amazing box or magic box ???
tajba
First I need to convert from Jef to Sew from the PC. I also would like to
download from internet to my Janome 8000. Anyone had any experience with
this situation?
stranger
is sold by AD. Just look for the best buy. IF the Janome 8000 is
supported by these boxes (find out), then download files from the
internet to your hard drive, then load onto the card in The Box and
put the card in your Janome.
Lynne
convert from PCS to PES however, because it will not save to the computer
to resize, I could not convert the designs. The sewing area is slightly
larger on the Pfaff than it is on the Brother. If I had known about not
being able to save to computer I would have bought the pes2card3 instead.
Lynne
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tajba
it etc. thanks
"amante cavallo" <karen@baldwinsound_delete_this.com> wrote in message
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> I recommend the Ultimate box. Cheeper and works better in my
> opinions. Good Luck!On Tue, 07 Jan 2003 02:43:16 GMT, "tajba"
tajba
also heard of the converter from Buzz Tools.
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Alex Goover
cards only.
Other than that it's a great product made by Vikant
http://vikant-emb.com/UltimateBox.htm
"tajba" wrote...
> amante cavallo, I never heard of the Ultimate box, please tell me who
makes
> it etc. thanks
> "amante cavallo" wrote...
Elizabeth Hall
machine. I did my research and I thought the only one to support Janome was
the pes2-3 card reader writer box. You can download and upload on this and
it reads the Janome cards and uses card as blanks in many cases. It seemed a
superb product to me but then Brother V5 came out and I did not want 2 boxes
so I did not buy one. I then sold Janome machine anyway as it was so
restricting on the embroidery side. I have a friend who uses the pes2-3 all
the time and says its brilliant. She sent her Amazing Box back after 2
days. If I needed multiple formats I would buy the pes2-3 personally.
Liz
tajba
hook up to my pc. What I need to do as well as download is reformat Jeff to
Sew. Can this do that as well? I do appreciate your input. Thanks
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Lynne
Here is the link for pes2card3 and it may answer some of your questions.
The main thing with this is that you can save the designs on your computer
from any card you purchase, then resize, add lettering or whatever your
digitizing program allows. Embird Plus is the best for resizing and adding
letters especially if you don't want to spend a fortune. It also converts
formats but you would be better to check out their website. Also note on
Embird site just under Alphabets it shows "PES" written in blue. Click on
that and that will take you to pes2card3 where you will find out more. You
can also download and trial Embird and they have tutorials but I figured out
most myself.
www.embird.com
tajba
out your :nineheitling and it read exactly the same as the embird site, with
one exception, according to embird it writes for Janome 8000, but your site
said "no(t yet)". Which is right? I am trying to email embird now. Thanks
for the info
Marynews:3e1d4208$1...@usenet.per.paradox.net.au...
Marina Stock
I love to bits. I would love to upgrade to the 10000 but funds do not
permit. I have dusted off my Amazing Box since I got a PC for Christmas and
I have downloaded designs from the internet and resized with a free trial of
Embird. I will be buying this as soon as I get paid! The 8000 has a very
small field to work in but I can live with that. I have probably re-invented
the wheel here, but I am taking things slowly and who knows what will
happen! Marina in Cardiff
Paula
I just bought the Janome Memory Craft 5700...would this Amazing Box
work with that model as well? I was thinking of buying the Customizer
2000 but the dealer says it's around $750.00. If the Amazing Box would
do the about the same thing, that would be a much better buy.
Paula Ross
tajba
as I get Pes2Card3, but I also found out something else that you cannot
rewrite on Janome 8000 cards, is this true? would appreciate an answere
before I go thru with all of this. thanks
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Marina Stock
rewritable card for you to download your own designs.
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tajba
need to get buzz tool converter from jeff to sew and from what I understand
amazing and magic boxes are not so amazing and magic, they do have problems
so now I am dealing with pes2Card3. And I would like to know if one can
write on janome 8000's cards. Thanks, any help out there.news:pfyV9.88$0h.65044@newsfep2-gui...
AliceW
Amazing Box. I have a Pfaff 7570 that I have used for embroidery, but I
just purchased a BabyLock espree that I can dedicate to embroidery and use
the Pfaff for my quilting. I have several cards for the Pfaff that have
lots of nice designs. I also have the Pfaff PC-Designer software so I can
download designs from the net and store them on my Pfaff blank card.
Now, I want the Amazing Box so I can use my Pfaff card as well as the
BabyLock card. I have been told slot 2 is the Pfaff slot. I am not going
to get into resizing and all that just yet. Do I still need something like
Buzz Tools or Embird?
TIA
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Alice in NJ
"Royal Cybrarian"
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: I guess some folks are confused about the various boxes. I can explain
: about the Amazing Box as have used it. It's my understanding the
: others work on the same principles, but there are some technical
: differences.
:
: On the Amazing Box, there are 4 slots. Each slot represents a
: particular embroidery card. The reason for the different slots is that
: not all cards are designed the same, and so require different physical
: configurations in order to be read from and written to. An analogy
: would be the different endings on computer cables, such as the
: parallel cable (25 pin) or the serial cable (9 pin). The manufacturers
: have taken standard memory, such as compact flash memory, and put it
: in a small plastic container and wired it up with pins on the outside.
: The box's different slots accomodate the different manufacturers
: designs.
:
: The Amazing Box comes with software which allows you to read a design
: from your computer's hard drive (regardless of how it got there), CD,
: or purchased designs on memory cards (when put in the correct slot of
: the box) and write it to a card with the format you require for your
: machine. So, if you download a design from the 'net and it's in JEF or
: SEW format and you need PES, the Amazing Box will convert it as it
: writes to your blank memory card (in the correct slot, of course).
:
: The Amazing Box does NOT resize or alter the design. If you attempt to
: write a design that won't work on your machine, the software
: complains. Supposedly it splits the design for you, but I never
: attempted this to try it out.
:
: The Amazing Box states it is limited to 6 designs being written to any
: memory card. That is a software limitation and not a limitation of the
: hardware. It's a shame the software was written to write until all
: memory was used on the card - like copying to a floppy or hard drive
: -- but it doesn't work that way.
:
: The PES cards use larger memory cards and do work that way, letting
: you use all the available memory.
:
: The Ultimate Box must be purchased for a particular machine and then
: doesn't work with other formats.
:
: All the boxes (I believe) are now available in both serial and USB
: formats. If your computer supports it, get USB. The serial one is very
: slow and aggravating, insisting on "formatting" the memory card before
: you write each time (another uncessary software device).
:
: As a retired programmer I can tell you they are all rip-off's. Old
: technology is being used and packaged in such a way as to make us all
: captive audiances and force our costs up.
:
: Look for the cheapest you can buy of whatever flavor you want.
:
:
tajba
and I wanted to convert from Jef to Sew etc. The only thing I found that
will do the job for me was to buy the pes2Card3, buy a blank card (you
cannot rewrite on Janome cards, but you can if you have some other kind of
machine), then buy embird to resize and split etc. Now I am waiting for
this equipment, hoping it will work.
Lynne
Do not buy the Amazing Box (or Magic Box)! I have a Pfaff 7570 and bought a
Brother Pooh Bear machine so it is set up all the time for embroidery.
Babylock uses the same card as Brother and is interchangable. The problem I
had was the pfaff sewing area is 20% bigger than the brother so when I tried
to write the pfaff card to the brother card it couldn't do it. Because
Amazing Box software does not resize the design I wasted my money. You
would be better off with the pes2card3 as this will allow you to read off
the pfaff card into your computer, resize with Embird if you have it, then
write to the Babylock card.
Cheers...Lynne
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AliceW
before.
--
Alice in NJ
"Royal Cybrarian"
http://www.ourcyberfamily.us/
http://www.ourcyberfamily.us/fii2003.htm
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: Alice,
:
:
Elizabeth Hall
Brother I would only buy the pes2-3 card for its flexibility.
I faced this dilema and bought another Brother machine instead and sold the
Janome.
Liz
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>
>As a retired programmer I can tell you they are all rip-off's. Old
>technology is being used and packaged in such a way as to make us all
>captive audiances and force our costs up.
>
>Look for the cheapest you can buy of whatever flavor you want.
>
Man you are not kidding they are a SERIOUS rip-off! $10 worth of parts coupled
with 15 year old technology and to top it off an amateurish software/driver
design. I can't believe the things sell for more than $25. My wife just picked
up a pes2 because it was the 'cheapest' (if you call being priced 10 times more
than what it is worth_ cheap) out there. What a piece of crap. It takes 20
minutes to read a 512K memory card. Unbelievable. My camera card reader (which
cost $40) reads 128MEG card in about 5 seconds.
IMO_ Keep your money. These guys are screwing the public with these prices.
Jeffrey Dukes
Of course there is a lot of upfront costs, marketing and support and a
somewhat limited market compared to the market for your camera. To have an
ROI things cost what they cost. Seen any Chinese rip-off? Not even enough
market for them.
Alex Goover
what you're talking about
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no....@no.junk.net
Since you apparently don't how to post to a news group I'll fix your post for
you.
So I suppose you know what you are talking about? Dude, I've been a EE for over
20 year and designed and tested more memory interfaces than you have probably
ever even heard of. I can tell you that there is about $20 worth of 1980's
technology in those boxes. There is no rocket science in reading data from a
memory chip. Is it a serial device? Parallel? Is the card timing slow or is the
data transfer the problem? Is it flash or eeprom? Since you know so much about
it why not enlighten me with the specifics of the memory device and why you
think reading it is so difficult.
SassyZone
wanted or necessary.
Sassy
Alex Goover
years?
let me guess - zero. surprise! surprise! I have done more than that.
you are in no position to tell me how they work or how much should they sell
for.
because you still have NO CLUE
in your original posting you've made 3 rather meaningless statements I'd
like to address:
1. pes2card box technology is old
2. pes2card box is severely overpriced
3. pes2card box reads data over 60,000 times slower than 'your camera card
reader box'
1. speaking of 'technology age', it just doesn't make any economic sense for
any third party
to desing a box using more recent technology than original card itself. the
original card would
be bottleneck anyway.
2. obviously you neither (I mean besides EE) have any clue about economics.
bottom line -
it sells. tell you more - it gets backordered. if you want to discuss this
issue further - just
try to design, manufacture and sell your own box. then we'll talk.
3. it's just IRRELEVANT. and your attempt to comapre these technologies is
at least laughable
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<goo...@vernonhills.REMOVE.info>, who after all these years still doesn't know
You're correct on one point. I have never designed a embroidery card reader. No,
I've spent my design hours working on aviation and transportation electronics
where lives are on the line and the price target for memory card interface would
be a two digit number. Probably with the first digit being a one.
If I'm clueless then please_ oh worker of miracles_ explain to us what is so
challenging about these mysterious cards.
For someone who claims to know all there is to know about these reader you
certainly haven't answered many questions. I have criticized the price, quality
and function of an inanimate object. You have engaged in a character assault but
have yet to defend your position with any facts.
So tell me. What type of memory device is in the card? Is it directly accessed
with an address and data buss or is there some special access circuits that
limit the transaction speed? What's the address setup time and data valid delay?
150ns? 300ns? 500ns? Is it serially accessed data? Is it flash? Is it 64Kx8? Can
you answer any questions?
Alex Goover
before you called a result of someone else's work 'a piece of crap'
I would've been happy to answer your quiestions and educate you a little.
but now if you still want the answers you'd have to do your own homework
just open a card - you'll find all the answers there.
also I never claimed that there was anything challenging or mysterious about
reading and writing embroidery cards. my point is that there is a reason
why the product does what it does and sells for what it sells. and there are
only two civilized ways to disagree the situation - as a consumer you could
choose not to buy the product (or to return it after being unsatisfied with
the performance) or as a manufacturer you could design better product and
sell it for less. you're doing neither - so please don't tell other people
how
they should run their business.
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Eric McDaniel
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I think the original poster's complaint is more appropriately directed at
Brother and other embroidery machine manufacturers. They could have
designed their machines to accept more common memory card formats (like CF
or PCCard), but then they wouldn't have had a captive market for their own
overpriced memory cards and readers.
I agree that the makers of the Amazing Box and similar 3rd-party products
are charging what they must to recoup their investment and make a modest
profit, given the limited market size.
g. williams
most people on the planet don't even know what the format MEANS let alone
the speed or other technical items you mention... sewing is just that
sewing, guys that sew want something that women will not give up... this is
our water sport ... stay home!
g
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Fred
I have to agree with the point that the manufacturers of embroidery and
sewing machines tend to be a bit relaxed when it comes to: 1) keeping up
with technology, 2) competitive pricing and 3) offering their customers a
fair shake for the $$ spent. I was flamed something terrible when I
expressed this opinion on a sewing newsgroup a few months ago. It almost
seemed like the audience wanted to *defend* manufacturers who make them pay
seven grand for a TOL sewing machine with ancient technology, apparently
designed to keep the market captive and the prices high. I would have
thought we would all have good reasons to want prices lower and technologies
higher, but based on the flaming I got, I was very wrong. Still don't
understand why the (mostly female) market for these machines is so zealous
in defending practices that take clear advantage of them...
Fred
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Pat
audience is captive, and there is no need to get way ahead of the
competition.............Sad.
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