"Edison Carter" <pbtv2REMO...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Theres a shortage of them, can anyone tell me sites on the net that
> sell them? Or who the manufactures are?
> Thanks.
>
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"Edison Carter" <pbtv2REMO...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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^ There are virtually no chemical weapons that are likely to be used that a
^ gas mask would be effective against because most such weapons enter through
^ or attack the skin.
^
^ "Edison Carter" <pbtv2REMO...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
^ news:vul6rtkc21e72pgkv...@4ax.com...
^ > Theres a shortage of them, can anyone tell me sites on the net that
^ > sell them? Or who the manufactures are?
^ > Thanks.
^ >
^
^
I disagree, to a point. Most advanced chem weapons such as Sarin, GA,
GB, etc do use skin entry points, but the nature of the threat does not
account for weapons of that level of advancement unless they are
purchasing said weapons from a more advanced supplier, such as the fmr
USSR, which is highly unlikey.
Most of the weapons they are likely to use, mustards, etc, may cause
welts and painful sores on the skin, but a mask would prevemnt death.
If nerve gas is the concern, then you're better off running into your
'tornado room' in your house (if your tornado room is the basement,
choose the attic instead), stuffing a towel under the door, and
injecting yourself with atropine and 2PAM chloride - but ONLY in the
case of a nerve attack, or the injections might kill you.
On the other hand, you can spend multiple thousands on MOPP gear. ;-)
Shalom!
Glen
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http://majorsurplusnsurvival.com/cgi/webc.cgi/store/st_main.html?catid=6
-or-
http://majorsurplusnsurvival.com
(Click on products, then gas masks.)
Israel's gas masks for public purchase.
http://www.idf.il/english/organization/homefront/index.stm
House Members have gas masks...
http://www.rollcall.com/pages/news/00/2001/09/news0924b.html
Don't know, but I have a wet hanky for sale if your interested ;-)
Actually a gas mask salesperson I spoke with said that if you don't have a
gas mask, then to use a wet terrycloth and breath through that. He said it
was better than nothing. I guess this stuff gets into your skin and eyes
too, so I would wrap up in something to protect the skin as well.
Now plastic garbage bags would not allow your skin to breathe, so anyone
know of a poorman's chemical suit?
Note that if they attack us in this manner, I would assume that they would
target a building with a lot of people in it. The fumes would be
concentrated there. I don't know if they would have enough of this stuff to
say attack an entire city. Anyway, persons under such an attack may just
need to "buy enough time" to get outside. Comments?
^ > Don't know, but I have a wet hanky for sale if your interested ;-)
^ >
^
^ Actually a gas mask salesperson I spoke with said that if you don't have a
^ gas mask, then to use a wet terrycloth and breath through that. He said it
^ was better than nothing. I guess this stuff gets into your skin and eyes
^ too, so I would wrap up in something to protect the skin as well.
^
^ Now plastic garbage bags would not allow your skin to breathe, so anyone
^ know of a poorman's chemical suit?
^
^ Note that if they attack us in this manner, I would assume that they would
^ target a building with a lot of people in it. The fumes would be
^ concentrated there.
Hmm, a genuine chemical attack would neet to take place where a lot of
people congregate out in the open. A building is a poor conduit for a
chemical attack, unless it was secretly released into the ventilation
system...secretly because it takes time to move about, and if it weren't
secret then the people could just evacuate.
No - I'd look for crowded stadiums, especially ones with a dome. Movie
theaters maybe, concert halls, large gatherings outdoors, that sort of
things.
Buildings with lots of walls, rooms, and doors just don't work very well.
Take the Sarin attack in Tokyo for instance. It was brilliant because
Sarin is heavier than air, and the subway is underground and very heavy
in pedestrian traffic.
It could have been worse - Japanese subways are very well ventilated,
and Sarin is a monster. Something on the order of a GB or GX would have
been far far worse because it's resistant to ventilation. (Which, by the
way, would make it a lot harder to release in a buildings ventilator
system).
You just don't apply chem/bio weapons in the same way as a bomb. There
is a threat there too though, and it is found in contact agents, that
are liquid, and attack by touching them. An aerial explosion with a
contact agent over a city could contaminate surfaces over a large area,
and do a great deal of initial damage, plus make that whole area
uninhabitable until a hazmat team could clean it up.
^ I don't know if they would have enough of this stuff to
^ say attack an entire city. Anyway, persons under such an attack may just
^ need to "buy enough time" to get outside. Comments?
^
^
^
Also a web search on chemical protective clothing or equipment should turn
up information on industrial suppliers. (I did this but didn't take the time
on all the sites) A civilian looking for personal protection does not need
the more specialized military stuff just a similar level of protection.
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Mike Testa wrote:
>
> What the hell are you all thinking????? If it comes down to needing a
> gasmask what do you think will be left for you to be here for anyway????
>
Why would it be the end of the world if bin Laden did some small chem
attack?
> > "Edison Carter" <pbtv2REMO...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:vul6rtkc21e72pgkv...@4ax.com...
> > > Theres a shortage of them, can anyone tell me sites on the net that
> > > sell them? Or who the manufactures are?
> > > Thanks.
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what is the point of buying a gas mask ? if its the crop sprayers you are
worried about then gas masks are NOT going to help you the agent will not be
a gas it will be a liquid therefore more than likely a contact agent and not
a gas agent as crop sprayers do not spray a gas ! I could go on and on but
its probably pointless...
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