Re: Octoberman Sequence Posted on Torrent!
whi...@dodgeit.com
In the Seduction community, there are certain Neuro-Linguistic
Programming Patterns which are said to be "Forbidden". These patterns
have been developed by the major students and teachers of the Speed
Seduction school, and are vehemently protected from the public eye by
those who know them. This is because the inherent manipulative and
insidious nature of these patterns make them, according to these
'Gurus', morally unacceptable as public knowledge.
The 'October Man Sequence' is one of the most sought after of these
patterns.
Originally developed by seductionists In10se and Swinggcat, the October
Man Sequence is so sought after because it is said to be the single
most powerful NLP routine made for use in seduction, and, one could
argue, because of the fact that it is touted as a big, bad 'forbidden'
secret, known only to the best of the best.
The usefulness and functionality of the sequence sparks heated debate
within the community, and this could be for a few reasons.
Firstly, many are sceptical as to whether any NLP 'pattern' could
create the results proponents of this particular sequence claim to. It
has been touted as achieving "15 minute lays", insinuating that users
of this pattern have gone from meet to intercourse within 15 minutes.
Whether one pattern could achieve this sort of result is debatable.
Secondly, many of the current generation Pick Up Artist's were
introduced to the community through Neil Strauss's book The Game, which
presents an unfavourable view of NLP and Speed Seduction. This results
in many of the current day seductionists being wary of NLP patterns,
and automatically dismissive of Speed Seduction teachings.
There is much debate from among who don't possess this pattern as to
what the pattern actually accomplishes. Some suggest that it installs
in the target an unconscious compulsion which anchors every thought
outside of the PUA with pain, and every thought involving the PUA to
pleasure.
Others stipulate that it simply installs an anchor for good feelings
when the PUA pulls the target in, and bad feelings when the PUA pushes
the target away.
However most PUA's will not learn this particular technique, but more
techniques with even greater claimed power could easily be created by
someone with the will and time to absorb NLP information from other
sources, to equip them with the information needed to make their own
patterns.
These sorts of "instant control" techniques, though, usually appeal to
those wanting a quick fix to their perceived shortcomings, and those
who desire an unhealthy appetite for control of others.
While not verified by either in10se or Swinggcat, the October Man
Sequence is said to consist of the following three patterns:
'The Hospital Pattern'. This pattern serves to fractionate the subject
from intense feelings of pain to pleasure, and swing the subjects
emotions like a pendulum. The pain is anchored to something away from
the PUA, while pleasure is anchored directly to the PUA. This technique
not only emotionally distorts the subject into a state of feeling
disoriented with the outside world, but also creates a feeling of
safety within the PUA's presence, building a disorienting
semi-dependency.
'The Gemini Pattern'. This pattern is designed to create two
subconcious identities in the subject. One being the socially adhering,
conservative identity, the other being the sexually free, socially
uninhibited identity. Once these two identities are built, the desired
identity is brought out of the subject, replacing the identity not
desired (by the PUA) as the major source of personal direction for the
subject.
'The Rising Sun Pattern'. This pattern installs the idea of a 'shadow'
within the subject, which harbours all of the subjects natural (read -
sexual) desires and fanatasies. Once the concept of the shadow has been
installed, the concept is enlarged, until the idea becomes tangible and
real to the subject. The PUA will then guide the subject into stepping
'into' the shadow, and assume its dominance.
These three patterns serve to not only anchor a multitude of desirable
feelings to the PUA, but fractionates these with the painful and
undesirable feelings anchored outside of the PUA. It then builds a new
sexual identity within the subject, and allows this identity to gain
dominance. The effect is then reinforced with a post-hypnotic guiding
of the subject into the concept of a 'shadow' which holds all the
subjects repressed desires and fantasies, inducing the subject to act
with greater sexual recklessness.
The patterns themselves should generally not be posted verbatim for
mass consumption. Those with a found understanding of Neuro Linguistic
Programming would be able to create patterns using the guide above, but
those without a thourough understanding of NLP may misuse the patterns
if they were posted word-for-word.
Although, the counter-argument to this being, those without a thorough
knowledge of NLP would likely not be able to perform these sorts of
patterns as proficiently as needed to induce the sorts of changes aimed
for within the subject.
Alex wrote:
> in article pMRkh.4557$w91....@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net, Bornnatural
> at m...@asf.com wrote on 12/28/06 10:53 AM:
>
> >
> > "dman" <dm...@mytrashmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1167320491....@a3g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> >>
> >> Now Im Confused wrote:
> >>> "dman" <dm...@mytrashmail.com> writes:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Primarily due to failing to cite sources, and the other major reason
> >>>> being the general strong anti seduction community bias that runs
> >>>> throughout wikipedia.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> I wonder why they are so anti-sedution?
> >>>
> >>
> >> For the same reasons the world at large is anti-seduction. Mainly
> >> because it can't fit inside their world view,.
> >>
> >
> > Most people consider seduction methods to be something on the back of a
> > crackerjack box. This is one of many reasons why it will NEVER be game over.
> > Ray does not understand this, or its just his hate for guys that use it and
> > get laid by 10's. Wonder why he doesn't learn the methods?
> >
> >
>
> Because he's incapable of learning anything new.
dman
Yup, exactly as I'm keeping on a userpage on wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mathmo/October_man_sequence
Though if it was to be put back into the mainspace it would be speedy
deleted, one day I'll work on it to bring it up the standard of an
acceptable article.
You a fan of this girl?
blizz...@gmail.com
I don't agree with this, anyone could tell this and with some NLP
develop something. It sounds too commercial. ;-)
I am still searching for the initial roots... :-)
Blizz...
dman
You don't know who invented the october man sequence?
Well that is one of the reasons the article was deleted, it didn't cite
sources. Such as a reference for who did invent it.
If anybody know more about it I'd like to know, then I can include it
into my draft of the article.