How to be a Bad Boy - Case in Point
James L. King III
Outfoxing The Foxes <outfoxxing...@juno.com> wrote:
> <--------Do you attack women who screw over men? For example, would you
> attack this woman for turning down an honest man for a man like David?
> Or are you just taking advantage of righteous anger to score points with
> women.
>
Ray, why are you criticizing this behavior? You have quite often
advocated that men show women the Speed Seduction site as a seduction
tool (later denying that they would ever do such a thing). Is this not
in your mind also taking advantage of righteous anger to score points
with women?
[snip]
>
> You are a spoiled brat. Id kick you in the ass.
>
> <----And the police would arrest you. What makes you think violence is
> justified here? In fact, if I were a woman, I'd wonder if you were
> abusive yourself or what you might expect in return for playing Bluto.
>
Does this mean that all of your scare tactics regarding "Bluto" are
unfounded? After all, according to what you've just said, all you have
to do is call the cops when "Bluto" arrives.
So all your talk about "Beware of Bluto" was unfounded.
>
> She has done nothing to earn your anger, you are telling her that her
> life better not ever
> conflict with yours, even if something important comes up. You are
> teaching her to fear you not respect you. If she were stepping out of
> line its a different story. Id hate myself for hurting somone like this.
> SS is about bringing joy and excitement into a womans life. Not about
> turning her into a cowering slave. I say take no shit from anyone, but
> christ, make sure it is shit first.
>
> <----------SS is manipulative itself. You focus on the feelings it gives
> women, but ignores the lies and omissions which are anything but
> positive.
>
Outfoxing does the same thing, though, Ray. Do you really expect me to
believe that you seduce women by telling them that they have no value
in this world except to provide you personally with sex? If you don't
tell the women that upfront, then you are making grave omissions and
profound lies to those women.
[snip]
>
> Personally I really like the complete trust I had with my girlfriend. I
> would flirt my ass off with other girls, right in front of her. I never
> took it beyond that, ever. but it was fun and I felt SO GOOD that she
> trusted me so completly. my flirting didnt bother her BECAUSE I did it
> in front of her, she trusted me. Scenarios like this, like any of these
> never happened with us. There was mutual respect between us and when one
> of us felt disrespected we dealt with it in an adult manner.
>
> <----------Then you have a good relationship. SS is useful then because
> the feelings are genuine.
Ray, but if he said he used SS, then you would say he was being
dishonest simply because he was using SS.
So what you're saying now is that Speed Seduction can be used honestly
if the feelings are genuine.
That means that if you criticize others for using Speed Seduction
dishonestly, then you somehow "know" what they're feeling.
[snip - I agree with the parts about using the same criteria to judge
women though]
James King
ha...@bigfoot.com
of inducing a person of otherwise chaste moral character to indulge in a
sexual relationship without any intention of forming the bonds normally
represented in such a relationship. on the other hand, we can all admit
that there are many among us who, in their self-absorbed egocentric
little way, just want to get their own bodies rubbed. and if what we're
talking about is two such people who just want to rub their bodies
together without regard for the other person in the fastest and easiest
manner possible, why not be fairly direct about what's really wanted?
There are women who respond positively to "Hey, Babe, want some right
NOW?" They're not worth talking to, but then who wants to talk? And
they do have real advantages over, say, sheep, because they can be
ordered to go and get another Bud and more chips during halftime. Such
a woman can give you something you've never had before -- like, the
clap.
> ...
> Ray, but if he said he used SS, then you would say he was being
> dishonest simply because he was using SS.
>
> So what you're saying now is that Speed Seduction can be used honestly
> if the feelings are genuine.
>
> That means that if you criticize others for using Speed Seduction
> dishonestly, then you somehow "know" what they're feeling.
> ...
Odious
>
> isn't seduction inherently dishonest? after all, it refers to the act
> of inducing a person of otherwise chaste moral character to indulge in a
> sexual relationship without any intention of forming the bonds normally
> represented in such a relationship.
On the contrary, speed seduction teaches you how to form those bonds at
will and to do so more effectivly and faster. There is nothing
dishonest in showing somebody something that might cause them to want
soemthing they did not previously want.
> on the other hand, we can all admit
> that there are many among us who, in their self-absorbed egocentric
> little way, just want to get their own bodies rubbed. and if what we're
> talking about is two such people who just want to rub their bodies
> together without regard for the other person in the fastest and easiest
> manner possible, why not be fairly direct about what's really wanted?
> There are women who respond positively to "Hey, Babe, want some right
> NOW?" They're not worth talking to, but then who wants to talk? And
> they do have real advantages over, say, sheep, because they can be
> ordered to go and get another Bud and more chips during halftime. Such
> a woman can give you something you've never had before -- like, the
> clap.
>
Well, ray already has herpes.
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