Ray Gordon
Odious
Women Prefer ME wrote:
>
> Some Ditz Writes:
>
> I know I never post here, and I probably never will again. But you guys
> aren't
> the only ones Ray harasses and I'm sure some of you are aware of it and
> some of
> you aren't (I see a few names that I recognize).
>
> <------Those are your lies....
>
> Note: When Ray harasses you guys, at least he is harassing adults. When
> he
> harasses us, he is harassing a newsgroup that has children and young
> adults
> reading it.
>
> <------You're the one coming here and harassing me....
>
Here, meaning alt.seduction.fast where you do nothing but lie and spam.
Nobody believes you ray. We all know this is a very accurate description
of your behavior.
> For Ray, it's not about seduction. It's about power. Dominating women.
> Sure
> it's a turn on for men, but when they are children/teenagers, it is
> illegal,
> and disturbing. He sits all day long in the AOL Gymnast Chat trying to
> track
> down information on young gymnast Dominique Moceanu, his biggest
> obsession.
> It's impossible to have a conversation with him about ANYTHING (the
> weather,
> football, mashed potatoes) without him bringing her up. He claims there
> is a
> "Gymnastics Mafia" after him, trying to kill him and his "credibility".
>
> <---------I was investigating a story of child abuse that you and your
> friends don't want getting out. USAG is full of child abusers, and your
> function has been to attempt to discredit me.
Every time a group of people becomes aware of ray's behavior, he suddenly
starts making up these huge conspiracies that are out to get him. Over
here, when people point out that he's a lying moron, it is suddenly a
huge organized crime syndicate that is working for ross to crush ray's
earth shaking book. When he does it in alt.sports.gymnastics, there is
a gym Mafia that is trying to keep ray from exposing child abuse.
Does anybody notice a theme?? Two issues are prevalent, ray's projection
of abuse issues and his trying to make himself out as the victim of
organized crime...mafia, etc.
> You conveniently ignore
> the harassment from your friends, and the gymn mafia's existence is
> self-evident, as is its public harassment of me.
>
> Facts:
>
> Ray has threatened to
> a) slash my face to "tiny bits and pieces".
>
> <----Never. If I had, I'd have been prosecuted. I have no criminal
> record.
>
SOme of these threats can be seen in the RAYFAQ...the actually posts are
archived complete with header info.
> b) bash in my skull with a baseball bat.
>
> <----Again, never, though a gymn mafia founding member (Dave) has made
> public death threats against me.
>
This one is in the rayfaq. If anybody wants a copy, e-mail me.
> c) inject me with HIV+ blood.
>
> <----Again, never. Doctored IMs aren't evidence either.
>
Speaking of IM's, coward......did you write this:
NC17 Hypno: You are so sad. Complaint will be filed against you in about
a week
NC17 Hypno: Nothing you can do to stop it either
> d) do me "OJ style". and many more.
>
> <----Again, never. Your friends have made the threats against me, and
> you have told one lie about me after another in an attempt to discredit
> me. My post about Dominique's abuses a year before she ran away from
> home established my credibility, just as your group's repeated denials
> destroy yours.
>
You claim these are lies, but I have documented proof of several of
them. Anybody who wants to see it can e-mail me.
> At the time when he did this, I was 17 years old.
>
> <------You are lying.
>
Clearly this demonstrates ray's pedophile behavior. Telling a 17 year
old girl he was going to "do her OJ style." Ray claims it is a lie, but
we've all seen how often he posts about OJ. OJ references are clearly a
primary limb of his vernacular.
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Martin Osterman
heard, I can draw these conclusions:
1) Ray, whoever you are, get some MENTAL HELP. There is no one after you,
save the people you have upset in this news group and others.
2) Any discussion about child abuse in gyms should be discussed in the
alt.sports.gymnastics group, not the alt.seduction.fast group. Your discussion
has NOTHING to do with the group.
3) Ray, if anyone were out to discredit you, it would have already happened.
Right now, you have no case at all, so there is no chance you can be discredited.
4) The harassment on this page has gone on enough. I am a 15 year old who is
"interested" in seduction, to a point, not interested in harassment of any kind.
The threats I have seen on this page should be taken before the Federal Court
system, because you have people feeling threatened right now.
5) Ray--show me your story--I'll be able to prove it true or false. However,
unless you show people it, they will believe you have no story at all.
Okay guys, I've expressed myself enough right now. I have two un-answered posts
that I am waiting to be answered, please guys, answer them if possible. Second,
I would look into having Ray thrown off the server--this behavior is criminal,
not to mention paranoid.
Thank You for listening.
Martin Osterman
Captain Chaos
Martin Osterman wrote:
> Okay--I may be fairly new to the alt.seduction.fast group, but from what I have
> heard, I can draw these conclusions:
>
> 1) Ray, whoever you are, get some MENTAL HELP. There is no one after you,
> save the people you have upset in this news group and others.
<snipped>
Don't pay any attention to him. He is here to get attention and I have not seen him
contribute anything that I felt is usefull yet.
<snipped>
>
>
> 5) Ray--show me your story--I'll be able to prove it true or false. However,
> unless you show people it, they will believe you have no story at all.
From what I gather he is a troll dispensing seduction advice which does not even work
for him, or at least I have seen no evidence of it.
>
>
> Okay guys, I've expressed myself enough right now. I have two un-answered posts
> that I am waiting to be answered, please guys, answer them if possible. Second,
> I would look into having Ray thrown off the server--this behavior is criminal,
> not to mention paranoid.
Un-answered posts.......? Dude you had several responses................Check out the
site links the guys here have, Maniac, Formhandle, Odius and several others. Read up
on everything you can, there is lots of info out there, provided you look for it.
Da Captain
>
>
> Thank You for listening.
>
> Martin Osterman
>
>
Martin Osterman
anyone else had this happen to them, yet? If so, or not, please contact me ASAP. I would
appreciate it.
Martin Osterman
Captain Chaos wrote:
> Martin Osterman wrote:
>
> > Okay--I may be fairly new to the alt.seduction.fast group, but from what I have
> > heard, I can draw these conclusions:
> >
> > 1) Ray, whoever you are, get some MENTAL HELP. There is no one after you,
> > save the people you have upset in this news group and others.
>
> <snipped>
>
> Don't pay any attention to him. He is here to get attention and I have not seen him
> contribute anything that I felt is usefull yet.
>
> <snipped>
>
> >
> >
> > 5) Ray--show me your story--I'll be able to prove it true or false. However,
> > unless you show people it, they will believe you have no story at all.
>
> From what I gather he is a troll dispensing seduction advice which does not even work
> for him, or at least I have seen no evidence of it.
>
> >
> >
> > Okay guys, I've expressed myself enough right now. I have two un-answered posts
> > that I am waiting to be answered, please guys, answer them if possible. Second,
> > I would look into having Ray thrown off the server--this behavior is criminal,
> > not to mention paranoid.
>
> Un-answered posts.......? Dude you had several responses................Check out the
> site links the guys here have, Maniac, Formhandle, Odius and several others. Read up
> on everything you can, there is lots of info out there, provided you look for it.
>
> Da Captain
>
> >
> >
> > Thank You for listening.
> >
> > Martin Osterman
> >
> >
Odious
Martin Osterman wrote:
>
> I just recieved a letter from him to my ISP claiming libel, abuse, and harassment. Has
> anyone else had this happen to them, yet? If so, or not, please contact me ASAP. I would
> appreciate it.
>
> Martin Osterman
Oh that's ray's standard behavior. He will spew threats at you ISP about
law suits and this and that. Usually they will ignore it, but sometimes
they buy it and will drop accounts simply to avoid the whole mess.
You need to tell your ISP that this guy has done this to multiple ISPs
and web hosts to try to attack and harass people. Tell them that ray is
a prolific spamer, and all they have to do is do a dejanews search for
ray gordon or for (www.cybersheet.com) to see this. Let them know he
threatens to sue anybody who publicly disagrees with him. He's
threatened to sue dejanews for archiving posts that say mean things about
him.
He is a bipolar psychotic who sufferes from paranoid delusions.
However, you need to request a hardcopy of that complaint letter from
your ISP and inform them this is a malicious false report.