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Nothing

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Dec 3, 2000, 3:10:12 AM12/3/00
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Ok. I am talking about someone specific but not necissarily her. It could
also help me in general but I will use this girl as an example. I have known
this friend nearly all of my life. In fact at one time we started going out
with each other. THat last about 6 months until I broke it off. We now think
of each other as friends. Well I think it could be closer to brother and
sister but you get my gist. We both have a lot in common and both want the
same thing in a relationship. My only problem is I need to change her
mindset about me. I am pretty sure I would like to get back in a
relationship with her. How can I make her think differently of me? Any
certain things to try?
Let me know.
Thanks
mpm

Doctor Owl [Feathered Serpents]

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Dec 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM12/3/00
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Firstly...become unavailable... to HER:
As long as you are the perfect friend to her, she won't want to date you
again, because that will "ruin our perfect friendship." You need to do
less with and for her, subtely, like saying you're busy [and for hell sure,
you aren't paying for anything for her at ALL]. Now she will begin to
think that "time" you're not spending with her is something she might
be able to be a part of, once she's with you.

Secondly... [2 choices]... PIVOT HER:
Take her out with you into the city to a night club, and make sure that
you speak to and dance with and get kisses from all the hot chicks
there, so that she sees how desireable you are. I bet by the end of the
night you're either going home with one of them [who think that they
are being chosen over your hot g/f], or your ex [who is thinking, damn
everyone wants him, I'm going to take him!].

And/Or... treat her like a PUA would:
After that [or maybe somewhere else], you can definately ask her to
coffee with you, sit beside her, and start some Kino going exactly as
if it was a date... lead the talk into sexual acts and feelings... get her
all hot and flustered, then ask her over your place and start kissing,
don't even mention things about your relationship. After you've had
sex again, wait until she brings up "Where are we?" then you can say
"What would you like?"... and if it's anything but "Relationship", then
rinse, wash, repeat :)

All of the above needs PUA skills however, so you have a lot of
reading and training and practise ahead of you. But, it's the only
way out of LJBF land. Maybe by the end of learning, you won't
even want your ex anymore :)

DrOwlFS

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Stepleader

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Dec 3, 2000, 7:52:29 PM12/3/00
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how would you show interest in her if you couldnt talk? think of this for
a while. how could an ape do it? tender, subtle behaviors. think of
this. write 10 things you would do.

now do them.

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Dec 3, 2000, 7:54:43 PM12/3/00
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No. I disagree with the entire post. she is NOT someone you are trying to
PU. You alredy KNOW her. She wants to FEEL GOOD with you. She wants to
GIVE INTO YOU. So GIVE INTO HER. be an ape looking for attention via
kino. dont talk. stop talking entirely. see her and ask her not to talk.
then just SHOW her your interest. Be GENTLE and childlike. Like a puppy
wanting attention. Dont give up til she pets you.

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Doctor Owl [Feathered Serpents]

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Dec 4, 2000, 12:51:52 AM12/4/00
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I disagree with your post. He's her friend for ages and doesn't touch
her, then suddenly he goes out with her and is pawing all over her, all
she will do is freak out and run wondering "What's gotten into him?"

DrOwlFS

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Nothing

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Dec 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM12/4/00
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So what can I do to be subtle but get my point across to her? I think I
should jsut talk to her. Thats hwo I have solved everyhting else with her.
Its probably the best thing I think in my case but I just wanted to hear
other possible options.
THanks
Mpm

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Nothing

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Dec 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM12/4/00
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She has been my lover before so what makes that different than now? It could
be just like it used to be if you ask me.
Mpm

Stil <st...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:90hmsi$646$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> In article <t2jpbi3...@corp.supernews.com>,


> "Nothing" <m...@eastland.net> wrote:
> > Ok. I am talking about someone specific but not necissarily her. It
could
> > also help me in general but I will use this girl as an example. I have
> known
> > this friend nearly all of my life.
>

> Stop right there. It is extremely difficult to turn "friends" into
> lovers. Once she classifies you as a friend, you're pretty much sunk.
> She can be used as a pivot though. As Doctor Owl said, arrive with her
> at a club (social proof), and pick up other women. You have a much
> better shot going down this route.
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

Stil

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Dec 4, 2000, 10:19:50 PM12/4/00
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In article <t2jpbi3...@corp.supernews.com>,
"Nothing" <m...@eastland.net> wrote:
> Ok. I am talking about someone specific but not necissarily her. It could
> also help me in general but I will use this girl as an example. I have
known
> this friend nearly all of my life.

Stop right there. It is extremely difficult to turn "friends" into

Doctor Owl [Feathered Serpents]

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Dec 4, 2000, 11:32:46 PM12/4/00
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I can identify with how that talk is going to go:

"I like you."
'Oh, that's nice, I like you too.'
"No, I really like you."
'Oh.'
"I really really like you."
'Uhm, but we're just friends.'
"We can be more."
'But I'm not attracted to you.'

Right? Am I right? Even if she was attracted to you on some level, she
will ignore it because I think the most classic chick logic out there
is.....

'I get everything I want from this friendship, why give it up just because
he wants to have sex with me?'

That's why it's important to start off by denying some time with her and
making yourself look busy. This lets her know that she has to do some
things to get your valuable time back.

Then using her as a social pivot makes her think "Well, he's looking for
women now [I thought he was happy with our friendship!] and he'll be
sexing them and maybe that will change our friendship to mean less, and
well, maybe I could sex him instead..."

DrOwlFS

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> So what can I do to be subtle but get my point across to her? I think I
> should jsut talk to her. Thats hwo I have solved everyhting else with her.
> Its probably the best thing I think in my case but I just wanted to hear
> other possible options.
> THanks
> Mpm
>

> Doctor Owl [Feathered Serpents] <dro...@vianet.net.au> wrote in message
> news:90fbip$hok$1...@yeppa.connect.com.au...

Doctor Owl [Feathered Serpents]

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Dec 5, 2000, 12:53:33 AM12/5/00
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Well, let us know how it goes and we'll see. Some women
can be different.

DrOwlFS

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> She has been my lover before so what makes that different than now? It
could
> be just like it used to be if you ask me.
> Mpm
>
> Stil <st...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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