Field Report #1 (debut post)
Jake
sarging trip!
First move was to take a pivot - only a 6.5 but better than none? Anyway, when we got to the
place she contrived not to go through the main door with me. (Funny, I know established
couples where this seems to happen regularly. Maybe this indicates a desire to stray but
ignorance about pivots and their value?)
Anyway, 6.5 did enter a bit later and but I was soon working an 8 I know quite well as a
semi-pivot. Then *wow*, I am walking a little ahead of 8 towards the dance floor and a 9
approached me wants a dance because "it's so long since last time" !!!! By this time the 8
catches up in time to hear me explain that I'm booked for this dance with 8 but I may catch 9
later. Is that double sided social proof or what????
As I dance with 8, I think hard and remember where I first mat 9 and reflect that even if you
don't score fist time for some reason, it's often possible to plant seeds and pluck the fruit
months later.
So, over to dance with the 9 and it goes *really* well. She's trying for lots of eye contact and
looking kinda dreamy. I'm on the home straight!
And then, I blow it. She says she is thirsty and like the AFC I'm trying to recover from, I buy
her a drink. :-((((. Immediately, the who atmosphere changes. The eye contact stops and
soon she makes an excuse to talk to someone else
I do catch her later and do a good #close as she is about to leave. I also manage a
goodnight kiss with two 8s in clear view of the 9 without pushing.
So, am I going to use the #? I think not. That stands little chance especially as when she
was giving it, she stressed how busy she was and the distance between us. My best bet is
*Next* but since 9 will likely cross my path again in the next year, I'll then try for a quick
close then or use her as a pivot.
Ok, learning points:
1. Don't buy drinks!!! (Anyone offer tips on good ways to avoid?)
2. 2nd meetings can be good. I shall carry on making long term investments when there are
no better prospects
3. Pivots are great! I'm a popular guy but I had made the mistake of hunting alone in the
past
All feedback welcome - thanks!
Jake
Jack
>
> I'm an AFC taking his first few steps on the Recovery road and I
> just had an instructive first sarging trip!
>
Good for you!
Welcome, check out my SigFile, & the FAQ for HOmework help
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>
> And then, I blow it. She says she is thirsty and like the AFC I'm
> trying to recover from, I buy her a drink. :-((((. Immediately, the
> who atmosphere changes. The eye contact stops and soon she makes an
> excuse to talk to someone else
>
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>
> Ok, learning points:
>
> 1. Don't buy drinks!!! (Anyone offer tips on good ways to avoid?)
>
Her: I'm thirsty!
[Said with the "If you buy me a drink, I'm yours" look]
You: Me too! Why don't you go get us a drink? I'll take a Ginger Ale
with a twist. I'll be right here waiting for you.
[Then turn away and look for your pivot, or another dance partner]
>
> 2. 2nd meetings can be good. I shall carry on making long term
> investments when there are no better prospects
>
You said it best yourself: Plant the seeds, and then pluck the fruit
months later. Great line, concept, and attitude.
>
> 3. Pivots are great! I'm a popular guy but I had made the mistake
> of hunting alone in the past
>
Hunting alone can have benefits: No AFC-wings to cock-block you, no
pivots to cock-block you, and no reliance on anyone else but yourself.
HTH
--
John C. Ryan, Jr., M.Ed.
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Thunderhawk
Jake wrote:
> IOk, learning points:
>
> 1. Don't buy drinks!!! (Anyone offer tips on good ways to avoid?)
Something I have done in this situation in the past is just order one for myself. This has gotten a
variety of responses; From a pissed look (Well, guess we know what she was looking for now, don't
we?) to an intrigued look. (This was good)
This reminds me of a situation that happened to me once. I was in a local hangout talking to an HB7.
Things were going ok, pretty much just fluff as she didn't do a lot for me. Along comes the
bartender (an HB 8 btw)asking if we need refills. I say sure, I'll have another tangueray and tonic.
She then looks at me and says; "You're not going to buy her one too?!?!" Oh was I pissed...... She
got me out of my element a bit with that, I'm no PUA yet, but I responded; "I don't buy women
drinks. It makes me look too easy."
Got a smile from the bartender, but HB 7 was a bit cold after that. Oh well.
Thawk
Jake
> Her: I'm thirsty!
> [Said with the "If you buy me a drink, I'm yours" look]
> You: Me too! Why don't you go get us a drink? I'll take a Ginger Ale
LOL. I wonder if she'll believe her ears????
> Hunting alone can have benefits: No AFC-wings to cock-block you, no
> pivots to cock-block you, and no reliance on anyone else but yourself.
There's a question. Is it "safe" to have a pivot know that you are doing SS? I've certainly
used LJBF women in my AFC past and briefed them honestly. Yeah, I remember using two
of them to distract an AMOG away from a target. Not only did I score, the LJBF women had
a great laugh fawning on the AMOG. (I later helped one of the women go after *her* target
by keeping her kids from interfering.)
Will the LJBF women help me if they' *know* me as a SS/PUA? Might sisterhood prevail?
Thanks
Jake
Jack
>
> Thanks for the feedback, Jack
>
>> Her: I'm thirsty!
>> [Said with the "If you buy me a drink, I'm yours" look]
>> You: Me too! Why don't you go get us a drink? I'll take a Ginger Ale
>
> LOL. I wonder if she'll believe her ears????
>
Some of them just want you to buy them drinks all night, so they can go
home and fuck their borefriends. Some of them expect you to prostrate
yourself before them to reassure their desirability, and some of them
want a freebie from a guy they think they can manipulate by appearing to
offer up the pussy.
These are the ones that this sort of comment will weed out.
>
>> Hunting alone can have benefits: No AFC-wings to cock-block you,
>> no pivots to cock-block you, and no reliance on anyone else but
>> yourself.
>
> There's a question. Is it "safe" to have a pivot know that you are
> doing SS? I've certainly used LJBF women in my AFC past and briefed
> them honestly. Yeah, I remember using two of them to distract an AMOG
> away from a target. Not only did I score, the LJBF women had a great
> laugh fawning on the AMOG. (I later helped one of the women go after
> *her* target by keeping her kids from interfering.)
>
That's the idea. However you don't necessarily ask the mechanic which
wrench he used on your alternator, do you? You just ask if he fixed the
thing. Same principle applies here. Why tell the woman *how* you plan to
spend the evening, when you can just tell her what her role is? Not that
it really matters, because some women will "get off" on seeing you apply
these skills to get other women, and some will want to know how to do it
themselves.
>
> Will the LJBF women help me if they' *know* me as a SS/PUA? Might
> sisterhood prevail?
>
Well, if you don't go in with a "I'm a master Pick Up Artist, and I use
a sure-fire, never fail method of seducing the panties off of any woman,
and I want you to go out and get my targets for me" attitude, then I
don't see why a gal wouldn't be willing to spend an evening out, with a
great guy, who's popular, and charming, in order to help him be seen
with beautiful women such as herself, and have a good time. Besides if
she finds herself accosted by some AFC that she wants to rid herself of,
you're there to rescue her... Why don't you ask her, and tell us what
she said?
Jake
likely it was getting someone good to dance with. (100 people dancing, 10 sat out looking
bored - where do you think she eants to be?)
This was doggy eyes. Maybe she hinted for the drink out of habit but my going along with it
blew it. Is it just the "suplication" thing or is drink buying special?
Thanks, Jake