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James Oburton

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Jun 16, 2004, 11:07:12 PM6/16/04
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You people are such losers! I am still amazed at the seemingly
endless bickering about the same thing. How long has this been going
on? How much closer are you to your goal? Yeah I thought so. You're
just so much in love with Ray.
I don't expect any replies because this hits so close to home.

HeeroYuy

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Jun 16, 2004, 11:11:15 PM6/16/04
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"James Oburton" <j...@haha.com> wrote in message
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Which begs the question: If this person is so annoyed with not being able to
learn anything here, why doesn't he look for advice elsewhere instead?

James Oburton

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Jun 16, 2004, 11:16:39 PM6/16/04
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I have, I did. Don't really need it anymore, anyway.

HeeroYuy

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Jun 16, 2004, 11:36:50 PM6/16/04
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"James Oburton" <j...@haha.com> wrote in message
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Thank you for answering my question. My curiosity has been satisfied.

Vince Runza

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Jun 17, 2004, 8:30:14 AM6/17/04
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"James Oburton" <j...@haha.com> wrote in message
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Dear Sir:
What I do to GORK steers hapless newbies away from his potentially
aggravating harassment. Therefore, I reach my goal with every post
disparaging GORK.

BTW, who the fuck are you?
--
Vince


aardvark9084

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Jun 17, 2004, 8:46:00 AM6/17/04
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"James Oburton" <j...@haha.com> wrote in message
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here's a reply...

take a deep breath and suck your pants up your ass.


aardvark


Daedalus

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Jun 17, 2004, 1:21:51 PM6/17/04
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On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 23:07:12 -0400, James Oburton <j...@haha.com>,
wrote:

Troll...

Ray Gordon

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Jun 17, 2004, 1:32:44 PM6/17/04
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> Which begs the question: If this person is so annoyed with not being able
to
> learn anything here, why doesn't he look for advice elsewhere instead?

That could be said of you and many others who do nothing but flame me here.

HeeroYuy

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Jun 17, 2004, 1:58:36 PM6/17/04
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"Ray Gordon" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote in message
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Gordon's statement begs another question: Who said I was looking for advice
today? I may have been a while ago, but that was just before Gordon's
diatribes and lack of knowledge turned this place into a wasteland.

Ray Gordon

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Jun 17, 2004, 3:42:40 PM6/17/04
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> >> Which begs the question: If this person is so annoyed with not being
able
> > to
> >> learn anything here, why doesn't he look for advice elsewhere instead?
> >
> > That could be said of you and many others who do nothing but flame me
> > here.
>
> Gordon's statement begs another question: Who said I was looking for
advice
> today? I may have been a while ago, but that was just before Gordon's
> diatribes and lack of knowledge turned this place into a wasteland.

The classic "converted shill" routine: pretend to be neutral (or have been
netural), then act "convinced" by what you see here.

You have no other motive for hanging here if you think it's such a
"wasteland."

Ever see the "unofficial Wendy's spokesperson" commercials?

Krus T. Olfard

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Jun 17, 2004, 5:41:46 PM6/17/04
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"Ray Gordon" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote in
news:QumAc.34824$wi2....@nwrdny01.gnilink.net:

> The classic "converted shill" routine: pretend to be neutral (or have
> been netural), then act "convinced" by what you see here.
>
> You have no other motive for hanging here if you think it's such a
> "wasteland."
>

I really fail to understand why you do not realize that 'every person' who
comes in here for the first time IS NEUTRAL where you are concerned. It's
so simple - they've never heard of you - you are NOT A WELL KNOWN PERSON.
The newbies to this group could not care less about Ray Gordon.
But almost every one of them, after visiting this newsgroup a few times,
forms an opinion about you based on your posts.
Really, Ray, the opinions that people form about you are based on YOUR OWN
POSTS.
Almost no one is brain dead enough to form opinions of people based on what
others post about them. They do not know the people posting so they do not
have any reason to believe that the opinions of others would match their
own opinions. Reasonable people will form their own opinions of you based
on what YOU POST, not what others post about you.
Which means that YOUR OWN ACTIONS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE OPINIONS THAT
OTHER PEOPLE FORM ABOUT YOU!

And you, for absolutely no reason at all except perhaps an odd fantasy
floating around in your mind, called me a shill! And you have made
unsubstantiated claims that you would not back up with facts when I asked
you to. And you do not bother to do anything to back up the claim that your
"seduction theories" work even though I've asked you to.

These actions of yours have caused me to form an opinion about you. It is
not a positive opinion. You could change this opinion, which I've formed by
observing your posts, if you wanted to. All you would have to do is stop
calling people shills for no reason that's obvious to anyone but you, by
backing up all claims that you make in your posts, and by providing
evidence that your "seduction theories" actually work.

I truly believe that if you would do those three simple things many people
would form a different opinion about you than the opinion that they hold
now. And those three things are not difficult things to do. Most people
behave in that way all the time in their daily lives. They don't accuse
people of something that they do not have proof of. They only make claims
that they back up with facts. They do not balk at providing proof that
products or services they provide are effective.

Now, being completely honest with you, I do not expect you to do even ONE
of these three things. I do not expect you to believe that I am giving this
advice in all sincerity, although I am. I think that your world view will
not let you even consider acting in this manner. Which is unfortunate, not
only for you but for everyone in every newsgroup and forum you post in.

I M Constantine

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Jun 17, 2004, 5:55:27 PM6/17/04
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>From: "Krus T. Olfard"

>I really fail to understand why you do not realize that 'every person' who
comes in here for the first time IS NEUTRAL where you are concerned. It's so
simple - they've never heard of you - you are NOT A WELL KNOWN PERSON.
The newbies to this group could not care less about Ray Gordon. But almost
every one of them, after visiting this newsgroup a few times, forms an opinion
about you based on your posts.
Really, Ray, the opinions that people form about you are based on YOUR OWN
POSTS.
Almost no one is brain dead enough to form opinions of people based on what
others post about them. They do not know the people posting so they do not have
any reason to believe that the opinions of others would match their own
opinions. Reasonable people will form their own opinions of you based on what
YOU POST, not what others post about you.
Which means that YOUR OWN ACTIONS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE OPINIONS THAT OTHER
PEOPLE FORM ABOUT YOU!<<

Ditto.


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James Oburton

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Jun 17, 2004, 9:11:13 PM6/17/04
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On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 21:54:47 GMT, "HeeroYuy" <h@h.h> wrote:

>
>"Ray Gordon" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote in message

>news:QumAc.34824$wi2....@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...

>Here we see Gordon committing the very same libel that he accuses others of
>participating in. I've told Gordon before that he had better have proof that
>people are shills before running his mouth reckless like he just did.
>
>

This is not specifically directed at HeeroYuy, but
everyone....anyways, "Here we go again". Don't you people ever get
laid? If you did, you wouldn't have time to write thousands of
messages, some several paragraphs long.

James Oburton

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Jun 17, 2004, 9:14:29 PM6/17/04
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On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 23:07:12 -0400, James Oburton <j...@haha.com>
wrote:

Ok, ok, I hit a nerve. I won't make fun of anyone's online imaginary
friends and enemies anymore.

Alex

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Jun 17, 2004, 9:11:53 PM6/17/04
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in article 56g4d0ld540uki4n3...@4ax.com, James Oburton at
j...@haha.com wrote on 6/17/04 9:11 PM:


> Don't you people ever get
> laid? If you did, you wouldn't have time to write thousands of
> messages, some several paragraphs long.


That's what we keep telling Gordon.

Vince Runza

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Jun 17, 2004, 9:34:37 PM6/17/04
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"James Oburton" <j...@haha.com> wrote in message
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For the record, James, I have no idea who you are, much less your skill at
seduction. If all you can do is snipe at those of us who have skills AND
enjoy hammering GORK, you need to take a pill.
--
Vince


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James Oburton

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Jun 17, 2004, 10:45:26 PM6/17/04
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With a name like that, I wouldn't be so cocky.


James Oburton

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Jun 17, 2004, 10:44:43 PM6/17/04
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>have skills AND
How do I know you have skills? There's not much exchange of these
ideas in this NG.


>enjoy hammering GORK
Have you ever heard the phrase "beating a dead horse"?

James King

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Jun 17, 2004, 10:52:10 PM6/17/04
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In article <6pl4d0t69tio9s7hj...@4ax.com>,
James Oburton <j...@haha.com> wrote:

You shouldn't be so antsy about it.

--
... and that's the James King Version!

Vince Runza

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Jun 18, 2004, 7:15:01 AM6/18/04
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> >take a deep breath and suck your pants up your ass.
> >
> >
> >aardvark
>
> With a name like that, I wouldn't be so cocky.

Brother Aardvark is world famous. Even RJ mentioned him, referring not only
to his nick but the term Waldo he coined to describe AFC's.

So, Waldo, how's you love life?
--
Vince


Vince Runza

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Jun 18, 2004, 7:28:29 AM6/18/04
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> How do I know you have skills?

[Title of my archive at FastSeduction 101, written by Formhandle]
Vincent Runza: One of the elder seductionists:
http://www.fastseduction.com/archives/archive_vrunza.zip

I post content which has consensual validation. I also have a long and
distinguished history of posting content that helps people get laid. A
prominent member of the community indicated my posts were the most
respected by himself and his wingmen.

> There's not much exchange of these
> ideas in this NG.

That's why I also post at mASF. That's where the real discussion and
exchange of seduction ideas occurs.

> >enjoy hammering GORK
> Have you ever heard the phrase "beating a dead horse"?

Have you ever heard the phrase "What's it to you?" Or, "Warning: Bridge
out. Detour." How about, "You can lead a horse's ass to order, but you
can't make him think"?

As a person named by GORK in his ineffectual lawsuit, I have the
satisfaction of knowing I'm keeping alive the spirit of my dead friend, who
was also famous for flaming GORK and was threatened with legal action by
that nitwit. Also, I know for a fact my late friend's brother enjoys the
repartee.

Again, who the fuck are you?
--
Vince


James Oburton

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Jun 19, 2004, 4:29:08 PM6/19/04
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If I told you I'm a pathetic loser who never gets any women, you'd
believe that.

However, if I told you I have a girlfriend who's intelligent, funny,
all-around nice girl, who's over 6 foot athletic/slender, and happens
to be very horny and adores me, would you believe that??

You see Vince, I really don't care what you think of me, because I
don't know you and have NOTHING to lose. If my love life sucked, I'd
say it. So what. But it doesn't. The latter is the correct one.

James Oburton

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Jun 19, 2004, 4:29:45 PM6/19/04
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Ummmm, what do you want me to say? Whatever I say will be doubted
regardless.

Vince Runza

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Jun 19, 2004, 5:18:21 PM6/19/04
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> However, if I told you I have a girlfriend who's intelligent, funny,
> all-around nice girl, who's over 6 foot athletic/slender, and happens
> to be very horny and adores me, would you believe that??

Yes.

> You see Vince, I really don't care what you think of me, because I
> don't know you and have NOTHING to lose. If my love life sucked, I'd
> say it. So what. But it doesn't. The latter is the correct one.

Since you don't know me, why be disparaging? Further, why waste your time
TROLLING in this NG?

I've helped plenty of people get from AFC to satisfied with their progress.
So far, all you've done here is denigrate yourself. Either post on topic or
go ask GORK if he needs a roommate.
--
Vince


Vince Runza

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Jun 19, 2004, 5:19:59 PM6/19/04
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> Ummmm, what do you want me to say? Whatever I say will be doubted
> regardless.
>

James, you clearly got off to a bad start. What do you expect? Post content
or be quiet.
--
Vince


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