NLP: "How did it FEEL when you learned he CHEATED"
Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"
wants to dump her problems about the "jerk" she just "dumped" on you, since
it pretty much destroys the "therapist frame."
The PUA's greatest weakness is that he's a CHEATER at heart. It's up to the
rAFC not to let him get away with this.
--
Ray Gordon, Author
The OFFICIAL Ray Gordon Blog:
http://moderncaveman.typepad.com
dman
Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot" wrote:
> This is a good pattern (specific pattern language omitted) for when a hottie
> wants to dump her problems about the "jerk" she just "dumped" on you, since
> it pretty much destroys the "therapist frame."
>
> The PUA's greatest weakness is that he's a CHEATER at heart. It's up to the
> rAFC not to let him get away with this.
Nah, I'm just spreading the love around with as many lucky ladies as I
can.
happysed...@yahoo.com
Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot" wrote:
First real boyfriend that cheated on me? Like a thousand pounds of
coke had been stuffed up my nose. Hysteria would sound about right.
That's a good one that a girl will love to re-tell. Right.
Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"
>> hottie
>> wants to dump her problems about the "jerk" she just "dumped" on you,
>> since
>> it pretty much destroys the "therapist frame."
>>
>> The PUA's greatest weakness is that he's a CHEATER at heart. It's up to
>> the
>> rAFC not to let him get away with this.
>>
> coke had been stuffed up my nose. Hysteria would sound about right.
> That's a good one that a girl will love to re-tell. Right.
The idea is to anchor it to her thoughts of the "fun" PUA the next time one
of these losers runs game on her.
happysed...@yahoo.com
Ray Gordon, creator of the pivot wrote:
Okay.
Alex
creator of the "pivot" at r...@cybersheet.com wrote on 1/1/07 11:37 PM:
> This is a good pattern (specific pattern language omitted)
Probably because Gordon's ability to comprehend words is famously lacking.
> for when a hottie
> wants to dump her problems about the "jerk" she just "dumped" on you, since
> it pretty much destroys the "therapist frame."
Actually, it doesn't.
Someone who's been in therapy (and understands how to comprehend English)
would know why it doesn't.
>
> The PUA's greatest weakness is that he's a CHEATER at heart. It's up to the
> rAFC not to let him get away with this.
Jealousy that other men can get multiple women while you get none is not
rAFC.
Alex
creator of the "pivot" at r...@cybersheet.com wrote on 1/2/07 3:59 AM:
>>> This is a good pattern (specific pattern language omitted) for when a
>>> hottie
>>> wants to dump her problems about the "jerk" she just "dumped" on you,
>>> since
>>> it pretty much destroys the "therapist frame."
>>>
>>> The PUA's greatest weakness is that he's a CHEATER at heart. It's up to
>>> the
>>> rAFC not to let him get away with this.
>>>
>> First real boyfriend that cheated on me? Like a thousand pounds of
>> coke had been stuffed up my nose. Hysteria would sound about right.
>> That's a good one that a girl will love to re-tell. Right.
>
> The idea is to anchor it to her thoughts of the "fun" PUA the next time one
> of these losers runs game on her.
>
If only Gordon knew how.
Once he learned that, then he'd just need a complete personality transplant
to get to talk to a woman long enough to do it.
Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"
>> one
>> of these losers runs game on her.
>>
>
> If only Gordon knew how.
More than an MTLR slut-fucking pussy like Alex will ever know, that's for
sure.
> Once he learned that, then he'd just need a complete personality
> transplant
> to get to talk to a woman long enough to do it.
Alex thinks he's cool when he talks like that, as if his failed marriage and
MLTR with slut trash were some type of cred.
If you want to be a verbally abusive coward like Alex, who couldn't even
stay married, and who fucks women who let their men fuck other women (i.e.,
slut trash/MLTR), then by all means, take his advice.
Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"
>
> Probably because Gordon's ability to comprehend words is famously lacking.
Actually, it's not. Alex just has this incessant need to flame and is
famously lacking in his debate skills.
>> for when a hottie
>> wants to dump her problems about the "jerk" she just "dumped" on you,
>> since
>> it pretty much destroys the "therapist frame."
>
> Actually, it doesn't.
Actually, it does.
> Someone who's been in therapy (and understands how to comprehend English)
> would know why it doesn't.
I wouldn't know about Alex's therapy history, but avoiding the "therapist
frame" is basic PU theory.
At least to men who understand PU it is.
>> The PUA's greatest weakness is that he's a CHEATER at heart. It's up to
>> the
>> rAFC not to let him get away with this.
>
> Jealousy that other men can get multiple women while you get none is not
> rAFC.
Alex is confused: first, I get women, and second, I don't count MLTR slut
trash as conquests, so on his scorecard, he's the one with the zero.
Odious
"Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote in message
news:lpidnaPMdO85fATY...@pghconnect.com...
> This is a good pattern (specific pattern language omitted) for when a
> hottie wants to dump her problems about the "jerk" she just "dumped" on
> you, since it pretty much destroys the "therapist frame."
>
> The PUA's greatest weakness is that he's a CHEATER at heart. It's up to
> the rAFC not to let him get away with this.
>
Must drive ray nuts that women are more willing to fuck a guy they know will
cheat on them, than fuck gordo.
No wonder he's such an angry bitter little sissy boy.
Odious
"dman" <dm...@mytrashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1167720736.7...@s34g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Gordo doesn't grasp the idea of having multiple women in ones life without
it being cheating... because it is something that he's never been able to
accomplish.
Odious
>>> This is a good pattern (specific pattern language omitted) for when a
>>> hottie
>>> wants to dump her problems about the "jerk" she just "dumped" on you,
>>> since
>>> it pretty much destroys the "therapist frame."
>>>
>>> The PUA's greatest weakness is that he's a CHEATER at heart. It's up to
>>> the
>>> rAFC not to let him get away with this.
>>>
>> First real boyfriend that cheated on me? Like a thousand pounds of
>> coke had been stuffed up my nose. Hysteria would sound about right.
>> That's a good one that a girl will love to re-tell. Right.
>
> The idea is to anchor it to her thoughts of the "fun" PUA the next time
> one of these losers runs game on her.
>
Poor gordo still can not get laid... so his idea of success with women is
simply to cockblock some other dude.
LOL!
Gordo's greatest dream is that some day he just might get to enjoy some real
PUA's sloppy seconds.
Krus T. Olfard
news:Kmvmh.16060$E%7.1...@newsfe19.lga:
I personally believe that any sane woman would choose her german shepherd
over gordy baybee...
okay, that's a disgusting image but is it any more disgusting that
picturing her with gordy?
--
Krustavus Teofilus Olfard
------------------
Everything I post is my opinion. If you don't like my opinions then
killfile me, if you have the balls.
BTW: If there is one clear rule in this world, it's "Do NOT stick your
finger in the ancient alien coffin."
Odious
>>> The idea is to anchor it to her thoughts of the "fun" PUA the next time
>>> one
>>> of these losers runs game on her.
>>>
>>
>> If only Gordon knew how.
>
> More than an MTLR slut-fucking pussy like Alex will ever know, that's for
> sure.
>
On the contrary gordita, your grasp of NLP is so weak, it would be a
challenge just for you to rise to the level of remedial understanding.
Anchoring negative emotional states to "the other guys" is dramatically less
effective than associating positive emotional states with one's self.
However since poor gordo knows he'll never succeed with women, his only hope
is to at least try to cockblock any other guys.
Lucky for us all that gordita is such an incompetent failure.
>> Once he learned that, then he'd just need a complete personality
>> transplant
>> to get to talk to a woman long enough to do it.
>
> Alex thinks he's cool when he talks like that, as if his failed marriage
> and MLTR with slut trash were some type of cred.
They are gordo... in fact wasn't it you who said marriage was the only real
gauge of seductive skill?
Alex has been married... so according to your own arguments, he has more
credibility than you.
>
> If you want to be a verbally abusive coward like Alex, who couldn't even
> stay married,
From the guy who can't even get a woman to take a picture with him....
> and who fucks women who let their men fuck other women (i.e., slut
> trash/MLTR), then by all means, take his advice.
>
He didn't really give any advice in that post, gordita. He just pointed out
that you're full of shit.
But hell, everybody already knows that.
Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"
>> one of these losers runs game on her.
>>
>
Sounds like Odiot is the one trying to COCKBLOCK here.
Guess he thinks NLP doesn't work when you try to anchor her to the GOOD
FEELINGS of knowing she is with an HONEST MAN WHO WOULD NOT CHEAT ON HER.
Says an awful lot about Odiot, that's for sure.
Odious
"Alex" <akau...@nyc.NOSPAM.rr.com> wrote in message
news:C1BFA2A6.EB6A8%akau...@nyc.NOSPAM.rr.com...
> in article lpidnaPMdO85fATY...@pghconnect.com, Ray Gordon,
> creator of the "pivot" at r...@cybersheet.com wrote on 1/1/07 11:37 PM:
>
>> This is a good pattern (specific pattern language omitted)
>
> Probably because Gordon's ability to comprehend words is famously lacking.
>
His grasp of even basic NLP concepts is so far below remedial, that he's
never been able to construct an effective pattern or apply an anchor.
>> for when a hottie
>> wants to dump her problems about the "jerk" she just "dumped" on you,
>> since
>> it pretty much destroys the "therapist frame."
>
> Actually, it doesn't.
>
> Someone who's been in therapy (and understands how to comprehend English)
> would know why it doesn't.
You have to remember that gordo's only goal at this point is to try and
cockblock other dudes.
He's admitted to himself the fact that he will never succeed with women...
he knows that he'll never get laid. Gordo knows he will never be the man
that some woman is in love with.
So his only hope now is to fuck it up for the guys who aren't total
failures.... and the sad little shit can't even do that effectively.
>
>>
>> The PUA's greatest weakness is that he's a CHEATER at heart. It's up to
>> the
>> rAFC not to let him get away with this.
>
> Jealousy that other men can get multiple women while you get none is not
> rAFC.
>
Gordo's words are so steeped in envy that his screen must glow green.
Johannes Seppi
\"pivot\"" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote:
>>> This is a good pattern (specific pattern language omitted) for when a
>>> hottie
>>> wants to dump her problems about the "jerk" she just "dumped" on you,
>>> since
>>> it pretty much destroys the "therapist frame."
>>>
>>> The PUA's greatest weakness is that he's a CHEATER at heart. It's up to
>>> the
>>> rAFC not to let him get away with this.
>>>
>> First real boyfriend that cheated on me? Like a thousand pounds of
>> coke had been stuffed up my nose. Hysteria would sound about right.
>> That's a good one that a girl will love to re-tell. Right.
>
>The idea is to anchor it to her thoughts of the "fun" PUA the next time one
>of these losers runs game on her.
Ray, you just love your keyboard jockeying, don't you?
Better go out and get some real life experience, before showing your
cluelessness every time you post.
Johannes
Lori Koonce
Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot" wrote:
> >> The idea is to anchor it to her thoughts of the "fun" PUA the next time
> >> one of these losers runs game on her.
> >>
> >
> >his idea of success with women is simply to cockblock some other dude.
>
> Sounds like Odiot is the one trying to COCKBLOCK here.
>
> Guess he thinks NLP doesn't work when you try to anchor her to the GOOD
> FEELINGS of knowing she is with an HONEST MAN WHO WOULD NOT CHEAT ON HER.
>
> Says an awful lot about Odiot, that's for sure.
Ray
The only thing that is being said, IMHO is that you are full of SHIT.
You've yet to prove to anyone's satisfaction that you can even get near
enough a woman for a picture, let alone a sexual escapade.
Odious OTH has shown himself both by word and picture to be able to
attract a bevy of rather attractive women.
So, all things considered......
Who's cockblocking here. If nothing else, Odious has saved a few Philly
Hotties who may be reading this the digusting problems that would come
with meeting you!
Lori
Trianna
Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot" wrote:
> wants to dump her problems about the "jerk" she just "dumped" on you, since
> it pretty much destroys the "therapist frame."
How would that help you get sex, though, Mr. Parker?
I would think it would alienate the woman from the guy who was bringing
up the upsetting memories, rather than attracting her to him.
T.
Lori Koonce
Trianna
First of all, that's a lovely name. Is it any special nationality?
Sounds Cariabeian.
Second of all, you have to realize something about the OP. His really
messed up ideas about success with women has to do someone loosing and
HIM gaining.
I really do think Ray needs a big dose of remedial "Human Relations
101" or a well annotated copy of How to Win Friends and Influence
People.
Lori
speeding
news:Xns98AC53C7F...@216.196.97.136:
>
> I personally believe that any sane woman would choose her german
> shepherd over gordy baybee...
>
> okay, that's a disgusting image but is it any more disgusting that
> picturing her with gordy?
That's kind of hard to say isn't it? After all, we have no picture of Ray
(Gordon) with anyone or anything. He could look like George Clooney for all
we know. Or, he could look like Homer Simpson.
--
You could be a Cylon and not even know it...
Lori Koonce
> > okay, that's a disgusting image but is it any more disgusting that
> > picturing her with gordy?
>
> That's kind of hard to say isn't it? After all, we have no picture of Ray
> (Gordon) with anyone or anything. He could look like George Clooney for all
> we know. Or, he could look like Homer Simpson.
>
Speeding
I've got it on good authority that I'm a sane woman....
Now, if you've done any research on Gordo's posting history you'd know
he's got a rather warped idea of women. And I'm only going by what he's
posted in places like this and alt-hypnosis.
What woman, sane or not, would be willing to put up with a guy who
calls women Cunts, Bitches and Whores; and then expects them to fall at
his feet giving him money, sex or whatever else he thinks should be
his.
Lori
speeding
news:1167775873....@s34g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
> <snipped>
>> > okay, that's a disgusting image but is it any more disgusting that
>> > picturing her with gordy?
>>
>> That's kind of hard to say isn't it? After all, we have no picture of
>> Ray (Gordon) with anyone or anything. He could look like George
>> Clooney for all we know. Or, he could look like Homer Simpson.
>>
>
> Speeding
>
> I've got it on good authority that I'm a sane woman....
I'll accept that. :P
One of my buttons... "It's better to be crazy and know it than be sane
and doubt it!"
> Now, if you've done any research on Gordo's posting history you'd know
> he's got a rather warped idea of women. And I'm only going by what
> he's posted in places like this and alt-hypnosis.
Women? I wouldn't be so limiting. But yes.
> What woman, sane or not, would be willing to put up with a guy who
> calls women Cunts, Bitches and Whores; and then expects them to fall
> at his feet giving him money, sex or whatever else he thinks should be
> his.
I doubt any, then again, I hear about women all the time that stay with
guys that beat them mercilessly. Maury loves to do the shows of women
that got all kinds of tore up. So, there might be some gal outthere
somewhere.
But, it's not about his attitute. It's his looks that were questioned. I
merely pointed out that we can't really say he's ugly because we haven't
seen a photo of him with a woman... or even a cardboard cutout... yet.
> Lori
Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"
--
Ray Gordon, Author
The OFFICIAL Ray Gordon Blog:
http://moderncaveman.typepad.com
"Lori Koonce" <purple...@excite.com> wrote in message
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Alex
creator of the "pivot" at r...@cybersheet.com wrote on 1/2/07 8:05 AM:
>>> The idea is to anchor it to her thoughts of the "fun" PUA the next time
>>> one
>>> of these losers runs game on her.
>>>
>>
>> If only Gordon knew how.
>
> More than an MTLR slut-fucking pussy like Alex will ever know, that's for
> sure.
>
>> Once he learned that, then he'd just need a complete personality
>> transplant
>> to get to talk to a woman long enough to do it.
>
> Alex thinks he's cool when he talks like that, as if his failed marriage and
> MLTR with slut trash were some type of cred.
>
> If you want to be a verbally abusive coward like Alex, who couldn't even
> stay married, and who fucks women who let their men fuck other women (i.e.,
> slut trash/MLTR), then by all means, take his advice.
I've struck a nerve.
Can't imagine why.
Alex
creator of the "pivot" at r...@cybersheet.com wrote on 1/2/07 8:08 AM:
>>> This is a good pattern (specific pattern language omitted)
>>
>> Probably because Gordon's ability to comprehend words is famously lacking.
>
> Actually, it's not. Alex just has this incessant need to flame and is
> famously lacking in his debate skills.
You have a history of not understanding what you read.
I'll put my reading comprehension up against yours anyday.
>
>
>>> for when a hottie
>>> wants to dump her problems about the "jerk" she just "dumped" on you,
>>> since
>>> it pretty much destroys the "therapist frame."
>>
>> Actually, it doesn't.
>
> Actually, it does.
More third-grade debate skills from Gordon.
>
>
>> Someone who's been in therapy (and understands how to comprehend English)
>> would know why it doesn't.
>
> I wouldn't know about Alex's therapy history, but avoiding the "therapist
> frame" is basic PU theory.
>
> At least to men who understand PU it is.
And you avoided my point nicely, which was that this does NOT destroy the
"therapist frame," in fact many therapists would ask that exact question.
>
>
>>> The PUA's greatest weakness is that he's a CHEATER at heart. It's up to
>>> the
>>> rAFC not to let him get away with this.
>>
>> Jealousy that other men can get multiple women while you get none is not
>> rAFC.
>
> Alex is confused: first, I get women, and second, I don't count MLTR slut
> trash as conquests, so on his scorecard, he's the one with the zero.
>
Internet props!
And why does it matter if my refrigerator doesn't have YOUR favorite food?
Lori Koonce
> > What woman, sane or not, would be willing to put up with a guy who
> > calls women Cunts, Bitches and Whores; and then expects them to fall
> > at his feet giving him money, sex or whatever else he thinks should be
> > his.
>
> I doubt any, then again, I hear about women all the time that stay with
> guys that beat them mercilessly. Maury loves to do the shows of women
> that got all kinds of tore up. So, there might be some gal outthere
> somewhere.
Hon, that has more to do with ratings than actual women. How long do
you think Maury would have been on if he didn't keep up with the rest
of the talk show crowd by doing more outrageous and sensational
shit than the competition
> But, it's not about his attitute. It's his looks that were questioned. I
> merely pointed out that we can't really say he's ugly because we haven't
> seen a photo of him with a woman... or even a cardboard cutout... yet.
Speeding, I don't care if ya got Bill Gates money, George Cloony's
looks and a better Car collection than Harrah's, if you come across
with Ray's attitude you aren't gonna get anywhere. Looks are important,
but from this woman's POV, they don't amount to a hill of beans if you
don't back them up with some substance. Like an attitude that lets me
know you genuinely like women for one thing.
Lori
Krus T. Olfard
>> But, it's not about his attitute. It's his looks that were questioned.
I
>> merely pointed out that we can't really say he's ugly because we
haven't
>> seen a photo of him with a woman... or even a cardboard cutout... yet.
>
>
but we have seen a very old photo of the loser with the weird thing on
his upper lip...
Krus T. Olfard
>> >his idea of success with women is simply to cockblock some other
dude.
>>
>> Sounds like Odiot is the one trying to COCKBLOCK here.
>>
>
was this really gordon trying to accuse someone of trying to cockblock
him?
wotta fuckin' loon - his own personality will cockblock him every time,
no one has to do it for him - he is self-sufficient that way...
and it's probably about the only way that gordon is self-sufficient...
Thom E. Geiger
\"pivot\"" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote:
>Says an awful lot about Odiot, that's for sure.
Well, Gordon Roy Gump, what says a lot about you? Shit, don't even get
me started.
Thom E. Geiger, Domain Name Owner
ChewOnThis.Org
(the Official GRP NewsLoon tracking website)
Ray-Gordon.com
Ray-Gordon.net
Newsloon.com
Don't buy anything from any business trying to use SLAPP lawsuits to
stop criticism of the company, owners, officers or products.
Guido Gump Parker blames a baseball bat death threat on his own mother, Penny "Skull Crusher" Parker:
>The "baseball bat" remark was made by my mom in response to a gymnastics
>groupie who harassed half of the national team, with help from several chat
>hosts and gymnastics coaches and hackers.
HeeroYuy
> noted.
Since Gordon does not understand the true meaning of metaphors, he is hereby
disqualified from ever using "white on rice" again.
speeding
>> > What woman, sane or not, would be willing to put up with a guy who
>> > calls women Cunts, Bitches and Whores; and then expects them to fall
>> > at his feet giving him money, sex or whatever else he thinks should
be
>> > his.
>>
>> I doubt any, then again, I hear about women all the time that stay
with
>> guys that beat them mercilessly. Maury loves to do the shows of women
>> that got all kinds of tore up. So, there might be some gal outthere
>> somewhere.
>
> Hon, that has more to do with ratings than actual women. How long do
> you think Maury would have been on if he didn't keep up with the rest
> of the talk show crowd by doing more outrageous and sensational
> shit than the competition
Of course, but it doesn't discount the fact that there are more than a
few (far too many) women out there that will tolerate living with a wife
beater. Sometimes until the get the strength to leave.. sometimes, sadly,
until they die.
>> But, it's not about his attitute. It's his looks that were questioned.
I
>> merely pointed out that we can't really say he's ugly because we
haven't
>> seen a photo of him with a woman... or even a cardboard cutout... yet.
>
> Speeding, I don't care if ya got Bill Gates money, George Cloony's
> looks and a better Car collection than Harrah's, if you come across
> with Ray's attitude you aren't gonna get anywhere. Looks are important,
> but from this woman's POV, they don't amount to a hill of beans if you
> don't back them up with some substance. Like an attitude that lets me
> know you genuinely like women for one thing.
I agree completely. I was only pointing out that we can't really say what
Gordon looks like, because he's never posted a photo. Just as we can't
know for certain that he's broke, because he claims to be broke sometimes
and others claims to be selling his crap like hotcakes.
Being mentally imbalance, can you really believe ANYTHING Ray says? Even
when it's a negative towards himself.
speeding
216.196.97.136:
> "Lori Koonce" <purple...@excite.com> wrote in
> news:1167782448.0...@k21g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>
>>> But, it's not about his attitute. It's his looks that were questioned.
> I
>>> merely pointed out that we can't really say he's ugly because we
> haven't
>>> seen a photo of him with a woman... or even a cardboard cutout... yet.
>>
>>
>
> but we have seen a very old photo of the loser with the weird thing on
> his upper lip...
SERIOUSLY here... is that *really* Ray?
Lori Koonce
<unnessary stuff snipped>
> Of course, but it doesn't discount the fact that there are more than a
> few (far too many) women out there that will tolerate living with a wife
> beater. Sometimes until the get the strength to leave.. sometimes, sadly,
> until they die.
Or their abusers die.
But this isn't the place for me to explain to you aobut my expirences
with that topic. The email attached to this account works, and if you'd
like a bit more 411 on that aspect of female mental state, I'm mor than
willing to talk to you about it.
Lori