Approaching women on streets...
Ozone Radical
interested in approaching women on the streets to hopefully ask for
their number and hang out with them. Can someone give me a few pointers
on this? Thanks!
Scruff
good call, i keep passing mega hotties on the London Underground
recently, and i'd love to be able to get their numbers...
i've managed it only once and that was using a situational opener - i
commented on something she was wearing while we were both standing on a
train but there was plenty of luck on that one, and it wasnt as if she
was going anywhere, stuck on a train in a tunnel.
Any Gurus want to help out on opening to random people on the street?
CRX VTEC
and I call this "streetcleaning". My favourite place to do this is
Shaftesbury Avenue, in central London.
What worked was a winning smile and being well groomed, as well as DHV (act
like you OWN London, and the font of all knowledge) and C&F (keep the verbal
activity high, make fun of anything). K close on both occassions.
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Odious
"Ozone Radical" <ozoner...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I've written a lot on this subject.
Check the archives or my site at http://members.cox.net/odious
Ray Gordon
Looking to attract a woman into money?
>and average looks. I am
> interested in approaching women on the streets to hopefully ask for
> their number and hang out with them. Can someone give me a few pointers
> on this? Thanks!
You'd be better off hanging out with guys who get laid a lot and keeping
their overflow occupied.
I call that "Drafting."
--
"Google maintains the USENET." -- The Honorable R. Barclay Surrick, Eastern
District of PA Judge
From Parker v. Google, E.D.Pa. #04-cv-3918
Ozone Radical
Ray Gordon wrote:
> > I'm an AFC soon to hit 25 with a stable job
>
> Looking to attract a woman into money?
>
I didn't say that.
> >and average looks. I am
> > interested in approaching women on the streets to hopefully ask for
> > their number and hang out with them. Can someone give me a few pointers
> > on this? Thanks!
>
> You'd be better off hanging out with guys who get laid a lot and keeping
> their overflow occupied.
Well, but I'm not interested in hanging out with guys, I'm interested
in approaching women on the streets.
To get my point across, if I go to a grocery store to buy apples, I buy
apples. I may be better off with oranges but thats not what I want to
do. Get it?
>
> I call that "Drafting."
Call it whatever you want.
Ray Gordon
>>
>> Looking to attract a woman into money?
>>
>
> I didn't say that.
Why mention the job then?
>> >and average looks. I am
>> > interested in approaching women on the streets to hopefully ask for
>> > their number and hang out with them. Can someone give me a few pointers
>> > on this? Thanks!
>>
>> You'd be better off hanging out with guys who get laid a lot and keeping
>> their overflow occupied.
>
> Well, but I'm not interested in hanging out with guys, I'm interested
> in approaching women on the streets.
You want a shortcut to get laid? Hang out with a PUA.
Want to approach women on the streets? Go for it!
> To get my point across, if I go to a grocery store to buy apples, I buy
> apples. I may be better off with oranges but thats not what I want to
> do. Get it?
Well this group is supposedly about seduction, not alt.street.approach.
Not that there's anything wrong with that....
>> I call that "Drafting."
>
> Call it whatever you want.
It works.
Ray Gordon
Best bet is to find a busline that goes through a university (tons of hot
women in college, since stripping is a common way to pay for it).
I don't seek this out, but in my city there aren't many buses, and I live
near UPenn, and just noticed the phenomenon.
The runs from center city to Penn are stacked with hotties during class
hours. The same can be applied almost anywhere.
Some colleges even have their own bus systems that students could work.
--
Johannes Seppi
>>> I'm an AFC soon to hit 25 with a stable job and average looks. I am
>>> interested in approaching women on the streets to hopefully ask for
>>> their number and hang out with them. Can someone give me a few pointers
>>> on this? Thanks!
>> good call, i keep passing mega hotties on the London Underground
>> recently, and i'd love to be able to get their numbers...
>>
>> i've managed it only once and that was using a situational opener - i
>> commented on something she was wearing while we were both standing on a
>> train but there was plenty of luck on that one, and it wasnt as if she
>> was going anywhere, stuck on a train in a tunnel.
>>
>> Any Gurus want to help out on opening to random people on the street?
>
> Best bet is to find a busline that goes through a university (tons of hot
> women in college, since stripping is a common way to pay for it).
>
Do you really think girls go to college, because they are beautiful
enough to work as strippers? That's a sick mind you have, Ray.
[...]
Johannes
jjt
>> Best bet is to find a busline that goes through a university (tons of hot
>> women in college, since stripping is a common way to pay for it).
>>
>This last sentence gives a perfect insight into your twisted thinking.
>Do you really think girls go to college, because they are beautiful
>enough to work as strippers? That's a sick mind you have, Ray.
Sounds like grp-ie hunts for women on bus lines..
Maybe sort of an 'Aqualung fetish?
He drools his herpes infested spit as they walk by,
mumbling under his breath...'wishing'..things...
Yup, one sick fuck..that's grp-ie...
I bet he pretends he's one of them..and it gets him 'off'...
JJTj
>>>>I already have a laywer who has won a big defamation case in MA willing to
>>>>take a free look at my file concerning you. Now I just have one more page
>>>>to fax him.
"..Tell us all again about this
'lawyer' in MASS you have ready
to sue me? Is there a reason WHY
you won't name 'him (her?)' BESIDES
the reason there ISN't any lawyer and
it's just you spewing another cowardly,
impotent threat..? Just WHAT is stopping U..?.."
I'm all ready to call him/her NOW..
Tell us again, coward, why you are too scared to
provide this person's name? You stated you have
spoken\fax'ed this person about me, yet you cannot
NAME this person. You have my contact INFO, I have
posted it here..tell the world, child molester...
Gunwitch
A big technique I use, is what I call "the hover".
Club game wise this isn't very important, but street game wise it is a
killer.
Gotta examine first things first, the chick doesn't know you so
doesn't know you arw safe, and chicks don't wanna feel like a slut.
So directly approaching them makes them feel as if you could want
something/be a danger, or that you want sex and have selected her, so
you are trying to make her a "slut".
Is what I will do is when I see my target, I pretend not to notice her
at all, and go stand near her, and look at something in her vicinity. I
wait until out the corner of my eye I notice her notice me invading her
space.
At this point is when I pretend that I have noticed her notice me. And
I look at her and say hey.
I get a hey back, and then I open with my usual sequence.
This makes her feel as if she has noticed me, and her noticing me is
what made me notice her, so "it just happened" vs I "he approached me
and fucked me".
Preferable to her social conditioning, and preferable to her feeling
of safety.
Two birds with one stone.
www.dynamicsexlife.com
Free seduction audio tutorial!
Calibr...@gmail.com
I've used that exact same techique... It works well...
I've also used a passing wave... It works when you're traveling in
opposite directions... When you see her on approach -- approx 18-20 ft,
you act as if you're acknowedging some one behind her... Not a wave
just a "oh, hey{smile}" expression... Dont look directly at her, just
past her point of direct eye contact. From this distance she's not able
to tell exactly if you're looking at her... at approx 10-15ft fully
acknowledge this "ghost" person with a "Whats up" gesture of some
sorts... be it a wave, a head nodd what ever. Given the average pace
people tend to walk, you should be about 5ft from her once this gesture
is done. From here my experiences has her kind of "shaking off" that
"oh, i thought he was talking to me" at which point I open with a role
reversal (remember she's looking at you trying to determine if she
knows you or not) So I neg her into explaining why she's staring at
me... which she inevitably explains the entire encounter... You're in.
Teddybear
"Ray Gordon" <R...@cybersheet.com> wrote in message
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>>> I'm an AFC soon to hit 25 with a stable job and average looks. I am
>>> interested in approaching women on the streets to hopefully ask for
>>> their number and hang out with them. Can someone give me a few pointers
>>> on this? Thanks!
>>
>> good call, i keep passing mega hotties on the London Underground
>> recently, and i'd love to be able to get their numbers...
>>
>> i've managed it only once and that was using a situational opener - i
>> commented on something she was wearing while we were both standing on a
>> train but there was plenty of luck on that one, and it wasnt as if she
>> was going anywhere, stuck on a train in a tunnel.
>>
>> Any Gurus want to help out on opening to random people on the street?
>
> Best bet is to find a busline that goes through a university (tons of hot
> women in college, since stripping is a common way to pay for it).
>
> I don't seek this out, but in my city there aren't many buses, and I live
> near UPenn, and just noticed the phenomenon.
>
> The runs from center city to Penn are stacked with hotties during class
> hours. The same can be applied almost anywhere.
>
> Some colleges even have their own bus systems that students could work.
>
mentor, Wyle E Coyote......
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Ray Gordon
> At this point is when I pretend that I have noticed her notice me. And
> I look at her and say hey.
>
> I get a hey back, and then I open with my usual sequence.
>
> This makes her feel as if she has noticed me, and her noticing me is
> what made me notice her, so "it just happened" vs I "he approached me
> and fucked me".
Women are so fucking stupid, and that's why they get played so often.
Alex
R...@cybersheet.com wrote on 8/7/06 11:15 PM:
>
>> At this point is when I pretend that I have noticed her notice me. And
>> I look at her and say hey.
>>
>> I get a hey back, and then I open with my usual sequence.
>>
>> This makes her feel as if she has noticed me, and her noticing me is
>> what made me notice her, so "it just happened" vs I "he approached me
>> and fucked me".
>
> Women are so fucking stupid, and that's why they get played so often.
>
I have nothing to add.
Gordon's words can speak for themselves.
Odious
>>> interested in approaching women on the streets to hopefully ask for
>>> their number and hang out with them. Can someone give me a few pointers
>>> on this? Thanks!
>>
>> good call, i keep passing mega hotties on the London Underground
>> recently, and i'd love to be able to get their numbers...
>>
>> i've managed it only once and that was using a situational opener - i
>> commented on something she was wearing while we were both standing on a
>> train but there was plenty of luck on that one, and it wasnt as if she
>> was going anywhere, stuck on a train in a tunnel.
>>
>> Any Gurus want to help out on opening to random people on the street?
>
> Best bet is to find a busline that goes through a university
Like the one that runs by the slumy roach trap you live in?
(tons of hot
> women in college, since stripping is a common way to pay for it).
>
> I don't seek this out, but in my city there aren't many buses, and I live
> near UPenn, and just noticed the phenomenon.
>
> The runs from center city to Penn are stacked with hotties during class
> hours. The same can be applied almost anywhere.
>
And strangely none of them want anything to do with you.
> Some colleges even have their own bus systems that students could work.
>
Or maybe they could hit on women at the pizza place across the street.
Odious
>> I'm an AFC soon to hit 25 with a stable job
>
> Looking to attract a woman into money?
>
>>and average looks. I am
>> interested in approaching women on the streets to hopefully ask for
>> their number and hang out with them. Can someone give me a few pointers
>> on this? Thanks!
>
> You'd be better off hanging out with guys who get laid a lot and keeping
> their overflow occupied.
>
> I call that "Drafting."
>
Funny that used to be called fucking the hooker with herpes because none of
the other johns want her..
Odious
>
>> At this point is when I pretend that I have noticed her notice me. And
>> I look at her and say hey.
>>
>> I get a hey back, and then I open with my usual sequence.
>>
>> This makes her feel as if she has noticed me, and her noticing me is
>> what made me notice her, so "it just happened" vs I "he approached me
>> and fucked me".
>
> Women are so fucking stupid, and that's why they get played so often.
>
Enough about your mother.
speeding
Welcome to the group. But, this will be sarcastic...
What you just asked is the equivelent of asking "I just turned 16. I'm
interested in cars. Can you tell me how to drive one?"
No. Not in one answer. Not in something that basic. What I can do is poit
you to places you can get more information... and here's a goo dplace to
start too... but...
http://www.mysterymethod.com/forum/
http://www.askmen.com/
http://changingminds.org/
http://www.charismaarts.com/
http://www.fastseduction.com/
particularly... http://www.fastseduction.com/youarenew
http://gunwitch.fastseduction.com/
http://members.cox.net/odious/
http://www.speed-seduction.com/ssnews.asp
http://www.seductionreport.com/
http://www.cybersheet.com/
http://www.socialskillz.com/
http://www.bristollair.com/
These are good places to start. Then there's plenty more reading.
Also... look up information on the Newbie Challenge... basically...
Go out 4 days a week for 4 hours per day.
Approach 4 women per hour and talk to them. (fat, ugly, hot, whatever)
Don't worry about picking them up... but if opportunity knocks... answer
the door!!!
Do this for 4 weeks.
4 * 4 * 4 * 4 = 256 women...
The idea being to get comfortable just walking up to women and talking to
them.
speeding
news:1154962825....@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
You have to improvise. Just open with whatever comes to mind...
"I like your shoes. Where'd you get them?"
"Can you tell me where London Square is?" (particularly effective if you
are standing under a huge sign that says London Square)
"Hi. I just had to walk up to you and tell you... you are stunning. I'd
like to see if your personality is as stunning as your beauty."
"Xcuse me. I heard London women are the nicest on the Earth. Is that
true?"
"Xcuse me, miss. I'm an American tourist and I's wondern if you could
tell me wher the best place are round here to meet women?" (use a heavy
British accent... or switch American and your accent to it's clear you
AREN'T a tourist.)
speeding
you'd treat your black sheep uncle that molests children, dreams of
raping gymnasts, celebrated the 9/11 attacks, dreams of being a woman, is
a man hating feminist, has a great deal of knowledge about whores, and is
a self proclaimed expert at everything but unable to prove anything.
I'm sure others here can explain it better than I.
"Ray Gordon" <R...@cybersheet.com> wrote in
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speeding
dnShinponnEXZn...@pghconnect.com:
>
>> At this point is when I pretend that I have noticed her notice me. And
>> I look at her and say hey.
>>
>> I get a hey back, and then I open with my usual sequence.
>>
>> This makes her feel as if she has noticed me, and her noticing me is
>> what made me notice her, so "it just happened" vs I "he approached me
>> and fucked me".
>
> Women are so fucking stupid, and that's why they get played so often.
Oh wow. This is so clearly an insight into the female mind. He MUST be a
genius when it comes to picking up women. I think I'll buy his books. What
bookstores can they be found in?
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jjt
>Women are so fucking stupid, and that's why they get played so often.
---- Proof of Gordon Roy Parker stating women deserve to be raped & murdered :
>>From: r____a__...@juno.com (Outfoxing The Foxes)
>>Subject: Re: Need A Piece Of Advice
>>Date: 1998/11/02
>>Message-ID: <19981102.144604.2648...@juno.com>
>>Organization: mail...@nym.alias.net
>>Mail-To-News-Contact: postm...@nym.alias.net
>>X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,3-5,10-14,23-29,32-45,47-50,55-58,60-61,74-77,
>>79-87,95-97,99-102,105-112,121-122,130-131,138-139,146-147,
>>156-157,160-161,163-164,181-182,196-197,199
>>Newsgroups: alt.romance
>>Look at the way women treat "losers" and you will see
>>why they wind up beaten, murdered, raped, robbed, disrespected, and
>>oppressed. It is because women DESERVE it. The ones who harmed me
>>should thank their lucky stars that I didn't react like a primate and
>>just dump them six feet underground. Unfortunately, premeditated murder
>>would ruin this ethical thing I have going for me, although on a primal
>>level it is quite appealing.
jjt
>>Women are so fucking stupid, and that's why they get played so often.
>---- Proof of Gordon Roy Parker stating women deserve to be raped & murdered :
>>>From: r____a__...@juno.com (Outfoxing The Foxes)
>>>Subject: Re: Need A Piece Of Advice
>>>Date: 1998/11/02
>>>Message-ID: <19981102.144604.2648...@juno.com>
>>>Organization: mail...@nym.alias.net
>>>Mail-To-News-Contact: postm...@nym.alias.net
>>>X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,3-5,10-14,23-29,32-45,47-50,55-58,60-61,74-77,
>>>79-87,95-97,99-102,105-112,121-122,130-131,138-139,146-147,
>>>156-157,160-161,163-164,181-182,196-197,199
>>>Newsgroups: alt.romance
>>> The ones who harmed me..
What about them..a court would LOVE to hear about them...
JJTj
Parker's a coward, ya all know it,
and he don't do squat about it.
Ain't no big secret, the records show,
His own words make no doubt of it.
Listen, it don't really matter to me
Have yer dolls re-write your fantasy(s)..
You see, you just don't live in reality..
Somewhere, somehow, some slag woman
Must of kicked yer ass, big time.
Stole yer job, gave you herpes,
Laughed at you on the flip side.
grp-ie, it don't make no difference to me
You can just blame it all on your mom-miee
You see, you just don't live in reality..
Coward, you know where you belong to be..
Child Molester, You ain't the first
To "..wish.." death on children like a jerk
'Right now' just ain't real enough for you
It's one of those things you keep failing to do
Some-where, some-how, some lawyers
Must of beat yer ass, legal-wise.
Maybe some "..fuckin' judge..",
Exposed your "..failures.." in reprise
grp-ie, it don't really matter to me
You C, I know what it's like to free
grp-ie, you don't mean shit to a tree
slowly dying in your '..ray-ality..'..
chloe
Ozone Radical wrote:
> I'm an AFC soon to hit 25 with a stable job and average looks. I am
> interested in approaching women on the streets to hopefully ask for
> their number and hang out with them. Can someone give me a few pointers
> on this? Thanks!
I will not try to disuade you from this other than to say that many
women, myself included, hate being accosted on the street. It is
exceedingly intrusive, especially when accompanied by stupid or lurid
lines and comments.
chloe
But that's exactly how I worked my way thru college. And you'd have a
much better chance to get to know one of those girls away from the
club.
You're right, however, most college girls are NOT working as dancers.
And this is important: dancers away from the clubs are not always
obviously dancers.
dracozna
Where do women like to be approached?
And how can men see/notice that a woman wants to be approached?
chloe
Ray Gordon wrote:
> Women are so fucking stupid, and that's why they get played so often.
Not so stupid as to fall for a greasy bag of prawns though, right?
LOL!
chloe
The first and most obvious answer is 'in places where people go to
actually meet other people'.
Clubs, churches, art exhibits, carnivals, street faires, farmer's
market, and, a couple of my faves, the arboretum or beach.
I met the guy I'm seeing at Les Schwabs. We started talking while our
cars were being serviced.
I'm not saying that picking someone up on the street is out of the
question. It's just not the optimum venue.
He made a positive comment about my car. (I love my little immacualte
buzzbomb.)
How do you know a woman does NOT want to be approached? Her attention
is focused elsewhere. She's not looking around at the people. Study her
body language. If she appears in a hurry. That's when I least like
being bothered. When I am busy. (Of course I am giving MY opinion.)
How can you tell that she might be open to an approach? She's relaxed,
taking her time. She's looking at the people, especially the men going
by. Or she's in a place where people are picking each other up. I am
not shy about sending a smile out as a kind of signal.
The main thing (for me) is don't be an a**hole or jerk. Also - have
something interesting to say.
I don't like guys who complain and whine. And I really hate dealing
with negative people.
What I liked about my bf right off:
He wasn't pushy, he didn't drop all these stupid pick-up lines (believe
me, I've heard them all), and he was funny and cute. He didn't look or
act like a "playa" type. He wasn't all cocky and he didn't strut and
brag. He was wearing a faded blue t-shirt and old jeans. In fact, he
acted a touch shy.
And I noticed he had a surfboard rack on his rather beat up car. (I dig
surfers.)
So I asked him about surfing and he started talking (a lot) about
surfing and I could see his enthusiasm. I liked that.
So I hinted - I said the Schwabs coffee really sucked and he suggested
we go to a Starbucks - and that was it.
Johannes Seppi
college. No problem with that, if you ask me. But the way Ray put it,
girls in college are hor because they are working as strippers.
With him it is always the same: men get to where they are because of
their merits, women only because of their beauty.
Johannes
Gunwitch
Yeah that is what the hover is for. Don't try to disuade him from
approaching women outside of the designated areas of clubs and bars,
just because you imagine all guys to burst in and start saying stupid
shit.
Some of us have things figured out a tad bit better than that.
www.dynamicsexlife.com
Get laid not just liked!
dracozna
Never hurts to warn him though ;-)
Some guys may have figured it out themselves, but I've also seen some
guys going completely wrong with it.
chloe
Johannes Seppi wrote:
> Well, I don't doubt that that was how you worked your way through
> college. No problem with that, if you ask me. But the way Ray put it,
> girls in college are hor because they are working as strippers.
It's a common enough perception. But then how many dancers does he
REALLY know? There are all types. There were married women - one I knew
was helping to save so that her and her husband could buy a house.
> With him it is always the same: men get to where they are because of
> their merits, women only because of their beauty.
>
> Johannes
And we all know it is not true so I don't even address that issue with
him.
But I also asked him several question in another thread that he
completely ignored.
chloe
I think the more outside the obvious pick-up places you are, the cooler
you're going to have to be. You're making a kind of cold start. But
then, when I go out to clubs I am more on my guard too.
Ray Gordon
>> women in college, since stripping is a common way to pay for it).
>>
> This last sentence gives a perfect insight into your twisted thinking. Do
> you really think girls go to college, because they are beautiful enough to
> work as strippers? That's a sick mind you have, Ray.
More like many girls HAVE to strip to afford college, and the ugly ones are
left out.
What's sick is that ugly women lose out on education to looks bias in the
job market.
--
"Google maintains the USENET." -- The Honorable R. Barclay Surrick, Eastern
District of PA Judge
From Parker v. Google, E.D.Pa. #04-cv-3918
"appointment of counsel was unwarranted given Parker's abilities as a writer
and presenter of arguments"
From Page 6 of the ruling in Parker v. University of Pennsylvania, #04-3688,
Third Circuit Court Of Appeals.
Ray Gordon
>> Do you really think girls go to college, because they are beautiful
>> enough to work as strippers? That's a sick mind you have, Ray.
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> Johannes
>
> But that's exactly how I worked my way thru college.
For the mafia. Being a whore. Be proud, whore.
>And you'd have a
> much better chance to get to know one of those girls away from the
> club.
One less reason to tip her IN the club. Thanks for the advice!
You are PROFITABLE!! You SAVE ME MONEY!!
Bless your mafia-whore heart!
> You're right, however, most college girls are NOT working as dancers.
> And this is important: dancers away from the clubs are not always
> obviously dancers.
Maybe not to the untrained eye.
Ray Gordon
That's what the Harvard research suggests.
But JS's qualifications humble theirs. What do those silly Ph.D.s know?
Ray Gordon
>
> Not so stupid as to fall for a greasy bag of prawns though, right?
> LOL!
Wanna BET?
Ray Gordon
>> interested in approaching women on the streets to hopefully ask for
>> their number and hang out with them. Can someone give me a few pointers
>> on this? Thanks!
>
> I will not try to disuade you from this other than to say that many
> women, myself included, hate being accosted on the street.
And many pickup gurus can prove that doing this WORKS. They say women LIE
about what they respond to, and would cite your post as an example.
You're just bitter because men figured out your gender.
>It is
> exceedingly intrusive, especially when accompanied by stupid or lurid
> lines and comments.
But if it's a "cool guy" and it "just happens..."
(what she's saying is she hates being accosted BY MEN WHO DON"T HAVE GAME).
Ray Gordon
>>> interested in approaching women on the streets to hopefully ask for
>>> their number and hang out with them. Can someone give me a few pointers
>>> on this? Thanks!
>>
>> I will not try to disuade you from this other than to say that many
>> women, myself included, hate being accosted on the street. It is
>> exceedingly intrusive, especially when accompanied by stupid or lurid
>> lines and comments.
>>
> Well since you're here to give your advice/opinion ;-)
>
> Where do women like to be approached?
Not where; BY WHOM.
> And how can men see/notice that a woman wants to be approached?
If she's outside, she wants to be approached, but only by guys she wants.
You think those slutty outfits are an accident?
Ray Gordon
>> >> interested in approaching women on the streets to hopefully ask for
>> >> their number and hang out with them. Can someone give me a few
>> >> pointers
>> >> on this? Thanks!
>> >
>> > I will not try to disuade you from this other than to say that many
>> > women, myself included, hate being accosted on the street. It is
>> > exceedingly intrusive, especially when accompanied by stupid or lurid
>> > lines and comments.
>> >
>> Well since you're here to give your advice/opinion ;-)
>>
>> Where do women like to be approached?
>> And how can men see/notice that a woman wants to be approached?
>
> The first and most obvious answer is 'in places where people go to
> actually meet other people'.
> Clubs, churches, art exhibits, carnivals, street faires, farmer's
> market, and, a couple of my faves, the arboretum or beach.
If they are hot......
> I met the guy I'm seeing at Les Schwabs. We started talking while our
> cars were being serviced.
> I'm not saying that picking someone up on the street is out of the
> question. It's just not the optimum venue.
There IS no optimum venue, only optimum men.
Five to one she's fucked a boss at a strip club, and/or a customer.
She just can't admit it. Mafia whores are like that.
> He made a positive comment about my car. (I love my little immacualte
> buzzbomb.)
So he slipped in under the radar. He got sex by pretending not to want it.
> How do you know a woman does NOT want to be approached? Her attention
> is focused elsewhere. She's not looking around at the people. Study her
> body language. If she appears in a hurry. That's when I least like
> being bothered. When I am busy. (Of course I am giving MY opinion.)
Unless the guy is hot.
> How can you tell that she might be open to an approach? She's relaxed,
> taking her time. She's looking at the people, especially the men going
> by. Or she's in a place where people are picking each other up. I am
> not shy about sending a smile out as a kind of signal.
>
> The main thing (for me) is don't be an a**hole or jerk.
Yet the ex-boyfriend was a jerk, so the jerks got them.
>Also - have
> something interesting to say.
> I don't like guys who complain and whine.
Because those men don't have perfect lives, and that makes them unworthy to
a mafia whore.
Women "complain and whine" too, but Captain Saveaho shows up.
What she's really saying is "I don't like men who HAVE SOMETHING TO COMPLAIN
AND WHINE ABOUT."
>And I really hate dealing
> with negative people.
See above-me, the opposite of BELOW-ME.
> What I liked about my bf right off:
> He wasn't pushy, he didn't drop all these stupid pick-up lines (believe
> me, I've heard them all),
Apparently not.
He used a "situational opener" straight off the web. Under the radar. And
he got a dumb mafia whore (who's good in bed probably) as a prize for it.
See how stupid these chicks are?
Of course, when something BETTER comes along for him or her, it ends, and he
also likely cheats on her, since if she wants him, other women will too,
etc. etc. etc.
I bet she gets cheated on a lot. What you see here from here is pure false
bravado, as false as the name she gives.
>and he was funny and cute.
>He didn't look or
> act like a "playa" type.
True players never do. They appear like "great guys."
>He wasn't all cocky and he didn't strut and
> brag.
They do it subtly so that dumb mafia whores can't pick up on it.
>He was wearing a faded blue t-shirt and old jeans. In fact, he
> acted a touch shy.
Sex with a mafia whore doesn't happen by accident.
> And I noticed he had a surfboard rack on his rather beat up car. (I dig
> surfers.)
Surf gimmick. More ASF theory.
> So I asked him about surfing and he started talking (a lot) about
> surfing and I could see his enthusiasm.
The mafia whore is too dumb when it comes to information so she reads his
emotions.
"I'm not a mafia whore and if you ever say I am again I'll have Vito...."
>I liked that.
> So I hinted - I said the Schwabs coffee really sucked and he suggested
> we go to a Starbucks - and that was it.
Venue change.
He laid a mafia whore.
Ray Gordon
>> women, myself included, hate being accosted on the street. It is
>> exceedingly intrusive, especially when accompanied by stupid or lurid
>> lines and comments.
>
> Yeah that is what the hover is for. Don't try to disuade him from
> approaching women outside of the designated areas of clubs and bars,
> just because you imagine all guys to burst in and start saying stupid
> shit.
>
> Some of us have things figured out a tad bit better than that.
Dumb mafia whores like "Chloe" just can't accept that men are smarter than
she will ever be.
Good thing for the men.
TwistyCreek
"Ray Gordon" <R...@cybersheet.com> wrote:
>
> >> Best bet is to find a busline that goes through a university (tons of hot
> >> women in college, since stripping is a common way to pay for it).
> >>
> > This last sentence gives a perfect insight into your twisted thinking. Do
> > you really think girls go to college, because they are beautiful enough to
> > work as strippers? That's a sick mind you have, Ray.
>
> More like many girls HAVE to strip to afford college, and the ugly ones are
> left out.
>
> What's sick is that ugly women lose out on education to looks bias in the
> job market.
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TwistyCreek
Readers are often puzzled by the behavior of the previous
chloe
Ray Gordon wrote:
> >> Best bet is to find a busline that goes through a university (tons of hot
> >> women in college, since stripping is a common way to pay for it).
> >>
> > This last sentence gives a perfect insight into your twisted thinking. Do
> > you really think girls go to college, because they are beautiful enough to
> > work as strippers? That's a sick mind you have, Ray.
>
> More like many girls HAVE to strip to afford college, and the ugly ones are
> left out.
Yes, sort of like fat slow short guys are left out of college
basketball. So what?
> What's sick is that ugly women lose out on education to looks bias in the
> job market.
>
> --
Well, you can date them - maybe that will compensate?
chloe
Ray Gordon wrote:
> >> This last sentence gives a perfect insight into your twisted thinking.
> >> Do you really think girls go to college, because they are beautiful
> >> enough to work as strippers? That's a sick mind you have, Ray.
> >>
> >> [...]
> >>
> >> Johannes
> >
> > But that's exactly how I worked my way thru college.
>
> For the mafia. Being a whore. Be proud, whore.
Try to understand, Ray, I wasn't a prostitute, I was a dancer. The
mafia may own all the strip clubs where YOU live, but they do not out
here.
> >And you'd have a
> > much better chance to get to know one of those girls away from the
> > club.
>
> One less reason to tip her IN the club. Thanks for the advice!
Then don't tip Ray - nobody cares.
> You are PROFITABLE!! You SAVE ME MONEY!!
That doesn't make any sense. I don't know how to respond.
> Bless your mafia-whore heart!
See above.
> > You're right, however, most college girls are NOT working as dancers.
> > And this is important: dancers away from the clubs are not always
> > obviously dancers.
>
> Maybe not to the untrained eye.
I do not believe you qualify, based on the things you've said.
chloe
Ray Gordon wrote:
> Dumb mafia whores like "Chloe" just can't accept that men are smarter than
> she will ever be.
Which men? I would never claim to be the sharpest knife in the drawer.
But I am not convinced that YOU are smarter than I am either.
Let's just say that I'm not stupid enough to be seduced by a guy who
drags a bag of greasy prawns into a strip club.
(Don't you wish you never said that?)
> Good thing for the men.
I like smart men. I thought it was so very cool when we walked through
the art museum and he knew so much about the painters and how to look
at the paintings.
chloe
Ray Gordon wrote:
> >> >> I'm an AFC soon to hit 25 with a stable job and average looks. I am
> >> >> interested in approaching women on the streets to hopefully ask for
> >> >> their number and hang out with them. Can someone give me a few
> >> >> pointers
> >> >> on this? Thanks!
> >> >
> >> > I will not try to disuade you from this other than to say that many
> >> > women, myself included, hate being accosted on the street. It is
> >> > exceedingly intrusive, especially when accompanied by stupid or lurid
> >> > lines and comments.
> >> >
> >> Well since you're here to give your advice/opinion ;-)
> >>
> >> Where do women like to be approached?
> >> And how can men see/notice that a woman wants to be approached?
> >
> > The first and most obvious answer is 'in places where people go to
> > actually meet other people'.
> > Clubs, churches, art exhibits, carnivals, street faires, farmer's
> > market, and, a couple of my faves, the arboretum or beach.
>
> If they are hot......
Sure, hot guys have an advantage. So what? Don't "hot girls?"
> > I met the guy I'm seeing at Les Schwabs. We started talking while our
> > cars were being serviced.
> > I'm not saying that picking someone up on the street is out of the
> > question. It's just not the optimum venue.
>
> There IS no optimum venue, only optimum men.
Maybe...
> Five to one she's fucked a boss at a strip club, and/or a customer.
You lost.
> She just can't admit it. Mafia whores are like that.
(shrug) It didn't happen. Believe what you want.
> > He made a positive comment about my car. (I love my little immacualte
> > buzzbomb.)
>
> So he slipped in under the radar. He got sex by pretending not to want it.
It was obvious that he was interested. I can tell. He wasn't pretending
- anything.
> > How do you know a woman does NOT want to be approached? Her attention
> > is focused elsewhere. She's not looking around at the people. Study her
> > body language. If she appears in a hurry. That's when I least like
> > being bothered. When I am busy. (Of course I am giving MY opinion.)
>
> Unless the guy is hot.
You repeat yourself. I'm sorry you're not "hot". Not my fault.
> > How can you tell that she might be open to an approach? She's relaxed,
> > taking her time. She's looking at the people, especially the men going
> > by. Or she's in a place where people are picking each other up. I am
> > not shy about sending a smile out as a kind of signal.
> >
> > The main thing (for me) is don't be an a**hole or jerk.
>
> Yet the ex-boyfriend was a jerk, so the jerks got them.
No - I don't date jerks. I stay away from them. My "ex" wasn't a jerk.
He had some maturity issues...as did I. We were younger.
> >Also - have
> > something interesting to say.
> > I don't like guys who complain and whine.
>
> Because those men don't have perfect lives, and that makes them unworthy to
> a mafia whore.
Oh Ray - you're so sad.
> Women "complain and whine" too, but Captain Saveaho shows up.
What?
> What she's really saying is "I don't like men who HAVE SOMETHING TO COMPLAIN
> AND WHINE ABOUT."
Is that what I said? Please (LOL!) tell me what I said.
> >And I really hate dealing
> > with negative people.
>
> See above-me, the opposite of BELOW-ME.
Not into negativity Ray. Does bad shit exist in the world? Yes! Do I
want to dwell on it? No!
> > What I liked about my bf right off:
> > He wasn't pushy, he didn't drop all these stupid pick-up lines (believe
> > me, I've heard them all),
>
> Apparently not.
Are you kidding?
> He used a "situational opener" straight off the web. Under the radar. And
> he got a dumb mafia whore (who's good in bed probably) as a prize for it.
> See how stupid these chicks are?
Hahahahahahaha...poor Ray.
> Of course, when something BETTER comes along for him or her, it ends, and he
> also likely cheats on her, since if she wants him, other women will too,
> etc. etc. etc.
How predictable. You can't imagine being utterly mistaken about
everything - can you?
> I bet she gets cheated on a lot. What you see here from here is pure false
> bravado, as false as the name she gives.
My name is false, but I am not. I know better than post under my real
name.
> >and he was funny and cute.
> >He didn't look or
> > act like a "playa" type.
>
> True players never do. They appear like "great guys."
Trust me - he's no player.
> >He wasn't all cocky and he didn't strut and
> > brag.
>
> They do it subtly so that dumb mafia whores can't pick up on it.
You actually know so little about the real world. Who do you think
REALLY picked up whom?
> >He was wearing a faded blue t-shirt and old jeans. In fact, he
> > acted a touch shy.
>
> Sex with a mafia whore doesn't happen by accident.
LOL! Your tired insults, so often repeated, and so completely off the
mark, have dull and worn teeth.
> > And I noticed he had a surfboard rack on his rather beat up car. (I dig
> > surfers.)
>
> Surf gimmick. More ASF theory.
I've seen him surf. It's not a gimmick. (He handles it!) You can only
think in terms of gimmicks and games. Is that because - what? You have
no real hand to play?
> > So I asked him about surfing and he started talking (a lot) about
> > surfing and I could see his enthusiasm.
>
> The mafia whore is too dumb when it comes to information so she reads his
> emotions.
I was there - you weren't.
> >I liked that.
> > So I hinted - I said the Schwabs coffee really sucked and he suggested
> > we go to a Starbucks - and that was it.
>
> Venue change.
>
> He laid a mafia whore.
Jealousy ... so sad. Where's your "game" Ray?
HeeroYuy
"chloe" <mz_sm...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1155087623.6...@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
And yet another woman tells Gordon he's full of shit.
Gunwitch
Ray Gordon wrote:
> But if it's a "cool guy" and it "just happens..."
>
> (what she's saying is she hates being accosted BY MEN WHO DON"T HAVE GAME).
Agreed.
Alex
mz_sm...@yahoo.com wrote on 8/8/06 9:40 PM:
> <point-by-point rebuttal of Gordon's insanity snipped>
>
> Jealousy ... so sad. Where's your "game" Ray?
>
You're looking at it.
Johannes Seppi
But why let fact interfere with your delusions?
> But JS's qualifications humble theirs. What do those silly Ph.D.s know?
>
Oh Ray, I am arguing with you and your "theories". And be assured, my
qualifications certainly humble yours. Silly you may be, but Ph.D. you
certainly aint.
Johannes
Johannes Seppi
>>> Best bet is to find a busline that goes through a university (tons of hot
>>> women in college, since stripping is a common way to pay for it).
>>>
>> This last sentence gives a perfect insight into your twisted thinking. Do
>> you really think girls go to college, because they are beautiful enough to
>> work as strippers? That's a sick mind you have, Ray.
>
> More like many girls HAVE to strip to afford college, and the ugly ones are
> left out.
>
would have to show at least two things:
1) that there is a significant number of college girls working as
strippers, who otherwise wouldn't be able to afford college. To qualify
as "many" the percentage should be around 25%, IMO, but we can haggle
about the number.
2) that there is an equally high number of "ugly" girls, who are denied
going to college based on their looks.
> What's sick is that ugly women lose out on education to looks bias in the
> job market.
>
Well, go ahead and prove the above, if you can.
Johannes
Johannes Seppi
===========================
gamy, a.
("geImI) Also 9 gamey. [f. game n. + -y1.]
1. Abounding in game. Of a sportsman: Bent upon game.
2. Spirited, plucky: showing fight to the last.
3. Having the flavour of game that has been kept till it is ‘high’.
4. Racy, spicy, salacious; scandalous, disreputable. Chiefly U.S.
Oxford English Dictionary
===========================
Well, you can pick your meaning from the above list ;-)
Johannes
Ray Gordon
>> >> enough to work as strippers? That's a sick mind you have, Ray.
>> >>
>> >> [...]
>> >>
>> >> Johannes
>> >
>> > But that's exactly how I worked my way thru college.
>>
>> For the mafia. Being a whore. Be proud, whore.
>
> Try to understand, Ray, I wasn't a prostitute,
Of course she wasn't.
>I was a dancer.
Of course she was (just a dancer). Jennifer lopez is a dancer. Strippers
are not dancers.
>The
> mafia may own all the strip clubs where YOU live, but they do not out
> here.
Of course they don't.
>> >And you'd have a
>> > much better chance to get to know one of those girls away from the
>> > club.
>>
>> One less reason to tip her IN the club. Thanks for the advice!
>
> Then don't tip Ray - nobody cares.
Nobody except the strippers who get these quotes instead of tips.
How many men have to stop tipping before they DO care? Talk about
alienating the customer base.
>> You are PROFITABLE!! You SAVE ME MONEY!!
>
> That doesn't make any sense. I don't know how to respond.
You told me not to tip! And that "no one cares!" I believe in your advice.
(hear that ASF? Let's spread the word to the *millions* of guys who get our
info that tipping strippers is stupid).
>> Bless your mafia-whore heart!
>
> See above.
Below-me.
>> > You're right, however, most college girls are NOT working as dancers.
>> > And this is important: dancers away from the clubs are not always
>> > obviously dancers.
>>
>> Maybe not to the untrained eye.
>
> I do not believe you qualify, based on the things you've said.
Women aren't exactly smart creatures. They are sexy creatures at times.
Leave the stuff requiring intelligence to the men.
Ray Gordon
>> college. No problem with that, if you ask me. But the way Ray put it,
>> girls in college are hor because they are working as strippers.
>
> It's a common enough perception. But then how many dancers does he
> REALLY know?
About 275 over the past eight years. Each one got an average of about $5
from me if I had to guess.
>There are all types. There were married women - one I knew
> was helping to save so that her and her husband could buy a house.
Typical stripper loser boyfriend/husband.
>> With him it is always the same: men get to where they are because of
>> their merits, women only because of their beauty.
>>
>> Johannes
>
> And we all know it is not true so I don't even address that issue with
> him.
Ph.D.s from Harvard agree with me (not to the absolute extreme, but
substantively). But what do they know?
> But I also asked him several question in another thread that he
> completely ignored.
Not intentionally. Just busy these days.
Ray Gordon
>> > Do
>> > you really think girls go to college, because they are beautiful enough
>> > to
>> > work as strippers? That's a sick mind you have, Ray.
>>
>> More like many girls HAVE to strip to afford college, and the ugly ones
>> are
>> left out.
>
> Yes, sort of like fat slow short guys are left out of college
> basketball. So what?
Now she's equating regular employment (where there is also looks bias) with
extracurricular activities.
>> What's sick is that ugly women lose out on education to looks bias in the
>> job market.
>>
>> --
>
> Well, you can date them - maybe that will compensate?
Don't need to. Other guys here talk about doing that, though.
Ray Gordon
>> > actually meet other people'.
>> > Clubs, churches, art exhibits, carnivals, street faires, farmer's
>> > market, and, a couple of my faves, the arboretum or beach.
>>
>> If they are hot......
>
> Sure, hot guys have an advantage. So what? Don't "hot girls?"
The point is it's not the approach or the venue, but the GUY doing it.
Therefore, it's not "acosting" the woman on the street as the mafia whore
put it.
>> > I met the guy I'm seeing at Les Schwabs. We started talking while our
>> > cars were being serviced.
>> > I'm not saying that picking someone up on the street is out of the
>> > question. It's just not the optimum venue.
>>
>> There IS no optimum venue, only optimum men.
>
> Maybe...
Definitely.
>> Five to one she's fucked a boss at a strip club, and/or a customer.
>
> You lost.
And she never lies!
>> She just can't admit it. Mafia whores are like that.
>
> (shrug) It didn't happen. Believe what you want.
Will do.
If there's no sex in the champagne room, why are there cum stains on the
couch?
>> > He made a positive comment about my car. (I love my little immacualte
>> > buzzbomb.)
>>
>> So he slipped in under the radar. He got sex by pretending not to want
>> it.
>
> It was obvious that he was interested. I can tell. He wasn't pretending
> - anything.
Then his approach didn't matter.
How tall is he and what does he earn a year?
>> > How do you know a woman does NOT want to be approached? Her attention
>> > is focused elsewhere. She's not looking around at the people. Study her
>> > body language. If she appears in a hurry. That's when I least like
>> > being bothered. When I am busy. (Of course I am giving MY opinion.)
>>
>> Unless the guy is hot.
>
> You repeat yourself. I'm sorry you're not "hot". Not my fault.
Who said I wasn't hot? Ad hominem fallacy regardless.
Looks are the chick's job anyway.
>> > How can you tell that she might be open to an approach? She's relaxed,
>> > taking her time. She's looking at the people, especially the men going
>> > by. Or she's in a place where people are picking each other up. I am
>> > not shy about sending a smile out as a kind of signal.
>> >
>> > The main thing (for me) is don't be an a**hole or jerk.
>>
>> Yet the ex-boyfriend was a jerk, so the jerks got them.
>
> No - I don't date jerks. I stay away from them. My "ex" wasn't a jerk.
> He had some maturity issues...as did I. We were younger.
Her story has more sugarcoating than a box of kids' cereal.
"He was perfect, but we broke up."
"The job was perfect, so I quit."
Women LIE about this shit all the time. Guys who believe them are idiots.
>> >Also - have
>> > something interesting to say.
>> > I don't like guys who complain and whine.
>>
>> Because those men don't have perfect lives, and that makes them unworthy
>> to
>> a mafia whore.
>
> Oh Ray - you're so sad.
She hates it when men figure out women.
>> Women "complain and whine" too, but Captain Saveaho shows up.
>
> What?
Captain Saveaho. Rescuer of all hot women who never wants sex in return.
>> What she's really saying is "I don't like men who HAVE SOMETHING TO
>> COMPLAIN
>> AND WHINE ABOUT."
>
> Is that what I said? Please (LOL!) tell me what I said.
Done.
>> >And I really hate dealing
>> > with negative people.
>>
>> See above-me, the opposite of BELOW-ME.
>
> Not into negativity Ray. Does bad shit exist in the world? Yes! Do I
> want to dwell on it? No!
Well, you get to come back to this life for another go-around until you do.
This is the "hell."
Mafia whores call it "negative" when men speak the truth about unfair
advantages they get. They call the men "bitter" because they don't want to
admit they are unduly privileged on the basis of sexuality, which is their
meal ticket.
Negative is being smug and ignoring injustice while profiting from it.
God will show that to you when he sends you here for a return trip due to
your inability to evolve this time around.
>> > What I liked about my bf right off:
>> > He wasn't pushy, he didn't drop all these stupid pick-up lines (believe
>> > me, I've heard them all),
>>
>> Apparently not.
>
> Are you kidding?
What he did is straight out of the player books. He went under the radar.
>> He used a "situational opener" straight off the web. Under the radar.
>> And
>> he got a dumb mafia whore (who's good in bed probably) as a prize for it.
>> See how stupid these chicks are?
>
> Hahahahahahaha...poor Ray.
Typical mafia whore: can't debate. Her statement above me (the opposite of
below-me) actually confirms that she does think and act as I say she does.
Maybe someone could dig up Mystery to respond to this chick. He'd be so
precise in his refuations, and she'd be calling him "bitter" as well, I'm
sure, while he laughs in his mansion with his harem or whatever.
>> Of course, when something BETTER comes along for him or her, it ends, and
>> he
>> also likely cheats on her, since if she wants him, other women will too,
>> etc. etc. etc.
>
> How predictable. You can't imagine being utterly mistaken about
> everything - can you?
She can be anything she wants when she's not being scrutinzed. The devil
is in the details; she hides them for a reason yet wants to debate as if she
didn't.
>> I bet she gets cheated on a lot. What you see here from here is pure
>> false
>> bravado, as false as the name she gives.
>
> My name is false, but I am not. I know better than post under my real
> name.
Because then one could investigate her claims and refute the shit out of
them. Just like her guy couldn't debate either without being made such a
fool of she'd dump him on the spot.
>> >and he was funny and cute.
>> >He didn't look or
>> > act like a "playa" type.
>>
>> True players never do. They appear like "great guys."
>
> Trust me - he's no player.
Trust me: he is.
>> >He wasn't all cocky and he didn't strut and
>> > brag.
>>
>> They do it subtly so that dumb mafia whores can't pick up on it.
>
> You actually know so little about the real world. Who do you think
> REALLY picked up whom?
He did, by knowing what you'd react to and painting that exact picture for
you, down to the last detail.
If he can get you, he can get many more just like you. Men don't stop at
one.
See, women don't tell the truth about this stuff, but men do.
>> >He was wearing a faded blue t-shirt and old jeans. In fact, he
>> > acted a touch shy.
>>
>> Sex with a mafia whore doesn't happen by accident.
>
> LOL! Your tired insults, so often repeated, and so completely off the
> mark, have dull and worn teeth.
Truth must hurt. There's blood on her money.
>> > And I noticed he had a surfboard rack on his rather beat up car. (I dig
>> > surfers.)
>>
>> Surf gimmick. More ASF theory.
>
> I've seen him surf. It's not a gimmick. (He handles it!) You can only
> think in terms of gimmicks and games. Is that because - what? You have
> no real hand to play?
Wow, more personal insults from the mafia whore.
If she actually READ the player theory she'd realize guys learn this stuff
specifically to get laid.
Sex with a mafia whore doesn't happen by accident.
She can only argue when she's anonymous and no one can scrutinize her
claims.
>> > So I asked him about surfing and he started talking (a lot) about
>> > surfing and I could see his enthusiasm.
>>
>> The mafia whore is too dumb when it comes to information so she reads his
>> emotions.
>
> I was there - you weren't.
She herself admitted to reading his emotions. Guess she's an unreliable
source on her own life.
This is why almost every PUA who can lay strippers, chooses not to. They
can do better than a mafia whore.
>> >I liked that.
>> > So I hinted - I said the Schwabs coffee really sucked and he suggested
>> > we go to a Starbucks - and that was it.
>>
>> Venue change.
>>
>> He laid a mafia whore.
>
> Jealousy ... so sad.
More like pity that he had to settle for a mafia whore. Women like you can
be bought. Easily. Or fooled. He chose the latter.
She thinks in terms of jealousy so she projects it onto me. It's a
deflection designed to fool men into thinking that the men she lays "got"
her in a manner other than they did.
Disinformation, pure and simple.
(now watch as Chole becomes friends with people who've threatened me,
harassed me or defamed me, because they suit her purpose of attacking me,
even if those men are everything she claims to hate; this truth is SO
painful she'll sacrifice her values to suppress it).
>Where's your "game" Ray?
I don't need to play games. I'm inherently desirable to women. After all,
I know not to be an idiot customer who tips mafira whores, for example.
(Her boyfriend would lose a debate with me over this so fast it would make
his head spin).
Ray Gordon
> you're going to have to be. You're making a kind of cold start. But
> then, when I go out to clubs I am more on my guard too.
They call that the bitch shield.
Women are so fucking stupid about men it's not even funny.
Ray Gordon
>> GAME).
>
>
> Agreed.
And she can't stand that the men know she's full of shit.
Ray Gordon
>> than
>> she will ever be.
>
> Which men? I would never claim to be the sharpest knife in the drawer.
I can see why.
> But I am not convinced that YOU are smarter than I am either.
The tests would likely show that.
> Let's just say that I'm not stupid enough to be seduced by a guy who
> drags a bag of greasy prawns into a strip club.
Notice her straw man argument.
> (Don't you wish you never said that?)
It shows how stupid chicks like this mafia whore are, so no, I have no
problem with it.
Who said they were greasy?
Prawns are to shrimp what a Porsche is to cars.
>> Good thing for the men.
>
> I like smart men. I thought it was so very cool when we walked through
> the art museum and he knew so much about the painters and how to look
> at the paintings.
He didn't. He knew how to put out the right emotional energy that made it
APPEAR that way, or he's run this game 1000 times over.
She's acting like the customers she used to fleece, who really thought she
was into them.
She's just a whore to her man, nothing more. She hides, I don't, and her
man could never debate me without looking like such a fool she'd like to
dump him.
I'm also 100 times better in bed than he'd ever be.
She's such a dumb mafia whore that she really thinks he'd love her, but no
decent man ever will. All he wants is the sex. He HAS to fake all this
shit to get laid, which every PUA understands. The joke is on her.
Alex
R...@cybersheet.com wrote on 8/9/06 3:11 AM:
> (hear that ASF? Let's spread the word to the *millions* of guys who get our
> info that tipping strippers is stupid).
How exactly does ASF reach "millions of guys?"
You're delusional.
Alex
R...@cybersheet.com wrote on 8/9/06 3:14 AM:
>> But I also asked him several question in another thread that he
>> completely ignored.
>
> Not intentionally. Just busy these days.
Yes, having a very public meltdown on ASF is SO time-consuming.
Alex
R...@cybersheet.com wrote on 8/9/06 3:36 AM:
> God will show that to you when he sends you here for a return trip due to
> your inability to evolve this time around.
I've been waiting for the religious delusions to kick in.
Pass the popcorn.
Alex
R...@cybersheet.com wrote on 8/9/06 3:36 AM:
>> Where's your "game" Ray?
>
> I don't need to play games. I'm inherently desirable to women.
Oh, man.
I'm SO glad I was drinking anything when I read this gem.
dracozna
> dracozna wrote:
>> chloe wrote:
>>> Ozone Radical wrote:
>>>> I'm an AFC soon to hit 25 with a stable job and average looks. I am
>>>> interested in approaching women on the streets to hopefully ask for
>>>> their number and hang out with them. Can someone give me a few pointers
>>>> on this? Thanks!
>>> I will not try to disuade you from this other than to say that many
>>> women, myself included, hate being accosted on the street. It is
>>> exceedingly intrusive, especially when accompanied by stupid or lurid
>>> lines and comments.
>>>
>> Well since you're here to give your advice/opinion ;-)
>>
>> Where do women like to be approached?
>> And how can men see/notice that a woman wants to be approached?
>
> actually meet other people'.
> Clubs, churches, art exhibits, carnivals, street faires, farmer's
> market, and, a couple of my faves, the arboretum or beach.
> cars were being serviced.
> I'm not saying that picking someone up on the street is out of the
> question. It's just not the optimum venue.
>
> buzzbomb.)
>
> is focused elsewhere. She's not looking around at the people. Study her
> body language. If she appears in a hurry. That's when I least like
> being bothered. When I am busy. (Of course I am giving MY opinion.)
>
> taking her time. She's looking at the people, especially the men going
> by. Or she's in a place where people are picking each other up. I am
> not shy about sending a smile out as a kind of signal.
>
> something interesting to say.
> I don't like guys who complain and whine. And I really hate dealing
> with negative people.
>
> He wasn't pushy, he didn't drop all these stupid pick-up lines (believe
> act like a "playa" type. He wasn't all cocky and he didn't strut and
> brag. He was wearing a faded blue t-shirt and old jeans. In fact, he
> acted a touch shy.
> And I noticed he had a surfboard rack on his rather beat up car. (I dig
> surfers.)
> So I hinted - I said the Schwabs coffee really sucked and he suggested
> we go to a Starbucks - and that was it.
Well here comes my opinion ;-)
About the locations you mentioned.
I don't know about Americans bars but over here I can't have a decent
conversation because of the loud music. The only things i can understand
are:" bier, cola, meter" and any number below 11 (1 meter bier = 10 to
13 glasses of beer, depends on how many glasses the bartender can fit in
1 meter). I did screw up a couple of times because i couldn't understand
girls who approached me.
Churches are something you won't find me, except when I'm on vacation (
i like those old catholic churches). People only come there for their
Sunday indoctrination ritual and leave.
Art exhibits attracts weird old people in my experience. Not really my
style. But I'll try to find some interesting in the neighborhood.
I haven't been to a farmers market for a long time. The night before is
actually a big party and i end up sleeping during the day.
There aren't much carnivals here. Only in the southern part here. And i
don't want to wait for those occasions that happen once a year (same
applies for farmers markets BTW.)
As for noticing a woman wants to approached, the things you mention
sound reasonable but misses something. It's nice to know you can send
signals that guys understand but most girls i know don't (and bitch
later about it that not one guy approached her). I've even been to
places with a female friend and she told me which girls were interested
in me. But when i looked at the girls they didn't show any signs of
interest.
dracozna
Do you want salty or sweet?
jjt
>More like many girls HAVE to strip to afford college, and the ugly ones are
>left out.
>
>job market.
wait...hehehehehe...HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
NOW you say, that 'ugly' women who can't be strippers
can't get jobs cause, without stripping, they can't
pay for college? Do you really belive what you posted?
grp-ie, double ya meds, I'll buy ya the booze ya
wash it down with. Go on, send me the bill..
JJTj
------------Sung to the N.Y. Dolls song "Personality Crisis" ----
YEEEAAHHHHH!!! YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH..
<WAIT> NO NO NO NO ..NO NO NO.. N0! N0!
Well we can't take him this week
And his dolls can't write another S-P-E-A-CCCCC-HHH !!!
..they hope for a better day when this newsloon just fades away..
all' about that "..inexcusable failure.."
...if he likes it &/or no-t..
But now his um, 'hellen' & herpes, 'dats all he got..
(Judge hadd'a rule about that "..inexcusable..")
yeah...yeah yeah yeah...
But now he needs to be a man, now he got to be 'da man'..
AND he KNOWS he gots to do it all, NOW NOW WOWS !!!
Yet he thinks about the times he failed, on every account..
..& it sure got to be a 'drag' when he wants2 kill his'self..
he has to deal with "..AOL.." chat rooms where he molest' about
(He denied' 'bout..)
..'bout his "..inexcusable failure.."
..a Judge told him that.....that's what he got..
But now his mommie, and dollies, 'dats all he got..
Just GOTTA SHOUT ABOUT HIS "..inexcusable.."
YEAH YEAH YEAH...YEAH...
<break for crowd to think the song is over..>
And he's a... coward hate monger on that 9/11 afternoon..
<livin proof of a real loonie-toon ! ! >
change on into da sock-puppet, fooling no 1 2 soon..
he WETS his UNDER-ROOOOOSSSSSS!!!!!!
......"..inexcusable failure.."
if he likes it &/or no-t....It's always "..NOT.."
But now his, 'hellen' and herpes ' dats whot he got..
That loser is a "..INEXCUSABLE FAILURE !!!!.."
YEAH YEAH..YEAH YEAH..
Now, with all da perks n free rides Penni Parker pays 4
His dollies become his 'private friends' nite n day 4..
That "..inexcusable.." 's (failing to do it all againnnnn)
(ah ah..no longer fun..)
"..inexcusable.." will his pain ever end..?
<not 2 B so much like a..>
"..inexcusable.." impressions of a joke,
..n 2 pretend 2 pretend 2 pretend too pretend,
"..inexcusable ..".." dreams of celebrities he'll never meet
(he lives their life off television)
Talkin' about that "..inexcusable failure.."
if he likes it &/or no-t....It's always "..NOT.."
But now um, 'hellen' and herpes ' dats whot he got..
hey grp-ie don't you worry
"..inexcusable failure.." please don't cry
he's just a "..inexcusable failure.." and cannot stop
Because he walks a "..inexcusable.."
Talks a "..inexcusable failure.."
Scruff
and loved it, but we have the same overhere in our bars and clubs,
simply too loud, you've got to lean right over and scream in someones
ears to get yourself heard... I hate that about the english culture...
music too loud to hear and drink until you go blurry, dancy on a table
and die.
well maybe not the 'die' bit, but you feel like it the next day. What
does the world think of the english drink culture?
One thing i would say on that - try cocktail bars. they're generally
more swanky, music is far more tolerable and the women are hotter, not
likely to get your average club skank. Women in cocktail bars are a
little higher class, more intellegent and able to enjoy the more
expensive environment. just don't go buying drinks for anyone, always
have yours already when you go and sarge a set of HBs.
Scruff
dracozna
No i live in the Netherlands. But your not the first and probably not
the last one who confuses those two. A friend of mine was in the USA a
few weeks ago and met a lot of women who thought that Holland was the
main capital of Germany. Go figure ;-)
I don't know much about the English drinking culture though. The only
English beer i had was Murphy's, if that's English and not Irish or
Scotch. Do English drink beer with or without foam? And what's the best
temperature for English beer? Most beer here tastes best when it's
between 4 and 8 degrees Celsius (beer itself not the room temperature).
Scruff
never cold enough and most europe (especially the French!) take the
micky out of us for it. but in reality, we all like a nice extra cold
beer... mmm... but english beer is pretty crap - Carling is about as
good as our lager gets. Our Bitter is better than our Lagers, but i
think we're the only nation in the world that drinks Bitter.
and we take it without head (foam). i quite liked the german/european
way of having lots of foam on beer, but the english get very pissed off
if they have too much foam, they show their anger in traditional
english ways... ie. throwing chairs at policemen and headbutting other
drinkers...
hahaha!
and my appologies for mistaking you for a German, i didnt mean any
offence, and hope i didn't cause any, but i think the principles remain
the same! Although i have only visited Holland a couple of times, and
both times to Amsterdam.
Seriously? someone actually thought 'Holland' was the capital of
Germany?! Are American's really as dumb as the European's make them out
to be?! i hope not... Anyone care to shed some light?
And Murphy's is Irish, but we do like a bit of Irish beer over here.
specially Caffrey's. If you get the chance to try it, do it! it's
gorgeous! but be careful, its so easy to drink you can get totally
wasted just by accident!
Scruff.
dracozna
> haha, beer temperature! long running joke in the UK. Traditionally its
> never cold enough and most europe (especially the French!) take the
> micky out of us for it. but in reality, we all like a nice extra cold
> beer... mmm... but english beer is pretty crap - Carling is about as
> good as our lager gets. Our Bitter is better than our Lagers, but i
> think we're the only nation in the world that drinks Bitter.
>
Ok nice to know :-) I think i've seen Carling in a few stores here.
> and we take it without head (foam). i quite liked the german/european
> way of having lots of foam on beer, but the english get very pissed off
> if they have too much foam, they show their anger in traditional
> english ways... ie. throwing chairs at policemen and headbutting other
> drinkers...
>
> hahaha!
LOL Good to remember that one ;-)
>
> and my appologies for mistaking you for a German, i didnt mean any
> offence, and hope i didn't cause any, but i think the principles remain
> the same! Although i have only visited Holland a couple of times, and
> both times to Amsterdam.
That's ok. Like i said, you're not the first one and probably not the
last one ;-)
> Seriously? someone actually thought 'Holland' was the capital of
> Germany?! Are American's really as dumb as the European's make them out
> to be?! i hope not... Anyone care to shed some light?
People can't know everything. ;-)
It's not like i know everything about the USA either.
> And Murphy's is Irish, but we do like a bit of Irish beer over here.
> specially Caffrey's. If you get the chance to try it, do it! it's
> gorgeous! but be careful, its so easy to drink you can get totally
> wasted just by accident!
>
Allright :-)
I'll try to find it here.
Bornnatural
"Ray Gordon" <R...@cybersheet.com> wrote in message
news:g5mdnURiFeAtlkTZ...@pghconnect.com...
>>> Women are so fucking stupid, and that's why they get played so often.
>>
>> Not so stupid as to fall for a greasy bag of prawns though, right?
>> LOL!
>
> Wanna BET?
>
>
>
What is a prawn?.......and to call women stupid......well sounds like you
have an issue that doesn't belong with being a poster in this group.
BN
Odious
>>> Well, I don't doubt that that was how you worked your way through
>>> college. No problem with that, if you ask me. But the way Ray put it,
>>> girls in college are hor because they are working as strippers.
>>
>> It's a common enough perception. But then how many dancers does he
>> REALLY know?
>
> About 275 over the past eight years. Each one got an average of about $5
> from me if I had to guess.
>
So you've spent over 1300 bucks on strippers.
What a fucking loser.
Johannes Seppi
>>> Well, I don't doubt that that was how you worked your way through
>>> college. No problem with that, if you ask me. But the way Ray put it,
>>> girls in college are hor because they are working as strippers.
>> It's a common enough perception. But then how many dancers does he
>> REALLY know?
>
> About 275 over the past eight years. Each one got an average of about $5
> from me if I had to guess.
>
>
>
>> There are all types. There were married women - one I knew
>> was helping to save so that her and her husband could buy a house.
>
> Typical stripper loser boyfriend/husband.
>
>
>>> With him it is always the same: men get to where they are because of
>>> their merits, women only because of their beauty.
>>>
>>> Johannes
>> And we all know it is not true so I don't even address that issue with
>> him.
>
> Ph.D.s from Harvard agree with me (not to the absolute extreme, but
> substantively). But what do they know?
>
But they don't, as you would know, if you'd read and comprehend what
they write.
>
>> But I also asked him several question in another thread that he
>> completely ignored.
>
> Not intentionally. Just busy these days.
>
Yes, trying out new words like "girlyman".
But Ray, when I told you to write new words a hundred times to get the
spelling right, I didn't mean you had to spam them a hundred times on
usenet.
Johannes
georgewv...@yahoo.com
> I'm an AFC soon to hit 25 with a stable job and average looks. I am
> interested in approaching women on the streets to hopefully ask for
> their number and hang out with them. Can someone give me a few pointers
> on this? Thanks!
You can't go approaching women on the street any more. The radical
lesbian feminist brigade has women convinced that any strange man who
comes within 10 feet of them is a potential rapist and should be hosed
down with mace kicked in the balls and arrested.
Bornnatural
"Odious" <Odi...@cox.net.nospam> wrote in message
news:MDmCg.2804$uW1.1807@dukeread06...
I've never seen the big interest in strippers myself. Most of them seem to
have some hangups one way or another.
BN
Ozone Radical
wisdom goes: "Do not feed the troll"
Instead, please contribute to the society of AFCs by posting
constructive suggestions and examples from your own past experience.
Big thanks to everyone who provided me hints on the subject. I'm taking
notes and won't disappoint you!
dracozna
Read the history and you will know why it won't work the way you want to.
Ray Gordon
>>>
>>> Not so stupid as to fall for a greasy bag of prawns though, right?
>>> LOL!
>>
>> Wanna BET?
>>
>>
>>
> What is a prawn?.......and to call women stupid......well sounds like you
> have an issue that doesn't belong with being a poster in this group.
Actions speak louder than words and PUAs ACTIONS say women are dumb whores.
A prawn is the largest breed of shrimp, and costs a great deal more by the
pound.
An Old Friend
"Ray Gordon" <R...@cybersheet.com> wrote:
> >>>> Women are so fucking stupid, and that's why they get played so
> >>>> often.
> >>>
> >>> Not so stupid as to fall for a greasy bag of prawns though,
> >>> right? LOL!
> >>
> >> Wanna BET?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > What is a prawn?.......and to call women stupid......well sounds
> > like you have an issue that doesn't belong with being a poster in
> > this group.
>
> Actions speak louder than words and PUAs ACTIONS say women are dumb
> whores.
>
> A prawn is the largest breed of shrimp, and costs a great deal more
> by the pound.
Again, Mr. Parker shows a substantial lack of understanding and study.
Prawns are edible, shrimp-like crustaceans, belonging to the sub-order
Dendrobranchiata. They are distinguished from the superficially similar
shrimp by the gill structure which is branching in prawns (hence the
name, dendro="tree"; branchia="gill"), but is lamellar in shrimp. The
sister taxon to Dendrobranchiata is Pleocyemata, which contains all the
true shrimp, crabs, lobsters, etc.
The name "prawn" is often mis-applied, most often to shrimp, generally
the larger species, such as Leander serratus; in the United States,
according to the [Encyclopaedia Britannica], the word "prawn" usually
indicates a freshwater shrimp or prawn. In Middle English, the word
"prawn" is recorded as "prayne" or "prane;" no cognate form can be found
in any other language. It has often been connected to the Latin "perna,"
a ham-shaped shellfish, but this is due to an old scholarly error that
connected "perna" and "parnocchie" with prawne-fishes or shrimps. In
fact, the Old Italian "perna" and "pernocchia" meant a shellfish that
yielded nacre, or mother-of-pearl.
There are many online sources where you can find this information out.
Gordon Roy Parker is (as can be demonstrated) not the most reliable
source of information.
HeeroYuy
"Ozone Radical" <ozoner...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1155144434....@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Everyone, I request you to stop bashing Ray because as conventional
> wisdom goes: "Do not feed the troll"
>
> Instead, please contribute to the society of AFCs by posting
> constructive suggestions and examples from your own past experience.
>
> Big thanks to everyone who provided me hints on the subject. I'm taking
> notes and won't disappoint you!
Be careful. You're not the first person who has said to ignore the netk00k.
It doesn't work.
Odious
"Ozone Radical" <ozoner...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1155144434....@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> wisdom goes: "Do not feed the troll"
>
I request you read the FAQ and the archives, then lurk for a month and see
if you still feel the same way.
Odious
>>>>> Women are so fucking stupid, and that's why they get played so often.
>>>>
>>>> Not so stupid as to fall for a greasy bag of prawns though, right?
>>>> LOL!
>>>
>>> Wanna BET?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> What is a prawn?.......and to call women stupid......well sounds like you
>> have an issue that doesn't belong with being a poster in this group.
>
> Actions speak louder than words
Like living at home with your mommy at age 40?
Odious
>> I think the more outside the obvious pick-up places you are, the cooler
>> you're going to have to be. You're making a kind of cold start. But
>> then, when I go out to clubs I am more on my guard too.
>
> They call that the bitch shield.
>
> Women are so fucking stupid about men it's not even funny.
>
This is not alt.penny.parker.
Ray Gordon
> wisdom goes: "Do not feed the troll"
Their goal is to get you and others to join them in bashing me, and in some
cases, to purchase certain products.
Most couldn't give a shit about your love life.
Ray Gordon
>> whores.
>>
>> A prawn is the largest breed of shrimp, and costs a great deal more
>> by the pound.
>
>
> Again, Mr. Parker shows a substantial lack of understanding and study.
>
> Prawns are edible, shrimp-like crustaceans, belonging to the sub-order
> Dendrobranchiata. They are distinguished from the superficially similar
> shrimp by the gill structure which is branching in prawns (hence the
> name, dendro="tree"; branchia="gill"), but is lamellar in shrimp. The
> sister taxon to Dendrobranchiata is Pleocyemata, which contains all the
> true shrimp, crabs, lobsters, etc.
>
> The name "prawn" is often mis-applied, most often to shrimp, generally
> the larger species, such as Leander serratus; in the United States,
> according to the [Encyclopaedia Britannica], the word "prawn" usually
> indicates a freshwater shrimp or prawn. In Middle English, the word
> "prawn" is recorded as "prayne" or "prane;" no cognate form can be found
> in any other language. It has often been connected to the Latin "perna,"
> a ham-shaped shellfish, but this is due to an old scholarly error that
> connected "perna" and "parnocchie" with prawne-fishes or shrimps. In
> fact, the Old Italian "perna" and "pernocchia" meant a shellfish that
> yielded nacre, or mother-of-pearl.
An impressive clarification.
Johannes Seppi
> Ray Gordon schrieb:
>>>> Best bet is to find a busline that goes through a university (tons
>>>> of hot women in college, since stripping is a common way to pay for
>>>> it).
>>>>
>>> This last sentence gives a perfect insight into your twisted
>>> thinking. Do you really think girls go to college, because they are
>>> beautiful enough to work as strippers? That's a sick mind you have, Ray.
>>
>> More like many girls HAVE to strip to afford college, and the ugly
>> ones are left out.
>>
> would have to show at least two things:
>
> 1) that there is a significant number of college girls working as
> strippers, who otherwise wouldn't be able to afford college. To qualify
> as "many" the percentage should be around 25%, IMO, but we can haggle
> about the number.
>
> 2) that there is an equally high number of "ugly" girls, who are denied
> going to college based on their looks.
>
>> What's sick is that ugly women lose out on education to looks bias in
>> the job market.
>>
>
predictably, that took his breath away...
HeeroYuy
>> Everyone, I request you to stop bashing Ray because as conventional
>> wisdom goes: "Do not feed the troll"
>
> Their goal is to get you and others to join them in bashing me, and in
> some cases, to purchase certain products.
Not the case at all. All one has to do is read some of Gordon's more
"colorful" posts to understand the situation.
>
> Most couldn't give a shit about your love life.
Again, not true at all. Because of a certain k00k (who shall remain
nameless), most of the useful advice went elsewhere.
Odious
>>> Actions speak louder than words and PUAs ACTIONS say women are dumb
>>> whores.
>>>
>>> A prawn is the largest breed of shrimp, and costs a great deal more
>>> by the pound.
>>
>>
>> Again, Mr. Parker shows a substantial lack of understanding and study.
>>
>> Prawns are edible, shrimp-like crustaceans, belonging to the sub-order
>> Dendrobranchiata. They are distinguished from the superficially similar
>> shrimp by the gill structure which is branching in prawns (hence the
>> name, dendro="tree"; branchia="gill"), but is lamellar in shrimp. The
>> sister taxon to Dendrobranchiata is Pleocyemata, which contains all the
>> true shrimp, crabs, lobsters, etc.
>>
>> The name "prawn" is often mis-applied, most often to shrimp, generally
>> the larger species, such as Leander serratus; in the United States,
>> according to the [Encyclopaedia Britannica], the word "prawn" usually
>> indicates a freshwater shrimp or prawn. In Middle English, the word
>> "prawn" is recorded as "prayne" or "prane;" no cognate form can be found
>> in any other language. It has often been connected to the Latin "perna,"
>> a ham-shaped shellfish, but this is due to an old scholarly error that
>> connected "perna" and "parnocchie" with prawne-fishes or shrimps. In
>> fact, the Old Italian "perna" and "pernocchia" meant a shellfish that
>> yielded nacre, or mother-of-pearl.
>
> An impressive clarification.
>
Not as impressive as this one...
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1. I don't use the recording anymore (I use a video that has no such
thing).
2. The feminization routine occurs well before the orgasm routine.
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Ozone Radical
the museum. I didn't even dress up properly and was wearing my work
clothes as I walked around looking for someone to talk to.
I noticed there were a few women all by themselves (some turn out to be
with a group or family, or bf when I paid close attention). Most of the
time nothing I could talk about came to mind. Then, as I was sitting on
a bench I saw a young 20 something walk by. She was looking at random
statues and walking around aimlessly. I took a deep breath and walked
right towards her (she wasn't looking in my direction). I stood behind
her and said "hi". She said "hi" and continued to look at the statue
(which I thought was weird because I didn't expect her to say hi at
all, and ignore me). Then I said "excuse me, can I take a picture of
the tattoo you have". And she suddenly appeared lost. She was like,
"errr, yeah! I've never heard of anything like this". I said "you don't
have to if you don't want to" out of nowhere. She said it was ok, and
turned around, and I took the picture. Then I said thanks and walked
away. She told me not to get the same tattoo. I said I won't.
This is the complete description of how it happened.
The next woman I talked to was again, by herself, and walking
aimlessly. I stopped and asked if she had a map. She brought it out and
I asked if she knew where we were, and if there was anything
interesting on this floor. She wasn't very attractive and couldn't
speak english very well so I walked away after a minute's smalltalk.
Alright gurus, can something be done about me?!!!
speeding
> Ok, I went ahead with the newbie challenge and met two women today at
> the museum. I didn't even dress up properly and was wearing my work
> clothes as I walked around looking for someone to talk to.
>
> I noticed there were a few women all by themselves (some turn out to be
> with a group or family, or bf when I paid close attention). Most of the
> time nothing I could talk about came to mind. Then, as I was sitting on
> a bench I saw a young 20 something walk by. She was looking at random
> statues and walking around aimlessly. I took a deep breath and walked
> right towards her (she wasn't looking in my direction). I stood behind
> her and said "hi". She said "hi" and continued to look at the statue
> (which I thought was weird because I didn't expect her to say hi at
> all, and ignore me). Then I said "excuse me, can I take a picture of
> the tattoo you have". And she suddenly appeared lost. She was like,
> "errr, yeah! I've never heard of anything like this". I said "you don't
> have to if you don't want to" out of nowhere. She said it was ok, and
> turned around, and I took the picture. Then I said thanks and walked
> away. She told me not to get the same tattoo. I said I won't.
>
> This is the complete description of how it happened.
>
>
> The next woman I talked to was again, by herself, and walking
> aimlessly. I stopped and asked if she had a map. She brought it out and
> I asked if she knew where we were, and if there was anything
> interesting on this floor. She wasn't very attractive and couldn't
> speak english very well so I walked away after a minute's smalltalk.
>
> Alright gurus, can something be done about me?!!!
Yep. That was two approaches. You have about 248 or so to go. They do get
easier.
Ozone Radical
Can you suggest some other things to say? I know there is a whole
encyclopedia of openers but I don't feel very comfortable using most of
them. If there is a stepping stone next level up I'd like to learn
about it.
speeding
>
> speeding wrote:
>> > Alright gurus, can something be done about me?!!!
>>
>>
>> Yep. That was two approaches. You have about 248 or so to go. They do
>> get easier.
>
> Can you suggest some other things to say? I know there is a whole
> encyclopedia of openers but I don't feel very comfortable using most
> of them. If there is a stepping stone next level up I'd like to learn
> about it.
Well.. keep in mind that the Newbie mission is not about trying to get
laid. It's about learning to talk to women. So.. "Hi" is pretty
effective. Or, just comment about somethign at hand... Their shoes, their
shirt, their hair, the sky, the noise level, the stuff in the stores...
Ideally... notice what the lady is looking at or interested in and
comment on that. The newbie mission is about learning to jsut get to
where you can talk to women without having to worry about "What do I say
to open?" So... the whole point is that you DON'T use any canned
openers... or at least not too many.
Krus T. Olfard
news:Xns981CE6813...@70.168.83.30:
Take this to heart.
Just go out and talk with women.
As Speeding said, start with "Hi" if nothing else. Just talk with every
woman you meet.
I realize that they're hairy scarey at first but they're just people and
you talk with people every day of your life.
In a little while you will be amazed that you were ever afraid to talk to
any woman.
--
Krustavus Teofilus Olfard
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Ozone Radical
Well, I am not afraid of talking to women. I am afraid of talking when
there is no obvious excuse for starting a conversation. For example, I
can talk to a waitress as she serves, or to a store checkout clerk
because due to circumstances we are really face to face and smalltalk
is expected. I can ask a woman for directions, time, or even make a
passing remark if I see her do something funny.
I am afraid of just walking up to a woman for no apparent reason and
dropping a "hi". Can you rationalize this for me?