Tuesday Night Art Course.
Will
I have recently enrolled on a painting/design evening course. The woman:man
ratio is 16:3 :-)
Bad news is that none of the girls is above a 7 and most of them are old -
early thirties onwards.
Anyway, although I am trying to learn about design(some of the time) I
thought I would get some
practice in anyway with the stuff I've picked up on ASF.
In general on the course conversation between fellow students is minimal and
somewhat superficial since everyone is busy doin' there own
painting/designing.
So home time (9pm) is usually the best time to grab someones attention and
have a conversation on the subway home. Works if they go the same way as
you.
Yesterday on the way home (intentionally approached) I spoke to a
Spanish/latin type (6.5) although not great in the looks department had a
nice personality a good deal of confidence. I ran a few jokes about her
painting overalls - she wears an olive green air force pilots jump suit -
they went down really well and she was laughing her head off. On the subway
we continued talking I was looking deep into her cool blue eyes and trying
to mirror her body language, things seemed to be going well she told me all
about herself, even age ( I asked !), 38 - I said she looked about 30ish -
went down really well. As our conversation progressed over the next few
minutes she started pouring out her heart telling me things about how she
misses her home/family, hates her job. and what her motivations for doing
this course were - she was pleased to learn that they were the same as mine
(extra points!!). All this talk about missing family/job etc.. caused a
problem. The conversation had taken on a serious note. No more laughs. All
I could now do for the next few minutes was simply nodd and say uh-huh...
Anyway as her stop arrived I gave her a parting joke, something about
flying, a few minutes later she got off laughing ....to be contiuned next
tues.
My concerns:
1. Should I attempt to close her ? Because I keep my ears open during the
lesson I know she has a boyfriend since she has mentioned it before and in
passing. Is this an Issue. I've practiced some stuff on her which I can
continue with next time building up more rapport. If she rejects me I will
still have to see her on the course for the next month..what to do ?
2. Should humour be used throughout the 'talk' or only at the begining ?.
After the inital jokes about her outfit I found it difficult to think of
other jokes quickly, so I basically ran with a variation of the same joke
over and over - she laughed alot (nice teeth !). Overall i think I was
running into a problem in the middle after the inital rapport thing.
3. How to close her ? Can I really do mystery's kiss thing after 15
minutes - remember this is not a club scenario ?
4. Should I try 'I know you have a BF and am not asking you out, but would
you just like to have coffee or whatever afterward to talk about interior
design/art ' routine.
Any thoughts / comments....
Mystery
I could now do for the next few minutes was simply nodd and say uh-huh...
Anyway as her stop arrived I gave her a parting joke, something about
flying, a few minutes later she got off laughing ....to be contiuned next
tues.
1. Should I attempt to close her ? Because I keep my ears open during the
lesson I know she has a boyfriend since she has mentioned it before and in
passing. Is this an Issue. I've practiced some stuff on her which I can
continue with next time building up more rapport. If she rejects me I will
still have to see her on the course for the next month..what to do ?
After the inital jokes about her outfit I found it difficult to think of
other jokes quickly, so I basically ran with a variation of the same joke
over and over - she laughed alot (nice teeth !). Overall i think I was
running into a problem in the middle after the inital rapport thing.
minutes - remember this is not a club scenario ?
you just like to have coffee or whatever afterward to talk about interior
design/art ' routine.
SuperStar
> hitting on a 6.5 will not get you good at hitting on 8s and up. the =
> only thing is WILL do is get you laid so you can feel better about =
> yourself and therefore more confident in the future because a man who =
> just fucked a 6.5 will have an eiser time chasing an 8 than a man who =
> didnt juck anything in the last 2 years.
Hitting on a 6.5 may help him build his reputation for being a ladies' man
if he does it at a place where he frequents a lot and is reasonably
attractive. For it gives the other girls (<6.5) HOPE and will
consequently talk endlessly about him with their HB friends.
>
> The conversation had taken on a serious note. No more laughs. All
> I could now do for the next few minutes was simply nodd and say =
> uh-huh...
> Anyway as her stop arrived I gave her a parting joke, something about
> flying, a few minutes later she got off laughing ....to be contiuned =
> next
> tues.
>
> tell her she is beautiful (6.5s NEVER hear that) and tell her you want =
> to see her again outside of class and then suggest a quiet place. You =
> cannot KISS CLOSE in a subway enviroment so do a # CLOSE. Then fuck =
> her. Just dont tell your friends. I have no idea WHY you are seducing =
> a 6.5 unless you havent gotten laid in a long time (which IS a valid =
> argument) or you just want to throw one more onto your dick this week =
> for #s sake.
That's true. 6.5's never hear that they're beautiful (only by their close
friends and parents of course).
>
> My concerns:
> 1. Should I attempt to close her ? Because I keep my ears open during =
> the
> lesson I know she has a boyfriend since she has mentioned it before and =
> in
> passing. Is this an Issue. I've practiced some stuff on her which I can
> continue with next time building up more rapport. If she rejects me I =
> will
> still have to see her on the course for the next month..what to do ?
>
> You arent realistically going to learn much from chasing a 6.5 who HAS a =
> legitimate boyfriend. Go out and play THE GAME. Standing around 6.5s =
> trying to get rid of their ugly BFs is a waste of your skills and =
> talents my boy.
>
> I LOVE bumping into girls Ive been REJECTED by. It tells me I TRIED! I =
> hate bumping into girls that I didnt HIT on. The ones that are staled =
> out depress me.
Amazingly, girls I've been rejected by tell their friends how I'm such a
great guy. It's probably because I don't go sour on them once they reject
me.
>
> 2. Should humour be used throughout the 'talk' or only at the begining =
> ?.
> After the inital jokes about her outfit I found it difficult to think of
> other jokes quickly, so I basically ran with a variation of the same =
> joke
> over and over - she laughed alot (nice teeth !). Overall i think I was
> running into a problem in the middle after the inital rapport thing.
>
> She is a 6.5. None of my advice here is for a 6.5. Its a whole =
> different set of rules.
>
> 3. How to close her ? Can I really do mystery's kiss thing after 15
> minutes - remember this is not a club scenario ?
>
> You CAN ... but she is a 6.5 dude. You want the subway bums watching =
> you kiss an UG?
>
> 4. Should I try 'I know you have a BF and am not asking you out, but =
> would
> you just like to have coffee or whatever afterward to talk about =
> interior
> design/art ' routine.
>
> OUCH! MEVER. Full of EXCUSES and self-doubt. Why the hell are you =
> scared of an UG? If you want her, ASSUME you are her really good friend =
> already. DONT bother TRYING to become her BOYFRIEND ... just ACT LIKE =
> IT already. If she WAS your GF already and you already fucked, what =
> would you do the next day? You'd get her to tag along when you went to =
> the mall to return those pants that dont fit. Or to buy a book for a =
> gift for your sister. SO? Have her tag along in your life a bit. THEN =
> be LIKE a BF intimacy wise in those situations.
That's right. Excuses are never good like the one above. For it
acknowledges the superiority of her BF.
>
> Any thoughts / comments....
Will
Yes, I was constantly trying to justify to myself, why I am bothering with
an UG. In the end I couldn't come up with a real good reason. I am not
desperate to fuck her. I have now resolved to forget about pulling UGs and
will be concentrating my resources on some HBs.
Mystery
plan on doing this within the next 7 days?
Will
Currently thinking...how to MEET them.
I have a potential problem.
From what I gather Mystery et al seem to do 90 % of their pulling in
clubs/pubs.
I haven't been to any clubs in years as I was never a big fan when I used to
go at uni.
By not attending any clubs am i putting myself at a significant disadvantage
in terms of closing some HBs ?
If not clubs (last resort if I have to) where else to pull ?
Mystery <mys...@idirect.ca> wrote in message 364c1...@nemo.idirect.com...
Mystery
one. not closing, not attracting.
goto where there are alot of HBs (looks like clubs is the answer because it
is the mating ritual of choice) and then approach 12 girls. simple. go out
and when you see a group of girls, even though it will FEEL wrong, go up and
chat. then move on. keep doing this til you feel better about it.
that is the plan.
meeting women should occur in social situations. where are social
situations? grocery stores? I dont think so. Goto where girls go to get
attention. Then get good at being different than the other guys.
Outfoxing The Foxes
here is the most effective plan. get good at approaching. that is step
one. not closing, not attracting.
<----Good logic.
goto where there are alot of HBs (looks like clubs is the answer because
it
is the mating ritual of choice) and then approach 12 girls. simple. go
out
and when you see a group of girls, even though it will FEEL wrong, go up
and
chat. then move on. keep doing this til you feel better about it.
<--------Agreed again. One of the reasons Foxes put up those walls is
that men who have the nerve to move past them put them in the position of
either having to be rude, or to talk to you. The rude wome are the smart
ones, of course. Which is why they piss the men off. To understand this
dynamic, ask a woman you know will reject you for a date and watch how
awkward it makes her feel. Instead of worrying about her dating you,
just notice how she reacts to the request.
that is the plan.
Meeting women should occur in social situations. where are social
situations? grocery stores? I dont think so. Goto where girls go to
get
attention. Then get good at being different than the other guys.
<------By definition, that will be a small percentage of guys, no matter
what techniques are used. What do you tell the 95 percent of men who are
"normal" to do? Do remember, Mystery, that the 75 percent of babes who
reject you also have boyfriends, do they not? It's possible that other
approaches might work.
Most of the Foxes I talk to actually resent being hit on the way this
group recommends. And no, they don't respond favorably to it in most
cases although Ross probably changes a few minds. These are the women
most likely to reject Mystery, and most likely to approach a guy like me.
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Will
Mystery <mys...@idirect.ca> wrote in message 364f3...@nemo.idirect.com...
>here is the most effective plan. get good at approaching. that is step
>one. not closing, not attracting.
>
>goto where there are alot of HBs (looks like clubs is the answer because it
>is the mating ritual of choice) and then approach 12 girls. simple. go
out
>and when you see a group of girls, even though it will FEEL wrong, go up
and
>chat. then move on. keep doing this til you feel better about it.
>
>that is the plan.
>
>meeting women should occur in social situations. where are social
Fidelio
>Currently thinking...how to MEET them.
>I have a potential problem.
>From what I gather Mystery et al seem to do 90 % of their pulling in
>clubs/pubs.
>I haven't been to any clubs in years as I was never a big fan when I used to
>go at uni.
Think more abstractly. Clubs are mystery's favourite place, he likes to
go to clubs. When you draw a conclusion, you can either conclude that
you have to go to clubs, or that you have to go to your favourite places
to go. You decide what's best for you.
R
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Mystery
offers higher performance, Im all ears.