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Case report: seduction before a 3some

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Franco

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Nov 4, 2001, 10:36:55 AM11/4/01
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Hello,
this week we had with my wingman an interesting case and I would like
to report it. We organize every week, once a week a 3some.. We put an
ad in Internet and ask ladies if they want to have sex with two men at
the same time. We sit in the same bar at the same hour once a week and
wait ONLY half an hour. If the lady does not show up we go away. We
answer to e-mail ONLY ONCE. No corrispondence, no bullshit.

This works very well but as You can guess most of the ladies do very
hard testing before they give themselves to us.. Most of ladies try to
make us to change the day of the appointment to see if they control
us. They try every kind of testing. For example they write they are in
trip and cannot come, they try to make us to go to appointment in
different places, they try to fix appointments in impossible hours
like saturday morning or sunday morning early and so on..

Of course we react all the time in the same way "You don´t show up
than and than we do not fuck You and take another lady" This works
well. Of course ladies try to test as when they come at the bar and
this time the testing and our reaction was so interesting I would like
to report.

She was a 8,5 and as came to us sat down and said "I came because I
only want to see who were the bastards who put such a sciovinist ad in
the net", we told her to sit down and told her she was wellcome. I
asked her what she ment by that and she started with the feminist
bullshit ladies here are used to ( in the country I live, Finland,
most of ladies are feminist and most of men are AFCs ). We asked her
what was sciovinist in our ad. She told that the ad was very straight
( as it was ) and that the tone of it was like dictating rules to
woman just as sciovinist pigs would do and so on. We smiled and told
her that our ad worked very well ( as it does ) and that she had only
once the possibility TO SHOW AS WHICH KIND OF WOMAN SHE IS and please
us. As she is propably used to deal with AFCs she had a very surprised
expression when we told that. She was surely expecting us to try to
convince her supplicating her to come with us to the flat for the
3some, which of course we did not do. I told her this is like
marketing. I told her we are a product and she can choose to buy or
not to buy and that we will be any way good friends and so on. She was
even more surprised and tried even harder to test. We started to talk
about the subject of woman buying drink to a man. My wingman, who made
the ad, had put in the ad something along the lines of her buying us a
drink. She told as that "even the most feminist woman" would never
accept the situation her paying something to a man. I asked why? I
told her that equal rights means also there is no reason for a woman
to feel ashamed in buying a drink to a man. I told that could be a
good WAY THO SHOW A MAN HOW GOOD SHE CAN BE TO HIM especially if she
likes him and DOES NOT WANT LOOSE THE OCCASION OF BEING WITH SUCH A
GOOD MAN and loose him to another woman. She looked at me like I would
have been Mr Spock from Star Trek and I would have landed right on her
front door. She was clearly more relaxed, started to smile and tell
jokes.. Than we started to tell her the difference between alfa and
beta male. We told her modern woman is fed up with men who are like
walking "I AM SORRY" and asked did she try to tell us so much bullshit
because she had been dealing with beta-males and nice guys and so on.
We asked her straightly. We told her that the role of the beta-male is
to be at home, please the woman, work, take care of the children and
the role of the alfa-male is to take all the women and that she would
have been pleased in meeting two guys like us. She was very interested
in the discussion. She invented also another term. She said she had
met many "C Males" ( she was not very accultured, she meant propably
Gamma Male :) With that she meant MEN WHO ARE NOT EVEN MEN. She meant
castrated me who do not even have to courage of being beta.. We
laughed. Complimented her for inventing the term. At that point me and
my friend rised on and told her "we go now" She rised up. We went to
the car. We went to our flat and had a wonderful 3some. She was very,
very good in doing blow jobs and at the end asked us if we can meet
her again..

Well guys ( AFC listen carefully to this question ) what You think
would have happened if we would have listened "literally" to any of
the bullshit she told us during the conversation ? We would had been
LJBFed and had had no 3some that evening..

Comments wellcome.

DJ

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Nov 4, 2001, 11:01:30 AM11/4/01
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On 4 Nov 2001 07:36:55 -0800, zarathu...@yahoo.com (Franco) wrote:

>Well guys ( AFC listen carefully to this question ) what You think
>would have happened if we would have listened "literally" to any of
>the bullshit she told us during the conversation ? We would had been
>LJBFed and had had no 3some that evening..
>
>Comments wellcome.

Dude, all I have to say is you did a great job!

David Johnson
http://mindiscovery.itgo.com
NLP & SS
johnson...@purpleturtle.com
We only learn from failure...

TheFairlyBigOne

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Nov 5, 2001, 4:45:44 AM11/5/01
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That was great.
You're the guy who was angry at women's lack of respect, right?
Well, you sure seem to have found a solution!

How long have you been doing this (the ad), and how many times did it
work ? Did you meet any other girls or do they usually just not show
up?
When they show up, do they usually go for the 3some?
Do you speak on the phone before, or is it all through email?

Details please !!! :-P c=3

Alberto Silvera F.

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Nov 5, 2001, 4:53:07 PM11/5/01
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add...@below.me (TheFairlyBigOne) wrote in message news:<3be65ea0...@news.noos.fr>...

November 5, 2001

This looks like an excellent method. What inconveniences have you
encountered? I am ready to test it.

Alberto

Franco

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Nov 6, 2001, 12:55:37 AM11/6/01
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add...@below.me (TheFairlyBigOne) wrote in message news:<3be65ea0...@news.noos.fr>...
***Thanks, yes I am that guy who was angry for lack of respect. That
was a completely differetn situation: I was deeply in love with the
lady. Now I LJBFed her and keep her as mistress from time to time and
my life is much easier. I jumped to the conclusion she was a sicko.
But 3somes and PU are different things. In those occasion no problems
in controlling myself..:) I am like ice than. I have been doing this
3some thing since I was 20 years old but I tried this new method ( ad
+ always same day and hour ) only for a two months. It seems to work
better than other methods. Ladies have only two possibilities: to come
to the meeting or not to come, like Prince Hamlet..:) We put the ad
weekly and ladies who read the ad almost propably get jealous ( as You
know any woman wants to be THE ONLY ONE IN THE WORLD ) and start to
think of fun must have "the other ladies" with us. We also put online
a "report" of the precedent fuck and write how fun it was and so on.
It worked every week. Many women nowadays are afraid of COMMITTMENT
and so they come to fuck with two guys more easily because they
believe they will not get involved emotionally. We had with my wingman
a lot of married ladies. A few week ago a married lady got in love
with me in the process and she is now asking me to go to live with her
and wants to cut with her husband... But I think many ladies believe
naively that with two men there is no risk of getting in love..Of
course You need to do this in a bigger town. If You try this in a
small town with 20.000 inhabitants chances are not so good. Not many
women have the courage of doing this and so You need "bigger
markets"..We live with my wingman in a 500.000 inhabitants town.

Franco

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Nov 6, 2001, 1:02:17 AM11/6/01
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alberto...@hotmail.com (Alberto Silvera F.) wrote in message news:<31a93c6c.01110...@posting.google.com>...
***One need to be very STRICT in not changing the rules. All the lady
will try to test to see if they can GAIN CONTROL. If they succeed in
gaining control chances You get the 3some will lower. We met any kind
of excuses: one was travelling and wrote many times from "Rome" or
"Paris" and every week had an excuse. She suggested all the time "why
don´t we meet another day" and our answer was always a firm and polite
"NO!" Other ladies tried to tease us suggesting impossible dates "on
the beach on sunday morning" or early morning during the weekend. We
were very firm: "You don´t come to the bar, You loose us!" We use only
e-mail and GSM text messages. We do not speak at the phone. We try to
minimize all the contacts before the meeting. There are two important
phases of which the first one is the most important:
1. The meeting: in the bar ladies will try all the TEST SHIT they have
in their shit bag. It is biological, they have to do it. If You pass
all the tests You get the 3some

2. the 3some. Testing can go on also in the flat You have the 3some
but that is more unlikely. If she comes to the flat almost propably
she will fuck. We had one lady who wanted to dance for us flamenco but
after that started to refuse to go to bed. We told her "Dear, is so
late, we bring You home" and told her she is now at the end of the
list. We report this if we fuck her.

So guys try it, and report please !
>
> Alberto

TheFairlyBigOne

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Nov 6, 2001, 4:10:42 AM11/6/01
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On 5 Nov 2001 21:55:37 -0800, zarathu...@yahoo.com (Franco) wrote:

>We also put online
>a "report" of the precedent fuck and write how fun it was and so on.

Heh heh that's great...

Do you do this on a dating website like spray or yahoo, or is it on a
website of your own?

Would you post the URL?
If you dont want to post it here, I can give you an email address.


Mindlink

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Nov 6, 2001, 11:49:56 AM11/6/01
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I'm assuming the message is in another language. I would like to see a
copy of its text here too. (Did you include photographs or anything
with it?) I'm somehow finding this one a little hard to swallow as
is...

On Tue, 06 Nov 2001 09:10:42 GMT, add...@below.me (TheFairlyBigOne)
wrote:

Franco

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Nov 10, 2001, 12:37:11 AM11/10/01
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add...@below.me (TheFairlyBigOne) wrote in message news:<3be7a86d....@news.noos.fr>...

> On 5 Nov 2001 21:55:37 -0800, zarathu...@yahoo.com (Franco) wrote:
>
> >We also put online
> >a "report" of the precedent fuck and write how fun it was and so on.
>
> Heh heh that's great...
>
> Do you do this on a dating website like spray or yahoo, or is it on a
> website of your own?
***We put in on at least 5 - 6 different dating website, Spray is one
of them. Generally local dating web sites known to local community
work better. We have no own website but right now You gave a good
idea..

> Would you post the URL?
> If you dont want to post it here, I can give you an email address.

***I am having a lot of work actually. As soon as I have more time I
will translate from finnish the ad we put and publish here in
seduction.com

Franco

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Nov 10, 2001, 12:41:25 AM11/10/01
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del...@delete.com (Mindlink) wrote in message news:<3be812aa....@news.verizon.net>...

> I'm assuming the message is in another language. I would like to see a
> copy of its text here too. (Did you include photographs or anything
> with it?) I'm somehow finding this one a little hard to swallow as
> is...
***Yes it is in another language. Having a lot of work at moment. In
one or two weeks as soon as I have time I will translate to english
and publish in fast.seduction.com I do not put photographs with it. If
they want photographs I say "come to the appointment and see" I try to
do this so that there is no supplication at all. We try with my
wingman to frame it all the time like "it is in the best interest of
the lady to come to the meeting" and we try to make the ladies to come
out from a supplicant position. For example THEY are the ones who have
to send photos to us and not viceversa. It seems to work well.

Ray Gordon, GENIUS

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Nov 10, 2001, 9:41:00 AM11/10/01
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I've been saying all along a true alpha male makes women come to him.

Approach is where the initial advantage is determined. Whomever makes first
contact is in the inferior position.


Anonymous

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Nov 10, 2001, 7:33:12 PM11/10/01
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drsquare <now...@nowhere.co.uk> wrote:
: On Sat, 10 Nov 2001 09:41:00 -0500, in alt.seduction.fast,
: ("Ray Gordon, GENIUS" <r...@cybersheet.com>) wrote:

:>Approach is where the initial advantage is determined. Whomever makes first


:>contact is in the inferior position.

: Wouldn't you like to believe that.

Actually, as usual, Ray is right.
But inducing the women to approach is not efficient.
This is what takeaways are for - to reverse the position.

Regards,

Jackie

Franco

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Nov 12, 2001, 5:54:05 AM11/12/01
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Anonymous <nob...@hyperreal.pl> wrote in message news:<4616572e76e6e119...@hyperreal.pl>...
***You and Ray are both right. The problem is how to deal with the
situation in ANY TIME so that she is back in the supplicant role. And
of course we can expect SHE WILL TRY ANYTHING to put as in the
supplicant role. I think women are all the time dealing with a strong
drive coming out as soon as they deal with a man who remains in the
non supplicant alfa position and so THEY HAVE to try anything before
surrendering not to feel themselves as BITCHES and that what is called
THE SLUT FACTOR. I think a man will be able to fuck almost any woman
if he can make her feel comfortable in regard to the slut factor and
in the same time act like alfa.

Alex

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Nov 12, 2001, 4:02:21 PM11/12/01
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On Sat, 10 Nov 2001 09:41:00 -0500, in alt.seduction.fast,
> : ("Ray Gordon, GENIUS" <r...@cybersheet.com>) wrote:
>
> :>Approach is where the initial advantage is determined. Whomever makes
> first
> :>contact is in the inferior position.
>

Again, I filtered RayRay after Sept 11 but maybe Mr. Self-Proclaimed Genius
should learn the rules of grammar.

Who is a subject, whom is an object.

Whoever, not whomever, is the grammatically correct way to begin that
sentence.

Normally, I'm not the grammar and spelling police, but when someone insists
on their genius status, they're begging for it.

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