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Ray Gordon

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Aug 13, 2004, 6:27:54 PM8/13/04
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He got himself a HIGH CLASS WHORE too. He had some help from some famous
people in doing so (access to those circles will make a 9-10 part her legs a
lot). He couldn't really get mad that I call her that because, well, she is
one, though he might feign some anger at the idea.

This particular guru used to say that relationships were fake, counter to
human nature and biology, and the worst form of oneitis. He taught men how
to avoid commitment, how to become players, and how to go out looking for
hotties in clubs, bars, and at parties.

Does this guru practice what he preached?: Heck no. He has one set of
rules for himself, and another for his students. He has allegedly renounced
his cheating ways, and renounced the "party sluts" he gets paid to teach
other men how to seduce while he gets the celebrity-groupie WHORE types with
money that he got from his students and access that he got with their money.

Of course, once the WHORE is done USING the guru, she's going to leave him
high and dry, but that's to be expected. A WHORE can drain any sized
pockets in a man, for he's only RENTING her while he's with her, unless he
marries her, in which case the price rises considerably.

It is SO amusing to watch as the gurus themselves use CUPID and Foxhunting
techniques to get their own women while they push this pathetic player crap
on the masses, who swallow it whole.

The only downside for the guru I guess would be having to see his "soulmate"
called a prostitute in public and not even be able to refute the very
well-researched claim. Small price to pay for getting laid and keeping up
one's reps for his students. Don't worry, I understand.

<snicker>

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Mr Nifty

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Aug 13, 2004, 7:36:42 PM8/13/04
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GORK, the "talking asshole" strikes again.

http://www.ubu.com/sound/zappa.html


Mr Nifty (Agent of S.C.A.M.).


Byte Me

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Aug 13, 2004, 6:43:59 PM8/13/04
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Who has a "High Class Whore"? How do you know that the woman involved is a
whore? Or are you applying your standard that all women are whores? If you
are, then saying he has a "High Class Whore" is nothing more than saying he
has a High Class Woman....

I am having a hard time keeping all this straight. It must be the blonde,
but you see I think that you must choose a set of beliefs and stay with
them. Changing them on a daily basis leads people to think you might be
sick or something. And you don't want that now do you?

If we are all whores, then so what? The word has lost it's sting. If every
woman over the age of 21 is a slut and past the freshness date, then why
should it be considered an insult? I can't help being 23, I'm not a virgin,
and I suppose being a model and a business woman, I might be considered High
Class, so hell you can call me whore and slut and it's totally meaningless.

I'm past the "freshness date" so I'm a whore and a slut according to you.
Or maybe you have defamed me and I should sue you in Federal Court.
Hmmmm.....better keep your miles up baybe.....
BM
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Ray Gordon

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Aug 13, 2004, 7:00:00 PM8/13/04
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> Who has a "High Class Whore"?

A well-known seduction guru.

>How do you know that the woman involved is a
> whore?

Access to money and power flushes these "good girls" out. They aren't party
sluts, they are sluts for the wealthy, powerful and connected.


>Or are you applying your standard that all women are whores?

You being a cheap whore doesn't mean all other women are.

>If you
> are, then saying he has a "High Class Whore" is nothing more than saying
he
> has a High Class Woman....

Why would a high-class woman want a man who fucks other women and teaches
his students to do the same?

Is cheating something you liked when your guy did it to you?


Byte Me

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Aug 13, 2004, 7:06:15 PM8/13/04
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I'll pass this along and see if you have given me grounds for a Lawsuit. I
believe you calling me a cheap whore might qualify. We shall see...

Who is the well known "seduction guru"? How are the rest of us supposed to
know who you are talking about? Or is this another of your probes just to
start a discussion and give you a chance to bully people?

BM
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Ray Gordon

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Aug 13, 2004, 7:08:59 PM8/13/04
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> I'll pass this along and see if you have given me grounds for a Lawsuit.
I
> believe you calling me a cheap whore might qualify. We shall see...

Ooh I'm shaking.

Don't confuse a lawyer wanting to fuck you with you being able to do
something about being called what you most likely are.


> Who is the well known "seduction guru"? How are the rest of us supposed
to
> know who you are talking about?

Doesn't matter who it is, it's just very revealing.

It's obvious you know I'm right about looks bias and can't stand that you
lack the courage to speak these truths.

Too fucking bad for you.

Krus T. Olfard

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Aug 13, 2004, 7:14:13 PM8/13/04
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"Ray Gordon" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote in
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Ah, here it is - another post where he makes statements about an unnamed
individual, statements for which he provides absolutely no verifiable
evidence.
It is because of posts like this that I place absolutely no faith in
anything that you write or have written.
Sad, truly sad.


Ray Gordon

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Aug 13, 2004, 7:35:49 PM8/13/04
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> It is because [he is a paid shill] that I place absolutely no faith in

> anything that you write or have written.
> Sad, truly sad.
>

Shills today have to appear "neutral then converted" to get any legitimacy.
That's the playbook he's following.

Krus T. Olfard

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Aug 13, 2004, 7:37:49 PM8/13/04
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"Ray Gordon" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote in news:fSbTc.1099$si.813@trndny06:

>> I'll pass this along and see if you have given me grounds for a Lawsuit.
> I
>> believe you calling me a cheap whore might qualify. We shall see...
>
> Ooh I'm shaking.
>
> Don't confuse a lawyer wanting to fuck you with you being able to do
> something about being called what you most likely are.
>
>
>> Who is the well known "seduction guru"? How are the rest of us supposed
> to
>> know who you are talking about?
>
> Doesn't matter who it is, it's just very revealing.

Actually it matters very much who it is, which of course is why you don't
state who it is.
Why is that? Is it that you are afraid to say who it is?

One more time with feeling, baby...

HC

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Aug 13, 2004, 7:38:50 PM8/13/04
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What playbook is GORK following, "how to be the biggest loser in the history of
the world?"

Good job, retardo!

HeeroYuy

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Aug 13, 2004, 8:13:35 PM8/13/04
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"Ray Gordon" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote in message
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It beats playing a broken record...

Byte Me

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Aug 13, 2004, 8:47:59 PM8/13/04
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Everyone wants to fuck me.....but since he was a family lawyer for almost my
whole life, I do think he can handle you. So far, I have not seen anyone he
can't handle. But who knows, maybe your legal education is superior to that
at Harvard. But I don't think so looser.

You are right about looks bias, I get far better treatment than someone that
looks like, well....YOU.
BM

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Ray Gordon

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Aug 13, 2004, 9:28:46 PM8/13/04
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> Everyone wants to fuck me.....

Spoken like a proud slut with an inflated opinion of herself.

>but since he was a family lawyer for almost my
> whole life, I do think he can handle you.

Family lawyers have templates for their entire practice. They generally do
divorce, bankruptcy and criminal law.

If he's such a great lawyer, give his name. He wouldn't be shy about
signing his name to any professional opinions.

Byte Me

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Aug 13, 2004, 10:27:15 PM8/13/04
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>
> Spoken like a proud slut with an inflated opinion of herself.

Look who is talking.....


>
> >but since he was a family lawyer for almost my
> > whole life, I do think he can handle you.
>
> Family lawyers have templates for their entire practice. They generally
do
> divorce, bankruptcy and criminal law.

I really don't know what all his practice is concerned with. I know he does
a lot of business law, and handles the more complex deals we work on. I
have no idea how many attornies are in the firm, but he is a senior partner,
and they take up three floors in a high rise.

>
> If he's such a great lawyer, give his name. He wouldn't be shy about
> signing his name to any professional opinions.
>

Sue me and you will find out his name real quick. Giving you his name won't
help though, they are way too expensive for you, and I doubt he would take
your call. I think the cleaning ladies make more than you do....LOL

BM

>
>


The Voice of Reason

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Aug 13, 2004, 10:45:01 PM8/13/04
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"Ray Gordon" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote in message news:<QJbTc.247$de4.62@trndny07>...

> > Who has a "High Class Whore"?
>
> A well-known seduction guru.

So not you then.

> Access to money and power flushes these "good girls" out. They aren't party
> sluts, they are sluts for the wealthy, powerful and connected.

What would you know about the classifications of sluts? It's not like
any woman in the world will ever give you a second look.

> >If you
> > are, then saying he has a "High Class Whore" is nothing more than saying
> he
> > has a High Class Woman....
>
> Why would a high-class woman want a man who fucks other women and teaches
> his students to do the same?

Perhaps because unlike Gordon Parker, he's actually successful and
desirable?

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Ray Gordon

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Aug 14, 2004, 5:25:02 AM8/14/04
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> >
> > Family lawyers have templates for their entire practice. They generally
> do
> > divorce, bankruptcy and criminal law.
>
> I really don't know what all his practice is concerned with. I know he
does
> a lot of business law, and handles the more complex deals we work on. I
> have no idea how many attornies are in the firm, but he is a senior
partner,
> and they take up three floors in a high rise.

Big law firms are generally among the worst sexual harassers in the country.
Of course, many women don't mind fucking those guys if it's for a good job
or money.

I go online as a female secretary and actually catch these guys in the act
just to make sure that sluts like yourself don't misrepresent them as men of
character. I even get them to e-mail me lots of details about how they
operate.

Alex

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Aug 14, 2004, 5:23:38 AM8/14/04
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in article OTkTc.998$_w.143@trndny04, Ray Gordon at r...@cybersheet.com wrote
on 8/14/04 5:25 AM:

What Gordon fails to mention is that these "investigations" go nowhere (it
is highly unlikely that Gordon has EVER sent any of the transcripts or
emails to any authorities whatsoever) and have previously led to Gordon
wanting to kill himself.

It seems the only person confusing Gordon with an investigative journalist
(or a whistleblower) is Gordon.

HC

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Aug 14, 2004, 8:21:14 AM8/14/04
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>I go online as a female secretary

cross dressing idiot.

HC

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Aug 14, 2004, 8:20:30 AM8/14/04
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>Big law firms are generally among the worst sexual harassers in the country.

And big RETARDED IDIOTS are generally among the worst frivilous litigants in
the country.

You lose, psycho. Maybe you should stick to chess, because as a LAWYER, you
have been de-balled, stupid.

aardvark9084

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Aug 14, 2004, 8:52:15 AM8/14/04
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"Ray Gordon" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote in message
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> > >

> I go online as a female secretary and actually catch these guys in the act
> just to make sure that sluts like yourself don't misrepresent them as men
of
> character. I even get them to e-mail me lots of details about how they
> operate.

when you "go online as a female" do you shave your legs and put on lipstick,
panties, and a bra too?

hahahahahaha


aardvark


"i like to put on makeup, suspenders and a bra, i wish i was a girlie, just
like my dear papa"
monty python- "lumberjack song"


Byte Me

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Aug 14, 2004, 8:52:46 AM8/14/04
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"Ray Gordon" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote in message
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As a client, I'm not concerned about sexual harrassment of the clerical
staff. I'm interested in the results of the case.

You go online as a female secretary? Why would you do that? If you go
online as something other than what you are, why then should anyone put any
creedance in what you say? Is this all a masquarade? I know you used Ray
Gordon, when your name is something else, but to go online as a female?
Interesting.....lol

I think that actually makes my skin crawl.

BM
>
>


Ray Gordon

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Aug 14, 2004, 10:59:43 AM8/14/04
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> > I go online as a female secretary and actually catch these guys in the
act
> > just to make sure that sluts like yourself don't misrepresent them as
men
> of
> > character. I even get them to e-mail me lots of details about how they
> > operate.
> >
> As a client, I'm not concerned about sexual harrassment of the clerical
> staff. I'm interested in the results of the case.

Some people care about how employers treat their workers.


> You go online as a female secretary? Why would you do that?

To prove discrimination and to refute those who claim that it's not out
there. Much more convincing when one can get actual evidence. Also, it's a
great way to get the "smoking gun" evidence that makes a Title VII case much
easier to win.

Why wouldn't I investigate such a horrible wrong?


>If you go
> online as something other than what you are, why then should anyone put
any
> creedance in what you say?

You own a business but can't spell CREDENCE?

>Is this all a masquarade? I know you used Ray
> Gordon, when your name is something else, but to go online as a female?
> Interesting.....lol
>
> I think that actually makes my skin crawl.

That I'd uncover the way women give full approval to men who behave like
this, which I also prove?

I'd imagine any office whore would not like that.

Too fucking bad.

HC

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Aug 14, 2004, 11:02:02 AM8/14/04
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>Some people care about how employers treat their workers.

Mind your own business you unraveled lunatic.

And when you're done with that . . .

>

>

>

>

. . . you guessed it, shut up, STUPID!

HC

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Aug 14, 2004, 11:03:21 AM8/14/04
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>> You go online as a female secretary? Why would you do that?

>To prove discrimination and to refute those who claim that it's not out
>there.

If you're online as a WOMAN how the hell do you know that the employee/employer
you're talking to is anything CLOSE to what they claim to be?

Maybe they're just FUCKING WITH YOU??

M O R O N ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

Alex

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Aug 14, 2004, 11:11:08 AM8/14/04
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in article zNpTc.11448$ZY3.7881@trndny08, Ray Gordon at r...@cybersheet.com
wrote on 8/14/04 10:59 AM:

>> You go online as a female secretary? Why would you do that?
>
> To prove discrimination and to refute those who claim that it's not out
> there. Much more convincing when one can get actual evidence. Also, it's a
> great way to get the "smoking gun" evidence that makes a Title VII case much
> easier to win.
>
> Why wouldn't I investigate such a horrible wrong?


There is no evidence that Gordon does anything other than get his rocks off
as a woman online.

There have been no Title VII cases filed using his "evidence," nor has he
proven anything other than his desire to kill himself after going online as
a woman.

Gordon should seek the medical help he seems to so desperately need.

Byte Me

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Aug 14, 2004, 12:55:25 PM8/14/04
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> Some people care about how employers treat their workers.
>
I'm only interested in how my people treat employees, I leave others to
their own devices.

>
> > You go online as a female secretary? Why would you do that?
>
> To prove discrimination and to refute those who claim that it's not out
> there. Much more convincing when one can get actual evidence. Also, it's
a
> great way to get the "smoking gun" evidence that makes a Title VII case
much
> easier to win.
>
> Why wouldn't I investigate such a horrible wrong?

Do you really think that you alone can change the way business is done in
every country in the civilized world? I doubt it.


>
>
> >If you go
> > online as something other than what you are, why then should anyone put
> any
> > creedance in what you say?
>
> You own a business but can't spell CREDENCE?
>

I'm on a laptop, I hate this keyboard. But I'm away from my normal
computer, so I have to put up with it. Fortunately, there is no english
teacher here to count off for spelling. You don't make typos?

> >Is this all a masquarade? I know you used Ray
> > Gordon, when your name is something else, but to go online as a female?
> > Interesting.....lol
> >
> > I think that actually makes my skin crawl.
>
> That I'd uncover the way women give full approval to men who behave like
> this, which I also prove?
>

What you have proven is that nobody on the internet is safe from your
masquarades. Nothing more.

> I'd imagine any office whore would not like that.

When you worked in an office, were you not an office whore?
>
> Too fucking bad.

And it's not polite to use profanity in the presence of a lady.
>
BM
>
>


Krus T. Olfard

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Aug 14, 2004, 1:21:43 PM8/14/04
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thehc...@aol.com (HC) wrote in
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Perhape s/he's talking to 'investigators' who are online trying to prove
that secretaries try to get their bosses into compromising situations so
that they can blackmail them for promotions?
Just picture it - 2 'investigators' typing to each other, each convinced
that they've now found the 'smoking gun' that will prove their preconceived
ideas. Hilarious!

Ray Gordon

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Aug 14, 2004, 1:32:35 PM8/14/04
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> > >If you go
> > > online as something other than what you are, why then should anyone
put
> > any
> > > creedance in what you say?
> >
> > You own a business but can't spell CREDENCE?
> >
> I'm on a laptop, I hate this keyboard. But I'm away from my normal
> computer, so I have to put up with it. Fortunately, there is no english
> teacher here to count off for spelling. You don't make typos?

Following is a link for Google search results for "creedance" and this
newsgroup:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=creedance+group:alt.seduction.fast&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&filter=0

There is only *one* other poster who has EVER spelled that word that way in
this group.

I M Constantine

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Aug 14, 2004, 1:35:17 PM8/14/04
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>From: Alex

<snip>

>It seems the only person confusing Gordon with an investigative journalist (or
a whistleblower) is Gordon.<<

Ray an investigative journalist?... Nah.

But my innate sense of fairness leads me to conclude that he probably is, in
fact, a bona fide whistleblower; and while I have no actual proof that Ray
posted the following to provide verifiable proof that he's a true
whistleblower, I'm open to the possibility that he may have...

http://tinyurl.com/6umb3


Ray, care to confirm?

<snicker>


Byte Me

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Aug 14, 2004, 1:49:00 PM8/14/04
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And your point is?
BM

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HC

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Aug 14, 2004, 1:56:57 PM8/14/04
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>From: "Byte Me"

>And your point is?

His point is that because two different people made the same mistake that they
must be the same person.

That's the kind of logic that causes the gumby headed IDIOT to think he's being
defamed and the victim of a vast conspiracy.

Isn't he stupid?

Byte Me

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Aug 14, 2004, 2:01:01 PM8/14/04
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If you have a point, hurry up. I'm going to be on a plane in a couple of
hours going back to Tchino. In which case you won't have to worry about me
for a few days, maybe a few weeks. I'll be back though, like it or not.

BTW, just so you know, I normally live there. The banking and finance
system run so much more smoothly there. So if you want to file any of your
little annoyance suits, good luck getting service on me in Switzerland.

BM


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Byte Me

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Aug 14, 2004, 2:04:54 PM8/14/04
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He is something for sure.
BM

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Byte Me

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Aug 14, 2004, 2:08:02 PM8/14/04
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That is indeed funny. In my entire life, nobody has ever confused me for a
man......perhaps he should get out more.

BM
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JJT

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Aug 14, 2004, 2:38:16 PM8/14/04
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I gotta find the post he made about that 'failure'
of his life. Some jerk 'lawyer' made a fool of him,
and grp-ie wanted to kill himself over it.

Tell us why, grp...

WHY did you want to take your own life
about pretending to be a woman, being lied
to by some other loser over the net..?

Wanna duck another exam..hehehehehehehe?

Ya gotta laugh at him....he begs for it..


JJT

I am frolicsome, I am easy,
Good tempered and free,
And I don't give a single pin my boys
What the world thinks of me.

Ray Gordon

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Aug 14, 2004, 4:06:28 PM8/14/04
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> And your point is?

Why must there be a point?

What was it you were saying about someone teaching shy men to get laid, by
the way? You say you are female and have a lot of praise for an industry
that makes its money by teaching men how to override what would otherwise be
rejection from women (otherwise we wouldn't need the methods, etc.).

Perhaps you could expand on what you mean about teaching shy men to get
laid.

Ray Gordon

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> If you have a point, hurry up. I'm going to be on a plane in a couple of
> hours going back to Tchino. In which case you won't have to worry about
me
> for a few days, maybe a few weeks.

Don't let the cursor hit you on the way out.

The Voice of Reason

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"Ray Gordon" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote in message news:<zNpTc.11448$ZY3.7881@trndny08>...

>
> > As a client, I'm not concerned about sexual harrassment of the clerical
> > staff. I'm interested in the results of the case.
>
> Some people care about how employers treat their workers.

Not you though, you don't care about anyone because you're a worthless
scumbag. The world would be a better place if you dropped over and
died. You're a skidmark on the underpants of humanity.

> > You go online as a female secretary? Why would you do that?

Because he likes to fullfil his fantasies online. Ray Gordon likes to
dream about being a female secretary and being sexually harassed and
bent over the desk and raped by his studly boss. He tried to act it
out in real life but couldn't get a job as a secretary because no-one
wants an ugly psycho male secretary. He photoshops pictures of
himself, putting his face on a female body. It's thought that once
he's made enough money suing people on Usenet he will have a
sex-change operation and get a job as a secretary. Then his dreams
will be fullfilled.

> Why wouldn't I investigate such a horrible wrong?

Why don't you investigate the horrible wrongs you've done? Like
gloating over the world trade centre victims, threatening to kill
children and inject them with diseases, and ruining a newsgroup by
turning it from a useful resource into a non-stop flame war about
yourself? When worthless horrible people do whatever they can to seek
attention, everyone else is the victim.

> >If you go
> > online as something other than what you are, why then should anyone put
> any
> > creedance in what you say?
>
> You own a business but can't spell CREDENCE?

People who aren't professional newsgroup readers often make the odd
spelling mistake. We can't all be as good with outlook express as you
Ray.



> That I'd uncover the way women give full approval to men who behave like
> this, which I also prove?
>
> I'd imagine any office whore would not like that.

It's your fantasy to be an office whore though.

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HC

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Aug 14, 2004, 6:30:57 PM8/14/04
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In which case you won't have to worry about
>me
>> for a few days, maybe a few weeks.

>Don't let the cursor hit you on the way out.
>

Oh this guy is SO clever.

Fucking lame brain.

>

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Byte Me

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Aug 14, 2004, 7:12:03 PM8/14/04
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Ok, I have a few minutes, so I will tell you a few things from the other
side.

First of all, we want to meet people and have fun just as much as you do.
We are not unapproachable, and we don't normally act rude to people that
want to just say hi or try some icebreaker. It does not matter what you
say, as long as you SAY SOMETHING. Walk up, say, "hi my name is Ray, what's
your name?" simple, effective, non threatening and you have given your name
first. 99%of the time, you will get my name, and if I'm interested you have
broken the ice. But even if I'm not, I won't be rude.

Secondly, trying some canned seduction bullshit only works as intended with
the drunk and the stupid. Those of us with a modicum of intelligence will
see it for what it is, and you just got pegged as a player. So the more
natural you are, the better off you are. I would rather have a man be
sincere and nervous, than smooth and used canned seduction bullshit. I see
right through it. Be who you are, and I'll be who I am, and we will
probably have some fun.

Thirdly, we are not all whores, so throwing your money around and trying to
impress may get you somewhere at Joe's Bar and Grill, but in my world you
would be making a big mistake and probably would get frozen immediately, not
just by me, but by everyone in my group. Chances are good that I have more
assets than you do anyway, so remember, the girl you approach can reverse
the situation on you. Don't assume that some blonde you see with another
girl has less than you do, she may have much more.

Don't stand there and look like the Marlboro man and expect to be
successful. Sometimes you will get approached, but mostly you won't. If I
like your looks, I have no problem walking up and saying hi, but then I
don't have a shy bone in my body, and most women would rather be approached
by the man.

Last, and most important. Don't go out and make people think you are
available when you are not. If you have an old love you want to cry over,
get over it. I want your undivided attention, and if you can't do that,
don't bother me. Act like an adult, and let things flow. We are just as
interested as you are. If the chemestry is there, it will flow smoothly and
if it isn't, there is nothing you can do.

The fine art of seduction is NOT making me do that which I don't want to do,
the art of seduction is to allow things to flow, I will be aware of what's
happening and I will let you think it was your idea. Men have a bad habit
of talking their way into something, and then talking their way back out of
it again. Any salesman will tell you, when you have the sale made, SHUT UP.
If you keep talking and bore me, I will go home with BOB (battery operated
boyfriend)

99.9% of the time, if NLP or any other seduction technique is successful,
it's because we wanted it to be. Don't assume you have the highest IQ in
the room, you may not.


BM
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Byte Me

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Oh damn, I'm going to write that one down....oh my eyes are
watering...omg..I wetting my pants.

Oh Ray, you ARE as clever as you keep telling us you are.....(fluttering
eyelashes)
BM

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HC

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>From: "Byte Me"

You my dear, are a GODDESS. Please forgive my earlier indiscretion of speaking
to you in such a crude fashion. I'm serious -- if every guy followed your
advice, there would be SO many more happier couples and less unfulfilled
relationships.

But then again I'm not a player, never have been, so I can say that.

JJT

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>Note how Gordon Parker is the first to bring the issue up, then the first to
>run away from it when pressed to elaborate.

LISTEN, YOU WANKERS JUST DON'T "..GET IT.."

Gordon Roy "...I was jesus.." Parker is a gutless
coward. He KNOWS he can run away from anything
because his posting history (and worthless excuse
for a life) is GROUNDED on fear, lies and threats
to children when the shit hits da fan. I, and so
many others, have explained this for years.

WHY ELSE would grp-ie stand still when someone
(ie: me) calls him a lying child molester ON
the net, via many routes.? Because it's true.

I have been begging this coward now for over 4
years to sue me, I have given him my home street
address, he KNOWS my cell phone #, yet W-H-Y no
lawsuit yet..? He doesn't dare deal with me, Fuz,
or the many others (HI DENISE!) who call his puny
worthless bluff to watch him wet his panties yellow.

..and too often red/brown hues..

Hey, grp-ie...prove me wrong..

I'm near my open sell phone now..

My lawyer can party line..

BRING IT ON, CHILD MOLESTER..

..unless..you are afraid..

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- Proof of Gordon Roy Parker (aka Ray Gordon) wishing death on a child :

>>Path: news.alt.net!anon.lcs.mit.edu!nym.alias.net!mail2news
>>Cc: cave...@nni.com
>>Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 07:58:08 -0400
>>Subject: Ray Takes FULL RESPONSIBLITY For The Michelle Mistake
>>Message-ID: <20000628.075839.-285523.10.The...@juno.com>
>>X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11
>>X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 2-3,6-9,17-18,20-21,29-30,40-41,48-49,61-62,71-72,84-85,94-95,105-106,
>>115-116,126-127,133-134,154-155,164-165,178-179,187-188,196-199,201-202,206-207,212-213,
>>215-216,219-220,222-226,228-231,237-238,241-246,249-250,257-258,264-265,274-275,289-290,293-300
>>X-Juno-Att: 0
>>MIME-Version: 1.0
>>Content-Type: text/plain
>>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>>From: The Seduction Library <the______seductio...@juno.com>
>>Mail-To-News-Contact: postm...@nym.alias.net
>>Organization: mail...@nym.alias.net
>>Newsgroups: alt.romance
>>Lines: 307
>>Xref: news alt.romance:246369

>>WARNING: If Oedipus, Krusty or Tusky respond to this message in any way,
>>I will return to ASF immediately. If they want me off that newsgroup
>>they can stay the hell out of my threads.

>>Read up. I post this not for myself, because I don't care what people
>>think of me. I post this for my METHOD, because it's being destroyed by
>>attacks on its creator.

>>I am going to clear the record on a few things here:

>>1. I DID wish death on Michelle's daughter Cierra. I did so in an
>>attempt to snap her back to reality after she had used others' defamation
>>of me as leverage to get me to want her. Why did I "hurt" her? I DID
>>NOT TALK TO HER. That's correct: my crime with Michelle was not falling
>>back in love with her after she had fallen in love with me for four
>>months, IMing me constantly, E-mailing me constantly, BEGGING me to love
>>her the way I "loved" "Dominique" (these two are in quotes because I
>>neither loved her nor necessarily knew her).

>>2. Wishing death on someone is not a crime. The words were spoken in
>>anger, after MONTHS of provocation

- Proof of Gordon Roy Parker stating women deserve to be raped & murdered :

>>From: r____a__...@juno.com (Outfoxing The Foxes)
>>Subject: Re: Need A Piece Of Advice
>>Date: 1998/11/02
>>Message-ID: <19981102.144604.2648...@juno.com>
>>Organization: mail...@nym.alias.net
>>Mail-To-News-Contact: postm...@nym.alias.net
>>X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,3-5,10-14,23-29,32-45,47-50,55-58,60-61,74-77,
>>79-87,95-97,99-102,105-112,121-122,130-131,138-139,146-147,
>>156-157,160-161,163-164,181-182,196-197,199
>>Newsgroups: alt.romance

>>Look at the way women treat "losers" and you will see
>>why they wind up beaten, murdered, raped, robbed, disrespected, and
>>oppressed. It is because women DESERVE it. The ones who harmed me
>>should thank their lucky stars that I didn't react like a primate and
>>just dump them six feet underground. Unfortunately, premeditated murder
>>would ruin this ethical thing I have going for me, although on a primal
>>level it is quite appealing.


- Gordon Roy Parker (aka Ray Gordon) on 9/11 :

"There was no significant loss of life in those towers. Not
a one."
- Gordon Roy Parker (aka Ray Gordon), September 11, 2001

"This attack happened in my HOMETOWN, a hometown I do not
live in or work in because of illegal behavior. I hope those
who swiped my ability to live there enjoy the message they got from GOD
today.........."
- Gordon Roy Parker (aka Ray Gordon), September 11, 2001

"In that building existed little more than a bunch of companies
which hire "office whores" and the like. I have no sympathy for
employment discriminators, and if someone had to die in this attack, I
couldn't think of a better group of people for the terrorists to pick."
- Gordon Roy Parker (aka Ray Gordon), September 11, 2001

Vince Runza

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> 99.9% of the time, if NLP or any other seduction technique is successful,
> it's because we wanted it to be. Don't assume you have the highest IQ in
> the room, you may not.
> BM

You're right. Women like men and sex. We know that, over at the other
forums. Many of us DO have that "chicks are retarded" mindset, yet still
get laid. They have no idea their assumption is amusing to the chicks who
use them.

Those of us who are older and more secure in our lives and relationships
have no problem being the pea-brain in the relationship. While I'm credited
with being above average in intelligence, I'm not immune from attacks of
idiocy. Thankfully, women can be very forgiving if I make them happy to be
with me. Very, very forgiving.

By the way, do you think you could go for an older man, Byte Me ... I mean,
sexually?!!!

Big smile,
Vince
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Vince Runza

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Aug 14, 2004, 11:21:54 PM8/14/04
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> Don't let the cursor hit you on the way out.

Make SURE the door hits you in the ass on the way out, GORK.
Vince
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8===Ğ


Ray Gordon

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Aug 15, 2004, 8:41:24 AM8/15/04
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> Ok, I have a few minutes, so I will tell you a few things from the other
> side.

Plane get delayed?


> First of all, we want to meet people and have fun just as much as you do.

That's what GUYS usually say to justify female slutty behavior.


> We are not unapproachable, and we don't normally act rude to people that
> want to just say hi or try some icebreaker.

Most super-hotties HAVE TO be rude because that type of politeness would get
them swamped with interest.

So either you're full of shit or just butt-ugly.

>It does not matter what you
> say, as long as you SAY SOMETHING. Walk up, say, "hi my name is Ray,
what's
> your name?" simple, effective, non threatening and you have given your
name
> first.

If hotties ever stop approaching me, I'll consider it. I prefer the no-risk
method though.

>99%of the time, you will get my name, and if I'm interested you have
> broken the ice. But even if I'm not, I won't be rude.

Of course we haven't even established that you're female.


> Secondly, trying some canned seduction bullshit only works as intended
with
> the drunk and the stupid.

ALL seduction gurus teach what you call "canned seduction bullshit."

>Those of us with a modicum of intelligence will
> see it for what it is, and you just got pegged as a player.

If that were true, we wouldn't see women making mistake after mistake in
choosing men. The refutation of your claim is in the results.

>So the more
> natural you are, the better off you are. I would rather have a man be
> sincere and nervous, than smooth and used canned seduction bullshit.

Faking sincerity and nervousness is as canned as any other technique.

>I see
> right through it. Be who you are, and I'll be who I am, and we will
> probably have some fun.

With the typical super-hottie, she'll be having "fun" with about 500 guys
unless she starts rejecting some of them, and there's no really polite way
to reject someone.


> Thirdly, we are not all whores, so throwing your money around and trying
to
> impress may get you somewhere at Joe's Bar and Grill, but in my world you
> would be making a big mistake and probably would get frozen immediately,
not
> just by me, but by everyone in my group.

Unless it's a boss offering a job and delaying the sexual advances, or
someone offering resources under another pretext.

>Chances are good that I have more
> assets than you do anyway,

But no proof. You can be anything you want on USENET. There's no CREEDANCE
to what you say.

>so remember, the girl you approach can reverse
> the situation on you.

If I'm already getting laid, why am I approaching new women again?

>Don't assume that some blonde you see with another
> girl has less than you do, she may have much more.

With the beauty premium in our society, women spend 86 percent of its money.
Whores tend to do very well.

Of course, we don't know if you're even female or just saying what you
*think* they would.


> Don't stand there and look like the Marlboro man and expect to be
> successful. Sometimes you will get approached, but mostly you won't. If
I
> like your looks, I have no problem walking up and saying hi, but then I
> don't have a shy bone in my body, and most women would rather be
approached
> by the man.

Again, you sound like a guy trying to say what he thinks a woman would say.

> Last, and most important. Don't go out and make people think you are
> available when you are not. If you have an old love you want to cry over,
> get over it. I want your undivided attention, and if you can't do that,
> don't bother me. Act like an adult, and let things flow. We are just as
> interested as you are. If the chemestry is there, it will flow smoothly
and
> if it isn't, there is nothing you can do.

And if the woman isn't a 100-percent accurate lie detector, she can be
fooled.


> The fine art of seduction is NOT making me do that which I don't want to
do,

Yet that's what seduction gurus are teaching, because otherwise one would
not need the methods.

Either you're full of shit again or these methods don't work.


> the art of seduction is to allow things to flow, I will be aware of what's
> happening and I will let you think it was your idea. Men have a bad habit
> of talking their way into something, and then talking their way back out
of
> it again. Any salesman will tell you, when you have the sale made, SHUT
UP.

Anyone who doesn't care about "money" won't care if he loses a "sale."


> If you keep talking and bore me, I will go home with BOB (battery operated
> boyfriend)

So men who jerk off are losers while women who do it aren't? Interesting
double-standard.


> 99.9% of the time, if NLP or any other seduction technique is successful,
> it's because we wanted it to be. Don't assume you have the highest IQ in
> the room, you may not.

If women are so smart about choosing men, why are they always complaining
about their boyfriends?

Btw, your threats to incite others to take legal action against me may very
well be leading to legal action against you and a bar association complaint
against any "lawyers" you've been quoting.

Have a nice day!

I M Constantine

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>From: "Vince Runza"

>Make SURE the door hits you in the ass on the way out, GORK.<<

Given Ray's excessive poundage, seems near impossible for the door to miss that
fat ass.


Vince Runza

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> Most super-hotties HAVE TO be rude because that type of politeness would
get
> them swamped with interest.
>
> So either you're full of shit or just butt-ugly.

This is how you tell that GORK has no field experience worth discussing. He
spouts off about what he GUESSES is how really attractive women behave in
general, based only on the rejections HE has gotten. Any sensible woman,
without regards to her looks, would reject a guy seething with malice
towards so many different groups of people. A really attractive one would
do it to him without apology, since she's not stuck for other
opportunities.
Vince
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Krus T. Olfard

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Aug 15, 2004, 3:04:02 PM8/15/04
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"Ray Gordon" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote in
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One more time with feeling, baby...

Ray Gordon

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Aug 15, 2004, 6:46:21 PM8/15/04
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> Mind your own business you unraveled lunatic.

The public interest is everyone's business. Stopping sexual harassment and
discrimination is in the public interest.

Ray Gordon

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Aug 15, 2004, 6:47:17 PM8/15/04
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> >To prove discrimination and to refute those who claim that it's not out
> >there.
>
> If you're online as a WOMAN how the hell do you know that the
employee/employer
> you're talking to is anything CLOSE to what they claim to be?
>
> Maybe they're just FUCKING WITH YOU??

Well when they e-mail incriminating stuff, link to job postings that check
out, send their picture, blab the firm history to me, and further
proposition the chick on the phone who follows up, I can be pretty sure they
aren't.

HC

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Aug 15, 2004, 7:09:24 PM8/15/04
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>The public interest is everyone's business.

So why do you get so bent out of shape when people try to get you the help that
you desparately need, sicko?

HC

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Aug 15, 2004, 7:19:15 PM8/15/04
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>From: "Ray Gordon"

>> >To prove discrimination and to refute those who claim that it's not out
>> >there.
>>
>> If you're online as a WOMAN how the hell do you know that the
>employee/employer
>> you're talking to is anything CLOSE to what they claim to be?
>>
>> Maybe they're just FUCKING WITH YOU??
>


>Well when <snip>

Shut up, stupid.

aardvark9084

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Aug 15, 2004, 7:22:37 PM8/15/04
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"Ray Gordon" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote in message
news:1JRTc.44686$US4.40914@trndny01...

only paying lip service while merely *acting* as though you are doing
something about it is *not* in the "public interest" in any way at all.

you are a liar and a hypocrite about even your self-proclaimed deepest held
beliefs. you are a sham of an excuse for a human being all the way around.

shut up, stupid and stop acting like you care when it is so very obvious
that you simply don't. running your mouth is not a substitute for actually
taking a stand to eliminate sexual harassment and discrimination. nobody
here believes discrimination and sexual harassment to be something to be
ever covered up. you simply (and very transparently too) are using the issue
to slander people who nail your feet to the floor with your own lies, and
you know it.

you have huffed and puffed for years about your spews and views but you have
yet to even provide even the most tiny bit of *any evidence* that you have
*ever* taken a stand against sexual harrassment or discrimination.

bake yourself a pie with these apples and take it to band camp with you, ya
foolish fop and grand scion of stupid. you are becomming the biggest joke on
usenet, chump and it's all your doing.


aardvark


aardvark9084

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"Ray Gordon" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote in message
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i can be equally sure that you are just blowing smoke to suit your grocery
list of defects when you give absolutely no proof of such happening. no
reasonable person is simply going to take the word of such an obvious liar
as yourself with your proven track record for lies, misdirection, and
hypocricy.

bite that apple, stupid.

aardvark

Alex

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Aug 15, 2004, 7:29:48 PM8/15/04
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> "Ray Gordon" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote in
> news:URITc.2875$si.688@trndny06:
>
>>> Ok, I have a few minutes, so I will tell you a few things from the
>>> other side.
>>
>> Plane get delayed?
>>

Gordon really hasn't been keeping up to date with changes in technology.

Alex

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Aug 15, 2004, 7:32:50 PM8/15/04
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in article 1JRTc.44686$US4.40914@trndny01, Ray Gordon at r...@cybersheet.com
wrote on 8/15/04 6:46 PM:

>> Mind your own business you unraveled lunatic.
>
> The public interest is everyone's business. Stopping sexual harassment and
> discrimination is in the public interest.
>
>
>

And suing me has furthered that agenda how?

More disingenuous nonsense.

I'm going to enjoy my vacation. Hope Gordon doesn't mind if I don't give him
any thought at all while I'm gone.

JJT

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>> The public interest is everyone's business.


Which is why I re-post Gord-o's own words:

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