fur factory in Montreal,
and 1 in a beautiful limed oak cabinet. They are as sound as the day
they were made. I inherited mine, but have seen prices for these
desirable machines from a low of $100 to over $500.
They have a full compliment of functions and several accessories still
available from Pfaff. Making a statement that it is no good because
it is full of small parts doesn't make a lot of sense. Take apart a
modern industrial machines and there are hundreds of parts. The 130
is a very basic machine and all the parts are steel.and difficult to
find in anything less than 30 years old. Suffice to say that when the
current machines are dead and burried someone will still be sewing on
a Pfaff 130.
As for parts not being available I recently ordered parts for the
portable hand crank and a new drive belt from Pfaff Canada. There did
not seem to be a problem, unlike the 15 year old Husquvarna I am
working on. But as with any 50 year old machine in constant very
heavy use some things will start to become scarce and I do stock pile
for the future. I use my 130 for leather chaps, moccasins using
mostly full moose hides.Constructing tepees and some sail work for
friends. So far the 130 has not complained about anything I have put
through it including several laywers of welders leather.
If your reason for asking it value is for resale then post a notice at
your local sailing club if you have one, or get in touch with the
re-enactment people, upholstery people etc. You should have no
problem selling a Pfaff 130. E-Bay is mostly for collectors so if you
don't have all the "parts" then the selling price would be
considerably lower.
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Kate Dicey
as I don't like boring sewing (i.e. 25 ft felled sail seams, and the
like!), and I don't have the room. In an ideal world I'd have a
LAAAAAARGE sewing room with an industrial straight stitch and dedicated
hemming and serging stuff, button holer, and the like, and one of those
big ugly looking embroidery machines that can do a whole bolt of cloth
in one pass!
In the real world I knew I didn't have room, needed to cart machines to
classes (both teaching and taking as a student), and would use the
embroidery very little. My Husqvarnas are a compromise, but a damned
good one for what I do. I'm still looking for the perfect backup
machine: Lily goes in for a fix on Saturday, and fast sewing isn't
possible on the old Jenny (Singer 66K of 1923 vintage). And she doesn't
manage button holes well, even with the buttonhole gadgets I have. They
are wonderful gadgets (even more of a Heath Robinson effect than a
ruffler!), but they don't compare to the Lily's.
Second hand is good, wise, thrifty, Penny - not 'cheap'! ;D
Kate XXXXXX
Annie K.
>What is a Pfaff 130 worth?
Whatever someone will pay for it.
--
"An investment in life is an investment in change."
--Leo Buscaglia
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ItsJoanNotJoann
>
> I hope this goes to hannasmom. I have a question. I just received a PFAFF 130 that another had but couldn't get it to work. I oiled it and got it running. I would like to know this: Is the bobbin and shuttle thinner than other machines like the Necchi and Kenmore? If you get this, please email me at: peter...@hotmail.com. Thank you for your time.
>
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waiting for a question on Pfaff 130?
BEI Design
I didn't post in that thread, but Kate D., Penny S., Melinda M.,
did, and those were familiar names to me.
It's really a shame that the google archive does not make the
posting date more prominent (maybe red and flashing ;-D ), folks
doing a search for information can easily miss the date of a thread.
As well, google munges e-mail addresses, so even if hannasmom *were*
still hanging around, there is no way for her to contact OP (if she
reads alt.sewing using the google interface).
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Beverly
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Bobbie Sews More
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friend, now departed, had a Pfaff 130---I'm almost sure, and I think the
bobbin and shuttle might have been the same as was on the Kenmore. It seems
that she used other than Pfaff parts on her machine, but that was so long
ago I might be wrong. If you have some of the older parts, it wouldn't hurt
to try.
Barbara in SC
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Ron Anderson
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not have a shuttle it is a rotary hook machine
Ron Anderson A1 Sewing Machine
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Any suggestions on the best way to sell it would be most appreciated!
Thanks,
D
BEI Design
https://wwwr.ebay.com/p/Pfaff-130-Sewing-Machine/98980035
But packing (a very specialized process) and shipping would probably
be prohibitive. If I were in this situation, I would find a
local-to-the-machine sewing-quilting group (check churches and
senior centers) and donate it. Alternatively, Goodwill/Salvation
Army/local charity of choice?
Beverly
hub...@ccanoemail.ca
it's like CraigsList which seems more popular in the USA.
It can be advertised under your locality and item classification
to target the local buyers.
Also - some Thrift Stores will put certain items in their silent
auctions - some will issue charitable donation receipts for items
over $ 100. value ...
Good luck.
John T.
Ron Anderson
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Value is a very subjective thing. It really is not worth more than someone
will give you. It is a work horse of a machine and treated well will be
serviceable for a long time if you get $100.00 that would probably be a lot.