Report: DrOwlFS - Saturday - 03/12/2000 [Interesting!]
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Doctor Owl [Feathered Serpents]
in one area [Kino] but regressed in another [Approach].
I was standing in an almost dead club and two HB's come up
and stand beside me. A man comes in and tries to chat them
up for about 3 minutes before walking away, upset ;) A new
song starts so I whisper into one ear "I love this song, come
dance with me." It was kind of silly because nobody was on
the dance floor yet, but I didn't know what else to say [and I
was on wobbly ground, with just seeing a guy get killed].
They said no they weren't ready to dance yet, and that there
was nobody on the dance floor. I say fair enough, I'm going
to ask again in 10 minutes and we'll go then, and they agree
with me. I should have left at this point, but I asked how are
you, what are you drinking, what other drinks do you like. I
keep touching and rubbing the shoulder of the nearest HB,
and trying to keep the other friend 'talking' too.
HB-Shoulder loves it and very quickly starts touching my
shoulder back and rubbing [it's sooo nice, Kino is so easy
for them to imitate without knowing :)]. I say "Well, your
10 minutes are almost up" and they say again that nobody
is on the dance floor yet. So I whisper to HB-Shoulder
[her real name is Piper, I found out while I was asking her
about what she likes to drink], that we'll go find a bunch
of people who want to dance with us, and a special guy
for her friend.
WRONG APPROACH. She instantly says "Oh, but
we both have boyfriends." I stumble for just a micro
second and say "Nah, everyone's allowed to dance",
but they laugh and smile obviously seeing me falter for
just that micro second. I don't remember what I was
saying next, but before I knew it I was "Well it was a
pleasure meeting you" and tapping my cheek, and got
a cheek kiss from HB-Shoulder :)
I went to some other clubs. Danced in a mixed group
of boys and girls and got ignored [but not back turned
on me, they just didn't look even though I was part of
the circle]. At another club I danced on the floor and
some girls joined in [with each other], but I couldn't
get eye contact or anything from them either. Then I
went to another club, and danced up on stage with
2 UG, 2 HB, and they all ignored me. Sigh.
I went to my last club. There were a lot of people
on the dance floor so I inserted into the middle, a
little close to two HB's. They follow some of my
moves, I mirror some of theirs [works a charm],
but then they start turning their backs on me from
time to time [in a very obvious way] and even
making "Crazy" signs with their fingers to their
heads.
I neg hit by turning my back and ignoring them and
smiling at some other girls. A few minutes later I
turn back around and they are dancing with me
again, only to turn their backs a few minutes later,
this happens a few times over before I ignore
them for the idiots they are, and exited the club.
I left and at the train station saw a group of 2 J-Girls
and 3 Brit-Girls. As they're laughing at something I
smile and sit beside them and they ask me how I am
and what I'm doing tonight and my name. I tried to
get close to the HB, but got cock-blocked by her
fat friend "Stop trying to pick up my friend." I was
trying to think of a comeback, "She's not my type"
but just kind of fucked up.
I went on the train and sat across from them and
we chatted a little and they waved bye as I left
on my stop. I should have said "Ah, if you want
a proper goodbye I need a hug and kiss :)"
CONCLUSIONS
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Kino works in the best possible way on strangers,
and they don't even notice. I was going to town on
that chicks shoulder and she reciprocated quickly
and obviously loved it [kind of rubbed up against
me too].
I'm going well with getting the cheek kiss from the
girls. It's soooo easy and they never say no! I'm
very happy with this result.
I NEED HELP ON
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My approach is lacking again, I can't get eye
contact, and my tongue poke failed thrice [as
I didn't get a stare going for long enough]. I
am completely dumbfounded. On one hand
I usually get blown off without eye contact,
on the other I did get HB-Shoulder without
any previous contact at all. I'm getting very
nervous about dancing with women anymore,
I just keep getting rejected that way. And if
I see 2-3 at the bar, I don't really want to
approach because I look at them and they
just look away with an angry look on their
face. Sigh. Any tips?
Secondly, I'm having a problem with failing the girl
tests, last night was "We have children" tonight it
was "I have a boyfriend" [yeah, then why are you
rubbing my shoulder like it's a cock]. I really need
to work on my comebacks so I don't stall, and
think quicker. Any tips? I thought I kind of did
handle the situation okay... "Then they won't mind
us dancing and having some fun", but overall I did
fuck up by saying "10 minutes" and not leaving.
And that's about it. Any ideas or suggestions or
even questions please let me know.
DrOwlFS
Harry
> and that there was nobody on the dance floor.
Now this one gets me - even when I'm not hunting and I'm really really
looking for a dance.
A woman who is willing to be first on the dance floor *may* be an
attention-junkie. They're bad news because they often don't want
anything else besides lots of attention.
If she's first on the floor, there's several things:
* She may be so hot looking, you get killed in the subsequent rush of
other guys. You can be *her* pivot :-(
* She may be such a hot dancer, you show yourself up (Not often a
problem if you dance as well as I do)
* On the other hand, if she's a hot dancer, it may intimidate the other
guys from trying to hit on her.
* If she's a really lousy dancer, other guys may notice and avoid her.
That means she's less in demand, more lonely and more grateful for your
attention.
Sigh! But there are times when for whatever reason, you want to be an
that dance floor with that girl *now*. Tips for "But no one else is
dancing yet" great fully received!
Harry
Darren Ko
long as there is at least one or two girls on the dance floor, I can go on and
dance. I love to dance anyway. Most guys aren't brave enough to go on the
dance floor if there is hardly anyone there. You can impress the girl by going
on it first.
Darren
>Subject: Re: Report: DrOwlFS - Saturday - 03/12/2000 [Interesting!]
>From: Ha...@nospam.com (Harry)
>Date: 12/3/2000 10:02 AM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <memo.20001203...@net-services.netservs.com>
Harry
darre...@aol.com (Darren Ko) wrote:
> I really don't care if there is someone on the dance floor
> already. As
> long as there is at least one or two girls on the dance floor, I can
> go on and
> dance.
Sorry, I wasn't clear. *I* have no problem being first. It's the girls
who don't want to be first that annoy me.
Harry
Doctor Owl [Feathered Serpents]
sending the message "Nobody wants to dance with me". Plus, it's
kind of showing off for the girl, which is supplication, which is what
they don't like.
Either way I'd lost it. I was much more interested in my negging of
the two HB's on the floor who turned their back on me, and how
positive the effects of Kino are :)
DrOwlFS
Harry
> On the other hand, by going onto the dance floor alone first, you're
> sending the message "Nobody wants to dance with me
Ho no no! Never go onto the floor alone!
1. Dance floor is empty
2. Ask girl to dance
3. Sometimes she objects "No one else is dancing"
But often she says yes and then I'm highly visible and dancing well.
Sometimes, other couples join us which makes me a "leader".
> Plus, it's
> kind of showing off for the girl, which is supplication, which is what
> they don't like.
Yeah, I sometimes wind up being a pivot! If they're seen to dance with
me, other guys tend to form a queue.
Harry