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Bornnatural

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Nov 17, 2006, 1:50:18 PM11/17/06
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Did you see Fatal Attraction starring Michael Douglas? Well, real life takes
over from reel life in this story.

A bitter former runway model, Anita Debnath has been stalking a man Chay
Ankers, for nearly 5 years. The news emerged today at the Leicester Crown
Court in London where the hearing took place.

Chay Ankers will never forget the night of July 20, 2001.

Operations manager to a logistics company, Chay met Anita ( a temporary
clerk) in a office party and spent the night with her at her residence after
the party was over.

For Chay the matter was just that, an one night stand. He had seduced women
all the time using something he called "speed seduction". He could not have
imagined the after effects, as Anita began pursuing him determinedly after
the incident.

Next day everything was normal as both behaved as the incident forgotten.
But that autumn Anita booked a hotel room and called up Chay for another hot
session.

Chay declined the offer and this led to a remarkable chain of events.

After months of silence, Debnath again sent a Valentine Day email to Chay.
The email claimed that Chay had infected Anita with the sexually transmitted
disease herpes.

Meantime Ankers was already into a six weeks old new relationship with an
artist Melanie Hamlet.

After getting the email Ankers and his girlfriend Melanie decided to go for
a medical checkup. They passed all the medical tests as clean and Ankers
replied back to Anita stating the reports.

But Anita was not the one to give it up easily and called up Chay again on
his Mobile. Ankers recalled " I responded to her email and said we had been
checked out and cleared. About a week later she called up my mobile and was
going on about it and this time I was quite rude and told her to f*** off
and leave me alone".

Anita then began using a web forum named Avengers Den to get tips on how to
get even with both Ankers and Hamlet. She used tips from the erb forum to go
go to their local pub, moved the the same town as the Ankers and Hamlet. She
also sent letters to Melanie saying that Ankers was involved in other
affairs. One time she coated Melanies car with paint strippers and also
slashed its tyres.

She paid Far Eastern Hackers $110 a time, to gain access to Ankers email box
and later sent gay porn to his account. She also sent up a website damning
him and his dating methods and sent messages to his coworkers stating that
Ankers stalked her!

Ankers and Melanie changed email accounts and moved out for holidays. But
Anita flew down to Venezuella where the pair was holidaying and stalked them
there.

Recalls Ankers "It is scary that she followed us all the way to Venezuela. I
couldn't see how one night stand nearly four years ago could make someone
behave like that. It's just bizzare. " I never knew I was that good, Chay
smiled.

He added " All she has ever said is that I've given her a disease and it's
completely untrue. We had Sellotape over the letterbox to guard against
flaming envelopes, bin bags over the windows and were carrying out all night
vigils.

But Anita's campaigns didnot stop here. Now living in Prioriy Walk ,
Hinckley, Leicestershire, Anita faced three charges of dishonestly
attempting to obtain three $100,000 in the names of Ankers and a relating of
Ankers on February 18, 2005. She wanted to obtain a 2nd loan for $100,000 in
Melanies name, and yet another one of $12,500 the next day.

Anita was banned on january 2005 from making contacts with Ankers or
Melanie. She admitted 5 computer related offences and perverting the course
of justice.

Judge Collis told Debnath that she was suffering from an 'acute mental
state' but he didnot want to jail her.

"You are set on a course of destruction, fuelled by your jealousy and need
for revenge. The only way forward is to give you the guidance and
rehabilitation you need" - the judge observed. Just get over him or find
someone like him and move on with your life.

But Anita, who reoffended, is back in court. James Varley, prosecuting, told
the jury yesterday "The prosecution case is not that this women tried to get
more than $400,000 - that's not her motivation. In 2001, after an office
party, they had a one-night stand, and that's where it comes from. For the
last four years she'd had a fixation about this man.. She stated that she
had never met a man that could make her feel the way she did with Chay.

tracey Morgan, director of support group Network for Surviving Stalking,
commented - "This case is horryfying. People are becoming more and more
aware of electronic stalking. The internet, emails and texting are fantastic
tools, but in the wrong hands these dating methods can be instruments of
terror".

THE POWER OF SS.....ADD IN MM AND YOU ARE UNSTOPPABLE.


Bornnatural

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Nov 17, 2006, 2:21:48 PM11/17/06
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"Bornnatural" <m...@asf.com> wrote in message
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> Did you see Fatal Attraction starring Michael Douglas? Well, real life
> takes over from reel life in this story.


I wonder if Foxhunters ever have problems like this? Ray have you ever been
stalked......by a woman? I don't mean online, I mean out in the real world.


BN


Scruff

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Nov 17, 2006, 2:22:06 PM11/17/06
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Bornnatural wrote:

British women... scary as fuck! and i've known a few...

Scruff.

Bornnatural

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Nov 17, 2006, 2:24:20 PM11/17/06
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"Scruff" <Scruff...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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They are more independant and less submissive in general aren't they? They
aren't to be toyed with for the most part...:)

BN


Scruff

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Nov 17, 2006, 2:31:16 PM11/17/06
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On Nov 17, 7:24 pm, "Bornnatural" <m...@asf.com> wrote:
> "Scruff" <ScruffByN...@googlemail.com> wrote in messagenews:1163791326.8...@j44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

> > Scruff.They are more independant and less submissive in general aren't they? They


> aren't to be toyed with for the most part...:)
>
> BN

yeah, i think thats a fair assessment. women here are brought up to be
in control, they're literally brought up to believe there is a gender
war going on and they have to demonstrate how women are better than
men, even if they don't consciously know that. i sincerely believe
that.

but they can be as sweet and lovable as anyone else though and most
would dearly love to have a knight in shining armour, even though they
are taught not to.

you got to feel sorry for women really. on side they are brought up on
fairy-tales of heros and damsels, the other side they are taught that
there is a gender war and they must be stronger than men. one side
they're taught to be sexual and erotic, and grab what they want, the
other is that if they do, they will be labelled as slappers.

I'm glad i'm a man. all i have to worry about is being moulded into a
'Nice Guy' and not getting any, or being a cocky SOB and getting
laid... hmmm....

Scruff.

Bornnatural

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Nov 17, 2006, 2:58:51 PM11/17/06
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"Scruff" <Scruff...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> > yeah, i think thats a fair assessment. women here are brought up to be
> in control, they're literally brought up to believe there is a gender
> war going on and they have to demonstrate how women are better than
> men, even if they don't consciously know that. i sincerely believe
> that.
>
> but they can be as sweet and lovable as anyone else though and most
> would dearly love to have a knight in shining armour, even though they
> are taught not to.
>
> you got to feel sorry for women really. on side they are brought up on
> fairy-tales of heros and damsels, the other side they are taught that
> there is a gender war and they must be stronger than men. one side
> they're taught to be sexual and erotic, and grab what they want, the
> other is that if they do, they will be labelled as slappers.
>
> I'm glad i'm a man. all i have to worry about is being moulded into a
> 'Nice Guy' and not getting any, or being a cocky SOB and getting
> laid... hmmm....
>
> Scruff.
>

Didn't know it was that bad. But I see ways of making that work for
you.....heheheheheheheh...:)


BN


Varjak

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Nov 17, 2006, 3:09:29 PM11/17/06
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"Bornnatural" <m...@asf.com> wrote:
>Did you see Fatal Attraction starring Michael Douglas? Well, real life takes
>over from reel life in this story.
>
>A bitter former runway model, Anita Debnath has been stalking a man Chay
>Ankers, for nearly 5 years. The news emerged today at the Leicester Crown
>Court in London where the hearing took place.

shouldn't that be Leicester Crown Court in Leicester, London is about 100 miles
away

That scary woman once lived a couple of hundred yards away from me, I'm
beginning to think it's something in the water round here.

Varjak

Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"

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Nov 17, 2006, 3:16:30 PM11/17/06
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A few things:

The guy could have just been fundamentally desirable, while the woman
appears fundamentally desperate, which is more likely to leave her on the
market, and more likely to make *any* method "work."

Many women scorned will just have a guy beat the "player" up instead.

If she is worth keeping, and the methods are "unstoppable," then she'll just
go from one "unstoppable" guy to the next, or the next guys will be
"stopped" because she's "in love" with player #1.

Notice how she said she thought other men couldn't do the same thing? She
was mistaken, and that mistake is easily corrected. Once corrected, the
method becomes irrelevant and the man is judged on other considerations,
assuming the method was even relevant in the first place, which it usually
was not.


--
Money is not "game."
Looks are not "game."
Social status or value is not "game."
Those are the things that game makes unnecessary.

A seduction guru who teaches you that looks, money or status is game is not
teaching you "game," but how to be an AFC. He uses his students' money to
get women and laughs that "AFCs pay my rent."


Yup..It's me...

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Nov 17, 2006, 3:28:41 PM11/17/06
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>A few things:

From: Iown...@hotmail.com
Subject: Ray Gordon vs. The Magnificent Seven (1 of 4)
Date: 1998/09/18
Message-ID: <36027E...@hotmail.com>
NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 08:46:14 EST
Newsgroups: alt.sex.stories

These young cunts are tough. They’re athletes, at the peak of
physical and mental conditioning. This won’t be like boffing
some spoiled Hollywood fucktoy like Alicia Silverstone. These
girls will fight us ... they’ll test us every step of the
way. We need guys with no souls, real ghouls, Ted Bundys with
hard-ons.

The other cunts like Shannon Miller and Jaycie Phelps are
lily- white suburban cunts. The sheer presence of a nigger
with a footlong dick wagging in their faces will keep them
paralyzed with terror. Especially for that little cunt,
Dominique Moceanu We should gangbang her with the Posse,
give ‘em carte blanche.

I’ll take Shannon. I relished the thought. Of all the cunts,
I thought she might just be the sweetest. She had grown up in
the last few years, and even though I love a prepubescent
fucktoy as much as the next guy, there’s something about an
older teen like Shannon that really gets me hard. Maybe it’s
because I know that they know all the twisted shit that can
happen when they’re under a man’s will. The young cunts just
take it because they have no comprehension what’s coming next.
The older bitches, though, they know. You can see it in their
eyes, that blank cold dread, that stark, catatonic horror. May
I suggest forcing her to suck and fuck some stallion cock?

Having grown up in Oklahoma and being around such animals her
whole life, it’s a pretty sure bet she’s seen a big horse dick
and fantasized about what it would feel like blowing it and
shoving it in her tight, teenage twat. All country girls do.
That’s why forcing them to encounter such a beast is so
psychologically devastating. You are making them live out
their most depraved fantasy, and you are showing them that
you know what lurks in the darkest corners of their slutty
little brains. Stripped of this last vestige of self-respect,
they submit rather readily. I fixed on the image on Shannon
Miller struggling to deep-throat a huge, stallion prick as
I berated her.

Bornnatural

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Nov 17, 2006, 3:30:49 PM11/17/06
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"Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"" <R...@cybersheet.com> wrote in message
news:RaOdnSlpmLwShcPY...@pghconnect.com...

>A few things:
>
> The guy could have just been fundamentally desirable, while the woman
> appears fundamentally desperate, which is more likely to leave her on the
> market, and more likely to make *any* method "work."
>
> Many women scorned will just have a guy beat the "player" up instead.
>
> If she is worth keeping, and the methods are "unstoppable," then she'll
> just go from one "unstoppable" guy to the next, or the next guys will be
> "stopped" because she's "in love" with player #1.
>
> Notice how she said she thought other men couldn't do the same thing? She
> was mistaken, and that mistake is easily corrected. Once corrected, the
> method becomes irrelevant and the man is judged on other considerations,
> assuming the method was even relevant in the first place, which it usually
> was not.


Well the funny thing is, this was all a joke...I added lines here and
there....hehe...eggg on your face.....:)


BN


Scruff

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Nov 17, 2006, 3:39:32 PM11/17/06
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On Nov 17, 7:58 pm, "Bornnatural" <m...@asf.com> wrote:
> "Scruff" <ScruffByN...@googlemail.com> wrote in messagenews:1163791876.3...@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...


>
>
>
>
>
> > > yeah, i think thats a fair assessment. women here are brought up to be
> > in control, they're literally brought up to believe there is a gender
> > war going on and they have to demonstrate how women are better than
> > men, even if they don't consciously know that. i sincerely believe
> > that.
>
> > but they can be as sweet and lovable as anyone else though and most
> > would dearly love to have a knight in shining armour, even though they
> > are taught not to.
>
> > you got to feel sorry for women really. on side they are brought up on
> > fairy-tales of heros and damsels, the other side they are taught that
> > there is a gender war and they must be stronger than men. one side
> > they're taught to be sexual and erotic, and grab what they want, the
> > other is that if they do, they will be labelled as slappers.
>
> > I'm glad i'm a man. all i have to worry about is being moulded into a
> > 'Nice Guy' and not getting any, or being a cocky SOB and getting
> > laid... hmmm....
>

> > Scruff.Didn't know it was that bad. But I see ways of making that work for
> you.....heheheheheheheh...:)
>
> BN

i'm not saying its that bad, it all balances out, its just that some
women just cant deal with it. but yeah, you can use it to your
advantage. my favourite women at the moment are the hard arse types who
are out to make something of themselves. for some reason they seem to
really love having a cocky, in-control guy. they'll be domineering at
work, but go on a date with me and let me make all the decisions. it
must be comforting not to be in control all the time. unfortunately for
women, feminism has made men weak and unconfident - therefore these
dominant women don't get their 'in-control' guy when they get home in
the evening.

just my opinion.

Scruff.

Varjak

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Nov 17, 2006, 3:49:44 PM11/17/06
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check this version,

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/4217191.stm

she even put him on a website of gay prison inmates.

Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"

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Nov 17, 2006, 4:03:38 PM11/17/06
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>> The guy could have just been fundamentally desirable, while the woman
>> appears fundamentally desperate, which is more likely to leave her on the
>> market, and more likely to make *any* method "work."
>>
>> Many women scorned will just have a guy beat the "player" up instead.
>>
>> If she is worth keeping, and the methods are "unstoppable," then she'll
>> just go from one "unstoppable" guy to the next, or the next guys will be
>> "stopped" because she's "in love" with player #1.
>>
>> Notice how she said she thought other men couldn't do the same thing?
>> She was mistaken, and that mistake is easily corrected. Once corrected,
>> the method becomes irrelevant and the man is judged on other
>> considerations, assuming the method was even relevant in the first place,
>> which it usually was not.
>
>
> Well the funny thing is, this was all a joke...

Meaning it was a lie or a fabrication.

Very telling.

Yup..It's me...

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Nov 17, 2006, 5:50:59 PM11/17/06
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>Very telling.

(sung to the Faces Song "..Stay with me..") :

In the mornin' don't say you'll sue me,
'Cause I call U a liar to your Gumby cake hole....
You say your name is Gordon, but we know you as grp-ie
The G-U-R-You? who is full of, oh, so much shit..

Don't need to yell "coercion"
I don't care about your perversions',
'cause with a 'life' like that you got nothin' to laugh about.
Gumby head, hair-lip and STD..
You claim to be a 'tough' S.O.B.
Anytime you want to prove it, just feel free..

PLEASE grp-ie, PLEASE sue me
Shut yer mouth or fuckin' sue me
PLEASE grp-ie, PLEASE sue me
Shut yer trap or fuckin' sue me

So, in the real world, please don't say you'll sue me,
Unless you CAN back up your herpes infested cakehole
Yeah, you know where is my home, your 'dollies' even know my phone,
Just don't tell the world I hide from your whinning, coward's moan..

PLEASE grp-ie, PLEASE sue me
Shut yer mouth or fuckin' sue me
PLEASE grp-ie, PLEASE sue me
Shut yer trap or fuckin' sue me

Want sum mo' apples now..?

(this song really works if ya include the
guitar lines, and walking bass. Try it :)


(For what it iz worth, I've 'sung' this now 4 5+ yrs)

Krus T. Olfard

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Nov 17, 2006, 6:48:54 PM11/17/06
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"Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\"" <R...@cybersheet.com> wrote in
news:RaOdnSlpmLwShcPY...@pghconnect.com:

>
> Notice how she said she thought other men couldn't do the same thing?
> She was mistaken, and that mistake is easily corrected. Once
> corrected, the method becomes irrelevant and the man is judged on
> other considerations, assuming the method was even relevant in the
> first place, which it usually was not.
>
>

the irony of gordy telling how to deal with a mentally ill person...

--
Krustavus Teofilus Olfard

------------------
Everything I post is my opinion. If you don't like my opinions then
killfile me, if you have the balls.

HeeroYuy

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Nov 17, 2006, 7:16:46 PM11/17/06
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"Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"" <R...@cybersheet.com> wrote in message
news:hu6dnblhaoEGvsPY...@pghconnect.com...

>>> The guy could have just been fundamentally desirable, while the woman
>>> appears fundamentally desperate, which is more likely to leave her on
>>> the market, and more likely to make *any* method "work."
>>>
>>> Many women scorned will just have a guy beat the "player" up instead.
>>>
>>> If she is worth keeping, and the methods are "unstoppable," then she'll
>>> just go from one "unstoppable" guy to the next, or the next guys will be
>>> "stopped" because she's "in love" with player #1.
>>>
>>> Notice how she said she thought other men couldn't do the same thing?
>>> She was mistaken, and that mistake is easily corrected. Once corrected,
>>> the method becomes irrelevant and the man is judged on other
>>> considerations, assuming the method was even relevant in the first
>>> place, which it usually was not.
>>
>>
>> Well the funny thing is, this was all a joke...
>
> Meaning it was a lie or a fabrication.
>
> Very telling.

Very telling indeed. It tells me that Gordon cannot grasp the very essence
of humor, for if he did, he would enjoy life a lot more. Or is he actually
happy about being miserable? I never understood those types of people.


Tedd...@splat.net

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Nov 21, 2006, 12:24:23 PM11/21/06
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That doesn't make a bit of sense. As the Court said, "Totally
incomprehensible".

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