Whizard Ray
edromney
like on here. Then he had the screen name, Whizard Ray. At least he
says something original and baffles the liberals. As per his book, he
needs to get an ISBN number from RR Bowker..That is where the action is.
Then Amazon will carry it, as they carry my books, and he will be in
the market. Best wishes to Ray and all the rest of you.....Ed Romney
http://www.edromney.com
Outfoxing The Foxes
<------Netgirl is a ghost town now. Keyword: Women Talk for the best
relationship board on AOL. There is no need for an ISBN number because
the only way to get my books is through my website. Amazon.com has
enough money.
Thanks for the well-wishes.
Outfoxing The Foxes: How To Seduce The Women Of Your Dreams
http://www.cybersheet.com/fox/index.html
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James L. King III
Outfoxing The Foxes <outfoxxing...@juno.com> wrote:
> Some Guy Writes:
>
> Ray Gordon was on aol 's Net Girl some years back teasing people, like
> on here. Then he had the screen name, Whizard Ray. At least he says
> something original and baffles the liberals. As per his book, he needs
> to get an ISBN number from RR Bowker..That is where the action is. Then
> Amazon will carry it, as they carry my books, and he will be in the
> market. Best wishes to Ray and all the rest of you.....Ed Romney
> http://www.edromney.com
>
> <------Netgirl is a ghost town now. Keyword: Women Talk for the best
> relationship board on AOL. There is no need for an ISBN number because
> the only way to get my books is through my website. Amazon.com has
> enough money.
Or rather, you don't have the money to provide a distributor with
enough supply to meet their demand in order to distribute, nor do you
have the time to package it as they desire.
So you'd rather keep things extremely small time rather than take a
shot at making it really big.
See, Ray, you told us this book of yours would be a national best
seller by now. It is only a best seller in terms of cybersheet.com ...
which isn't saying much at all.
You also told us that you'd be interviewed on Oprah and other talk
shows by now and that you'd expose every other seduction book (except
for Ms. Freisen's book, which you seem to advocate very highly) as a
fraud. Or was that just Ross' methods that you'd expose? Or maybe it
was all of them. It's so hard to keep track of your train of though
sometimes.
>
> Thanks for the well-wishes.
You know, it's amazing that someone with such a mathmatical mind cannot
see that distribution through amazon.com will net him more money than
self-distribution.
Right now, according to the order form on Ray's website, 1351 people
have visited the order page, and the invoice number when I clicked on
it was 1306 ... which means 306 people have looked at the order page
since it went up. It doesn't say what percentage of those people have
ordered, but it certainly isn't 100%, since I've visited that page
several times without ordering.
So let's be liberal and say that 2/3 of the people have ordered from
that page. It could be higher or much less, but I think the 2/3 is a
fair accessment from this perspective.
2/3 of 306 is 204.
204 people x $29.95 = $6109.80
Now, let's look at distribution through another company ...
Getting an ISBN number is an additional nominal expense through the
copyright office, if my recollection is correct. Sometimes the
publisher will do this for you and charge it to your book sales, so
that no money comes out of your pocket.
An ISBN number and cataloging within the major online booksellers
insures that more people will know the book exists. Right now, all Ray
has is Usenet exposure on alt.seduction.fast and alt.romance, with
occasional exposure at soc.singles and soc.men, but not much there. The
only other internet advertising he has is from one links site. I
checked with the major search engines, searching first for "seduction
book" and didn't get a mention of Outfoxing the Foxes anywhere.
Searching for the book by title (extremely rare unless you know what
you're looking for) didn't show Ray's book or website on Altavista or
GO network (formerly Infoseek) OR MSN's search engine (although MSN
does show Aaren's dating links service as the first entry, and on that
page you can find Outfoxing the Foxes buried in the middle of the
links.
So instead of reaching a miniscule number of regular readers on Usenet,
Ray would reach millions more people through stocks in local bookstores
and online booksellers ... let's be really hard on Ray and say that
those companies take 98% of what he would earn ... that's a ludicrous
figure, of course -- publishers and distributors will charge much less
than that. But this would simply show how asinine Ray is for choosing
to do everything himself.
Now, instead of only a couple of thousand visits to his site thanks to
some Usenet posts (some of which bordered on being spam), he has
national exposure. He can also get interviewed on the major talk shows:
Oprah, etc., and the morning shows: Good Morning America, Today ... and
the evening shows: Conan O'Brien, Letterman, Leno ... Now that his book
is considered legitimate and can be obtained easily by anyone online
(and Ray won't have to spend any energy to self-distribute, then,
either -- all he'd have to do is make sure that he keeps his
distributor supplied with the books so that the distributor will be
able to respond promptly.)
So now the market is 75 million people ... Assuming no more than 1/10
of 1 percent choose to purchase the book, that is 75,000 copies of his
book sold at $29.95. Which is a gross of $2,246,250. And assuming that
Ray only gets TWO PERCENT of that, then he'd make $44,925 from that.
Chances are he'd make much more, and certainly more money than he's
making doing it by himself.
And he'd have much greater popularity and fame, not to mention his book
would reach more people and thus have more of an impact on seduction
and how people seduce. Right now, only several hundred people have
purchased the book.
So, Ray could earn at least five times as much money simply by getting
an ISBN number and finding a distributor ... Bookmakers.com will do it
for Ray, They distribute many self-published books through all of the
major outlets and independent bookstores.
But Ray is so paranoid about others making money off of "his work" that
he won't do so. And his sales will continue to languish while he tries
to convince himself that the book is selling well. When in fact he
knows that if he simply put in a little more effort, his book could
sell well into the hundreds of thousands or millions.
Oh well, If he's happy with only a couple of hundred sales, more power
to him.
James King
Odious
>
> Some Guy Writes:
>
> Ray Gordon was on aol 's Net Girl some years back teasing people, like
> on here. Then he had the screen name, Whizard Ray. At least he says
> something original and baffles the liberals. As per his book, he needs
> to get an ISBN number from RR Bowker..That is where the action is. Then
> Amazon will carry it, as they carry my books, and he will be in the
> market. Best wishes to Ray and all the rest of you.....Ed Romney
> http://www.edromney.com
>
> <------Netgirl is a ghost town now. Keyword: Women Talk for the best
> relationship board on AOL. There is no need for an ISBN number because
> the only way to get my books is through my website. Amazon.com has
> enough money.
>
Yes we see ray's obfuscation. He won't use amazon or any other book
retailer because he wants all the money for himself...though anybody in
the publishing business can tell you that you make way way more money
through resellers than self-publishing.
The real reason ray won't get an ISBN number or actually get his book
copyrighted is because it is a load of plagiarized crap. The only thing
in that book he did not plagiarize from Alt.seduction.fast or
www.seduction.com is that inept bullshit CUPID rating system which has
been proven to be absolutely useless on an individual level.
Hey ray...you said six months ago that you'd be a millionaire by
now...what happened?
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