Roy tries to critique Jack... And falls on his face.
John C. Ryan, Jr.
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>
> <-----The internet is an EXCELLENT screening tool. I like chatting on
> it because I can work simultaneously.
>
READ BETWEEN THE LINES: I can't get girls any other way, so I lie to
them online, and that's the best I can do.
>
> The work also creates a lot of unexpected pauses where she feels
> ignored and tries harder to get my attention. You can avoid a lot of
> problems with proper internet screening, as I proved with Michelle
> (despite offers of guaranteed sex almost from day one, I refused to
> take her up on it until I knew what she was about, and once I learned,
> did not bother with her, saving myself a lot of offline heartache).
>
Is this the same "Michelle" that you SCREENED online, and only later had
it proven to you that she never had a bit of interest? Is this the same
one that you claimed professed undying love to you, and then publicly
stated she wouldn't piss in your shoe if you foot were on fire? The
same "Michelle" that you tried to convince everyone was the perfect
woman, only to have it come out later that you thought she was a
disgusting druggie? What happened to SCREENING, Roy?
Shall I post the relevant Message IDs for all to see, Roy? Your claims
about what happened during the "Michelle Saga" are all there, in your
own words, and in all of the unaltered, unadulterated responses. Roy
will try to claim that none of it is true, but anyone can research it on
Deja, and find out for themself.
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>> RNC: I'm glad that we've had the opportunity to chat here, but I
>> really have to go. Tell me how we can continue this conversation at
>> another time.
>
> <-------And with this statement you are conveying interest. Why let
> her know you want her? A man who truly doesn't need a specific woman
> wouldn't bother going even this far. He'd ASSUME that if she were
> interested she will find his way back to her.
>
Roy is trying to critique me? Hahahah.... Please, if this is all you can
do with your time, when the rest of us are out doing professional,
white-collar jobs, and seducing women that you couldn't even talk to
without being arrested as a pervert, then you need to get out more.
Roy, It's obvious that you're talking out your ass here. You yourself
have said that you should be open, honest and tell women the truth. When
those of us, like me, openly honestly and truthfully tell a chyck that
we find her interesting, you now try to claim that it shouldn't be done?
What medications are you taking? Or more importantly, not taking, that
you should be? Herpes come out of remission?
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>> Chyck: We can chat online again!
>
> <-----Which is what nature has given me. If I want to take it
> offline, I can do that in the next online chat.
>
IOW, if you want to talk to her in person, you can wait until she's
online? What logic is this? You really are a doofus. I bet you don't
like cheese either.
>
>> RNC: No, I'm afraid that won't do. As I'm sure yours is, my time is
>> valuable. I know that you wouldn't want me wasting your time by
>> having you sit around waiting on me to IM you, so I think it would
>> be better if we met at Bumfuzzle's for coffee at 4:30PM tomorrow.
>
> <---------Backdoor request for a date, and pompous. Good in that it
> forces the issue, but bad in HOW it does so.
>
Backdoor? Coming right out, and telling her (not asking) that you expect
to meet her is backdoor? Please, people. I surely hope that you all are
smart enough to read and understand how dumb this is. It's backdoor,
because you come right out and tell her what you expect.
As for you calling me pompous, all I have to say is, I get laid. A lot.
I also have something Roy is not familiar with, and that's backbone, and
courage enough to tell a woman what I expect of her. See, most guys
won't do this, because they are usually more concerned with being "nice"
and not confident, and commanding.
>
>> Chyck: Um, I can't. I have to get my toenail fungus removed then.
>
> <---------That is what happens when one pursues low-percentage
> options.
>
Hey, the guy has to work with what he has. You're now insulting the guy
who posted the original question, you realize... Do you think that you
will sell any copies of your book, if you treat your prospective
customers like dirt? Of course, from a guy that likes to talk online,
this is the best you can come up with.
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>> RNC: I'm afraid that won't do. You tell me when you can meet, and if
>> it doesn't conflict with my schedule, I'll be there.
>
> <-------Hmm, in "The Gift Of Fear," author Gavin DeBeckett says that
> the #1 indicator of a sexual predator is a man who ignores a woman
> saying no to him.
>
What Roy fails to say here, is that a sexual predator continually
ignores repeated demands to stop. If you don't call a woman on behavior
that is inappropriate for the contextual circumstances, then she'll have
free reign to lie to you all the time. Of course, anyone who has ever
had sex on a regular basis, and this doesn't incude Roy, knows that once
you get past the point of her playing games, and coming up with lame
excuses to get rid of the losers, you don't have to worry about being a
predator. She wants you in bed. She'll do everything she knows how to do
to get YOU there.
This is like the old advertising trick that they used with Ivory Soap.
They claimed 99 44/100% pure. They didn't say pure what. When you're
talking to a chyck online, and she says no to a meeting, WITH A LAME
EXCUSE, she's testing you. If you fail the test, and fall for the cheap
excuse, then she knows that you aren't strong enough to meet her
requirements, so you won't get the chance to be bedded by her. You can't
be considered a sexual predator, if you aren't getting sex, Like Roy.
He's 99 44/100% pure too. Pure what, I'll let you figure out.
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>> Chyck: How about 3:00PM on Thursday?
>> RNC: (After a 90 second pause after you finish typing the response,
>> and BEFORE you send it.) That's fine, I can make it at that time.
>> See you then. AND CUT THE CONNECTION.
>
> <------------Yes, don't risk further conversation, which might change
> her mind. Of course, some men don't fear this because they don't turn
> into pumpkins in two weeks. Men who aren't built to last need to race
> against time to seduce; men who are built to last do not because they
> know that any advantage they create will not be going anywhere.
>
Okay, Roy finally agrees with sound advice. Most guys WILL talk
themselves out of getting laid, because they don't know when to assume
the close. the Pick Up Artist, or Seducer, has no fear of a woman
dropping him, because this frees him up to find another chyck. With me
so far, Roy? Most seducers aren't interested in going for the long haul
because they know that they can get so many women that they don't need
to desperately cling to any one of them. Once again, Roy is talking out
his ass.
>> <| Alternate Ending |>
>> RNC: ...I think it would be better if we met at Bumfuzzle's for
>> coffee at 4:30Pm tomorrow.
> Chyck. No, I don't want to meet you for coffee.
>
> <----Smart lady!! I want her number!
>
And you can have her, to give her Herpes. Make sure you tell her up
front that you have a Sexually Transmitted Disease. Don't fail to
disclose that you have something you can give her, that could eventually
make her sterile, because you're a Foxhunter, and do this all the time,
with great success. If any woman refuses me, she's lost her one and only
chance to have the man (and sex) she's always dreamed of.
What happened to your "One-And-Done" philosophy? Shouldn't you try to
claim credit for this response? I told him that if she didn't meet his
requirements, that he should dump her.
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>> RNC: That's good to know. I appreciate you telling me that you can't
>> be bothered to meet with a man. Now I'm free to take my friend Erica
>> out for coffee. Goodbye. AND CUT THE CONNECTION.
>
> <--------Lame attempt to make her jealous. If Erica were truly
> dazzling, why would a man bother with the other one? The guy is
> acting like he didn't want her, but why did he ask her out?
>
See, Roy fell for this, just like a woman would. Recovering Nice Guy
never said he had a friend named Erica, and most likely doesn't. I don't
either. In fact, that "friend" may not even exist. So what. The chyck
that RNC is talking to doesn't know that. Nowhere did I suggest anything
of what "Erica" looks like. You made one of the "Classic Blunders!" Two
of them are, "Never get involved in a Land War in Asia." and "Never go
in against a Sicilian, when death is on the line." This classic blunder
is called "Believing that RNC has another Girlfriend, when he's only
using the Phantom Girlfriend Ploy."
YOUR False Attribution Error made her be "dazzling" because that's the
kind of woman you subconsciously see ME with. Thanks for the Social
Verification Roy.
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>> Either way, you find out exactly what's going on. You haven't been a
>> jerk, you haven't kissed her ass, and she knows that you have enough
>> balls to be straightforward with her. On the plus side, you get to
>> meet her in person, and have a chance to charm her panties off. On
>> the down side, you're free of wasting time with a girl you probably
>> weren't going to get anyway, and can now focus on going to
>> Bumfuzzle's for coffee so you can meet other Chycks in person, and
>> charm their panties off...
>
> <-------What you have been in this exchange is pompous and
> presumptuous.
>
Sticks and Stones, Roy... You and I both know that you couldn't pour
piss out of the boot that's up your ass, if the instructions were
written on the sole.
>
> Smart women don't take that bait. There's really never a need to ask
> someone out unless you want to resolve matters, but even that can be
> done without the direct request.
>
Some of the smartest women I know fall for me every time I turn around.
If they're falling in any way because of you, it's because they slipped
in their haste to get the hell away.
>
>> The point is, you've gotten offline, and out in the field where you
>> can do some real work. Which is where you should have been in the
>> first place.
>
> <-------I'd rather seduce her online at my leisure and let her find a
> way to meet me offline.
>
Still not man enough to take the initiative, Roy?
That's okay... We already knew that.
>
> Good enough example?
>
> <-----Pathetic, from this point of view.
>
No one cares about your point of view. They all know you couldn't get
laid by a fifty-cent hooker, if you had a pocketful of silver dollars.
>
> Remember, Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes
> perfect.
>
> <-----Physician, heal thyself.
>
I'm a teacher, not a doctor. The fact that you can't grasp the
significance of the comment, means that you think you know everything.
Anyone who's ever read anything you post, can see for themself that
you're an idiot.
--
Jack
<----------<< =+= >>---------->
The problem with Paradigms,
is that Shift happens...
(Reverse "oohay" to reply.)
Vince Runza
as well face it:
It isn't that Ray doesn't get it - he just can't sell it! C'mon, you may
actually give him a flare-up of his affliction if you keep razzing him this
way. Hmm. That's an interesting thought...