eye contact science: hiding pupil dilation IOI
Maximillian
stuff there, thanks for the cite, Will.
I was intrigued by how the pupils dilate when one is attracted to someone. I am
realizing that I was probably thus giving the game away when I sarged. This is
going to be tough to hide for those of us who are RAFC--I am thinking I better
try to go for a heavy lidded sensuality, or a Clint Eastwood squint. Does anyone
else have any tips on hiding one’s dilated pupils to avoid seeming too into a
chyck? Besides of course working on your internal state.
Also, there is a mention of how avoiding blinking is important to projecting a
masculine presence.
--Max
wayne rasmussen
Maximillian wrote:
would you try to hide your erection???
anon11
this. as long as u don't start to flutter ur eyelashes and shit.
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Fatass
wrote:
>Will T. Power was recommending the book Eye to Eye, I have found some very good
>stuff there, thanks for the cite, Will.
>
>I was intrigued by how the pupils dilate when one is attracted to someone. I am
>realizing that I was probably thus giving the game away when I sarged. This is
>going to be tough to hide for those of us who are RAFC--I am thinking I better
>try to go for a heavy lidded sensuality, or a Clint Eastwood squint. Does anyone
>else have any tips on hiding one’s dilated pupils to avoid seeming too into a
>chyck? Besides of course working on your internal state.
What, do you want to look like you're dead? States of arousal are
contagious.
>Also, there is a mention of how avoiding blinking is important to projecting a
>masculine presence.
Excessive blinking can make you appear frightened. Normal blinking
can make you appear -- well, normal. ;-)
>
>--Max
>
>
emcgizmo
> realizing that I was probably thus giving the game away when I sarged. This is
> going to be tough to hide for those of us who are RAFC--I am thinking I better
> try to go for a heavy lidded sensuality, or a Clint Eastwood squint.
most attractive feature. Clint Eastwood portrayed action heroes
appealing mostly to 15-30 year old MALES. If you are going to pick a
movie example, pick one form one the "chick flicks" out there.
> Does anyone
> else have any tips on hiding one’s dilated pupils to avoid seeming too into a
> chyck? Besides of course working on your internal state.
Try yawning if you want to not seem interested. It's a lot easier.
Seriously I would do the opposite and try getting some of those eye
drops optometrists use to dilate the pupils for eye exams. Victorian
chicks used the herb belladonna(word from Latin for beautiful woman)
to dilate their pupils to attract men. Make sure to do your sarging
indoors since the squinting can be brutal. Eye drops will have women
staring at your eyes regardless of your state of mind.
This idea needs some experimentation. Has anyone tried sarging with
pupil dilation drops? Please report on your results.
>
> Also, there is a mention of how avoiding blinking is important to projecting a
> masculine presence.
>
Try it. Often your physical action will change your state of mind. It
may be a key to feeling masculine inside.
Maximillian
>I was probably thus giving the game away when I sarged.
>
>What, do you want to look like you're dead? States of arousal are
>contagious.
You want to appear unimpressed by the HB, particularly on the initial bombing
run. I am not sure how contagious those states are: if that was the case AFCs,
with their blatant admiration of the target, would be able to make them go DDB
easily.
I am certain that my eye dilation is telegraphing my internal state. My voice
and body language game is confident. Eye dilation is tough to control. Besides
working on my internal state, the best solution I have been able to come up with
so far is to keep my eyes moderately hooded (not too much of course, that would
be too much of an SOI). Perhaps this is why the "heavy-lidded seducer" is such a
stereotype. He is making eye contact, but keeping his desire somewhat veiled,
thus creating scarcity.
>
>>Also, there is a mention of how avoiding blinking is important to projecting a
>>masculine presence.
>
>Excessive blinking can make you appear frightened. Normal blinking
>can make you appear -- well, normal. ;-)
>
I dont want to look "normal" I want to look like an alpha. You're on the right
track however. The last thing you want to do is blink alot.
--Max
Fatass
wrote:
>You want to appear unimpressed by the HB, particularly on the initial bombing
>run. I am not sure how contagious those states are: if that was the case AFCs,
>with their blatant admiration of the target, would be able to make them go DDB
>easily.
But she doesn't know what you're excited ABOUT. It could be the
painting you added to your collection today; could be the deal you
closed at work; could be this beautiful, glorious, fascinating,
exciting life that you lead. She doesn't know, and if you get her
shield down you'll infect her with your enthusiasm.
Fuck, you could even be excited about this incredible, fantastic story
you just heard on the radio about ELVIS.... Did you know what color
-- ? :-))
>
>I am certain that my eye dilation is telegraphing my internal state. My voice
>and body language game is confident. Eye dilation is tough to control.
Remember: dilation only says AROUSAL. It could come from fear, sexual
excitation, drugs, sheer exultation at being alive, or a hundred other
things. Be congruent; allow her to see something in you that will
explain your arousal in terms that will attract her.
If you want to practice controlling something, control your eyelids.
>Besides
>working on my internal state, the best solution I have been able to come up with
>so far is to keep my eyes moderately hooded (not too much of course, that would
>be too much of an SOI).
Just keeping them relaxed is fine.
Maximillian
excited about. But you've hit on a possible smokescreen: talk up the art, or
Elvis, anything to get her to thing that that look in your eyes has nothing to
do with her. Possible but tricky, I've seen guys try to do it before and crash
and burn.
Simplex
obvious.
Otherwise, the pupil is your friend, when her subconcious mind sees
dilated pupils, it actually somehow triggers attraction within HER.
It makes sense, we like people that like us.
This is just a little fact I picked up from a website
(http://www.askmen.com/dating/datingadvice/dating17b.html ), not sure
how true it is, but it makes sense.
In most media industries (fashion for ex.) The focus is on EYES
(pictures etc) and if you look carefully you'll notice that most of
the time the pupils on the models are somewhat dilated, despite the
direct light shineing in their eyes. It's a trick that makes them seem
more attractive.
So unless you worry about this increadiably (over other things) then
perhaps drinking less alcohol or going to a place with brighter
lights.
But I usually think it's a good thing.
Oh by the way (not to get off topic, but just thought to mention after
crusing the site) "The Player" in the askmen site has some pretty
intersting articles, hehehe... (www.askmen.com)
Gauss
>I was intrigued by how the pupils dilate when one is attracted to someone. I am
>realizing that I was probably thus giving the game away when I sarged. This is
>going to be tough to hide for those of us who are RAFC--I am thinking I better
There's some things you can and should hide (like AFC attitudes,
supplication, etc.) and there's some things you shouldn't bother with. Pupil
dilation is one of them. Pupil dilation happens naturally and you really
can't do much about it... if you go into a darker room you're gonna dilate
whether you like it or not. Besides, pupil dilation is not something you're
going to get busted over: do you really thing an HB is going to be looking
at you with a pupil gage and accuse you of trying to pick her up?
So unless you wanna invest in some chemical to make you permanently
contract, or in some oil-spot-limp-bizkit contacts, don't bother. It's not
gonna make much of a difference anyway.
>Also, there is a mention of how avoiding blinking is important to
>projecting a masculine presence.
Blinking is also a natural process. If the environment is agressive, you'll
have to blink more, nothing unusual about it.
An interesting thing is that there's people that "talk" with their eyelids:
watch Larry King Live or Greenfield at Large and you'll see one of 'em
eventually, someone who's blinking follows the flow of the conversation.
When the conversation speeds up they blink like crazy, and all of a sudden
they pause and stop blinking at the same time. It's a form of communication
like any other, and is hardly ever perceived unless you're looking for it.
Don't worry about your blinking. Rather than being harmful to your image it
probably helps to make the conversation flow a bit easier and to make it
seem more natural than if you tried to keep your eyes wide open the whole
time.
Now, if you've got some kind of a nervous tick or some really gay eyelash
fluttering habit that's another story...
--
Gauss
Gauss
>just focus on the most unattractive part of her face.
Hell, in that case just do what a [female] friend of mine used to say when
she'd catch me gawking at some girl:
"Imagine her taking a dump"
--
Gauss
Fatass
wrote:
>When you are making a cold approach there is only one thing you can possibly be
>excited about.
Of course, of course: You know that, I know that, every guy who tries
knows that, but *SHE* doesn't know that! Remember, if you work her
bitch shield right, she doesn't know this is an approach at all.
You're just a cool fucking dude who wandered over to chat because you
happened to FEEL like it. Anything else will keep her on red alert.
>But you've hit on a possible smokescreen: talk up the art, or
>Elvis, anything to get her to thing that that look in your eyes has nothing to
>do with her. Possible but tricky, I've seen guys try to do it before and crash
>and burn.
No problem. If we don't TRY, we won't get past this shit. There's
something about seeing your fond dreams disintegrate in a haze of fear
and disappointment that really focuses the mind. :-))
psychobabble
your pupils will be 'pinned'. If you want to go sarging with dialated
pupils take LSD and they will be very dialated. If you want to stay
healthy ignore this advice.