Here are my general statistics when I'm into the game.
I go out 3 or 4 times a week as I'm very social and I really love the
attention I get being surrounded by women. Its actually a fun thing to do,
better than tv or a video game. Lets say conservatively that I go out only
3 times a week though.
I go for 4 hour sessions (10pm to 2am usually) at 3 days a week = 12 hours a
week of really fun seducing time. I will approach about 3 girls an hour
(thats 1 every 20 minutes on average). Thats 12 girls total for the night.
Not bad. 12 girls approached in a club (or that could be divided by 2
clubs - I usually club hop once in a night) is a realistic #. Im sure you
can easily find 6 girls in a club that are worthy of you. I usually start
with the BEST rating girl in the place, unless that situation is hard (she
could be in a group of guys) then what I do is go for less rated girls but I
get them to surround me infront of the one I want. This way she SEES that
Im a ladies man. The positive testimonial she receives silently from these
women allows me to enter into her world. She will know Im a fun guy and
will be intrigued to find out why all these women flocked around me. This
is a consistant approach of mine for the last 1.5 years. I average 1 new
approach every 20 minutes. However, of these, 1 out of 3 per hour will not
go past the INTRO scripting and I good naturedly abort with dignity (there
is really no such thing as failure - there is 0 pain in aborting as this is
a well rehearsed contingency plan). So those ones take up little time at
all. This leave me more time per hour to chat with the approaches that go
past the INTRO scripting. However, on average 1 of these girls per hour
will lead to an abort, whether she just doesnt like me, or the situation
went down not all that great. Again, I leave with dignity. Im just a guy
chatting and having fun. Im not HITTING on anyone. However, 1 out of 3 per
hour will pan out to my closing. This means I get on average 4 phone #s a
night. Yep, I get realistically anywhere from 1 to 5 a night, but 3 to 5 is
more like it for me. 1 is a suck night. 2 ok, 3 good, 4 good and happy. 5
really happy , 6 my fucking day and my top day was 7 phone #s in 4 hours.
Average it to 4, or one an hour.
Now just cause you have the # doesnt mean you are gonna fuck them. My #s
grow stale quickly. Shit happens to reduce the chance of fucking here too.
So, out of 12 girls approached in a night (6 girls at each of 2 clubs) only
8 go past the opening and only 4 become options with #s. Of the 4 maybe 2
will pan out to our getting together. That is 6 to 8 get togethers with
women in a week. Yes, Ive done that, but what Ive also done lately is
qualify the girls more and only call the girls I really want. I had 34 #s
on my pending list about 3 weeks ago and now Ive rounded it down to less
than 8. I just tore it apart. Called them all and if I get a voice mail
and I leave a message and they dont call back if I left a message 2 times, I
drop the # cause I dont have time for that shit. They would call if they
really liked me. So anyway, when its all said and done, I end up with 3
girls who want to fuck me per week and I round that down to making 2 friends
who want me but I play hard to get (I invite them out to clubs so I look
like a ladies man or just chat on the phone or hang out with them) and I
then can fuck one new girl a week. I may not even fuck them. I like blow
jobs ALOT. Again, this is an average based on my going out 3 times a week.
With this much fun and excitment, sometimes I go out MORE.
This week thanks to a car issue, I only went out 2 times. On the first of
these 2 sessions, I spent time with one girl only but she was a 10 so it was
worth it and I got out late 11pm and left early 1am. So I was happy for the
amount of time I played. 1 10 in 2 hehe. (one girls #, who I rate a 10, in 2
hours of game time.) The other time I was late out too but stayed til 2am
therefore for a 3 hour session and I attracted 2 girls, one of which I let
her go cause her new 'boy' friend was so lame and I couldnt do it to him -
he didnt see me coming (I was holding her hands and she was so into me and
he just sat there all pouting so I said fuck it, have her. The other girl I
got the # though. I could have gotten more but we went to 3 new places that
day. One of them sucked, one was dead and the one where I DID get action
was just not quality enough to seduce 6 worhty women. So I only got 2 #s
this week. Not bad for 2 short nights out though. I also expected less
because we were researching new territory.
Girls overlap too. I mean, I could have 2 girlfriends who are very close to
me and go out only 2 times a week for only an extra fuck every couple weeks.
Over the course of the last 6 years, Ive fucked 56 girls (not all FUCKED,
but sexual cum shoots so I call them fucking) so that is about 1 a month as
an average. Of course some monthes I got no new girls because of long term
relationships that only allow 2 girlfriends and no extra nookage. But you
get the idea. Its an average.
My point to all this? The more doors you knock on ther more will open. If
you are wondering why you dont have a girl, its because you stay at home too
much. Go out 3 times a week and meet 12 girls a session. Of that, get 4
#s. If you only get 1 # a week, you may be a month or two away from having
sex. But if you get12 #s a week, you get to fuck the best of the best AND
get a good few up and running into relationships to spread your valuable
time between. Have 3 girlfriends. I have had that before.
If morals get in your way with fucking girls this way and you want to have
only one permanent girlfriend, I still suggest working hard in the getting
#s phase cause many wont turn into rich relationships due to stupid shit
like she lives too far or her job gets in the way or shcool or what have
you. So get the #s and kiss the girls. You dont have to fuck them. Just
obtain options for the future.
Pick up the pace guys. Lets here the stories you have to tell.
Mystery
So you *do* have a heart after all! I'm impressed.
Venus
Mystery wrote:
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> one of which I let
> her go cause her new 'boy' friend was so lame and I couldnt do it to him -
> he didnt see me coming (I was holding her hands and she was so into me and
> he just sat there all pouting so I said fuck it, have her.
<snipped the rest>
So ask yourself...how bad do you want it?
Now, if your approach sucks then you're going to hear a lot of nos. But the
more you put yourself out there, the more feedback you're going to get and
the better your approach is going to become. The first time I gave a
presentation to a prospect my voice was shaking and so were my hands. She
actually bought a policy from me but I think it was more out of pity than
being impressed with my presentation.
POINT: You never know who is going to be interested(for whatever
reason)until you make your move.
I still get scared when I approach an attractive woman I don't know. But
the bottom line is if I don't talk to her I'm NEVER going to get what I
want.
If you're absolutely petrified, then approach women who don't frighten
you(ones you're not attracted to) and work your way up to those you really
want to meet.
Like Mystery says, don't hit on them. Take the pressure off yourself. Just
focus on her and having an interesting conversation. Walk before you run.
A fellow traveller,
Lance
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In fact, Ive felt this with guys who thought their 'style' was so good for
picking up women and they get all testosteroneee and challenge me and say,
ok, Im gonna clean town. as the nights progresses, Im into my 3rd
passionate kiss and 5th # and they are still trying to chat up the fat drunk
polish girl who doesnt speak a word of english. I dont feel good winning
anymore at that time. I feel sad for the guy 'cause here is all 'talk' and
really I know he has problems and is only one of those LAMER nice guys.
I think there are many NICE guys who are pick-up artists. But most NICE
GUYS are also LAMERS! I think it isnt a matter of not being NICE that gets
you results. Its a matter of how fucking LAME you are (how chicken, how
full of excuses about how your own style works.)
I hear people tell me everyone has a style. I say, fine. I agree. But
then they say, "My style works for me, your style works for you." And then
I notice thye havent had a girlfriend in 6 months. What the fuck is that
all about. If you dont have OPTIONS with which to fuck from, then your
system ISNT working. How long is your list of #s? Honestly, I spend just
as much time in a club as any other guy spends in the club. We arrive at
about the same time and we leave at about the same time. Im not the first
to get there nor the last to leave. But Im pretty sure Im the guy who
leaves the place with the most OPTIONS.
Definition: OPTION. And option is not a phone # on a piece of paper. This
paper is merely a representation of aOPTION to fuck. The OPTION is the
attraction of you that the woman holds in her head. Hey, this may actually
be HER option.
Mystery wrote in message <35f4f...@nemo.idirect.com>...
>Hey, Im considering GOING to NY. Odd you said that.
>
>
Please let us know if you do.
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Chris in NYC metro area
Mystery, if you visit NYC post it to the group, I would be very happy to
watch firsthand how you approach women in clubs.
This past weekend while I was waiting for my date to arrive at the club, I
was just too shy to initiate a conversation with some of the ladies there.
I felt bad about it because I have spent a lot of time reading how to do
this, but I think I learn best by observation.
Your logic is self-sabotaging you. Learning by watching is not acceptable.
You know that man. You have to get out there. You cant learn how to drive
a car by watching someone do it. You have to get behind the wheel. Others
can tell you the basics, but you need to really DRIVE to learn. Do you have
your license? Its exactly the same learning curve buddy. 100% the same
thing.