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Outfoxing The Foxes

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Jun 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/2/99
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Some Guy Writes:

Negative hits or "Neg Hits" as they are called here, are hardly anything
new.
They have been around since the days of Marlon Brando in "The Wild One."
They have been around since the days of James Dean, the original "jerk."
There is absolutely NOTHING magical, mystical or esoteric about negative
hits.
It just a matter of simple, pure psychology. Go get a psychology book
somewhere
and read up on the "Contrast Principle" for one.
NO ONE in this ng came up with or created negative hits. They've probably
been
around since the beginning of time itself, it's just that it was only the
jerks
who got all the women who were using them. As a matter of fact I'm quite
frankly surprised that it even took THIS long for the whole concept of
"NEG
HITS" as you call them, to just recently make their appearance here
finally.

<-----Try the Foreign Fox Gimmick for the ultimate seduction weapon.
Mystery did make the negative hit more precise.

Bobby Fischer didn't invent chess either. What's your point?

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Craig

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Jun 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/2/99
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Mystery didnt teach you anything about neg hits? You are
the coolest person Ive ever heard of! How can I be down
with you? Do you have a fan club I could join? I will
start one if you dont. I think you are an amazing guy.
Imagine, someone who didnt learn anything from Mystery. Is
there anything else you didnt learn or anyone else you
didnt learn from that you could tell us about? I wish you
would post sometime, seeing as how you are probably the
world's biggest and best seducer and user of neg hits. Im
proud of you for having so much knowledge about them...You
are definitly cool...Id ask you for an autograph but since
this is an NG a reply will be enough.


If anyone else is interested in joining the BoJonn Fan Club
feel free to email me at bigst...@hotmail.com. In the
future I hope to schedule a live chat with BoJonn where he
can tell us how cool he is and how he doesnt learn anything
from this NG.

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Mal

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Jun 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/2/99
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boj...@aol.com (BoJonn) wrote :

>Negative hits or "Neg Hits" as they are called here, are hardly anything new.

In that case where were YOU !

all good and dandy saying blah, blah, blah now, years AFTER the
event !

Anyway its good that the area is more defined now and is called Neg
Hits !


Dan Scorpio

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Jun 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/2/99
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Yeah,
In the UK we call it winding up or taking the piss & it's everyday currency
over here used to take people down a peg or two - and it's not just reserved
for women. I'm not sure what the actual term for the basic mechnism is
(sarcasm?), but the behaviour has been around a long, long time:

This rudeness is sauce to his good wit;
Which gives men stomach to digest his words
With better appetite.
(Shakespeare)

I think the crux of the problem of using the so-called 'neg hit' in
seduction is to know just how far to go. It's easy to make an utterly
scathing remark about anyone - but they may find it utterly offensive and
probably react badly. The key is to make it playfully challenging (and
elicit playful behaviour). The words 'only teasing' or such can be quickly
inserted as a qualifier if you think you've gone over the top.


BoJonn wrote in message <19990602123601...@ng-fb1.aol.com>...


>Outfoxing The Foxes writes:
>
>
>>NO ONE in this ng came up with or created negative hits. They've probably
>>been
>>around since the beginning of time itself, it's just that it was only the
>>jerks
>>who got all the women who were using them. As a matter of fact I'm quite
>>frankly surprised that it even took THIS long for the whole concept of
>>"NEG
>>HITS" as you call them, to just recently make their appearance here
>>finally.
>>
>><-----Try the Foreign Fox Gimmick for the ultimate seduction weapon.
>

>I'll have to look into that.


>
>>Mystery did make the negative hit more precise.
>

>Did he? Perhaps in some peoples opinion but not mine. Not to sound pompous,
but
>I have never read anything in any of his posts that made "Neg Hits" more
clear
>or revealed anything I hadn't already known or used in one way or another.
Also
>it is FAR better, as it is in any situation, and if you're going to do so,
to
>give people accurate descriptions and in-depth details of how and WHY
something
>works rather than just giving them canned examples of something that might
have
>worked for you in some certain situation in the past.
>Where I stand on the matter is this; I have absolutely nothing personal
against
>"mysery", but in my opinion, mysery was a fly-by-nighter and more of a
bumbling
>seduction fool than anything.
>To supply you with a "for instance" of this, would you put up a "seduction"
>website and then place audio.wav files on it of yourself FUCKING UP with
women
>rather than demonstrating any real seduction success for all of Usenet to
hear?
>Somehow that doesn't strike me as too bright, and certainly lacking in the
>demonstration of any real ability.
>It doesn't take much to put 2 and 2 together in this case.

Dan Scorpio

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Jun 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/2/99
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Neg Hits, are they are known in here, are one of the very best verbal ways
of inducing a state change. Very powerful - but they can backfire. I've used
them plenty of times on knobheads (men) and actually been threatened with
physical violence - those that have sociopathic tendencies refuse to change
state. [They absolutely writhe when you say 'What's the matter with you, you
got no fuckin sense of humour?' as a follow up.]
You can also get it with a woman if you hit too hard (she finds her friendly
gorilla and says 'that guy over there said...') so be warned. Feel your way,
don't be too heavy at first, smile as you plunge the knife in and excuse
yourself/apologise if you get an OTT reaction.
Some people will not play: 95%+ love it - so learn, and discern.

Mal wrote in message <3755ad20...@news.freeserve.co.uk>...

Craig

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Jun 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/2/99
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Too bad you dont do fan clubs...I was flooded with emails!
We cant wait for more of your wonderful posts! So guys like
Mystery and I deserve one another? I'll take that as a
compliment...Thank you Mr. BoJonn! So, in your opinion,
what kind of guys are we?

Mystery

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Jun 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/3/99
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Hey BoJonn,

A NEG (formally known as NEG HIT), both phrases being coined by myself, is
NOT new ... nor were ATOMS when discovered. NEGs are just a small portion
of the map. The map is NOT the terrain as the Borr Atom is NOT the actual
atom. It is merely a map to simplify the complexities of reality. The more
accurate the map, the better it's use. With or without E=MC2 the formula is
still latent in reality.

I have given several examples of a NEG and I stopped giving more for two
reasons: 1) people seemed to GET IT and 2) I have been in LA for the past 4
months sort of too busy to type.

I am not one to challenge people. If you dont find my posts educational, by
all means FILTER me. Was there anything I posted that you DID find
potentially educational. If so, cool. I didnt CREATE the natural use of
NEGs. I merely named the strategy for others to discuss it meaningfully.

Thanks for your opinion though because it is the skeptic that makes the
believer re-evaluate his strategies.

Mystery

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Jun 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/3/99
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my website was as I had mentioned, only an experiment. I was hoping people
would get recorders and join in an educational audio archive. The problem
with my recording I found was that since I work the loud music public
gatherings, most of my attempts were recorded badly. The only things I
COULD POST (And I posted them to learn HOW to post audio onto a webpage)
were the conversations to and from the clubs. To the clubs we talked about
the strategies and from the clubs we talked about what didnt work. I would
very much like to build it into something cool but I was in LA and didnt
have time. So yes the site is very old (again it was just a proof of
concept).

Help build a website that people can send pix and audio files - I have a
digital camera but I need the site to be password protected for privacy
reasons and only wingmen will be members who have the trusted password. The
purpose of this site is not only for education but for bragging. There is
nothing wrong with bragging IMO as they are well deserved. The bragging
proofs (pix) are not only entertaining but act as wonderful motivators to
try and get the girls.

Real ability IMO comes from seeing one perform live. I would enjoy us
getting together (no challenges) so we could watch eachother in action.
Maybe YOU can teach ME something. Im not the PU authority. Im in Toronto
and when my throat is better Im up it if you are. Ill be in LA in the near
future too so there you go.

Craig

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Jun 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/4/99
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Ok, Im bored of this thread so I will drop the sarcasm. My
bottom line is this: No one here gives a fuck what about
you DIDNT learn, but if you do have something you have
learned to contribute it is always appreciated. Congrats
about knowing about neg hits...I didnt before this NG and
Mystery has increased my success by pointing it out for
me. Im sure a lot of people knew how to approach girls
before Mystery showed us his techniques but you dont see
any of us starting dicussions entitled, "OK, I knew how to
Approach Girls Before Mystery was Here". No one cares.
Why do you try to discourage one of this groups prominent
members from sharing his wisdom with others? I knew how to
approach girls way before he came along, but I am glad he
shared his methods with the rest of us. You knew about neg
hits way before he came along, are you upset that he showed
the rest of us what they are all about? If you knew about
them years ago, then why didnt you share your knowledge
with us then? If you arent here to share knowledge and
techiniques of seducing women, then why are you here? From
what Ive seen from you it seems like your just here to
brag. Ray does enough bragging for all of us. Please
prove me wrong.
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