Assets are not skills: Self-improvement is NOT "game"
Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"
call "game" by putting the word "game" after it.
There is no "BMW Game" or "Country Club Game" or "good looks game" and so
forth. Assets are not skills.
"Game" is about scoring out of one's league, without having to go to the
longer, self-improvement route.
--
Ray Gordon, The ORIGINAL Lifestyle Seduction Guru
http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html
Includes 29 Reasons Not To Be A Nice Guy
Ray's new "Project 5000" is here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/project-5000
Don't rely on overexposed, mass-marketed commercial seduction methods which
no longer work.
Thinking of taking a seduction "workshiop?" Read THIS:
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Beware! VH-1's "The Pickup Artst" was FRAUDULENT. Six of the eight
contestants were actors, and they used PAID TARGETS in the club. The paid
targets got mad when VH-1 said "there are no actors in this club" and ruined
their prromised acting credit. What else has Mystery lied about?
dman
<r...@cybersheet.com> wrote:
> It's a totally different arena, one many "seduction gurus" think they can
> call "game" by putting the word "game" after it.
>
> There is no "BMW Game" or "Country Club Game" or "good looks game" and so
> forth. Assets are not skills.
>
> "Game" is about scoring out of one's league, without having to go to the
> longer, self-improvement route.
>
thanks for the explaining the reason why you have never bothered to
improve yourself, rather you seem to prefer declining
Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"
>> forth. Assets are not skills.
>>
>> "Game" is about scoring out of one's league, without having to go to the
>> longer, self-improvement route.
>>
>
> thanks for the explaining the reason why you have never bothered to
> improve yourself, rather you seem to prefer declining
Posts like that don't deserve logical responses, but I'll provide one
nonetheless. The previous poster is also acting quite beta by putting down
other men, seen by super-hot women as him not having much to offer in the
positive. HB9s and HB10s don't let one man diss another to them because it
happens all the time, though an :"HB6" (formerly UG6 before the community
got too big) might tolerate it.
"Dman" has no clue about my life, my lifestyle or anything beyond the posts
he reads. He gets many of his facts wrong, as do many out here, and it's
not my job to perpetually invade my own privacy by correcting his lies more
than once.
The point of "game" is exactly that: what "Dman" calls a "decline" is
measured by one's results with women, yet if one is getting those results
with game rather than assets, he has accomplished the purpose of the assets
without having to invest the time, and is actually improved.
When one ages, their reduced results are inevitable, even if they are rich.
This is a young man's game, plain and simple.
On another note, the women I teach the theory to for them to stop a PUA
never demand in-field demonstrations beyond showing them the techniques, and
since what I show them has already been used on them, my cred is established
without having to rig the field as many gurus do.
Vance
I know what you are trying to say and, in a limited way, you're
right. However, in your black and white world, you've missed
something.
I'm a pretty good photographer. I'm naturally talented at it, always
have been. That's an asset. I wouldn't be as good a photographer as
I am if I hadn't worked at it and I still work at it. If I had just
remained with talent, almost anyone who put the time and effort into
becoming a good photographer would be better than I am. It's the same
thing with seduction. Good looks and money are positives. There is
no arguement about that, but the truth is they will only get you so
far and in a very limited way. That's the way it is in life. There
are a lot of mearly talented people out there who get no where because
they think that is all it takes. Why do you think that sports stars,
the ones with extreme talent, practice as hard as they do?
On the other hand, self improvement and the transformation that comes
with it makes good looks and money unnecessary and, in combination
with 'assets', are devestating.
You are proof of both points. You have no assets, so you can't 'play'
that way. Self improvement isn't possible for you, so you can't
transform yourself to the point where someone wants to play the 'game'
with you.
Seduction using only assets is like fishing using only bait. You can
only catch the fish that swallow the bait completely and hold on.
Seduction as self transformation is like adding the hook that allows
you to get the nibblers, the let's chew on this for awhile and I'll
just take half of it fish. And, you have the advantage of being able
to fish for what you want.
Assets are great, skill is better and nothing beats dumb luck!
Have a nice day, Ray.
Hugs and Cheese,
Vance
On Feb 16, 5:58 pm, "Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\""
Vance
It must be hard to avoid the reality that your position is simply your
coming to grips with the 'reduced' expectations your life imposes on
you. Thank God, you can do it. And people think mental illness has
no advantages. Anybody else would think 'Maybe I need to change
something.'
Go for it, Ray.
dman
<r...@cybersheet.com> wrote:
> >> There is no "BMW Game" or "Country Club Game" or "good looks game" and so
> >> forth. Assets are not skills.
>
> >> "Game" is about scoring out of one's league, without having to go to the
> >> longer, self-improvement route.
>
> > thanks for the explaining the reason why you have never bothered to
> > improve yourself, rather you seem to prefer declining
>
> Posts like that don't deserve logical responses, but I'll provide one
> nonetheless. The previous poster is also acting quite beta by putting down
> other men,
men?!?! no, sorry. It is just you.
> seen by super-hot women as him not having much to offer in the
> positive. HB9s and HB10s don't let one man diss another to them because it
> happens all the time, though an :"HB6" (formerly UG6 before the community
> got too big) might tolerate it.
pffft, you do realise not everybody believes in these ratings?
I personally say there are only two ratings:
0 or 1
(would fuck or not fuck)
>
> "Dman" has no clue about my life, my lifestyle or anything beyond the posts
> he reads. He gets many of his facts wrong, as do many out here, and it's
> not my job to perpetually invade my own privacy by correcting his lies more
> than once.
>
> The point of "game" is exactly that: what "Dman" calls a "decline" is
> measured by one's results with women, yet if one is getting those results
> with game rather than assets, he has accomplished the purpose of the assets
> without having to invest the time, and is actually improved.
>
> When one ages, their reduced results are inevitable, even if they are rich.
> This is a young man's game, plain and simple.
>
> On another note, the women I teach the theory to for them to stop a PUA
> never demand in-field demonstrations beyond showing them the techniques, and
> since what I show them has already been used on them, my cred is established
> without having to rig the field as many gurus do.
>
> --
> Ray Gordon, The ORIGINAL Lifestyle Seduction Guruhttp://www.cybersheet.com/library.html
corky
"Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote in message
news:rfadnc9FEu5MCSra...@pghconnect.com...
> It's a totally different arena, one many "seduction gurus" think they can
> call "game" by putting the word "game" after it.
>
> There is no "BMW Game" or "Country Club Game" or "good looks game" and so
> forth. Assets are not skills.
Is there any "Newsloon lives with mommy Game"?
fake...@gmail.com
> It's a totally different arena, one many "seduction gurus" think they can
> call "game" by putting the word "game" after it.
>
> There is no "BMW Game" or "Country Club Game" or "good looks game" and so
> forth. Assets are not skills.
>
> "Game" is about scoring out of one's league, without having to go to the
> longer, self-improvement route.
Say, Gorgon. Does waxing your mom's back every Saturday night really
impress the HBs?
raygordon
But I have this "ethical" thing going, so I would never perform an
illegal act nor would I ever encourage one. But let's just say I understand
why guys like OJ do what they do.
Alex
creator of the "pivot" at r...@cybersheet.com wrote on 2/16/08 8:58 PM:
> It's a totally different arena, one many "seduction gurus" think they can
> call "game" by putting the word "game" after it.
>
> There is no "BMW Game" or "Country Club Game" or "good looks game" and so
> forth. Assets are not skills.
>
> "Game" is about scoring out of one's league, without having to go to the
> longer, self-improvement route.
>
Who died and left you arbiter of anything?
Grandiosity is a bitch, fr00t l00p.
How long until you crash and threaten suicide again?
Alex
creator of the "pivot" at r...@cybersheet.com wrote on 2/16/08 10:57 PM:
>>> There is no "BMW Game" or "Country Club Game" or "good looks game" and so
>>> forth. Assets are not skills.
>>>
>>> "Game" is about scoring out of one's league, without having to go to the
>>> longer, self-improvement route.
>>>
>>
>> thanks for the explaining the reason why you have never bothered to
>> improve yourself, rather you seem to prefer declining
>
> Posts like that don't deserve logical responses, but I'll provide one
> nonetheless.
You wouldn't know logic is it came up and introduced itself to you.
> The previous poster is also acting quite beta by putting down
> other men, seen by super-hot women as him not having much to offer in the
> positive. HB9s and HB10s don't let one man diss another to them because it
> happens all the time, though an :"HB6" (formerly UG6 before the community
> got too big) might tolerate it.
Calling an idiot an idiot isn't beta behavior.
Being a fr00t l00p, however...
>
> "Dman" has no clue about my life, my lifestyle or anything beyond the posts
> he reads. He gets many of his facts wrong, as do many out here, and it's
> not my job to perpetually invade my own privacy by correcting his lies more
> than once.
Considering posting to USENET IS your life, I think we're all capable of
drawing our own conclusions.
>
> The point of "game" is exactly that: what "Dman" calls a "decline" is
> measured by one's results with women, yet if one is getting those results
> with game rather than assets, he has accomplished the purpose of the assets
> without having to invest the time, and is actually improved.
Chatting with gay men pretending to be women over AIM isn't game either,
fr00t l00p.
>
> When one ages, their reduced results are inevitable, even if they are rich.
> This is a young man's game, plain and simple.
Excuses, excuses.
I'm 41 and others here are older. We're all doing just fine.
You want to use age as an excuse? Too bad, fr00t l00p.
You're as full of shit as ever.
>
> On another note, the women I teach the theory to for them to stop a PUA
> never demand in-field demonstrations beyond showing them the techniques, and
> since what I show them has already been used on them, my cred is established
> without having to rig the field as many gurus do.
>
Yeah, your internet cred is spectacular, fr00t l00p.
You think you're the only one who goes online pretending to be a woman?
corky
<Ray Gordon>; "creator of the "pivot"" <rayg...@cybersheep.com> wrote in
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Well said, GRPie, creator of the Pivot and sig spammer. You are one sick
motherfucker.
Krus T. Olfard
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>
> But I have this "ethical" thing going, so I would never perform an
> illegal act nor would I ever encourage one. But let's just say I
> understand why guys like OJ do what they do.
>
Rabid woman-hating spew commented on so that the header information will
ALWAYS be available even if the original is nuked.
--
I'm an opinionated bastard. Everything I post is my opinion. If you do
not like my opinions then killfile me - if you like my opinions then send
me money.
The KTO Dictionary of Subjective Language
Tard: n Someone whose actions/words make her/him look like an idiot in
public but s/he is too disconnected to reality to realize it.
Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"
(which itself is defamatory since I didn't author the post). It's also
anonymous harassment, which is a felony.
Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"
Said the boy who didn't bother to read headers. Mistaken identity isn't a
defense against your defamation of me.
Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"
> ALWAYS be available even if the original is nuked.
The header information that proves an imposter posted it? Well that covers
the "actual malice" defamation requirement.
Hope the guys ready to spend thousands on gurus these boys recommend to them
are paying attention to the type of behavior they are learning.
Alex
creator of the "pivot" at r...@cybersheet.com wrote on 2/17/08 9:02 PM:
> The previous poster was impersonating me, including signing his name as me
> (which itself is defamatory since I didn't author the post). It's also
> anonymous harassment, which is a felony.
>
You claiming the words that were re-posted aren't yours?
Alex
creator of the "pivot" at r...@cybersheet.com wrote on 2/17/08 9:04 PM:
>> You are one sick motherfucker.
>
> Said the boy who didn't bother to read headers. Mistaken identity isn't a
> defense against your defamation of me.
>
You have been repeatedly told by Federal Judges that your definition of
defamation is NOT the one recognized by the legal community.
Get over yourself, fr00t l00p.
Alex
creator of the "pivot" at r...@cybersheet.com wrote on 2/17/08 9:05 PM:
>> Rabid woman-hating spew commented on so that the header information will
>> ALWAYS be available even if the original is nuked.
>
> The header information that proves an imposter posted it? Well that covers
> the "actual malice" defamation requirement.
>
> Hope the guys ready to spend thousands on gurus these boys recommend to them
> are paying attention to the type of behavior they are learning.
Are you claiming the words that were re-posted were not yours?
Ted E Bear
"Ray Gordon, who is not really Ray Gordon" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote in
message news:4qKdnXMzMbTfeiXa...@pghconnect.com...
> The previous poster was impersonating me, including signing his name as me
> (which itself is defamatory since I didn't author the post). It's also
> anonymous harassment, which is a felony.
>
you don't. Don't let your virtual pseudonym get your real life ass in
trouble with the Courts. It's not illegal to defame a pseudonym, and for
that matter you are just as much of an impersonator of Ray Gordon as he is.
You do remember that's not your name don't you? What makes your use of that
name more legal than anyone else that uses it?
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Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"
>> me
>> (which itself is defamatory since I didn't author the post). It's also
>> anonymous harassment, which is a felony.
>>
>
> You claiming the words that were re-posted aren't yours?
Alex asks an irrelevant question, though the burden of proof isn't on me
anyway. I've been impersonated a lot online over the last decade.
What IS relevant is that someone impersonated me when posting, a form of
anonymous harassment and identity theft.
Alex
creator of the "pivot" at r...@cybersheet.com wrote on 2/17/08 9:34 PM:
>>> The previous poster was impersonating me, including signing his name as
>>> me
>>> (which itself is defamatory since I didn't author the post). It's also
>>> anonymous harassment, which is a felony.
>>>
>>
>> You claiming the words that were re-posted aren't yours?
>
> Alex asks an irrelevant question, though the burden of proof isn't on me
> anyway. I've been impersonated a lot online over the last decade.
So that's a yes, they were your words?
>
> What IS relevant is that someone impersonated me when posting, a form of
> anonymous harassment and identity theft.
>
Someone impersonated Ray Gordon.
Last time I checked, that wasn't your name.
HC
>
> What IS relevant is that someone impersonated me when posting, a form of
> anonymous harassment and identity theft.
>
What's even MORE relevant you fucking FR00T L00P is that there's not a
fucking thing yuo can do about.
fake...@gmail.com
> The previous poster was impersonating me, including signing his name as me
> (which itself is defamatory since I didn't author the post). It's also
> anonymous harassment, which is a felony.
>
Hmm. That sounds serious, amatuer lol-yer!
Have you notified Ray Gordon, the British author of erotica, who's
name and Internet search identity you have assumed here in the States?
Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"
> (which itself is defamatory since I didn't author the post). It's also
> anonymous harassment, which is a felony.
>
> Hmm. That sounds serious,
It is. Just ask the chess federation.
fake...@gmail.com
> It is. Just ask the chess federation.
Uh, sure, little man.
dman
<r...@cybersheet.com> wrote:
> > Rabid woman-hating spew commented on so that the header information will
> > ALWAYS be available even if the original is nuked.
>
> The header information that proves an imposter posted it? Well that covers
> the "actual malice" defamation requirement.
>
> Hope the guys ready to spend thousands on gurus these boys recommend to them
> are paying attention to the type of behavior they are learning.
>
what guys?!?!?!
if there are any... please post and say hi! :)
Krus T. Olfard
whined:
>> Rabid woman-hating spew commented on so that the header information
>> will ALWAYS be available even if the original is nuked.
>
> The header information that proves an imposter posted it? Well that
> covers the "actual malice" defamation requirement.
>
> Hope the guys ready to spend thousands on gurus these boys recommend
> to them are paying attention to the type of behavior they are
> learning.
>
And somehow you failed to read for content enough to notice that I never
said that you, the gordy loser, made the post?
Not surprising. Reading for content is a skill that you sadly lack.
If you had looked carefully you would have seen that unlike almost every
other time I respond to your drivel I did NOT edit the poster info.
Krus T. Olfard
news:4qKdnXMzMbTfeiXa...@pghconnect.com:
> The previous poster was impersonating me, including signing his name
> as me (which itself is defamatory since I didn't author the post).
> It's also anonymous harassment, which is a felony.
>
>
A "legal notice" posted to a usenet group?
Damn, gordy roy, legal loser, you are going off into the ozone again.
There is NOTHING 'legal' about a 'legal notice' posted to a usenet
newsgroup.
you, you legal tard, are posting using the name of someone else so you
whining that someone posted using the name that you use is pretty
stupid... like so much that you do...
And more than one judge has indicated that you don't know shit about what
legally constitutes 'harassment'... they may have said it nicer but that
is what they said...
It's that guy again...
Ray Gordon Said:
>(which itself is defamatory since I didn't author the post)
But Gordon Roy Parker forgot:
---- Proof of Gordon Roy Parker stating women deserve to be raped & murdered :
>>From: r____a__...@juno.com (Outfoxing The Foxes)
>>Subject: Re: Need A Piece Of Advice
>>Date: 1998/11/02
>>Message-ID: <19981102.144604.2648...@juno.com>
>>Organization: mail...@nym.alias.net
>>Mail-To-News-Contact: postm...@nym.alias.net
>>X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,3-5,10-14,23-29,32-45,47-50,55-58,60-61,74-77,
>>79-87,95-97,99-102,105-112,121-122,130-131,138-139,146-147,
>>156-157,160-161,163-164,181-182,196-197,199
>>Newsgroups: alt.romance
>>Look at the way women treat "losers" and you will see
>>why they wind up beaten, murdered, raped, robbed, disrespected, and
>>oppressed. It is because women DESERVE it. The ones who harmed me
>>should thank their lucky stars that I didn't react like a primate and
>>just dump them six feet underground. Unfortunately, premeditated murder
>>would ruin this ethical thing I have going for me, although on a primal
>>level it is quite appealing.
fake...@gmail.com
> Ray Gordon Said:
>
> >(which itself is defamatory since I didn't author the post)
>
> But Gordon Roy Parker forgot:
>
> ---- Proof of Gordon Roy Parker stating women deserve to be raped & murdered :
>
> >>Subject: Re: Need A Piece Of Advice
> >>Date: 1998/11/02
> >>Message-ID: <19981102.144604.26486.3.r____a___y_gor...@juno.com>
> >>Organization: mail2n...@nym.alias.net
> >>Mail-To-News-Contact: postmas...@nym.alias.net
> >>X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,3-5,10-14,23-29,32-45,47-50,55-58,60-61,74-77,
> >>79-87,95-97,99-102,105-112,121-122,130-131,138-139,146-147,
> >>156-157,160-161,163-164,181-182,196-197,199
> >>Newsgroups: alt.romance
> >>Look at the way women treat "losers" and you will see
> >>why they wind up beaten, murdered, raped, robbed, disrespected, and
> >>oppressed. It is because women DESERVE it. The ones who harmed me
> >>should thank their lucky stars that I didn't react like a primate and
> >>just dump them six feet underground. Unfortunately, premeditated murder
> >>would ruin this ethical thing I have going for me, although on a primal
> >>level it is quite appealing.
What a freakazoid that Gorgon is. And in alt.romance, no less. Yeah,
Gorgon, that's *real* alpha behavior: threatening to "dump them 6 ft.
underground"
You're a real fuckin' man's man, ain't ya?
It's that guy again...
>What a freakazoid that Gorgon is. And in alt.romance, no less. Yeah,
>Gorgon, that's *real* alpha behavior: threatening to "dump them 6 ft.
>underground"
You think all that is bad? His posts and chat logs concerning children,
or "..sexual performers.." as he calls them, are even worse. He has over
a decade of hate posts, words concerning minors (some as young a 5 or 6),
their parents, the innocent victims of 9/11, etc etc etc etc just make up
the sick loser that is Gordon Roy "..if it were legal, I'd.." Parker.
ADD to all that, his faggot dreams of wanting to kill himself while pretending
to be a woman (he even would SUE to have the right to do so), his belief that
women are "..cunts and whores..", strippers should be seduced with prawns, and
THEN, be denied them, and that his having herpes "..improves his 'game'. He wants
to be paid a "..gazillion $.." in "..hot, young women.." because he can't get a
job. His failure to get a job in the Twin Towers is why he says the "..C n W.."
on 9/11 "..deserved to die.." because they are "..trader trash.." who "..denied.."
him the chance to "..die amongst them..". This is only a sample of his sickness(s).
..add to that, a "..fuckin' judge.." in a "..fuckin court.." (as he calls them)
called him an "..inexcusable failure..". At his age, he does not drive, and
will NOT explain why (Fuz's PI found out why), he is afraid to fly, hates the
bus, and does not trust trains. He lives alone with his mommie and, um, 'hellen'.
>You're a real fuckin' man's man, ain't ya?
But Gordon doesn't want to be a man..he wants to be a woman..then kill himself.
BTW, Parker..how's that suicide thing going..??. Any luck yet..?
JJTj
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> Date: 20 Feb 2001 00:04:52 GMT
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>
>
> I go online as a female secretary looking for work again.
>
>
> Idiot lawyer solicits me for a job.
>
>
> Gives me his REAL name.
>
>
> His pic.
>
>
> The name of his firm.
>
>
> The name of the previous secretary he "wore out" before firing her.
>
>
> And a TON of other evidence which I could EASILY use to verify his
> identity.
>
>
> I thought about all the "Defenders of women" and how SILENT they'd be
> EVEN IF I posted all the evidence here.
>
>
> Never mind that he SOLICITED A PROSTITUTE in addition to
> discriminating.
>
>
> This is a very good-looking man. Very successful.
>
>
> What you folks would call a "winner."
>
>
> I wonder what God would call him?
>
>
> Of course, people would STILL say it's MY attitude, even in the face
> of evidence like this.
>
>
> Nothing makes me suicidal more quickly than to see this up front.
>
>
> I believe suicide should be a fundamental legal right.
>
>
> Suicide on demand.
>
>
> My body, my choice.
>
>
> A lawsuit can make that a reality. If I win, EVERY person gets the
> right to end their lives at any time for any reason.
>
>
> I think of all the neurotic women who would go off the deep end at
> some point under that law and how the gene pool would self-cleanse so
> quickly.
>
>
> I do have pity for the people who know these truths and ignore them,
> and what God will do to them for trying to blame me and for ignoring
> what happens to "women" while pretending to be their defenders.
>
>
> DISCLAIMER: I left USENET but have returned as "one-way Ray." I post
> but refuse to respond to people who can't handle truth about women and
> who feel compelled to lie about me.
>
Ted E Bear
"Ray Gordon, internet blow hard" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote in message
news:4N6dnaT3R6msviTa...@pghconnect.com...
>> The previous poster was impersonating me, including signing his name as
>> me
>> (which itself is defamatory since I didn't author the post). It's also
>> anonymous harassment, which is a felony.
>>
>
>> Hmm. That sounds serious,
>
> It is. Just ask the chess federation.
>
lawsuit as an example, and leave the Pie in the Sky stuff to fantasy land
where it belongs?
Ted E Bear
"Ray Gordon, Windbag and serial Pontificator" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote in
message news:LtSdnWVJEJxRcyXa...@pghconnect.com...
>>> The previous poster was impersonating me, including signing his name as
>>> me
>>> (which itself is defamatory since I didn't author the post). It's also
>>> anonymous harassment, which is a felony.
>>>
>>
>> You claiming the words that were re-posted aren't yours?
>
> Alex asks an irrelevant question, though the burden of proof isn't on me
> anyway. I've been impersonated a lot online over the last decade.
>
> What IS relevant is that someone impersonated me when posting, a form of
> anonymous harassment and identity theft.
>
identity theft. You need to just change your NAME to Ray Gordon if you
want that to be your name.....
Alex
creator of the "pivot" at r...@cybersheet.com wrote on 2/18/08 1:18 AM:
>> The previous poster was impersonating me, including signing his name as me
>> (which itself is defamatory since I didn't author the post). It's also
>> anonymous harassment, which is a felony.
>>
>
>> Hmm. That sounds serious,
>
> It is. Just ask the chess federation.
>
Why?
Did they impersonate you too?
Alex
again... at up.urs.con wrote on 2/18/08 10:08 AM:
> At his age, he does not drive, and
> will NOT explain why (Fuz's PI found out why),
Is it because Pennsylvania won't give out Driver's Licenses to unmedicated
mentally ill people?
Just as an aside, people who grow up in major cities with excellent public
transportation systems often don't need to learn to drive.
I grew up in NYC and didn't learn to drive until I was 33 and living in
Westchester.
Krus T. Olfard
news:C3DF475F.1242A5%akau...@nyc.NOSPAM.rr.com:
I will agree that in that situation a person does not NEED to drive but
unless they do they are seriously limiting what they can do.
Alex
bra...@odor.com wrote on 2/18/08 3:44 PM:
> Alex <akau...@nyc.NOSPAM.rr.com> wrote in
> news:C3DF475F.1242A5%akau...@nyc.NOSPAM.rr.com:
>
>> in article l37jr35k3jt0k6jl9...@4ax.com, It's that guy
>> again... at up.urs.con wrote on 2/18/08 10:08 AM:
>>
>>> At his age, he does not drive, and
>>> will NOT explain why (Fuz's PI found out why),
>>
>>
>> Is it because Pennsylvania won't give out Driver's Licenses to
>> unmedicated mentally ill people?
>>
>> Just as an aside, people who grow up in major cities with excellent
>> public transportation systems often don't need to learn to drive.
>>
>> I grew up in NYC and didn't learn to drive until I was 33 and living
>> in Westchester.
>>
>>
>
> I will agree that in that situation a person does not NEED to drive but
> unless they do they are seriously limiting what they can do.
I never felt limited but now that I drive, I don't think I'd ever go back.
corky
"Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote in message
news:4qKdnXMzMbTfeiXa...@pghconnect.com...
> The previous poster was impersonating me, including signing his name as me
> (which itself is defamatory since I didn't author the post). It's also
> anonymous harassment, which is a felony.
Hey Ray, did you post any legal notices during the 9/11 rant? Or was that
you?
fake...@gmail.com
> in article Xns9A48819A6B8Dhotst...@208.49.82.60, Krus T. Olfard at> > Alex <akaufm...@nyc.NOSPAM.rr.com> wrote in
> >news:C3DF475F.1242A5%akau...@nyc.NOSPAM.rr.com:
>
> >> in article l37jr35k3jt0k6jl9nnem80sjtq1d7s...@4ax.com, It's that guy
> >> again... at up.urs.con wrote on 2/18/08 10:08 AM:
>
> >>> At his age, he does not drive, and
> >>> will NOT explain why (Fuz's PI found out why),
>
> >> Is it because Pennsylvania won't give out Driver's Licenses to
> >> unmedicated mentally ill people?
>
> >> Just as an aside, people who grow up in major cities with excellent
> >> public transportation systems often don't need to learn to drive.
>
> >> I grew up in NYC and didn't learn to drive until I was 33 and living
> >> in Westchester.
>
> > I will agree that in that situation a person does not NEED to drive but
> > unless they do they are seriously limiting what they can do.
>
> I never felt limited but now that I drive, I don't think I'd ever go back.
I have an older bro who lived in NYC for 10 years, then Rome for the
last 20. He just got his first driver's license about 5 years ago for
his Harley.
fake...@gmail.com
> "Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote in messagenews:4qKdnXMzMbTfeiXa...@pghconnect.com...
>
> > The previous poster was impersonating me, including signing his name as me
> > (which itself is defamatory since I didn't author the post). It's also
> > anonymous harassment, which is a felony.
>
> Hey Ray, did you post any legal notices during the 9/11 rant? Or was that
> you?
LMOC (laffed myself off the chair)
I think Gorgon is going to pretend he doesn't see your post.
fake...@gmail.com
>
> > The previous poster was impersonating me, including signing his name as me
> > (which itself is defamatory since I didn't author the post). It's also
> > anonymous harassment, which is a felony.
>
> Hey Ray, did you post any legal notices during the 9/11 rant? Or was that
> you?
Corky, not only are you not retarded, but you found the chink in
Gorgon's armor of inaneness. Gorgon inadvertently set his own
precedent by posting thsi "legal notice" Every single horrific post,
like the one someone just re-posted about "burying women 6 ft. under",
the 9/11 screed you mention, et. al, that don't have his legal notice
advising it wasn't him, proves he was author by his own ommission of
such statements. Good work, Corkster!
Gorgon, you just royally fucked yourself, you creep.
Alex
wrote on 2/18/08 4:22 PM:
It was him.
HC
> "Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote in messagenews:4qKdnXMzMbTfeiXa...@pghconnect.com...
>
> > The previous poster was impersonating me, including signing his name as me
> > (which itself is defamatory since I didn't author the post). �It's also
> > anonymous harassment, which is a felony.
>
> Hey Ray, did you post any legal notices during the 9/11 rant? Or was that
> you?
It was him. I witnessed it as it happened. He not only didn't deny it,
he RATIONALIZED why he did it.
Alex
9cf9edf0-331c-4fbb...@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com, HC at
TheHC...@aol.com wrote on 2/18/08 4:56 PM:
> On Feb 18, 4:22?pm, "corky" <co...@bureauofschmeng.com> wrote:
>> "Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote in
>> messagenews:4qKdnXMzMbTfeiXa...@pghconnect.com...
>>
>>> The previous poster was impersonating me, including signing his name as me
>>> (which itself is defamatory since I didn't author the post). ?It's also
>>> anonymous harassment, which is a felony.
>>
>> Hey Ray, did you post any legal notices during the 9/11 rant? Or was that
>> you?
>
> It was him. I witnessed it as it happened. He not only didn't deny it,
> he RATIONALIZED why he did it.
He was proud of it for days, then he nuked the Google archives.
He likes to pretend if it's not in Google, it never happened.
Krus T. Olfard
news:C3DF59DE.1242C5%akau...@nyc.NOSPAM.rr.com:
To me it's more of a time management thing than anything else. I could
take public transit to go across town but unless I was lucky in the
timing it could take up to three hours to do so with all the transfers
necessary and I would have to leave when the bus arrived at the nearest
appropriate busstop.
With driving I can get in my car at any time and in 20 minutes or so I am
at my destination.
HC
> Alex <akaufm...@nyc.NOSPAM.rr.com> wrote innews:C3DF59DE.1242C5%akau...@nyc.NOSPAM.rr.com:
>
>
>
>
>
> > in article Xns9A48819A6B8Dhotst...@208.49.82.60, Krus T. Olfard at> >> Alex <akaufm...@nyc.NOSPAM.rr.com> wrote in
> >>news:C3DF475F.1242A5%akau...@nyc.NOSPAM.rr.com:
>
> >>> in article l37jr35k3jt0k6jl9nnem80sjtq1d7s...@4ax.com, It's that guy
> >>> again... at up.urs.con wrote on 2/18/08 10:08 AM:
>
> >>>> At his age, he does not drive, and
> >>>> will NOT explain why (Fuz's PI found out why),
>
> >>> Is it because Pennsylvania won't give out Driver's Licenses to
> >>> unmedicated mentally ill people?
>
> >>> Just as an aside, people who grow up in major cities with excellent
> >>> public transportation systems often don't need to learn to drive.
>
> >>> I grew up in NYC and didn't learn to drive until I was 33 and living
> >>> in Westchester.
>
> >> I will agree that in that situation a person does not NEED to drive
> >> but unless they do they are seriously limiting what they can do.
>
> > I never felt limited but now that I drive, I don't think I'd ever go
> > back.
>
> To me it's more of a time management thing than anything else. I could
> take public transit to go across town but unless I was lucky in the
> timing it could take up to three hours to do so with all the transfers
> necessary and I would have to leave when the bus arrived at the nearest
> appropriate busstop.
Not if you lived/worked in NYC. ;-)
I used to work in the city for a company that leased cars and owned
parking garages all over Mahnattan. Even though I had my car with me,
and had parking completely covered, when I had to get from the 14th
street garage to the 47th street garage, it was way quicker to hop on
the subway. By subway it would take me maybe 20 minutes, door to door.
If I tried to drive it, it could be close to an hour, given the
traffic.
I'll give you that NYC is probably an exception to the rule, but
that's where Alex is/was.
> With driving I can get in my car at any time and in 20 minutes or so I am
> at my destination.
>
> --
> I'm an opinionated bastard. Everything I post is my opinion. If you do
> not like my opinions then killfile me - if you like my opinions then send
> me money.
>
> The KTO Dictionary of Subjective Language
>
> Tard: n Someone whose actions/words make her/him look like an idiot in
> public but s/he is too disconnected to reality to realize it.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Odious
> It's a totally different arena, one many "seduction gurus" think they can
> call "game" by putting the word "game" after it.
>
> There is no "BMW Game" or "Country Club Game" or "good looks game" and so
> forth. Assets are not skills.
>
> "Game" is about scoring out of one's league, without having to go to the
> longer, self-improvement route.
>
And we see a great example of why gordo is a failure.... he is lazy, and
really just looking to rationalize his failures, rather than change his
failing tactics in order to achieve success.
Game is not simply about improving the quality of woman you have sex with,
but about applying methods for improvement and success to other aspects of
ones life as well. This is something you'll never understand.