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mytru...@my-deja.com

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Dec 8, 2000, 5:21:40 PM12/8/00
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Ray,

Do you incorporate patterning and anchoring and other NLP techniques
into your seductions? Why or why not? I know you always say something
about hypnosis is like rape, but do you think patterning is hypnosis?
While you're reading this, think of why you do or do not like NLP
techniques and maybe elaborate on the reasons behind your thoughts.


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Ray Gordon

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Dec 8, 2000, 6:45:32 PM12/8/00
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>Ray,
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>Do you incorporate patterning and anchoring and other NLP techniques
>into your seductions? Why or why not? I know you always say something
>about hypnosis is like rape, but do you think patterning is hypnosis?
>While you're reading this, think of why you do or do not like NLP
>techniques and maybe elaborate on the reasons behind your thoughts.

I learned hypnosis when I was eight and study it as if it were a musical
instrument. Hence the title of my book "Hypnosis Composition Theory." It
pisses me off no end when I see a wannabe who has just learned hypnosis and
acts like he's invented the wheel, or when he goes into adjective overload
about this "wonderful new technique" which is neither new nor wonderful.

I cannot stress enough how WEAK of a hypnotic tool that NLP is. Sure, some
women will go under to it, but some audiences will also break into hysterical
laughter at the joke "I just flew in from Boston and boy are my arms tired" and
even to this day some kids will think KISS is the be-all and end-all of music
and not be able to appreciate the complexity of a Jimi Hendrix.

I don't want a woman who isn't assisting me in hypnotizing her. I don't want
to be covert about it, and I also don't want any resistance to the induction
because the resulting trance will be weaker.

To answer your question, yes I can work patterning and hypnosis into
conversation, but I can do so logically as well as through embeds. Leading is
leading, whether you do it by embedding commands in your language or whether
you do it by leading them to a logical conclusion.

Some examples of patterning that I hate include:

"What can we do to continue this process?" -- give me a break. Why beg a
question with an obvious answer? Just ask the damn question or LEAD them by
saying "Let's keep in touch."

"Have you ever...?" -- Why, you writing a book? The type of women I want
don't like indirect men.


Here's stuff I DO like:

"We're sickeningly compatible." -- used on a woman I am sickeningly compatible
with.

"If you can find five years to fuck his brains out and not one date for me I
don't wish to speak to you anymore." -- no commands, pure LOGIC, and believe
me it breaks her state.

"How can I be more like your ex so I can get a fine woman like you?" -- shoots
her arrogance down when she whines about another man and tries to make you pay
for what he did.

"Would you like to go out on a DATE sometime?" -- all the indirect WUSSes who
won't come out and ask have created a vacuum for those who do. Advantage here
is that you're being direct, asking for what you want, and she knows it's a
date if she accepts and that she loses teasing power if she doesn't.

"Oh, you're married/involved? Sorry, I can't talk to you anymore, bye." --
this will flush out a bad marriage or relationship (she sure doesn't want to
lose you to that), or even if it's a good one you can negotiate with her to
serve as your pivot.

These are logic-based, not emotion-based. Trying to seduce a woman through her
emotions is like trying to outslug Mike Tyson. Women aren't very logical, and
if you can move a conversation into logical, **sexual** territory her mind goes
into overload and shuts down. When that happens, a quick shift into aggressive
sexual talk can close the deal extremely quickly, because she's sick of (losing
the) argument and her RELATING instincts kick in.


Ray Gordon

The Seduction Library -- http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html
Hypnosis Composition Theory -- http://www.cybersheet.com/hypno/index.html
The Revolution (Sports/Horses) -- http://www.cybersheet.com/sportpix.html


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