Article on why ASF players are scoring (was: Re: Women and Promiscuity)
Ray Gordon
phenomenon:
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> http://www.hookupculture.com/archives/2005/01/women_marriage_1.html#more
>
> Promiscuity and Women
>
> Women often complain that they want marriage but can't find Mr. Right. In
> today's dating environment, attractive, intelligent, successful women are
> seeing their biological clocks expire before they can find a husband. Even
> among those who do get married, divorce is rampant. How did committed
> husbands become so rare? Why is it that women are the ones pursuing
> commitment now? Women who desire marriage don't realize that it is today's
> promiscuous culture that has turned the odds against them.
>
>
> Promiscuity vs. Marriage
>
> Today's promiscuous culture has allowed women to enjoy greater sexual
> freedom than ever before. Women can freely pursue their instinctual
> desires for love and lust in a way that was impossible under the
> monogamous system. However, there is a tradeoff. The more freely women
> pursue sex, the more difficult it becomes to find marriage.
>
> There are several reasons why marriage is becoming less common in today's
> culture. The most obvious is that when premarital sex is readily
> available, men lose one of the major motivations for marriage. (There is
> No Longer Someone For Everyone has a discussion of men's greater sex
> drive.) The monogamous system restricted male sexual desire so that women,
> by controlling access to sex, held a great deal of power to demand
> resources and commitment. Under the promiscuous system, that power is very
> much reduced.
>
> Another consequence of the promiscuous system is that many women
> concentrate their attentions on a small number of very attractive men.
> Biology dictates that men can cycle through sex partners more frequently
> and for a longer part of their lifetimes than women can. (See There is No
> Longer Someone for Everyone) This creates an imblance where a large number
> of women are sexually and emotionally connected to a small number of men.
> In this case, simple math dictates that few of those women can get married
> to the man with whom they're having sex.
>
> Another factor making things difficult for marriage-minded women are the
> kind of men they are instinctively programmed to pursue. Under today's
> promiscuous system, women "follow their hearts" and seek out the kinds of
> sexually attractive men who pique their emotions. Women think that intense
> physical attraction is necessary for the beginning of a lifelong
> relationship. In reality, the opposite is true. The forces of evolution
> have made women physically and emotionally attracted to the very kinds of
> "jerks" and "players" that are the least likely to get married, and most
> likely to cheat if they do get married. (See The Rise of Players and the
> Decline of Providers.)
>
>
> The Slippery Slope of Promiscuity
>
> Once premarital sex and adultery are tolerated, women must become
> increasingly promiscuous in order to attract men. When a man chooses
> between two women, if all else is equal, he will take the woman who is
> more sexually available. Because of this, women competing for attractive
> men are caught in a downward spiral where they must compete amongst each
> other with increasing promiscuity. Since the invention of the pill and the
> advent of the sexual revolution, women have had to become consistently
> more sexual in their clothing and behavior. Women who attempt to dress
> modestly and practice restraint have difficulty attracting men from their
> more sexually available competition.
>
> Another change in the current dating system is that women can no longer
> delay sex to obtain commitment. In the past, women seeking marriage
> delayed sex in order to determine whether their suitors wanted more than
> just a short-term sexual conquest. Men unwilling to wait would be
> rejected. In the promiscuous system, delaying sex is not possible because
> attractive men have so many other sexual options. A woman who tries to
> delay for long will soon find her man contested by other more willing
> women.
>
> In the monogamous system, social stigma and fear of pregnancy prevented
> women from using sex to compete for male attention. In that system, it was
> men who competed for marriage on the terms dictated by women. Women wanted
> men who could prove commitment through chivalry and courtship. Because all
> women demanded the same treatment, and because there were no other sexual
> options, men were forced to comply.
>
>
> Seeking Marriage Later
>
> Because the pill now allows women to put off pregnancy and marriage, many
> women wait until their late 20's to begin seriously searching for a
> marriage partner. Unfortunately, while these women feel pressure to settle
> down and marry, they still find themselves competing for male attention
> with younger, more promiscuous women. Younger women aren't facing the
> pressures of the biological clock, and don't demand commitment from men.
> This competition works against the women seeking marriage. Formerly
> promiscuous women who want to settle down as they get older must also
> contend with men's aversion to their sexual experience. In the end, the
> same promiscuity and sexuality that a woman must use to attract desirable
> men for short-term relationships reduces her attractiveness as a potential
> marriage partner.
>
> Men prefer women with less sexual experience because of the biology of
> maternal certainty and paternal uncertainty. When a woman has a child, she
> can be 100 percent sure the child is hers. Her husband has no such
> assurances. In fact, out of 280,000 blood tests done in 1999, 28 percent
> of the time, the man tested was not the father (New York Times). From an
> evolutionary standpoint, a man who spends a lifetime of his resources
> raising another man's child is a genetic catastrophe, and men who are
> insensitive to the possibility of cuckoldry cannot survive long in the
> gene pool. The only way a man can be sure that a child is really his own
> is to make sure that his wife has not had sex with other men. This is the
> underlying reason why men prefer sexual inexperience in the women they
> marry. Men, particularly "provider" men who tend to have had fewer
> partners themselves, are less likely to consider a sexually experienced
> woman serious marriage material. (See David Buss, The Dangerous Passion:
> Why Jealousy Is As Necessary As Love and Sex.)
>
>
> Marriage and Sexual Morality
>
> Under the monogamous system, there were many layers of laws, religious
> rules, parental pressures and social norms that forced women to seek out
> men who would be good long-term providers. Women who had sex without
> commitment made marriage more difficult for other women, and their
> promiscuity was stigmatized. Nowadays, the old system of morals and rules
> is largely gone, and women can freely pursue their sexual instincts.
> Unfortunately, those same instincts are driving women onto a never-ending
> treadmill of relationships without commitment.
>
> Many of today's women bought into the idea that they should freely
> exercise their sexual liberties. Many of those women also bought into the
> idea that they would be able to get married at the time and age of their
> choosing. As those women get older, they are finding that the rules of
> evolution and biology make promiscuity and marriage incompatible.
EditorialStaff
>
> Yet another example of how the mainstream is catching on to
> the player phenomenon:
[remove copyrighted article, posted in its entirety by GRPie]
First, you've now violated the copyright of the original author of
the article you quoted in full. How you can claim that others are
guilty of violating copyright laws and regulations, and then do it
yourself is beyond us, and shows that you have dirty hands.
Deal with it.
Second, there is not now, and never has been a "Women and Promiscuity"
thread in this newsgroup. So, you are renaming a post from another
group, and posting it here as if it were a real thread in this one.
Misleading, disingenuous, and dishonest. Why are we not surprised?
What does it have to do with "seduction", and why do you not have
any original material to post about how to meet and fornicate with
women?
Could it be that you are a bigger fraud than we originally thought?
--
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ashenthorn
> Yet another example of how the mainstream is catching on to the
player
> phenomenon:
>
> "Jaycee" <j...@noydb.com> wrote in message
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> >
http://www.hookupculture.com/archives/2005/01/women_marriage_1.html#more
> >
> > Promiscuity and Women
> >
> > Women often complain that they want marriage but can't find Mr.
Right.
And yet thoughout this described "promiscuity era", the rate of
American women who do in fact marry continues to hold at a steady 95.5
percent. (US Census Bureau. Isn't that miraculous?
Ray Gordon
No. It's hotties fantasizing (that they trapped Prince Charming), desperate
women settling (for any man they can trap), and golddiggers setting up for
divorce court.
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ashenthorn
> >> Yet another example of how the mainstream is catching on to the
> > player
> >> phenomenon:
> >>
> >> "Jaycee" <j...@noydb.com> wrote in message
> >> news:Ov_ce.1911$V01...@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> >> >
> >
http://www.hookupculture.com/archives/2005/01/women_marriage_1.html#more
> >> >
> >> > Promiscuity and Women
> >> >
> >> > Women often complain that they want marriage but can't find Mr.
> > Right.
> >
> > And yet thoughout this described "promiscuity era", the rate of
> > American women who do in fact marry continues to hold at a steady
95.5
> > percent. (US Census Bureau. Isn't that miraculous?
>
> No. It's hotties fantasizing (that they trapped Prince Charming),
desperate
> women settling (for any man they can trap), and golddiggers setting
up for
> divorce court.
Do you ever have nightmares about vaginas equipped with razor sharp
teeth?
SluttyFox
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initiated by the woman. They may be catching on Ray, but it doesn't matter.
This country and sexual morals has went to hell. It will only get worse. If
we last I see women doing approaches. With men going...oh god....another
woman wanting ass. The way young girls are today.....it doesn't take
game......just ask them if they want to is all it takes. I've seen many a
girl now that will sexually qualify you before she decides if she wants a
relationship........we're doomed.
SluttyFox
>
kate
The statistic on who files the divorce is meaningless. The reason for
the divorce is not. Sometimes it's abuse, sometimes it's infidelity,
and sometimes it's just a lack of fulfilment.
Sexual "qualification" might not be anything more than a basic desire
for physical compatibility. Please tell me why I should settle for a
man who ejaculates in 30 seconds leaving me unfulfilled?
Kate
Alex
kcour...@yahoo.com wrote on 5/3/05 10:43 PM:
> Please tell me why I should settle for a
> man who ejaculates in 30 seconds leaving me unfulfilled?
Especially when you can find a guy who can do it TWICE in 30 seconds.
SluttyFox
> The statistic on who files the divorce is meaningless. The reason for
> the divorce is not. Sometimes it's abuse, sometimes it's infidelity,
> and sometimes it's just a lack of fulfilment.
> Sexual "qualification" might not be anything more than a basic desire
> for physical compatibility. Please tell me why I should settle for a
> man who ejaculates in 30 seconds leaving me unfulfilled?
>
> Kate
>
You shouldn't. However if he loses it that quick you should be able to tell
long before the clothes come off.....:) The statistic is not meanless. I
agree, abuse has no place in a relationship, physical or mental, nor does
infidelity. What I have noticed is that if bad times comes, women jump ship
quicker then they used to. If theres love do you not stick it out? I would
state my reason for believing why things are the way they are, but I'm sure
I would be flamed to hell and back.
SluttyFox
pa...@robinson-telephone.com
>> man who ejaculates in 30 seconds leaving me unfulfilled?
>
> Especially when you can find a guy who can do it
> TWICE in 30 seconds.
That's hilarious; you get two points.
Aardvark
how about a guy that could get it done in 45 seconds and leave her
totally fulfilled? hehehehe
aardvark
Vortac
> the divorce is not. Sometimes it's abuse, sometimes it's infidelity,
> and sometimes it's just a lack of fulfilment.
> Sexual "qualification" might not be anything more than a basic desire
> for physical compatibility. Please tell me why I should settle for a
> man who ejaculates in 30 seconds leaving me unfulfilled?
What happened to good old LOVE? How about that for a reason? Sex isn't
everything, you know. There are more meaningful things in life. Besides,
everyone can learn.. Also I'd like to ask, what happened to patience..
- Vortac
SluttyFox
> What happened to good old LOVE? How about that for a reason? Sex isn't
> everything, you know. There are more meaningful things in life. Besides,
> everyone can learn.. Also I'd like to ask, what happened to patience..
>
> - Vortac
I know......its nothing like it was 20 years ago, is it?
SluttyFox
raging clown
finger on your cheeck when you posted.
We are the same animal we have been for 100s of thousands of years.
Same instincts, same old same old. Marriage was about property and. .
. . I am wasting my time. Go back to Disney and jump on the big
Merry-Go-Around : &
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