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foxhunters posting here in support of them?
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good advice?
LOL
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do you mean advice such as don't aproach women isn't actually
good advice? LOL
<-------I don't know, most Foxhunters have no need to post after they get
laid....one who posted here regularly stopped cold-turkey after finding a
hottie TWO YEARS AGO, resisting making moves on her until she practically
threw herself at him. Of course, the book doesn't rule out
approaches....it merely says that they should be a LAST resort, not a
first.
The person you are responding to had a nerve struck by me when I
suggested that his money and his woman's body may be the glue holding
their relationship together a lot stronger than he realizes or admits.
He has barely left me alone since and apparently has even come into my
own group to bother me.
I've sold several hundred copies of the books and several hundred more
have read it recently. Actual criticism of the method by those who use
it (and who didn't purchase it from a hostile viewpoint) is
**remarkably** low. In fact, I never got a single negative feedback in
my mail about the book, but many positive ones, including a few which
were posted here.
The book is completely free now so anyone who needs the advice can have
it. Those who don't follow it deserve what they get. I've had way too
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"Pathological Thought
pathological thought cannot see itself
pathological thought - does not see itself, cannot see itself.
Cannot see other types of thought.
The term "pathological" is used to designate thinking that is
unbalanced by emotion. The emotion in pathological thinking is
not necessarily "negative", although, say, anger or jealously
are probably the most obvious examples of emotions that disturb
thought. More positive emotions such as "hope" can also
influence
thought and direct it to such an extent that they subvert the
progression of a thought and lead to desired rather
than reasonable conclusions.
But certainly, pathological thinking is most obvious when it is
mixed with a negative emotion, say anger, and is expressed
vehemently,
rapidly, and with, perhaps, intent to injure. If one listens
patiently
to a pathological tirade and does not respond in kind, it often
forces
a self-awareness which may derail the momentum of the speaker,
leading
to a more reasoned discussion. A perceived smug silence,
however, may
enrage it further, in which case a thoughtful unemotional
response may
prove far more effective in bringing the discussion into the
light of
reason and so transform pathological thought, which can only
exist in
the darkness of no self-awareness.
It should be recognized that the words spoken by pathological
thinking
do not mean what they say, that is, the words do not stand for
themselves
but rather serve an underlying emotion which may even be exactly
the
opposite of what is said. This can lead to endless confusion
unless the
difference between intent and verbiage is recognized. (This
confusion is
not necessarily only in discussion, but can also occur within
us, when we
are thinking about some situation. It is just more easily seen
in another
person, hence in conversation). If we listen to our own
inflections when
speaking, and the inflection of others, we may begin to
recognize certain
tones, also a certain speed and other characteristics that
accompany
pathological thinking."
- (from
http://www.rahul.net/raithel/otfw/threetypesofthought.html )
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>The person you are responding to had a nerve struck by me when I
>suggested that his money and his woman's body may be the glue
holding
>their relationship together a lot stronger than he realizes or
admits.
>He has barely left me alone since and apparently has even come
into my
>own group to bother me.
you're practically calling this guys girlfriend a whore, what
did she do to warrant such a harsh judgement?
how do you figure that personality only accounts for 5 per cent
of how women judge men?
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>>I suggested that his money and his woman's body may be the glue
>>holding their relationship together
Ray did a lot more than mearly suggest... mind you I was
quick to attack him because his line of questioning was
falling into the same pattern of attack as he does to
other peoples relationships who question him.
Eventually he comes to the conclusion that our women
are evil because they allow us to post opinions against
ray and flame him.
>you're practically calling this guys girlfriend a whore, what
>did she do to warrant such a harsh judgement?
>how do you figure that personality only accounts for 5 per cent
>of how women judge men?
Here is a very simple answer based on the fact Ray has admitted
to being bipolar although he claims it is "mild" at best,
and "event triggered":
"Bipolar affective disorder
Alternative names
bipolar disorder; manic depressive illness; affective bipolar
disorder
Definition
A mood disorder characterized by mood swings from mania
(exaggerated feeling of well-being) to depression.
Causes, incidence, and risk factors Bipolar affective disorder
results in pathological mood swings from mania to depression,
with a tendency to recur and subside spontaneously. Either the
manic or the depressive episodes can predominate and produce few
mood swings, or the patterns of mood swings may be cyclic. The
manic phase is characterized by elation, hyperactivity,
over-involvement in activities, inflated self-esteem, a tendency
to be easily distracted, and little need for sleep. The manic
episodes may last from several days to months. In the depressive
phase there is sluggishness (inertia), loss of self-esteem,
withdrawal, sadness, and a risk of suicide. Some people are known
as rapid cyclers and their mood may change several times a day.
The disorder appears between the ages of 15 and 25 and affects
men and women equally. The cause is unknown, but hereditary and
psychological factors may play a role. The incidence is higher in
relatives of people with bipolar disorders.
Prevention:
Unknown
Symptoms:
alternating mania (exaggerated feeling of well-being) or
depression; one emotional tone may predominate
little or no observable change in mood, or mood is inappropriate
for the situation anxiety, stress, and tension
In the depressive phase:
* loss of self-esteem
* withdrawal
* feelings of helplessness or worthlessness
* excessive or inappropriate guilt
* fatigue (tiredness or weariness) lasting for weeks to months
* overwhelming sluggishness (inertia)
* persistent daytime sleepiness
* insomnia
* difficulty concentrating, easily distracted by
inconsequential event(s)
* loss of appetite
* weight loss (unintentional)
* abnormal thoughts about death
* thoughts about suicide, plans to commit suicide, or suicide
attempt(s)
* diminished interest in daily activities
* diminished pleasure in daily activities
* memory loss (amnesia) episode
In the manic phase:
* elevated mood
* increased activities
* flight of ideas or racing thoughts
* inflated self-esteem
* decreased need for sleep
* agitation
* more talkative than usual or pressure to keep talking
* increased purposeless activity (e.g., pacing, hand wringing)
* extreme restlessness
* weight gain (unintentional)
* poor temper control
* excessively irresponsible behavior pattern
* increased goal-directed social or sexual activity
* impaired excessive involvement in pleasurable activities with
high potential for painful consequences
* false beliefs (delusions)
* hallucinations
Signs and Tests:
A psychiatric history of mood swings and an observation of
current behavior and mood are helpful in the diagnosis of this
disorder. A family history of manic-depressive illness may be
present. A physical examination may be performed to rule out
physical causes of the disorder.
Treatment:
Hospitalization may be required during an acute phase to control
the symptoms. Antidepressant drugs may be given. Neuroleptic
drugs and benzodiazepine are often used to control mania in
the acute phase. Lithium carbonate may be prescribed for
maintenance therapy to relieve symptoms and prevent the onset of
mood swings. In severe cases, electroconvulsive therapy
(ECT) may be used to treat persistent depression. ECT is a
psychiatric treatment that causes a central nervous system
seizure by means of an electrical current. It is used to treat
severe depression and can be effective in manic disorders.
Psychotherapy may also be needed for emotional support during the
depressive phase.
Support Groups:
The stress of illness can often be helped by joining a support
group where members share common experiences and problems.
Expectations (prognosis):
In some people, lithium therapy has prevented recurrence of
symptoms. In others, poor compliance with lithium therapy or
unwanted side effects, have made it less effective.
Expectations (prognosis):
In some people, lithium therapy has prevented recurrence of
symptoms. In others, poor compliance with lithium therapy or
unwanted side effects, have made it less effective.
Complications:
Suicide potential is present with sustained depression.
Calling your health care provider:
Call your health care provider or mental health professional if
you experience symptoms of bipolar affective disorder."
- Taken from (
http://health.yahoo.com/health/Diseases_and_Conditions/Disease_Fe
ed_Data/Bipolar_disorder__manic_/ )
Other terms that apply here based on the above description:
"delusion, false belief based upon a misinterpretation of
reality. It is not, like a hallucination, a false
sensory perception, or like an illusion, a distorted perception.
Delusions vary in intensity, and are not uncommon among
substance abusers, particularly those who use amphetamines,
cocaine, and hallucinogens. They also occur frequently among
individuals who have been diagnosed with Alzheimer's disease,
Huntington's disease, or schizophrenia, and during the manic
stage of bipolar disorder (see depression). Some common
delusions include persecutory delusions, in which the individual
falsely believes that others are plotting against him; delusions
of thought broadcasting, where the individual believes his
thoughts can be transmitted to others; delusions
of thought insertion, in which the individual believes that
thoughts are being implanted in his mind; and delusions of
grandeur, in which the individual imagines himself an
unappreciated person of great importance."
- Taken from ( http://infoplease.kids.lycos.com ) while
looking for the definition of "delusion"
"Pathological Thought
pathological thought cannot see itself
pathological thought - does not see itself, cannot see itself.
Cannot see other types of thought.
The term "pathological" is used to designate thinking that is
unbalanced by emotion. The emotion in pathological thinking is
not necessarily "negative", although, say, anger or jealously
are probably the most obvious examples of emotions that disturb
thought. More positivehinking is
As for it being "mild" .. check out his posting history
through Dejanews under his various handles and let me
know when you stop laughing:
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"Ray Gordon" or ray*gordon@*.com
ray...@hotmail.com
...... "invasion of privacy" / "portrayal in a false
light" my ass! I base ALL of my OPINIONS soley on HIS own
posting history and what he has admitted to (e.g. calling
women "cunts" and "whores", suicidal, thoughts, being bipolar,
even mixing vodka/sleeping pills at one point to help out his
insomnia) just like the rest of the world who is out to get him.
As for it being "event triggered":
"Causes & Triggers:
There are as many potential causes of bipolar disorder as there
are people who suffer it. Bipolar disorder is most often
experienced as a swing between a manic and a depressed mood,
which may often be related to increased stress or other event in
a person's normal life. Nearly anything can trigger a person to
shift in mood, and sometimes there is no obvious trigger at all.
Feelings of mania (an unnatural "high") or depression caused by
medications or substance or alcohol abuse are not typically
recognized as bipolar disorder. Family history and genetics also
often play an important role in the greater likelihood of someone
having this disorder in their lifetime. Increased stress and
inadequate coping mechanisms to deal with that stress may also
contribute to the disorder's manifestation."
- Taken from ( http://bipolar.mentalhelp.net/ )
Lets us be clear on one thing...
I AM NOT A DOCTOR, just a man stating his observations and
using his own (not perfect) COMMON SENSE to put 2 and 2
together.
This guy also claims he is going to shut down multiple newsgroups
and lump over 70 people into a CIVIL RICO lawsuit... although
every one of these people have this option to protect them
and have Ray cover their legal expenses:
"MALICIOUS PROSECUTION AND ABUSE OF PROCESS
A malicious prosecution claim can arise from a malicious civil
or criminal prosecution. The claim ripens once you have
been victorious in defending a criminal or civil prosecution
and if the evidence would establish that the person or
person that initiated the pursued the prosecution did so without
probable cause and acted maliciously.
Abuses of Process claims are to some degree akin to a
lesser-included offense in criminal law. In other words, it is
almost synonymous with a civil malicious prosecution claim. These
claims normally involve the lawful institution of a
legal proceeding that the plaintiff then subverts to attain
something that he lawfully could not obtain through the use of
legal process.
Damages in these types of claims can at times be quite
significant. In many cases, you have been forced to expend a
great deal of time and money to defend the frivolous and
malicious prosecution. Therefore, the law allows for you to be
compensated when someone institutes and continues to maliciously
prosecute you criminally or civilly."
-- Taken from ( http://www.amoralethics.com/free_legal_advice.htm
)
More Signs Of A Malicious Prosecutor?
"Hell, I'm working on having the Civil Rights Act of 1964
overturned as a payback to women for falling down on civil
rights. "
"I've had MILLIONS of dollars STOLEN from me"
"When our network is built, we will be able to sue anyone,
anywhere, at any time."
"Are you calling my lawyer and I liars? Please, PLEASE be more
specific on that one. We'd love it."
"My lawyer was giving me legal advice. He was going to represent
me but that fell through, not that this even mattered because my
case can practically win itself. He also didn't know what
criminal libel was and I considered that a sign that it was time
to handle the case myself again."
-RICO Suave out to sue the world!
For the record I am part of no conspiracy.. just the one
you can read about through Dejanews.
Just as my mom!
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Odious
et wrote:
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> >
> >The person you are responding to had a nerve struck by me when I
> >suggested that his money and his woman's body may be the glue
> holding
> >their relationship together a lot stronger than he realizes or
> admits.
> >He has barely left me alone since and apparently has even come
> into my
> >own group to bother me.
>
> you're practically calling this guys girlfriend a whore, what
> did she do to warrant such a harsh judgement?
>
She had sex with someone who wasn't ray.
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Odious
The Seduction Library wrote:
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> Some Guy Writes:
>
> do you mean advice such as don't aproach women isn't actually
> good advice? LOL
>
> <-------I don't know, most Foxhunters have no need to post after they get
> laid....one who posted here regularly stopped cold-turkey after finding a
> hottie TWO YEARS AGO,
Is that the same foxhunter who trolls for virgins in teen groups while
quoting you as he supports NAMBLA?