Why do I lack the guts to risk getting shot down in flames by women?

[jabe...@googlemail.com]

I simply do not feel comfortable asking any woman for a shag, and I
wish I could live more in the moment and de-sensitize myself to this
problem, which just leaves me feeling unjustly (I think) bitter at
women for "rejecting" me. But of course, I am the one who's rejecting
myself, since I never ask them. I know this sounds a tad pathetic. How
can I get into the zone?


Ta,

Jim.

[Gabriel DellaGuerre]

Try rejecting a few chicks yourself - this is known as a disqualifier
and creates a challenge, which gets her thinking about you (the source
of the challenge). Women love a challenge.

Most men don´t tend to reject women as they usually take any woman
that comes along with their arms open. This means you need standards
and a willingness to burn bridges.

As for asking a woman for a shag - Really? You should not be having to
ask. If women find you desirable, they´ll want to fuck you. If you
know how to please a woman, there´s no need for you to fear anything;
you´re giving her an opportunity, if she doesn´t take you up on it,
her mistake. Move on.

But if you really want to try it and you´re feeling masochistic, just
go up to a chick in a club:

You: "Wanna fuck?"

Chick: "Nooo!"

You: "Okay" (smirk, shrug and walk away)

Do that a few times. See how quickly it gets old.

[jabe...@googlemail.com]

On May 3, 11:28 pm, Gabriel DellaGuerre

Tee hee. You'd have said "fuck" and I'd have said "shag", just to
soften the blow. You're truly fearless. Hope I can find a few people
like you boys to go out clubbing with sometime. Examples I could just
follow blindly.

However, all the books I've read on the matter agree with what you're
saying. Do not ask directly for it. Maybe I just cannot separate my
neediness and desperation from the process of playing what I am told
is just a game whose results do not matter, after all.

Thanks,

Jim.

[Gabriel DellaGuerre]

"Know your goddamn worth" - If you don't, others won't either.

Blindly? That's a recipe for disaster. Solving a problem has two
parts, understanding the process and the answer. Which one do you
think is more important?

If you understand women, you can apply that knowledge everywhere with
a few minor adjustments. Seducing women has no boundaries.

As for neediness and desperation - you're probably making too many
mistakes and taking too many risks, which is causing your confidence
to plummet. Think of it like this: You're basically shooting a three
pointer with a defender on you, every time you get the ball. And
missing every time.

Results are paradoxical. They matter but they don't at the same time.

My guess is you're seeing EVERY damn woman in your life as someone to
try and seduce/"shag". Turning down a lay/chance of a lay from an
average chick and aiming for the beautiful women will give you
confidence. Why? A desirable man doesn't settle for anything less than
what he wants. STANDARDS.

Another thing to remember: You've gotta operate on the principle that
there's always another woman just around the corner.

[BettorO...@aol.com]

On Apr 30, 2:53 pm, "jabeje...@googlemail.com"

I wrote Bettor Off Single for guys like you. There is a lot you can
do for your game even if you never approach a single chick, but
there's also a lot you can do with chicks that doesn't involve risking
rejection. At some point, you can hopefully up your game and minimize
the rejection risk to where it's more manageable.

Let's hold off on recommending you call the prostitutes just yet.
There's still hope for you.

I recommend beginning with the VCABM in BOS, which is free at the link
BELOW-ME.

Ray Gordon
Bettor Off Single: Why Commitment Is A Bad Gamble For Men
http://www.toosmarttofail.com/bod.pdf
(FREE!)

[roost...@gmail.com]

On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 9:18:55 AM UTC-4, BettorO...@aol.com wrote:
> On Apr 30, 2:53 pm, "jabeje...@googlemail.com"
> <jabeje...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > I simply do not feel comfortable asking any woman for a shag, and I
> > wish I could live more in the moment and de-sensitize myself to this
> > problem, which just leaves me feeling unjustly (I think) bitter at
> > women for "rejecting" me. But of course, I am the one who's rejecting
> > myself, since I never ask them. I know this sounds a tad pathetic. How
> > can I get into the zone?

>
> I wrote Bettor Off Single for guys like you. There is a lot you can
> do for your game even if you never approach a single chick, but

> there's also a lot you can do with chicks that doesn't involve risking

> rejection. At some point, you can hopefully up your game and minimize

> the rejection risk to where it's more manageable.
>
> Let's hold off on recommending you call the prostitutes just yet.
> There's still hope for you.

>
> I recommend beginning with the VCABM in BOS, which is free at the link
> BELOW-ME.
>
> Ray Gordon
> Bettor Off Single: Why Commitment Is A Bad Gamble For Men
> http://www.toosmarttofail.com/bod.pdf
> (FREE!)

Too bad you use so many acronyms it's hard to tell what you're saying at all.

[roost...@gmail.com]

Oh, and I say this currently at page 128. Already so many acronyms not explained and not found on a common acronym's site, and I don't want to spend the time pouring over the text to find the definitions. You should have a glossary or something.

[BettorO...@aol.com]

On Sunday, July 22, 2012 9:30:46 PM UTC-4, roost...@gmail.com wrote:
> Oh, and I say this currently at page 128. Already so many acronyms not explained and not found on a common acronym's site, and I don't want to spend the time pouring over the text to find the definitions. You should have a glossary or something.>>>>>

Well hey if it's not worth the effort to learn how to get Miss-America level women, I understand your point of view.

With that said, usually there is a footnote after the first occurrence of each acronym which explains it, plus this is standard "community" terminology a lot of the time (where it's not specific to BOS).

You might want to look up the chapter on "gamma males." Those men are below beta. They generally have a sense of entitlement when it comes to women, and will find a way to complain about just about anything (often they powertrip with salespeople because it's the only time someone cares about them).

Since I don't charge $5k a seminar, I make my money at other things. I put BOS out there for anyone who wants to learn how to seduce the hottest women on earth. It's really no skin off my back if any men make use of the toolos I've provided, but they aer there for those who want them.

BOS was also written for highly intelligent, educated readers, at a level comparable to books from major publishers, rather than some thrown-together e-book of the kind that pollutes the internet.

Finally, try "29 Reasons Not To Be A Nice Guy" if you want a glossary:

http://www.toosmarttofail.com/29reasons.pdf

I sell that one on Kindle but put it up free for those I encounter on message boards.

Ray Gordon
Bettor Off Single: Why Commitment Is A Bad Gamble For Men

http://www.toosmarttofail.com/bos.pdf
FREE!

[spligutherism]

On Tue, 7 Aug 2012 12:41:03 -0700 (PDT), "BettorO...@aol.com"
<BettorO...@aol.com> wrote:


>Ray Gordon
>Bettor Off Single: Why Commitment Is A Bad Gamble For Men

www.rayfaq.com

[roost...@gmail.com]

Well, that is what I meant by the page of common acronyms- the ones on the site. And really you should look over it at some point, there are some terms not explained, and not used much it appears. I'll make a list of them as I go on. If the list makes me look like a fool, so be it.

Really not a bad read, entertaining so far. And I really don't get the idea you're a womanizer (more than any other man, really). Let the haters hate I guess.

Page 169 right now, getting interesting. Finally met Kate I see.

[BettorO...@aol.com]

On Tuesday, August 7, 2012 5:34:44 PM UTC-4, (unknown) wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Aug 2012 12:41:03 -0700 (PDT), "BettorO...@aol.com" <BettorO...@aol.com> wrote: >Ray Gordon >Bettor Off Single: Why Commitment Is A Bad Gamble For Men

He's still a coward
His woman is still human shit
Women are still whores
And he can't find the balls to confront them, so he lashes out at me

Don't be fooled, men. They want you to ignore the best PUA book ever written. It's also FREE:

Ray Gordon
Bettor Off Single: Why Commitment Is A Bad Gamble For Men

http://www.toosmarttofail.com/bos.pdf

For more insight into my (jealous) haters in the seduction community:
http://www.toosmarttofail.com/puatruths.pdf

[BettorO...@aol.com]

>>>>Well, that is what I meant by the page of common acronyms- the ones on the site. And really you should look over it at some point, there are some terms not explained, and not used much it appears. I'll make a list of them as I go on. If the list makes me look like a fool, so be it. Really not a bad read, entertaining so far. And I really don't get the idea you're a womanizer (more than any other man, really). Let the haters hate I guess. Page 169 right now, getting interesting. Finally met Kate I see.>>>

I trust the audience's intelligence to see through the haters. The irony is that CELEBRITIES have the same problem, so I never have to explain it to them. They know what "important enough to hate" means. He should just be thankful I'm not the type to commit suicide over such cyberbullying, because the backlash against him and others would be unbearable. Imagine if he ever tried that on a FEMALE?

Sorry for the delayed response to your post. Been busy working on ANOTHER book, this one even more explosive than BOS or any other.

Please keep in mind that I dropped BOS on January 26, 2010, the same day Mystery dropped a book of his own. I wanted there to be no doubt that each of us had not been influenced by the other, so the public could compare the two books. This meant I had to stop editing at that point. I'm sure I may have missed a term or two, but I did take care to make a footnote the first time any term appears.

The format of BOS is "media res," where I throw the reader into the middle of the story, then go back to the beginning to explain the events leading up. I thought that would be good here: without explanation, the reader is thrust into "the Battle of Kate" and then taken, step by step, through the five years leading up, followed by the positive influence she had on me after.

No, I'm not a womanizer. I was truly a "reluctant PUA." I would much rather have married the OTL or Kate, but after that, I gave up on the soulmate concept. No regrets there either. Women ask PUAs to "give them a chance." I did. Telling me to settle is just an attempt to dictate who I should "love" which is counter to following my heart.

The quality of women I got was directly attributable to my AFC days. What I learned there gave me an edge as a POUA, because I was truly impossible to get, not just playing hard to get.

If I see a list of terms I'll do my best to answer you. It's almost amusing (sad really) that my haters have to pretend people like you aren't praising my work. I guess that's why they are so LOUD; they hope their noise will fool people.

Ray Gordon
Bettor Off Single: Why Commitment Is A bad Gamble For Men
http://www.toosmarttofail.com/bos.pdf

For the ugly turths about my haters in the seduction community:

http://www.toosmarttofail.com/puatruths.pdf

[BettorO...@aol.com]

Looks like Susie is in a bad mood again.

Pity the henpecked.