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Limara

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Oct 22, 2005, 3:28:39 PM10/22/05
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I am tryning to help a friend sort out an advert for his compact
flashcards he sells, Are there any machines that take the compact
flash cards other than the Janome models and do you need an adaptor to
use them?

Herb

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Oct 22, 2005, 3:43:54 PM10/22/05
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Limara wrote:

It's POSSIBLE that machines with USB ports could use a USB card reader. Someone
would have to try it for each kind of sewing machine, though.

- Herb

lasermemory

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Oct 22, 2005, 8:39:36 PM10/22/05
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"Limara" <Lim...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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Think I have seen the person on ebay ;)

A lot of them seem proprietary, trying to find out more details about
brother cards at the moment, a odd card if ever I saw one,
40 pin - SINGLE row not a dual ide connector type.


HC

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Oct 23, 2005, 4:49:50 AM10/23/05
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G'day Limara

I have two Janome embroidery machines and they accept a Compact Flash
card in a PCMCIA/CF adaptor, this then slots into the PCMCIA slot in my
notebook and is recognised as another drive. Some Janome owners with
PC's use the card reader slot in their printer/scanner/copier to read
the cards.

Hope this helps?
Bronwyn ;-)

Limara

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Oct 23, 2005, 5:24:33 AM10/23/05
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I know the Janome models that will take the cards, Also Brother
innovis 4000D, ( cant remember if you need an adaptor for that one,
and brother PR600)
I am not familiar with any of the other makes of machines just
wondered if any of the others took the card.
you are quite right he has been selling them on E bay, he is not
connected with sewing machines at all, and its amazing what rubbish
people have told him including his local sewing machine dealer who
told him you only need the pcmcia for the 300E lol..... I am just
trying to help him get his advert correct
>

G. Wayne Hines

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Oct 23, 2005, 6:14:32 AM10/23/05
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HC mentioned Janome. The MC11000, 10000/10001, 9500, 9700 and 300e all
take CF cards in a PCMCIA adapter. There is at least one model of
Kenmore machine that takes this combination, and I believe the Bernina
deco 330 and Elna 8200 do as well.

gwh

lasermemory

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Oct 23, 2005, 9:46:53 PM10/23/05
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"Limara" <Lim...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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The majority of the home embroidery industry seems rigged against the
consumer, the manufacters of most machines
have gone out of their way to use non-standard connectors etc in order to
artificially raise prices of memory cards/readers etc.

Disgraceful really, and I am disapointed that brother makes machines like
that, when most other industries can use industry standard
memory, why cant they?


Limara

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Oct 24, 2005, 6:41:22 AM10/24/05
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On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 01:46:53 +0000 (UTC), "lasermemory"
<sup...@nospam--lasermemory.com> wrote:

quote"


>The majority of the home embroidery industry seems rigged against the
>consumer, the manufacters of most machines
>have gone out of their way to use non-standard connectors etc in order to
>artificially raise prices of memory cards/readers etc.
>
>Disgraceful really, and I am disapointed that brother makes machines like
>that, when most other industries can use industry standard
>memory, why cant they?

lol because brother like to sell the pe design package , there are so
many people when they buy the brother machine they dont realise that a
package to get the designs over to the machine will in some cases cost
them more than the machine itself ( I found that out the hard way when
I bought my PE 180D )
Brother have changed that on the 4000D though, you can use different
media for that lets hope they will keep that idea for future models!
I am amazed though that some one has never managed to copy the
brothers memory card by now!

liz@spam.autopromk.freeserve.co.uk liz hall

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Oct 24, 2005, 7:11:05 AM10/24/05
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I believe my friend on his Janome 10,000 puts his .jef designs onto the
flash card and puts that direct into the sewing machine. On the Brother
Innovis 4,000d there is a direct link up like the Janome as it seems but
most people seem to have their sewing machine and computer side by side
eliminating the need for any card set-up, I seem to be in the minority but
mine will always be in different parts of the house. The Innovis also reads
folders so you can put an unlimited designs on the pen drive, more than you
would need in one go. I believe the Innovis also reads cd's so no problem
getting designs to machine on this set-up, Brother have thought of
everything. I bought and tried the Stitchlink, wireless set up and returned
it it was useless. The device uses the sewing machines internal memory for
storage and at 1.2 mg makes the pen drive seem like a dream!
Liz


lasermemory

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Oct 24, 2005, 2:17:04 PM10/24/05
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> Brother have changed that on the 4000D though, you can use different
> media for that lets hope they will keep that idea for future models!
> I am amazed though that some one has never managed to copy the
> brothers memory card by now!
>

Once I get my hands on a card, I will see if I can crack it, bound to be a
simple conversion / adapter that can be made.


Limara

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Oct 24, 2005, 3:49:28 PM10/24/05
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lol i am in minority as well although my machine and pc are in the
same room I cant have the usb lead trail accross the room you are
right about the janome 10000 the card goes in the machine in a pcmcia
adaptor, and its a lot better than having to have special software to
write the cards as well.

I know I used my cf card when I had my dealers innovis 4000 machine
here to learn, cant remember how I actually used it though, does it
have a slot for the card to go in direct, or do you need an adaptor
for it to go in the machine. I have a feeling I may have just plugged
my card reader writer direct into the usb slot.

The machine had sat here for 8 + months then my friend needed help
with this advert for the compatible machines just after it had gone
back so I didnt have it here to check.

I know all the Janome machines that will work with the cf and pcmcia
adaptor, and the PR600, just trying to find out if there are any
others he can add to the list of compatible machines.

Its interesting to know that the stitchlink isnt all its made out to
be Janome are bringing out a stitchlink with the new 11000 machine I
cant imagine why any one would want it though at an inflated price
when all they need is a cf card and pcmcia adaptor!

Limara

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Oct 24, 2005, 3:52:51 PM10/24/05
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lol good luck if you manage to crack the brother card you will have a
long list of people queing to get one from you!If you manage it on the
brother card then try a Janome card as well I know hundreds of people
with machines that only take the Janome memory cards that would love
to be able to get designs to the pc without spending Ł500 on the
software and box they need to write a blank card.

John P.. Bengi

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Oct 24, 2005, 7:34:37 PM10/24/05
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Get a wireless USB adapter for each end.

"Limara" <Lim...@nowhere.com> wrote in message

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Beto Zpravodajec

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Oct 27, 2005, 1:59:35 AM10/27/05
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My mother has a Deco 330, and have unwillingly been tasked with
determining compatability issues. Is there a size limitationm o n the
CF cards that can be used through a PCMCIA-CF adapter?

I've noticed that the Bernina Personal Design Card (Artista 200) cards
are ATA Flash Type II. Any other requirements that I should be aware
of?

I've also noticed that I can't (as of yet) read any of the Bernina
collection type design cards. Any idea(s) on their format(s)?

Thanks

HC

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Oct 27, 2005, 2:30:08 AM10/27/05
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G'day Beto

As far as I'm aware the Bernina 330 is made my Janome and similar to
their 300E.

The smaller capacity CF cards are better, eg 8Mb or 16Mb any bigger and
it takes too long for the machine to read the designs. I know with the
Janome 300E, that it only uses Emb5 folder and this will hold a maximum
of 100 designs, again this many will be much slower to read.

So, smaller is better in this instance ;-)) Who says size doesn't count?
LOL Digital camera owners often have small cards that they no longer
use, most of these came packaged with cameras and pretty useless when
taking photos (unless you want to download all the time).

Sorry, I can't help with the Bernina cards, as I own Janomes, but I'm
pretty sure they will be in .art format and as such can't be read by
Embird (preferred s/ware for machine embroiderers). Someone who is more
familiar with Bernina might be able to help with conversion programs
etc. Have you done a google search? Artista will probably be your best
bet, but again, check with someone who knows Bernina more than me.

Have you searched Yahoo or MSN groups for a Bernina 330 group? This one
for Janome 300E's might be able to help, as I know the differences
between the two machines has been discussed at times. The differences
are fairly minor.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EasyeethreeMachines/

Hope some of this helps?
Bronwyn ;-)

G. Wayne Hines

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Oct 27, 2005, 6:10:29 AM10/27/05
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On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 05:59:35 GMT, Beto Zpravodajec <he...@ican.net>
wrote:

>My mother has a Deco 330, and have unwillingly been tasked with
>determining compatability issues. Is there a size limitationm o n the
>CF cards that can be used through a PCMCIA-CF adapter?
>
>I've noticed that the Bernina Personal Design Card (Artista 200) cards
>are ATA Flash Type II. Any other requirements that I should be aware
>of?
>
>I've also noticed that I can't (as of yet) read any of the Bernina
>collection type design cards. Any idea(s) on their format(s)?

As HC mentioned, you may need Bernina software to be able to see the
designs on the cards with your computer. However, if the 330 works the
same as the Janome version, you should be able to copy designs to the
CF card and then view the designs on the sewing machine.

gwh

Limara

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Oct 27, 2005, 7:14:28 AM10/27/05
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I understood from my dealer ( janome dealer mates with a bernins
delaer) that the bernina changed that slot in the 300 machine when
they had it badged for them along with cosmetic changes and it doesnt
take the cf cards with pcmcia adaptor any more, trouble is the bernina
dealer is miles away from here and he isnt one of the best people on
pcs so his information isnt that reliable lol! I have never personally
seen the machine. they said you have to buy the bernina card and their
own writing equipment, that seems strange when being changed from the
model that takes the cf card and pcmcia adaptor though.
it would be nice to find out from a reliable source about the bernina,
I havent tried anything above 256mb cf card the janome machines
there are no issues with different size cards other than the machine
taking so long to read them the larger the capicity of card . the
larger card and the more designs on it the longer it takes to read, I
prefer 32 mb cards they read quickly, instantly on my machine and
they are really cheap now. I was buying mine from the guy selling them
on e bay, they are the perfect size for me, then I started helping him
out as to what machines can use the cf card , that led to this post
trying to find out if there are any other machines that use the cf
card

G. Wayne Hines

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Oct 28, 2005, 5:35:29 AM10/28/05
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On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 12:14:28 +0100, Limara <Lim...@nowhere.com> wrote:

>I understood from my dealer ( janome dealer mates with a bernins
>delaer) that the bernina changed that slot in the 300 machine when
>they had it badged for them along with cosmetic changes and it doesnt
>take the cf cards with pcmcia adaptor any more, trouble is the bernina
>dealer is miles away from here and he isnt one of the best people on
>pcs so his information isnt that reliable lol! I have never personally
>seen the machine. they said you have to buy the bernina card and their
>own writing equipment, that seems strange when being changed from the
>model that takes the cf card and pcmcia adaptor though.

That would make sense from Bernina's point of view because they would
be able to sell existing design cards to people who buy the 330, and
those people would have to go to Bernina for accessories they would
need to be able to buy designs and get them to the machine.

gwh

HC

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Oct 28, 2005, 3:32:39 AM10/28/05
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G'day Limara

Personally I prefer 16Mb CF cards for both of my Janomes, they read much
quicker and my notebook is only about 2 metres from the sewing table
anyway.

Have you tried emailing Bernina with your enquiry? Other than that, do
a search for Bernina groups on both MSN and Yahoo.

Bronwyn ;-)

Not Gimpy Anymore

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Oct 28, 2005, 5:14:18 PM10/28/05
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"HC" <IHat...@home.com> wrote in message
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> G'day Beto
>

(snippity snip)


> The smaller capacity CF cards are better, eg 8Mb or 16Mb any bigger and it
> takes too long for the machine to read the designs. I know with the
> Janome 300E, that it only uses Emb5 folder and this will hold a maximum of
> 100 designs, again this many will be much slower to read.
>
> So, smaller is better in this instance ;-)) Who says size doesn't count?
> LOL Digital camera owners often have small cards that they no longer use,
> most of these came packaged with cameras and pretty useless when taking
> photos (unless you want to download all the time).
>

So, what happens when there is no longer a digital camera market for
smaller cards??? Can you imagine the smaller cards will still be
available???
Is this interface doomed to obsolescence, like so many others (any Digital
camera card, for example..)? The camera market is still maturing, and as it
does, memory cards are climbing in size - nobody wants to bother with less
than 128 Meg today, and next year it will likely be 256. 1 Gig cards are
"the norm" now.....

Hint - if at all possible I think we should try to "lobby" the entire
emb.
industry to move to a standard interface like USB jump drives... and USB
direct links to a PC. At least USB drives are more general purpose, and
*may*
continue to be available in smaller capacities..... I've been trying to do
some
lobbying like this on my own, but the "ears" do seem to be awfully deaf.....
The least we can do is threaten to vote with our pocketbooks. But that's
only
minimally effective because most dealers seem too dense to know if they've
lost a sale or not...

(OK, OK, I'll get off my soapbox now.)

Regards,
NGA


HC

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Oct 29, 2005, 12:20:53 AM10/29/05
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The new Janome 11000 released recently has the options you've mentioned,
so some manufacturers are up to speed and don't need 'lobbying'. My
Janomes will link to my computer via USB or RS232, or I can use Janome's
Stitchlink (WiFi) so there are other options beside CF cards.

I don't have a CF crystal ball, but have stocked up on small capacity CF
cards. 1Gb cards are 'old hat' now for camera usage, I'm looking at
buying an 8Gb and currently using a 2Gb. My PDA uses CF and SD cards so
I have a collection for different uses.

Have fun with your lobbying!! ;-))

G. Wayne Hines

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Oct 29, 2005, 5:54:08 AM10/29/05
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On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:20:53 +1000, HC <IHat...@home.com> wrote:

>The new Janome 11000 released recently has the options you've mentioned,
>so some manufacturers are up to speed and don't need 'lobbying'. My
>Janomes will link to my computer via USB or RS232, or I can use Janome's
>Stitchlink (WiFi) so there are other options beside CF cards.

And both the 11000 and the HV Designer SE permit you to connect a USB
CD drive directly to the machine. I think this is a better arrangement
than having the CD drive on/in the machine.

gwh

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