sandall - 11:39am Oct 23, 2000 EST (#212 of 1523)
Good morning all!!!
Well...My Saturday night F(*& date with Young, Hottie Guy...was a
complete and total, utter, mind blowing DISASTER!!!! I still can't
believe what happened!
So, everything was fine at first...we were watching a college football
game, drinking beer...just kicking back, he's from Seattle, so he was
on the phone with some family members during the course of the
evening...which didn't bother me in the least...although constant
phone calls from his cousins who are also his buddies...did get a
little annoying, it was kind of immature....anyway..so he was in the
bathroom and his phone rang...he didn't hear it and so the answering
machine picked up..it was a girl..saying she hadn't talk with him in a
while, wanted to know what he was up to..yadayada...ok, that didn't
bother me either....
At first he thought it was his cousin's girlfriend calling, because he
told them all about me and that I was coming up there for the evening,
then he started wondering if maybe it wasn't the girlfriend and just
who was it??? He played the damned message over like 5 times...ok, I
started to get a little irritated....
Then we started to screw around, I started to give him a Blow job and
he was like just lying there....I couldn't tell if it was making any
impression on him at all..so I asked him, "are you like enjoying this
at all?" and he proceeded to say to me (you guys are going to die when
you hear this!)
"Well, I was very spoiled by a Blow Job once, and so in my mind,
nothing will ever compare." I couldn't believe it, I rolled over and
reached for my clothes....even if he is just a FB, that really hurt my
feelings.....so then he puts his arms around me and says "Hey..I
didn't mean anything by that, I'm just telling you that i had this
really awesome experience at one point." So, like an idiot I stayed,
we started having sex and about 3 minutes into it, the phone
rings...and the stupid, F*&#(&^ bastard answeres the damn phone....so
I am like laying there underneath him while he's on the phone with his
cousins asking them about that message from the girl.
So, I'm pissed by this time, I "disengage" myself from him, get my
clothes go into the bathroom and get dressed, I was contemplating
going home, but I had had ALOT of beer and was in no shape to
drive...so I am fully clothed, laying on his bed, quickly sobering up
because I am so pissed.
And then he plays the message again. That was it! I got up, went out
to the Living room (where we had been, where he was talking on the
phone)put my baseball cap on, put my jacket on ....
He's like "HEY! Where are you going?" I just shook my head and started
to put my shoes on. He hangs up the phone, still sitting there with
his pants around his ankles, he asked again, I said "You know, you
didn't have to pick up that call, that's why they make anwering
machines...and it was funny the first 3 times you played that message
back, but it's not anymore. I realize that I have behaved in a way
that may make you think you can treat me like dirt....but, you
apparently are not mature enough to handle a FB relationship. To
bad...." I turned around and walked out and SLAMMED THE DOOR behind
me.....
Haven't heard from him...not that I really expected to.
Kind of reminds me of the guys in this group who try to put it into practice
and wind up in worse AFC territory than they already were.
Ray Gordon, Net LEGEND
http://www.cybersheet.com/sportpix.html (Revolution)
http://www.cybersheet.com/hypno/index.html (Hypnosis)
http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html (Seduction Library)
http://www.cybersheet.com/dominique/index.html (Moceanu)
Just one comment, about his "take away" during the blowjob ...
the bitch actually thought she had a "right" to "feel bad" about
the fact that HE wasn't enjoying HER skills. Shit, chick logic
at its finest.
Grrr...
Leon <f...@foo.foo.fi> wrote in
<ig3k3tog0nm1tcc26...@4ax.com>:
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To subdue the enemy without fighting is the highest skill.
Sun Tzu
Bitter are we?
What is it about her that makes you think she deserves that kind of
behavior?
And what he said about the BJ makes me think of Jim Carrey's "I've had
better." in Liar Liar.
It's a stupid move and all he did was to make the chick feel like shit about
something that she was doing to please him. She had EVERY right to feel bad
hearing that. I'd like to see how YOU would react to a chick telling you
that your dick/tongue/whatever just "can't compare" to someone else she was
with previously.
For a guy who likes to tout himself as having such a big brain, it seems to
me that you just don't get it.
Correct me if I'm wrong. (I'm sure you will, regardless.)
yaritai
Actually, I won't correct you (sorry to disappoint). I think
you're right, and I do think my post looks pretty bitter.
You have to admit there's some kind of screwy warped chick-logic
going on (is that redundant?) with the idea that if SHE is bad
at something, HE gets blamed ... but (depending on how he stated
it) I can see that his statements about her abilities might
indeed have been either quite polite or quite rude. Insensitive,
to either (a) her supposed emotional needs (make her feel good,
she'll go down on you more) or (b) his desires (make her feel
good, she'll go down on you more).
Nevertheless, ... nah, nevermind.
>yaritai
Nah, he's not a player, he's a newbie jerk. As Ezra pointed out, he lost
the lay.
Unless ... he didn't want her anymore and he was seeing how far he could
push her before she left?
He insults her all night. And answering the phone while his dick's
inside her - that's like something out of Sex and the City. Is he giving
her attitude or what?
A revenge date? Major blow-off?
Jeez, what if he *arranged* the call from that girl?
>He insults her all night. And answering the phone while his dick's
>inside her
I used to know at least two girls who liked it when I did that.
Keep fucking, and say 'oh, how are you?' 'No, you're not disturbing me
at all' 'So, what's new ?' etc.... etc....
It actually turned them on !
They explained they felt like they were being used.
(The call shouldn't last too long though)
> Actually, I won't correct you (sorry to disappoint). I think
Damn! I was looking forward to it! ;-P
> you're right, and I do think my post looks pretty bitter.
Did you have a bad day yesterday?
>
> You have to admit there's some kind of screwy warped chick-logic
> going on (is that redundant?) with the idea that if SHE is bad
> at something, HE gets blamed ... but (depending on how he stated
> it) I can see that his statements about her abilities might
> indeed have been either quite polite or quite rude. Insensitive,
> to either (a) her supposed emotional needs (make her feel good,
> she'll go down on you more) or (b) his desires (make her feel
> good, she'll go down on you more).
You hit the nail on the head in the last part. He's an asshole, and I
suspect he doesn't get a whole lot of very satisfying sex. Now, it's
possible that her story's not complete, and that she deserves to be treated
like shit for whatever reason unmentioned. (Who knows? Maybe she fucked his
best friend the day before, or whatever.) But, going on what she says, he's
a prick. Pure and simple.
But I disagree with what you say about her blaming him. I didn't get that
from her message. She may suck (sic) at BJs, but I don't think it's
relevant. Even if she was the most horrible BJ on the planet, gnawing at
your johnson with her pearlies, you don't say "I've had better."!! Geez,
it's such a shitty thing to say, that I'm convinced he must have been doing
that shit on purpose.
Also, you're so right about it being self-defeating, regardless of how
insensitive it may or may not be. The old Mr. Honest in me would have only
slightly tried to bump her ego. I would have been polite, but not very
convincing. After my recent experiences, I know make it a policy to go
completely overboard in praising a chick in bed. We're all human and we all
want to feel like we're the best sex in the world. Well, I've realized that
doing this actually gets you the best sex in the world! The more you tell
her how fucking fantastic she is, the better she wants to be, and the harder
she tries to outdo herself. She also relaxes more, which helps.
I started this in this ng with the purpose of just getting more pussy and
when I saw all that shit that people were spewing about, "this is a chance
for you to improve someone elses life", I thought, "give me a fucking break,
what shit. It's just about pussy!!! Show me the pussy!!!" Wow, I can't
believe it myself, but now I'm just as much into the fact that I CAN walk
away knowing that I've improved someone's life somewhat!!! I can make her
feel like a million, and as a result, she in turn makes me feel like a
million!
If that idiot had had half a brain (from the information given, that is), he
would've sung the praises of her being the most mind-blowing BJ he's ever
even imagined. At the very least, he'd probably still be getting laid, and
better, if not amazing, BJs.
yaritai
Compliment her on how great she is in bed while you're in bed
with her, and her natural response will be to continue to be
great in bed. On the other hand, compliment her on how great she
is on the street (say, at wearing her tight outfit, or having
nice nails) while you're on the street with her, and her natural
response will be to continue to be great on the street. Thus
resisting going to bed with you.
This links straight into Rio's "statements of intent" and to the
whole "don't supplicate" concept. Also to something you said,
Yaritai, ...
"yaritai" <yar...@hotmail.com> wrote in
<91g6vp$13b$1...@nsv3001.zaq.ne.jp>:
[snip]
>completely overboard in praising a chick in bed. We're all
>human and we all want to feel like we're the best sex in the
>world.
Careful with this. Seems that going about it poorly could really
be supplicating? I dunno ...
The idea being, maybe, that our tactics can CHANGE once she's in
BED with us. Like, getting her there is a situation of her
putting up all her chick logic in the direction of resisting it;
but once she's BEEN there, she has to use her chick logic to
JUSTIFY it, so we need to reverse things accordingly as well?
Comments? Man, my sarge last night could have used this sort of
realization ...
>Leon wrote:
>>
>> This is from rules as well. Looks like one of them
>> got a serious player or PUA. It's kind of funny espesially
>> the BJ part. Maybe I try that sometime :)
>
>
>Nah, he's not a player, he's a newbie jerk. As Ezra pointed out, he lost
>the lay.
>
>Unless ... he didn't want her anymore and he was seeing how far he could
>push her before she left?
first of all, he didn't lose the lay. he decided that he would rather
talk on the phone instead of continuing to fuck this stupid bitch.
haven't you ever fucked someone you couldn't stand, and pulled some
rude shit to get rid of her?
she actually had to comment that he hasn't called her! i love it!