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bolly

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Mar 21, 2002, 12:33:54 AM3/21/02
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I recently purchased a DSC Power 864 with some hardwired and some wireless
accessories. I have done a lot of electrical and distributed wiring, but not
security systems. I cracked open the installation manual and realized i was
in a little too deep. I am looking for some getting started help.

Here are a couple of the accessories i have:
Escort 5580 Module
900MHz Wireless Module
LCD5500Z Keypads
PIR, Fire, Glassbreak and Door/Window Contacts

Here are a few (first group) of the questions that I need to get answered
prior to doing anything.

1. The 864 supports 64 zones, 8 separate partitions and 32 users. What is
the difference between zones and partitions? And the reference to users??

2. In laymen terms, how exactly do the programmable outputs and zone inputs
work.

3. EOL Resistors: I understand why they are used, but not sure how to
actually "attach" them in the system and how to determine what size is
needed.


Jeff

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Mar 21, 2002, 9:43:24 AM3/21/02
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"bolly" <newsg...@bolly.com> wrote in message
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> I recently purchased a DSC Power 864 with some hardwired and some wireless
> accessories. I have done a lot of electrical and distributed wiring, but
not
> security systems. I cracked open the installation manual and realized i
was
> in a little too deep. I am looking for some getting started help.
>
> Here are a couple of the accessories i have:
> Escort 5580 Module
> 900MHz Wireless Module
> LCD5500Z Keypads
> PIR, Fire, Glassbreak and Door/Window Contacts
>
> Here are a few (first group) of the questions that I need to get answered
> prior to doing anything.
>
> 1. The 864 supports 64 zones, 8 separate partitions and 32 users. What is
> the difference between zones and partitions? And the reference to users??
>
Zones are on a partition. IMHO each device ie: motion detector, glassbreak ,
door contact should be set up on its own zone. This will allow you to set up
attributes for each device seperatly and allow you easier troubleshooting in
you have a problem. You can set up each partition like a seperate alarm
system. For example....you might set up your house on one partition and set
up a detached garage on a different partiton.

> 2. In laymen terms, how exactly do the programmable outputs and zone
inputs
> work.

> Programmable outputs allow you to customize your system to trip relays,
use X-10 home automation devices with the help of your Escort Module, use 2
wire smoke detector and many other things.

> 3. EOL Resistors: I understand why they are used, but not sure how to
> actually "attach" them in the system and how to determine what size is
> needed.
>

> You need to use a resistor on each zone. On DSC 864 you will use 5.6K
resistors that are supplied with the panel. To use them properly you will
install them at the End Of the Line. Usually B-connected or to the white or
yellow wire and then connected to the device at the NC output or on one leg
of the door contact.

BTW....You have a pretty good size alarm panel that is pretty deep even for
alot of installers. Don't be afraid to ask alot of questions. LOL...Hope
this helps.


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J. Stevens

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Mar 21, 2002, 12:46:03 PM3/21/02
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bolly wrote


> Here are a few (first group) of the questions that I need to get answered
> prior to doing anything.
>
> 1. The 864 supports 64 zones, 8 separate partitions and 32 users. What is
> the difference between zones and partitions? And the reference to users??

Zones are groups of sensors. You may put one or more alarm sensors
(door/window contacts, motion detectors, etc.) on any zone. Ideally, just
one sensor per zone, but a couple windows in the same room is ok.

Partitions are groups of zones which you want to arm/disarm separately from
the rest of the system. Ex: a strip mall with 8 stores. You could use one
panel and set up a partition for each store. Or a house with a detached
guest house and garage; you could have the house on partition 1, the garage
on partition 2, and the guest house on partition 3. This would give your
customer the ability to have what seems like three separate alarm systems
using only one panel.

>
> 2. In laymen terms, how exactly do the programmable outputs and zone
inputs
> work.

You choose the zone input type you need for a given sensor; front door is an
01, delay. Motion sensor could be an 05 interior follower (instant unless
the front door trips first) windows and other perimeter doors type 03,
instant. Smoke detectors type 08, 24 hour fire. Just read the descriptions
for the different zone types and pick what you need.
Programmable outputs: well, what do you need? Strobe? Status LED's? PGM
outputs can be programmed to respond to whatever event you want.

>
> 3. EOL Resistors: I understand why they are used, but not sure how to
> actually "attach" them in the system and how to determine what size is
> needed.

For closed circuits, they go in series with and at the sensor. You may use
an additional wire pair to bring them back to the panel if you want. For
open circuit sensors like smokes, they go in parallel with the sensor. Your
panel comes with all the resistors you need. 5.6k for zones. 2.2k for
2-wire smokes only.

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Jack Stevens

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Robert L Bass

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Mar 22, 2002, 12:27:47 AM3/22/02
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Jack's reply is correct. Without disputing what he says, I'd like to add a
suggestion.

I recommend a sensor-per-zone configuration. This is IMO the ideal setup as
it makes the system most flexible and makes trouble shooting a breeze. With
a 64-zone system you have the capability of installing a pretty massive
system without needing to double up sensors on zones.

Regards,
Robert L Bass

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