Height
Thomas
I know this may be a sensitive subject for many...and many claims it
doesn't matter. I have asked a lot of women about it (though we know
that women don't really know what they really want), and they say,
that: "As long as he is taller than me, it doesn't matter at all how
tall he is". They also say: "If he is smaller than me, I would have a
problem respecten him". And: "He need to be taller than me to make me
feel feminin".
I would like to know the average height among girls and boys.
And could you please tell it in meters and centimeters. These feet and
inches is not very precise.
So how tall are you? And what do you think middle-height is?
I'm 1.78 m
Thomas
fudge
I´m 1.90 m
And the middle-height for men between (age)17-30 are around your
height.
(sweden)
maddman
value. These do nothing for us, except let us get at the ENDS value,
the emotional payoff she gets from being with a guy who is XXXX. Make
her feel that emotion some other way and you are IN. For instance,
>"He need to be taller than me to make me
> feel feminin".
She has a means value of being with a tall man. If you are tall,
great. If you aren't then satisfy her ENDS value of feeling feminine
some other way, such as pattern language.
HTH
maddman
Darkman
> doesn't matter. I have asked a lot of women about it (though we know
> that women don't really know what they really want), and they say,
> that: "As long as he is taller than me, it doesn't matter at all how
> tall he is". They also say: "If he is smaller than me, I would have a
> problem respecten him". And: "He need to be taller than me to make me
> feel feminin".
My girlfriend is one or two inches (approx. 2.5-5 centimetres) taller that I
am. I successfully #closed a girl who was four inches (approx. 10
centimetres) taller than I am...and I blew it by being *really* AFC, but my
size wasn't the issue.
> I would like to know the average height among girls and boys.
> And could you please tell it in meters and centimeters. These feet and
> inches is not very precise.
>
> So how tall are you? And what do you think middle-height is?
>
> I'm 1.78 m
I'm 1.57m. I'm certain that you can find the average for your country if
you searched the web a bit. A quick search indicated that in the US, the
average height is 1.75m.
Read maddman's reply. He's explained things well. When I'm working on a
girl, I like to bring up the fact that I'm a martial artist because I
realize that a lot of girls associate tallness with an ability to protect.
The tallness isn't what they're looking for in this case. It's the
protection. By mentioning that I'm a martial artist, I can get around
having to provide what they *think* they want (a tall/big guy) and get to
what they *really* want (someone who can protect them if trouble arises).
You should take a look here: http://fastseduction.com/asf-faq.shtml#q006
Also, look in the fastseduction.com archive or google. There have been
quite a number of threads on this subject.
Lastly, when you really get down to it, despite what girls may tell you,
height is only the issue that you make it. Trust me on this. I know it
better than most.
Darkman
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Douglass
of feet and inches like everyone else.
A lot of women do require men to be taller than them, the reason being
because it adds a bit of peace of mind for some women, or a form of
feeling protected. Now notice I said some women like tall men for this
reason, some have other reasons.
You know about those school stories where the shortest person gets picked
on by the rest of the class? Well when a girl is out with her man and hes
shorter than her, other men are going to try to mess with him. If the
person is tall (around 6'3" starting) they wont mess with him or his
woman, or are less likely to.
Middle height is considered to be 6'2 - 6'7 i assume. Most women say they
like a man at least 6' but they tend to take the ones 6'3" and over.
Sgt_Hartman
>I have no idea what 1.78 metres is. please mention your height in terms
>of feet and inches like everyone else.
Actually, just about everyone in Europe and Asia refers to height in
metres (metrically). Who is the 'everyone else' you are talking about?
Americans?
BTW, it's not that hard to convert metres to inches, and then inches
and feet. You DO know how to do that, don't you? If you don't, and
you're past the 6th grade, you might want to go back.
Ok, here, I'll save you some time. Multiply by 39.372. That'll give
you metres to inches. You do the rest.
>A lot of women do require men to be taller than them, the reason being
>because it adds a bit of peace of mind for some women, or a form of
>feeling protected. Now notice I said some women like tall men for this
>reason, some have other reasons.
I think the most important factor in making women want men taller than
them is that it is the norm. Women, like everyone else don't like to
look weird in public. Walking along with a man shorter than them kind
of looks weird, so they like taller guys. This is the same force that
causes guys to not want to go out with women taller than them - it
looks weird. Not wanting to look weird is a HUGELY powerful force in
our society. It's retarded, but it's true.
>You know about those school stories where the shortest person gets picked
>on by the rest of the class? Well when a girl is out with her man and hes
>shorter than her, other men are going to try to mess with him.
What? Guys are going to try to mess with him because he's short? I
don't see too much of this (if any) in the non-playground adult world.
Where do you hang out?
> If the
>person is tall (around 6'3" starting) they wont mess with him or his
>woman, or are less likely to.
>
>Middle height is considered to be 6'2 - 6'7 i assume. Most women say they
>like a man at least 6' but they tend to take the ones 6'3" and over.
I think your numbers are way out of wack. Average height for Americans
is around 5'9". This is a fact, it's all over the web. I'm not arguing
with you that taller isn't better, I think it is. I myself am 5'9",
but don't waste any time moaning about wanting to be taller. It's
irrelevant. I can get women just fine.
Like other posters have said, if a guy finds that most of the women he
likes are taller than him, he has to satisfy her END values of feeling
comforted and protected. That's all that matters. You have been
reading the basics, right?
Sgt. (Manos) Hartman
user name
>
>What? Guys are going to try to mess with him because he's short? I
>don't see too much of this (if any) in the non-playground adult world.
>Where do you hang out?
>
It's happened to me in clubs. Saw some guys try to sarge my chick
right in front of me.
Sgt_Hartman
wrote:
Uh huh. and you know for a fact this was only due to your height?
There's no way you can know that, they may have done it if you were
6'6". It's going to happen occasionally, even if you're Brad Pitt or
Jackie Chan.
Anyway, height is STILL irrelevant.
Sgt (Manos) Hartman
user name
back so hard he fell off the speaker. And I think height is a factor
when you're in a club and the 6 foot guys try to pick off your chick.
It's all good...I have charm and charisma to make up for it.
user name
I am 5'3 and have dated/fucked chicks up to 5'6.
On Sat, 18 Aug 2001 14:13:28 -0400, "Darkman" <alex...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Rodrigo Nuno Bragança da Cunha
> > I'm 1.78 m
>
> I'm 1.57m. I'm certain that you can find the average for your country if
> you searched the web a bit. A quick search indicated that in the US, the
> average height is 1.75m.
>
1'' = 0.0254m exactly, after the "metrification" of the inch.
so 1.75m is about 5'9''
When posting in inches you must consider that here in europe most persons only vaguely know what an inch is...
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<bea807ca.01081...@posting.google.com>,
maddm...@yahoo.com (maddman) wrote:
As adopting the PUA lifestyle has scant interest for me at this time,
I don't intend to be a regular here. However, my height-related
sociological research suggests that the ENDS value of tall height is
often just that: tall height.
maddman
> I don't intend to be a regular here. However, my height-related
> sociological research suggests that the ENDS value of tall height is
> often just that: tall height.
So reading that which has come before you is pointless? What
height-related sociological research is that?
Your wanting to not become a PUA is completly irrelevant to this
conversation. I can think of at least two respected posters
(SlickeddieZ and Jack Ryan) who used the techniques to get into LTRs.
Jack married his. Why are you even here if you don't want to learn?
If height is an obstacle MOVE AROUND IT. Stop making excuses.
Volfik
>of feet and inches like everyone else.
Don't be so arrogant you stupid dumb fuck. I think of my height in
terms of meters (1.78 also), as do many other people. If you are
too stupid and/or lazy to convert that to inches (hint 1 in = 2.54 cm)
why should anyone else help you?
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Volfik
n...@spam.org
: A lot of women do require men to be taller than them, the reason being
This is true. A friend of mine is really tall for a woman (6') - and she
will most definitely not be with someone shorter than her. I've seen
her be completely enthralled with folks and then when a chance is made to
see how tall they are, will ditch them. There's a small amount of wiggle
room there, if they're less than about an inch or so from my experience
and they are really really good, then it flies.
: Middle height is considered to be 6'2 - 6'7 i assume. Most women say they
: like a man at least 6' but they tend to take the ones 6'3" and over.
Average male height, in America at least, is 5'10. I'm personally 6' and seem
to be somewhat on a 'cusp'. Folks in that 5'11+ range seem to start calling
people tall at 6'2ish or so in general, but the vast majority of people
under 5'11 (since both the average male and female are shorter than that)
seem to more frequently consider even 6' to be 'tall'.
MPower
A few weeks ago I closed a 181 cm, 18 y.o topmodel.
She was back from the summer shows in Paris and
tired of "stupid" men trying to seduce her.
It was a beutiful and warm sunday afternoon and I did it within 4 hours.
One week later I closed her friend, a 179 cm, 22 yo HB and lingeriemodel
working for the same agency.
My life would have been more difficult If I had been a 185 cm 22 y.o boy.
Be a Man and an Alpha, do your job well and the height is not an issue..
MPower
"Thomas" <gje...@usa.net> Wrote
ET
I can't do anything about it, therfore talking about this subject is
useless, i have seen tall guys have lots of trouble getting girls, i have
seen short guys get heaps of girls, height is not an issue.
ET
Douglass
feet and inches when measuring height, not using conversion tables for a
simple little measurement. Realise that people around the world are
getting your messages and/or provide conversion tables dumbass, and make
posts accordingly.
Douglass
filterme
sweetly across the net:
>Then stop being a bitch and come to America once in a while where we go by
>feet and inches when measuring height, not using conversion tables for a
>simple little measurement. Realise that people around the world are
>getting your messages and/or provide conversion tables dumbass, and make
>posts accordingly.
Hey Dumbass. Realize the US is the last place on Earth that uses
imperial and find your OWN fucking conversion tables. Maybe than you
fuckers wouldn't crash 2Billion $ into Mars.
My apologies to all US citizens who are not lazy dumbasses.
Tim Robinson
news:Pine.GSO.4.21.010821...@sun05avw.wam.umd.edu...
| Then stop being a bitch and come to America once in a while where we
go by
| feet and inches when measuring height, not using conversion tables
for a
| simple little measurement. Realise that people around the world are
| getting your messages and/or provide conversion tables dumbass, and
make
| posts accordingly.
Europeans don't need to use conversion tables either, "dumbass",
because we measure everything in metric. Conversion only becomes a
problem when talking to Americans. However, this seems to be a very
US-orientated group...
Morningrise
"filterme" <filt...@anycost.com> wrote in message
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> Hey Dumbass. Realize the US is the last place on Earth that uses
> imperial and find your OWN fucking conversion tables. Maybe than you
> fuckers wouldn't crash 2Billion $ into Mars.
>
hahaha that is a good one. Kinda makes you wonder how they became the world
superpower...oh ya..they got THE BOMB. Who needs education when you can blow
up the world. Superpower status comes and goes. The US is going to look
mightly pathetic when it goes.
kevin
Tim Robinson
news:st17otsjtjhshj1pa...@4ax.com...
| >Europeans don't need to use conversion tables either, "dumbass",
| >because we measure everything in metric. Conversion only becomes a
| >problem when talking to Americans. However, this seems to be a very
| >US-orientated group...
such
| as imperial. If a measuring system gives my height in a figure with
| two decimal places, it's a crap measuring system.
How is the Imperial system sensible? It uses weird mixture of number
bases, including 12 and 14. Metric is at least consistent -- all the
units for, say, length, are related to each other by powers of ten.
Alright, since this thread is on height, I am 5'12" tall.
Volfik
>"Douglass" <j...@wam.umd.edu> wrote in message
>news:Pine.GSO.4.21.010821...@sun05avw.wam.umd.edu...
>| Then stop being a bitch and come to America once in a while where we
>go by
>| feet and inches when measuring height, not using conversion tables
>for a
>| simple little measurement. Realise that people around the world are
>| getting your messages and/or provide conversion tables dumbass, and
>make
>| posts accordingly.
>
>Europeans don't need to use conversion tables either, "dumbass",
>because we measure everything in metric.
Actually, here in Britain we use both systems (we started going metric
about 38 years ago and never finished the job :-)).
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Volfik
Tim Robinson
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| >Europeans don't need to use conversion tables either, "dumbass",
| >because we measure everything in metric.
| Actually, here in Britain we use both systems (we started going
metric
| about 38 years ago and never finished the job :-)).
I know :). But it seems like anything "official" (including stuff sold
in shops, etc.) is measured in metric. AFAIK the only metric system is
taught in schools (it was when I was there).
Douglass
inch increment you can go to is 11 inches before you round up to the next
highest foot.
Example 6 foot 12 is actually 7 feet, while 6 foot 11 is an acceptable
classification of height
John D. Douglass
Tim Robinson
| > How is the Imperial system sensible? It uses weird mixture of number
| > bases, including 12 and 14. Metric is at least consistent -- all the
| > units for, say, length, are related to each other by powers of ten.
| >
| > Alright, since this thread is on height, I am 5'12" tall.
| inch increment you can go to is 11 inches before you round up to the next
| highest foot.
I know. I was being ironic.
Saying 5'12" is like saying 1 metre and 100 cm. 1 metre 80 cm is the same as
5'11"; 1.80 m is the same as 5.92 feet. It's the same numbers. It just how you
write them down.
Pillars
Tim Robinson <timothy.robi...@ic.ac.uk> wrote in message
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Tim Robinson
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| > Saying 5'12" is like saying 1 metre and 100 cm. 1 metre 80 cm is the same
| as
| > 5'11"; 1.80 m is the same as 5.92 feet. It's the same numbers. It just how
| you
| > write them down.
|
No, 5'12" is 1.83 metres. I was just making the comparison between two silly
ways of giving measurements -- I said "is like" and not "is the same as".
Rodrigo Nuno Bragança da Cunha
I think the imperial system is crap, mostly because pf the weird numeric bases it uses (12, 6, 14).
Apart from that is just another system...
> drsquare wrote:
> I'm not talking about bases, I'm talking about size of units. Feet and
> inches are ideal sizes for measuring height/length etc. Metris has you
> going into decimal places and everything.
>
> >Alright, since this thread is on height, I am 5'12" tall.
>
> I.e. 6'
Gauss
Douglass wrote:
>I have no idea what 1.78 metres is. please mention your height in terms
>of feet and inches like everyone else.
Like everyone else? Actually you should mention your height in meters and
centimeters... like everyone else :)
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Gauss
Gauss
Douglass wrote:
>Then stop being a bitch and come to America once in a while where we go by
>feet and inches when measuring height, not using conversion tables for a
>simple little measurement. Realise that people around the world are
I live in America, and for as long as I can remember I've been going by
meters and centimeters...
Ohhh... you must mean come to the United States... :)
Anyways, isn't it a bit... unusual... to be getting into a fist fight over
distance units? I mean, if this was sci.physics or sci.metric or something
like that... but in ASF? :)
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Gauss
Gauss
>Or when talking to anyone who uses sensible units of measurement such
>as imperial. If a measuring system gives my height in a figure with
>two decimal places, it's a crap measuring system.
So round it off! :)
--
Gauss
Tim Robinson
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| The advantage to this is one can make calculations in one's head on the fly
| much quicker than using a metric system of measure, dealing with divisions
| of 2 rather than 10. I know firsthand, as I've worked in home building
| before...
I'm no builder, but I can multiply and divide by ten quicker than anything
else. Just add/remove a zero, or move the decimal point.
| Compared to probably every other part of the world, American construction is
| FAST. In may be shitty in many respects, but the marketplace here demands
| that houses and office buildings be finished in the matter of weeks
| sometimes. And Americans tear down the old and replace with new constantly,
| so the speed of the industry demands English units...
Surely there's other factors involved in building than mental arithmetic?
Douglass
> >I have no idea what 1.78 metres is. please mention your height in terms
> >of feet and inches like everyone else.
>
> Like everyone else? Actually you should mention your height in meters and
> centimeters... like everyone else :)
>
> --
> Gauss
>
That wasnt me...that was somebody else.
Pillars
To mas <jtcr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> This thread has been amusing...
>
> Being a citizen of the U.S., I think there actually IS logic to the
> "imperial system" as people are calling it. (In the U.S., I generally see
> people refer to it as English units, but anyway...)
>
> The U.S. Congress I believe, actually passed a law over 20 years ago
saying
> we had to convert to metric, but nobody really paid much attention.
>
> English units are still used here mostly because of our construction and
> manufacturing industries. Even though it looks like the system is based
on
> 12 inch divisions to a foot, the system is really based on successively
> dividing a unit of measure in half.
>
> The advantage to this is one can make calculations in one's head on the
fly
> much quicker than using a metric system of measure, dealing with divisions
> of 2 rather than 10. I know firsthand, as I've worked in home building
> before...
>
> Compared to probably every other part of the world, American construction
is
> FAST. In may be shitty in many respects, but the marketplace here demands
> that houses and office buildings be finished in the matter of weeks
> sometimes. And Americans tear down the old and replace with new
constantly,
> so the speed of the industry demands English units...
>
> -To mas
>
>
>
>
>
> "Gauss" <byz...@operamail.spamblock.com> wrote in message
> news:slrn9ogo27...@obrien.no-ip.com...
filterme
an understatement with:
>This thread has been amusing...
You're not kidding. And this is some of the worst. I've heard of
racism, nationalism, cultural and religious and even language bias,
but measurement prejudice? Allow me to try and get it back on topic to
ASF or just kill it.
>
>Being a citizen of the U.S., I think there actually IS logic to the
>"imperial system" as people are calling it. (In the U.S., I generally see
>people refer to it as English units, but anyway...)
I agree, chick-logic...
>
>The U.S. Congress I believe, actually passed a law over 20 years ago saying
>we had to convert to metric, but nobody really paid much attention.
>
This is about the same time Canada did the same thing. In fact,
because of the US initiative. We just did a better job at it. The
difference? EDUCATION. Something the states is NOT a world leader in.
>English units are still used here mostly because of our construction and
>manufacturing industries.
I use both. My kids don't know what inches are except for me telling
them. Everything in Canada gets done in metric EXCEPT for lumber
because we export 80% of it to the States. I have used metric
material. If the States actually succeeds in stopping Canadian
softwood imports, the complete retooling of the sawmills can be done.
But the States can not supply all their lumber needs and will
eventually have to buy from Canada again... in metric? Hey, it'll be
cheaper and money drives the market (shrug). You guys are going to
make it happen yourselves.
>Even though it looks like the system is based on
>12 inch divisions to a foot, the system is really based on successively
>dividing a unit of measure in half.
How many 32nds are in half a yard? 576.
500 mm to half a meter... nuff said.
>
>The advantage to this is one can make calculations in one's head on the fly
>much quicker than using a metric system of measure, dealing with divisions
>of 2 rather than 10. I know firsthand, as I've worked in home building
>before...
I do NOW and have for 18 yrs. Commercial and residential.
>
>Compared to probably every other part of the world, American construction is
>FAST.
Good thing you qualified that with a 'probably'.
Welcome to Canada. You want fast? Try a 4 month construction season.
3 guys, no union, 1600 sqft house built to R2000 standards, inspected
by the most arrogant gov't building inspectors anywhere, from bare lot
to occupancy in 3 weeks. Using subtrades, without inconvenient
overlapping, 2 weeks. My only bitch is the 8 months of paperwork
during hockey season. Damn Canadian gov't.
> In may be shitty in many respects,
I've seen the US building code, you're right. But hey, some 'people'
like trailer parks.
True story. Last year I fired a guy for being both lazy and stupid.
He's now a foreman in California. My apologies and may God be with
you...
> but the marketplace here demands
>that houses and office buildings be finished in the matter of weeks
>sometimes. And Americans tear down the old and replace with new constantly,
>so the speed of the industry demands English units...
Build it right the first time and you won't be wasting $$ replacing
it. You have to stop handing me such easy lines...
NOW, I'm NOT stupid and I KNOW the U.S. influences Canadian industry
to a very high degree and they are very similar in driving forces,
methods AND time constraints (we don't stop working in the winter),
and I'll be dealing with conversions for a long time to come. But,
let's look at this from a different, ON-TOPIC point of view.
IMHO, this is just excusing your FAILURE to EDUCATE with any excuse
you can come up with. Let me guess, when you get shot down by an HB
it's because SHE is fucked up, the lighting wasn't right, there were
too many CB's, she likes taller men, etc.
NOT because YOU COULD IMPROVE OR CHANGE YOUR METHODS.
IS IT POSSIBLE this is the mindset that has made America an AFC
wasteland filled with momma boys?
"I can't/don't want/shouldn't have to change so I will just excuse my
inability to learn. Mommy and I will manufacture a whole bevy of
reasons to support my fragile little ego trip and can remain convinced
I am the best in the world at everything and if something isn't right
I just need to throw more money at it. May I please buy you dinner?"
Take a good look around you and ask yourself, "Is this anywhere near
on target? Is this really how the U.S. has created the user-bitch
mentality in it's women and exported it to the rest of the world?"
Evolution happens. Man rules because of his ability to learn and adapt
to CHANGE. The female mindset typically resists change. It's possible
that if the cold war had continued Washington would have pushed
education and efficiency harder. Stronger, alpha presidents may have
been a necessity. The US mindset has been stagnant for decades without
any outside international pressures, but things change...
>
>
P.S.
I DO carry a calculator at work. To calculate IMPERIAL measurements.
As in 4 & 5/16 times 9 spindle spacings equals 69/16 x 9 equals 621/16
equals a 38 & 13/16" rail.
In metric that would be 110 mm spacings and 99 cm rail. No contest.
Oh, and I also use an electric level, a laser transit, a full set of
detailed plans and a cell phone so I can talk to the engineers,
suppliers and my accountant at any time. What do you use? A pendulum
and a good enough guess?
You should stop giving your industry a bad rep. REAL U.S. tradesmen
and craftsmen might not appreciate being portrayed as dummies.
P.P.S.
NOW, you have been given a completely different point of view. An
entire topic of fluff conversation. Can you turn it into a pattern
that could challenge an HB to want to try something new with you?
Expand your mine...
filterme
to mellow me out:
>Jesus Christs filterme. Now some of that was funny shit, but calm down...
ok, I'm calm, i'm calm, reeeal coool...
(snip my entire incredibly intelligent and nobel award winning reply)
NOW DIE STUPID THREAD DIE!
:-)
Tim Robinson
<snip American crap>
This is why I will never work in the US*...
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* Unless someone pays me a lot of money; and I reserve the right to sneer
daily in a smug European way.
EZPZ
Ha ha.
Are you joking with a post like that or are you serious? How sad
either way.