The 7 Percent Saturation Threshhold
The Seduction Library
we call beautiful. It would follow, then, that once 7 percent of men
master any seduction technique, that a point of overload is reached, and
the method is no longer a guarantee of success. The result is the same
game of musical chairs we have now with the Foxes being the chairs and
the men competing for them.
The actual saturation threshhold is probably closer to 1-2 percent,
because these men often hook up with multiple women.
The Seduction Library
http://www.cybersheet.com/fox/index.html
Outfoxing The Foxes: How To Seduce The Women Of You Dreams
29 Reasons Not To Be A Nice Guy
________________________________________________________________
YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET!
Juno now offers FREE Internet Access!
Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit:
http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
earlyriser
<i__suck__a...@zero.com> wrote:
> Under the standard Bell Curve, approximately 7 percent of women are what
> we call beautiful. It would follow, then, that once 7 percent of men
> master any seduction technique, that a point of overload is reached, and
> the method is no longer a guarantee of success. The result is the same
> game of musical chairs we have now with the Foxes being the chairs and
> the men competing for them.
>
> The actual saturation threshhold is probably closer to 1-2 percent,
> because these men often hook up with multiple women.
"There are lies, damned lies...and statistics." Now we have a new
paradigm - RAY LOGIC.
Every guy in ASF who has approached more than about a dozen women knows
there are beautiful women who scare most guys off. The poor girls spend
Friday and Saturday night at home, having a Blockbuster night with a
bowl of popcorn and some ice cream right from the container.
If you weren't so pitifully AFRAID of women, you'd stop all this
ranting - because you'd be getting some attention from a decent woman.
Earlyriser
--
Free audio & video emails, greeting cards and forums
Talkway - http://www.talkway.com - Talk more ways (sm)
Boojum
unlikely. 7% speed seducers is wildly unlikely. I'll grant your assumption
that mastery of seduction technique is easy and powerful, amusing as it is.
If your scenario panned out, the game would be different; if you didn't have
seduction skills, you'd be out of it.
"The Seduction Library" <the____seducti...@juno.com> wrote in
message
news:20000328.144015.-312249.19.T...@juno.com...
> Under the standard Bell Curve, approximately 7 percent of women are what
> we call beautiful. It would follow, then, that once 7 percent of men
> master any seduction technique, that a point of overload is reached, and
> the method is no longer a guarantee of success. The result is the same
> game of musical chairs we have now with the Foxes being the chairs and
> the men competing for them.
>
> The actual saturation threshhold is probably closer to 1-2 percent,
> because these men often hook up with multiple women.
>
Markku Jantunen
>Every guy in ASF who has approached more than about a dozen women knows
>there are beautiful women who scare most guys off.
That is definitely true, but men are not initially afraid of beautiful
women. Fear of rejection is learned from repeated failure. Most men
learn from experience that the likelihood of being rejected by the women
they desire most is the highest.
>The poor girls spend Friday and Saturday night at home, having a
>Blockbuster night with a bowl of popcorn and some ice cream right
>from the container.
Images like this may come in handy as a confidence boost for the
average guy pursuing a beautiful woman. But the lonely HB is not alone
because there aren't any average guys _obviously_ interested in her.
She is alone (lonely HB's are actually rare, because there are also
high-smv guys around) because she doesn't want an average guy. The
first requirement for a guy whom she _might_ want is that he be
confident enough to make all the moves right without falling apart
out of fear caused by the learned expectation of rejection. The
average guy is not that confident. (There are lot's of factors
other than confidence, but I'll concentrate on the role of confidence.)
Unfortunately, the single most effective way to raise one's confidence
is success, which poses a signifigant problem for the average guy.
Confidence tapes, adopting "positive thinking" etc. rarely produce
lasting results.
There is only one logical permanent solution: the trade-up strategy,
which is exactly what lot's of guys follow, purposedly or not. The
use of pivots may be of help, too, it's not the same.
As cruel as it sounds, after a man has settled for a more or less
sub-optimal partner, his stock among women is likely to rise. After
all, one of the sexiest male attributes in the eyes of many women
is that a man be able to get sex. And the more attractive the women
he has sex with, the higher his status in the mating market. This
is, in my opinion, fundamentally caused by the effects of BOTH
social proof AND elevated confidence.
(The above is one of the reasons why some women's ability to function
sexually depends on the notion that they are the best possible mate
their man could ever possibly think of, despite the fact that such a
notion is an obvious fallacy. Virtually everyone, man or woman, has
to settle for less than perfection.)
The inevitable negative consequence of the fact that confidence is
a big selection factor (although far from the whole story), however,
is a large addition to the inherent instability of the mating market,
because if confidence weren't a factor, trading up would work less
effectively.
One might argue that women are collectively stupid for selecting
for confidence, but it may be that women are simply genetically
predisposed to value confidence in a man. Namely, from the point
of view of an individual woman, rejecting low-confidence men
makes sense, because the lower the confidence a woman accepts in
a man, the greater risk of desertion she faces after other, more
attractive women notice him.
- mj
--
Markku Jantunen msj at cs dot tut dot fi
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~msj/
TwoBux2Win
>we call beautiful. It would follow, then, that once 7 percent of men
>master any seduction technique, that a point of overload is reached, and
>the method is no longer a guarantee of success. The result is the same
>game of musical chairs we have now with the Foxes being the chairs and
>the men competing for them.
>
Not if one of those chairs can hold 20 butts.
Verbal Kint
"The Seduction Library" <the____seducti...@juno.com> wrote in
message
news:20000328.144015.-312249.19.T...@juno.com...
> we call beautiful. It would follow, then, that once 7 percent of men
> master any seduction technique, that a point of overload is reached, and
> the method is no longer a guarantee of success. The result is the same
> game of musical chairs we have now with the Foxes being the chairs and
> the men competing for them.
I sure dont know where the hell you got that bell curve.. but lets run some
numbers here
(all #'s are aproximate.. but they are meant to prove a point)
(without regard to religion/race/politics),
lets pick an arbitrary number of speed seducers out there...
let say... ahh ..ehh..
200,000 ( this number itself may be very high from the actual figure.. but
bear with me)
total % of ss men worldwide
( 200,000 / 6,060,284,755*) = 3.300174960178E-5 or ... 0.0000330 =
0.0033% thats 3.3 thousands of 1 %
*world pop taken from askjeeves.com
now, in terms of beautiful...lets say that on average that for every 10
women I see, that I find 3 attractive women
that's 30%
number of women in the world: aprox. 2:1 ratio will yield.. about...
4,040,189,837
30% of 4,040,189,837 is aprox. 1,212,056,951 attractive women I
can potentially seduce!!!
now lets factor in the 70% success rate ... 848,439,865 with a good chance
to be successfully seduced
let me forfeit half of them ... 424,219,932
how many women is that??
if I had one for each day, I would have a different babe EVERY DAY for the
next 1,162,246 years
so there will be plenty for everybody.... for a LONG TIME..
2
4
6
Odious
It's like you're kicking a puppy....but damn it's funny.
--
The Spiffy Page: Home of the Ask Odious seduction advice column.
http://members.home.net/odious
James Fraser
>
> ( 200,000 / 6,060,284,755*) = 3.300174960178E-5 or ... 0.0000330 =
> 0.0033% thats 3.3 thousands of 1 %
>
>
> *world pop taken from askjeeves.com
Since when is the entire world population male?6,060,284,755 - how 'bout
halving it?
Doesn't make much difference anyways... :-)