Tajima Format\Conversion
Happy
Hello,
I am a newbie to this and was wondering if I may get some help on the
Tajima file format? Is it the standard for digitizing in the embroidery
industry? What programs are out there that would take a images say from
PhotoShop and convert it to the Tajima format?
Thanks for any help.
Herb
There is no industry standard. Almost every manufacturer uses
its own format. Happily, there are programs available that will
convert between most of them, and many of the embroidery
programs can input and output more than one design format.
A partial list can be found at
http://www.secretsof.com/embroiderytips/embroideryhelp/formats.htm
Creating an embroidery design file from a computer image
requires a Digitizing program. These come in many flavors and
levels of complexity. Some work from raster graphics (such as
.PCX, .BMP, .GIF, .JPG or TIF files), while others work from
vector graphics (such as .AI, .CDR, .DFX, or .EPS). None that I
know of will accept the native Photoshop format (.psd); you
would have to save the file in one of the other formats.
For most home users, Tajima's .dst format is very annoying,
because it does not support a color palette, but only when the
thread colors should be changed.
- Herb
Gym Bob
do you have any other information about colours and pallettes. I have a lot
of .hus designs (from here) that have a terrible colours and obviously there
is a colour translation problem when format switched somehow.
In particulaR, OWNING A MACHINE THAT USES dst FORMATS i WOULD IKE TO KNOW
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE REPRESENTATION STYLE OF dst VS SAY hus OR pes
...geeeessh sorry about the inverse caps...LOL
"Herb" <He...@the.desk> wrote in message news:3D58153A...@the.desk...
Herb
Any design that has passed through any of the formats that don't
maintain a palette will have "terrible colors". That is, if a
.pes file was converted to .hus it would have reasonably
accurate colors; if, however, it was converted to .dst and then
to .hus, it would lose all of its specific color info.
The commercial formats such as .dst have a very simple pallette;
color 1, 2, 3, etc. In the design file, it always starts with
color 1, and then changes to color 2 at the first color change
flag. I'm not sure whether it can go BACK to color 1 (I would
assume it could). Note that nowhere does it maintain the
information as to whether each color 1 is black, white, or
chartreuse. The assumption is that in commercial use, the
colors will be picked by the operator based on the design charts
that show suggested colors and color stops.
This is why when you convert from .dst to .hus, for example, you
get a default palette, where the first color is always black,
and so on. If you want to see the design more or less as it
will stitch out, you have to edit the colors in your
customization program.
Formats such as .pes and .hus, on the other hand, assign codes
to specific colors (the palette). So a design might read
something like this: Start Color 7; stitch, stitch stitch,
Change to Color 3; stitch, stitch stitch, etc. The embroidery
programs AND conversion programs recognize these codes, and
know, for instance that .hus color 7 is Pale Yellow, 3 is Dark
Gray, or whatever, and these correspond to .pes colors 5 Bright
Yellow and 9 Gun Metal Gray (these are NOT what the codes really
are, of course)
The conversion programs also recognize the color palettes for
each of the formats; so when you convert a .pes file to .hus,
although you won't get identical colors, you'll get something
fairly close.
Guess that was a big nutshell ...
- Herb
Gym Bob
are always attached to a colour card for the job on that machine.
Brings to mind then I wonder how the ULT2002D take DST files? Need to
experiment more.
Thanx again
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Brenden
Tajima DST can almost be called the industries most popular stitch format,
professional embroidery wise anyway.
Many digitizers choose to send their designs to their customers in DST
format as most machines will accept them and most design systems will open
them.
Are they perfect? No way. In fact, there are many problems such as
remembering colors (as noted by Herb), stitch settings and effects (if any
used) and other beaut settings that digitizing programs remember.
For example, stitch files have a 0.1 stitch position resolution so in fact
their quality is not perfect.
One major problem with a DST is if you create a large object with seeding
and open it later, you may find that the object that you creted as one will
now split into many objects. Why? Because Tajima DST files are pretty
'dumb'. They don't remember a great deal as mentioned above and this
includes objects.
I use Wilcom and they retain all these settings and more. In fact even
stitch quality is perfect as the Wilcom .EMB object and stitch combined file
(all in the one .EMB file) does not have the 0.1 stitch resolution like all
other stitch files. Colors, object outlines and stitches in ONE file (not
two like all other applications), underlay settings, pull compensation, you
name it, Wilcom remembers. Call it the elephant of embroidery software :)
Hope this helps. Any q's feel free to ask this group. I am fairly new to it
too. Just post it here for all the read.
Take care.
Brenden
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Kirt Bowman
>
> For example, stitch files have a 0.1 stitch position resolution so in fact
> their quality is not perfect.
Brenden even Wilcom will alter the file when converting to dst or any format
each machine language has tolerences based on the pantogram of that
particlular machine, hence when a design is saved to dst the software rounds
off the closest point, emb is the native language for wilcom and will always
look perfect because it hasn't become a stitch yet, you can test this open a
emb save it as a dst reopen in wilcom and you will notice that the design
has degraded a little on screen. In real life this small distortion is
usually not noticeable unless you continue to convert over and over again.
Kirt Bowman
2 time Silver Medallist 2002 Digitizing Olympics
Over 10,000 designs produced
ki...@bcsdigitizing.com
Brenden
Of course you are right. That is the entire point of using a .EMB file
compared to a stitch file. Imagine having constant changes made to your
designs as you open and save and open and save when the files snap to a 0.1
accuracy.
By using Wilcom's .EMB file for your designing you totally eliminate this
problem while designing and only encounter the minor changes (basically
unnoticable) when stitching or converting to a stitch file as you said.
Many other companies who use stitch files as a part of their designing (like
Pulse for example) run into this problem all the time as you are designing
not just stitching to a machine.
Brenden
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Also, wilcom truesizer software converts one embroidery file to another one but not from the picture.
Instead of that, it requires a manual digitizing process which takes time + effort + techniques.
If you want to do it yourself then you have to get:
Embroidery digitizing software (like wilcom or pulse which are expensive) Essential skills of machine embroidery digitizing (takes time to learn) And then you will be able to convert a picture to PES or DST format. It’s far better to get work done from an embroidery digitizer.
Recently I have used these guys https://zeedigitizing.com which provides an awesome class result.